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« Reply #10830 on: August 26, 2019, 12:20:11 PM »
I still go back to the point I made a long while back. Anders doesn't think ablative heat shielding works, so I suppose he doesn't think sweating cools the human body since it's the same principle in both processes.
Yes, heat shielding melts and then the space craft catches fire and burns up. No way to return from space and land on Earth.
When getting warm and sweaty, I take a shower but ... there are no showers in space. No space craft going anywhere has a shower. NASA and SpaceX have missed it. I wonder why? Don't they get hot?
PS - it is 6 am and I just had a shower ... before breakfast. I feel good.

Wrong as usual. The ablative shielding heats up and melts off the surface of the spacecraft, taking the heat away with it. Just like your sweat heats up and evaporates off your skin, taking the heat away with it.
Well, I have a different opinion about re-entries and ablative shielding at http://heiwaco.com/moontraveld.htm and http://heiwaco.com/moontravelw1.htm#REE. Study it and come back!

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #10831 on: August 26, 2019, 12:39:09 PM »
Reality >>>>> Heiwa
RE can never win this argument.
FE can't be disproved.

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« Reply #10832 on: August 26, 2019, 03:30:06 PM »
I still go back to the point I made a long while back. Anders doesn't think ablative heat shielding works, so I suppose he doesn't think sweating cools the human body since it's the same principle in both processes.
Yes, heat shielding melts and then the space craft catches fire and burns up. No way to return from space and land on Earth.
When getting warm and sweaty, I take a shower but ... there are no showers in space. No space craft going anywhere has a shower. NASA and SpaceX have missed it. I wonder why? Don't they get hot?
PS - it is 6 am and I just had a shower ... before breakfast. I feel good.

Wrong as usual. The ablative shielding heats up and melts off the surface of the spacecraft, taking the heat away with it. Just like your sweat heats up and evaporates off your skin, taking the heat away with it.
Well, I have a different opinion about re-entries and ablative shielding at http://heiwaco.com/moontraveld.htm and http://heiwaco.com/moontravelw1.htm#REE. Study it and come back!

Facts>opinions.

Yeah, this part is a bit ridiculous. We can see proof of concept on something as simple as automotive brakes.
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« Reply #10833 on: August 29, 2019, 06:17:40 AM »
I still go back to the point I made a long while back. Anders doesn't think ablative heat shielding works, so I suppose he doesn't think sweating cools the human body since it's the same principle in both processes.
Yes, heat shielding melts and then the space craft catches fire and burns up. No way to return from space and land on Earth.
When getting warm and sweaty, I take a shower but ... there are no showers in space. No space craft going anywhere has a shower. NASA and SpaceX have missed it. I wonder why? Don't they get hot?
PS - it is 6 am and I just had a shower ... before breakfast. I feel good.

Wrong as usual. The ablative shielding heats up and melts off the surface of the spacecraft, taking the heat away with it. Just like your sweat heats up and evaporates off your skin, taking the heat away with it.
Well, I have a different opinion about re-entries and ablative shielding at http://heiwaco.com/moontraveld.htm and http://heiwaco.com/moontravelw1.htm#REE. Study it and come back!

Facts>opinions.

Yeah, this part is a bit ridiculous. We can see proof of concept on something as simple as automotive brakes.
Yes, braking in 3D space is just to push the pedal in the middle. Or pull/push/swing the steering wheel/handle while braking. And do not forget to release your parachute for a soft touch down.

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« Reply #10834 on: August 29, 2019, 06:31:08 AM »
Yes, braking in 3D space is just to push the pedal in the middle.
Don't you think that friction from the atmosphere would provide any braking force?
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« Reply #10835 on: August 29, 2019, 03:00:12 PM »
Yes, braking in 3D space is just to push the pedal in the middle.
Don't you think that friction from the atmosphere would provide any braking force?
There is no atmosphere in space! Steering/braking in space .is by applying rocket forces and for that fuel is needed. See post #1 (topic). Only fools like NASA believe otherwise since 1958!
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« Reply #10836 on: August 29, 2019, 04:13:28 PM »
Yes, braking in 3D space is just to push the pedal in the middle.
Don't you think that friction from the atmosphere would provide any braking force?
There is no atmosphere in space! Steering/braking in space .is by applying rocket forces and for that fuel is needed. See post #1 (topic). Only fools like NASA believe otherwise since 1958!

You don't need rocket fuel to steer in space.


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« Reply #10837 on: August 29, 2019, 09:17:34 PM »
Yes, braking in 3D space is just to push the pedal in the middle.
Don't you think that friction from the atmosphere would provide any braking force?
There is no atmosphere in space! Steering/braking in space .is by applying rocket forces and for that fuel is needed. See post #1 (topic). Only fools like NASA believe otherwise since 1958!

You don't need rocket fuel to steer in space.
Hm, so how do you get out of LEO to go to the Moon (topic - post #1)?

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« Reply #10838 on: August 29, 2019, 10:58:50 PM »
Yes, braking in 3D space is just to push the pedal in the middle.
Don't you think that friction from the atmosphere would provide any braking force?
There is no atmosphere in space! Steering/braking in space .is by applying rocket forces and for that fuel is needed. See post #1 (topic). Only fools like NASA believe otherwise since 1958!

You don't need rocket fuel to steer in space.
Hm, so how do you get out of LEO to go to the Moon (topic - post #1)?
One way from a LEO of 200 km might be to do a rocket burn with a DeltaV of about 3132.70 km/s to enter a Hohmann elliptical transfer orbit.
Then at the apogee another burn with a DeltaV of 826.68 m/s to enter a circular orbit about 200 km lower than the moon's orbit.
Let your rocket slowly catch the moon and your almost there.

Of course, the moon's orbit is not circular so the sums get a little harder. Go and ask an expert in orbital dynamics.

The Apollo missions didn't quite use that approach but headed for the earth-moon L1 point with a small remaining velocity and then "fell to the moon" - sort of!

Go and lookup the details of exactly what they did on NASA's website ;D!

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« Reply #10839 on: August 30, 2019, 08:36:43 AM »
Yes, braking in 3D space is just to push the pedal in the middle.
Don't you think that friction from the atmosphere would provide any braking force?
There is no atmosphere in space! Steering/braking in space .is by applying rocket forces and for that fuel is needed. See post #1 (topic). Only fools like NASA believe otherwise since 1958!

You don't need rocket fuel to steer in space.
Hm, so how do you get out of LEO to go to the Moon (topic - post #1)?

Steering.

I know you are in a mental health facility, but good grief you are dumber than a rock.
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« Reply #10840 on: August 30, 2019, 01:59:33 PM »
Yes, braking in 3D space is just to push the pedal in the middle.
Don't you think that friction from the atmosphere would provide any braking force?
There is no atmosphere in space! Steering/braking in space .is by applying rocket forces and for that fuel is needed. See post #1 (topic). Only fools like NASA believe otherwise since 1958!

You don't need rocket fuel to steer in space.
Hm, so how do you get out of LEO to go to the Moon (topic - post #1)?
One way from a LEO of 200 km might be to do a rocket burn with a DeltaV of about 3132.70 km/s to enter a Hohmann elliptical transfer orbit.
Then at the apogee another burn with a DeltaV of 826.68 m/s to enter a circular orbit about 200 km lower than the moon's orbit.
Let your rocket slowly catch the moon and your almost there.

Of course, the moon's orbit is not circular so the sums get a little harder. Go and ask an expert in orbital dynamics.

The Apollo missions didn't quite use that approach but headed for the earth-moon L1 point with a small remaining velocity and then "fell to the moon" - sort of!

Go and lookup the details of exactly what they did on NASA's website ;D!
Thanks. It seems you agree fuel is used to steer a spacecraft in no atmosphere/vacuum space. NASA never replies if you try to contact them.

is a funny description why.

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Re: I won Heiwa's €1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #10841 on: August 30, 2019, 06:12:37 PM »
Yes, braking in 3D space is just to push the pedal in the middle.
Don't you think that friction from the atmosphere would provide any braking force?
There is no atmosphere in space! Steering/braking in space .is by applying rocket forces and for that fuel is needed. See post #1 (topic). Only fools like NASA believe otherwise since 1958!
That depends on what you mean by "steering".  Turning on an axis can be done using control moment gyros and no fuel required.  Changing trajectory is a different story.  One would think that an expert on safety in space would be a little more precise with their terms.
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« Reply #10842 on: August 30, 2019, 08:01:23 PM »
Yes, braking in 3D space is just to push the pedal in the middle.
Don't you think that friction from the atmosphere would provide any braking force?
There is no atmosphere in space! Steering/braking in space .is by applying rocket forces and for that fuel is needed. See post #1 (topic). Only fools like NASA believe otherwise since 1958!
That depends on what you mean by "steering".  Turning on an axis can be done using control moment gyros and no fuel required.  Changing trajectory is a different story.  One would think that an expert on safety in space would be a little more precise with their terms.
To steer something is simply to direct the course of it. To  change the course of a spacecraft in vacuum space is not easy, so it has never been done. All man made things in space have just been lobbed into various orbits around Earth and that's it! I explain all at http://heiwaco.com/moontravelb.htm since many years.

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« Reply #10843 on: August 30, 2019, 08:54:38 PM »
To steer something is simply to direct the course of it. To  change the course of a spacecraft in vacuum space is not easy, so it has never been done. All man made things in space have just been lobbed into various orbits around Earth and that's it!
Of course it's been done lots of times.  How do you think Arianespace gets their customers' satellites into their proper, very specific, geostationary orbit slots?
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« Reply #10844 on: August 30, 2019, 09:53:12 PM »
To steer something is simply to direct the course of it. To  change the course of a spacecraft in vacuum space is not easy,
Why do you say it's not easy?

Have you ever heard of Reaction Control System Thrusters?
Have you read this from Arianespace? Development of an Attitude Control and Propellant Settling System for the aA5ME Upper Stage

Whatever are these things used for of not the attitude control of spacecraft?
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arianegroup Orbital Propulsion Center: 200N Bipropellant Thruster For attitude, orbit control and re-entry manoeuvres of heavy man-rated spacecraft.
       
200N Thruster Background


The 200N bipropellant thruster was developed and qualified by Snecma (groupe Safran), for applications such as attitude control, orbital manoeuvring and braking of ESA‘s Automated Transfer Vehicle (ATV).

ArianeGroup acquired the license to manufacture the thruster for ESA programme's and to modify the design in accordance with programme needs. The transfer of both production and product design authority was accomplished at the end of 2009.

The ATV programme has served the International Space Station with the most complex space vehicle ever developed in Europe, having achieved five launches in six years following its 2008 debut. The end of the fifth ATV mission 'George Lemaitre' in February 2015 marked the end of the ATV programme.

Using a  220N thrust level, the thruster has been selected for the reaction control system of the NASA / ESA Orion European Service Module. 24 of these manoeuvring thrusters are used in 6 pods of four.

The engine is designed to be capable of both steady-state and pulse mode operation throughout very broad regimes of inlet conditions whilst exhibiting outstanding thermal and combustion stability even at extreme conditions.

To meet the specific Fault Detection, Isolation and Recovery (FDIR) needs of man rated missions, the thruster is equipped with flight sensors for continuously monitoring e.g. in-flight leak detection, chamber temperature and combustion pressure.

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To  change the course of a spacecraft in vacuum space is not easy, so it has never been done.
So, you claim that just because changing "the course of a spacecraft in vacuum space is not easy, so it has never been done."

I've heard few such idiotic claims in my whole life!
Just because you can't do it does not mean it can't be done! There are billions on earth smarter and more capable than YOU!

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All man made things in space have just been lobbed into various orbits around Earth and that's it! I explain all at http://heiwaco.com/moontravelb.htm since many years.
Rubbish, all of it! I wouldn't look in http://heiwaco.com/moontravelb.htm again if you paid me! My IQ drops 10 points every time I've looked.

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« Reply #10845 on: August 30, 2019, 11:04:23 PM »
To steer something is simply to direct the course of it. To  change the course of a spacecraft in vacuum space is not easy, so it has never been done. All man made things in space have just been lobbed into various orbits around Earth and that's it!
Of course it's been done lots of times.  How do you think Arianespace gets their customers' satellites into their proper, very specific, geostationary orbit slots?
Arianespace just lobs man made satellites into orbits in space around Earth using rockets, because that's all that is possible. I consider it aeronautics as most of the steering is done in Earth's atmosphere. And it is always a one way trip with no return. Astronautics or space travel ΰ la Apollo 11+ is 100% pseudoscience and it is the reason nobody wins my Challenge (topic - post #1).


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« Reply #10846 on: August 30, 2019, 11:34:32 PM »
Arianespace just lobs man made satellites into orbits in space around Earth using rockets, because that's all that is possible. I consider it aeronautics as most of the steering is done in Earth's atmosphere. And it is always a one way trip with no return. Astronautics or space travel ΰ la Apollo 11+ is 100% pseudoscience and it is the reason nobody wins my Challenge (topic - post #1).
Rubbish!
"Steering" in space can use either gimbaled rocket engines or some other method of vectoring the thrust. Here is a small 3-D gimbaled rocket engine.

“Here's a RocketLab USA Rutherford engine next to a size 13 shoe. These things have 5000 lbs of thrust!!”

Or for simply changing the attitude of a rocket prior to a burn Reaction Control System Thrusters are used.
Read this from Ariane! Development of an Attitude Control and Propellant Settling System for the aA5ME Upper Stage

For a supposed expert you seem woefully ignorant of these simple things!

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« Reply #10847 on: August 31, 2019, 01:18:22 AM »
Arianespace just lobs man made satellites into orbits in space around Earth using rockets, because that's all that is possible. I consider it aeronautics as most of the steering is done in Earth's atmosphere. And it is always a one way trip with no return. Astronautics or space travel ΰ la Apollo 11+ is 100% pseudoscience and it is the reason nobody wins my Challenge (topic - post #1).
Rubbish!
"Steering" in space can use either gimbaled rocket engines or some other method of vectoring the thrust. Here is a small 3-D gimbaled rocket engine.

“Here's a RocketLab USA Rutherford engine next to a size 13 shoe. These things have 5000 lbs of thrust!!”

Or for simply changing the attitude of a rocket prior to a burn Reaction Control System Thrusters are used.
Read this from Ariane! Development of an Attitude Control and Propellant Settling System for the aA5ME Upper Stage

For a supposed expert you seem woefully ignorant of these simple things!
As a share holder of Arianespace I am of course happy that its rockets can put satellites into orbits. But all steering of the rockets are done in the atmosphere using aeronautical principles. Steering in vacuum space, astronautics, of spacecrafts is not possible in spite of Dr Buzz Aldrin, MIT PhD 1963, saying the opposite. Actully lying! Buzz is military and cannot say the truth! He has signed a paper to this effect! Imagine MIT giving a PhD to a confirmed, criminal liar!

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« Reply #10848 on: August 31, 2019, 06:14:10 AM »
To steer something is simply to direct the course of it. To  change the course of a spacecraft in vacuum space is not easy, so it has never been done. All man made things in space have just been lobbed into various orbits around Earth and that's it!
Of course it's been done lots of times.  How do you think Arianespace gets their customers' satellites into their proper, very specific, geostationary orbit slots?
Arianespace just lobs man made satellites into orbits in space around Earth using rockets, because that's all that is possible. I consider it aeronautics as most of the steering is done in Earth's atmosphere. And it is always a one way trip with no return. Astronautics or space travel ΰ la Apollo 11+ is 100% pseudoscience and it is the reason nobody wins my Challenge (topic - post #1).
right here we can see Heiwa exposing his ignorance of orbital mechanics. Despite being told before multiple times, he still doesn't know that any object just "lobbed" into space will have an orbit that intersects the Earth. The orbit must be adjusted in space to be stable.

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« Reply #10849 on: August 31, 2019, 06:40:35 AM »
It doesn't need to be rockets to steer.  During the Apollo missions OWD (Overboard Waste Dumps) would affect course (steering), it is specifically notable during Apollo 13 as they had to stop performing them as they were being pushed off course.
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« Reply #10850 on: August 31, 2019, 06:45:20 AM »
. . . it is specifically notable during Apollo 13 as they had to stop performing them as they were being pushed off course.

Oh, that's a bunch of shit.   ;D
RE can never win this argument.
FE can't be disproved.

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« Reply #10851 on: August 31, 2019, 06:48:24 AM »
. . . it is specifically notable during Apollo 13 as they had to stop performing them as they were being pushed off course.

Oh, that's a bunch of shit.   ;D

More like a load of piss.


I heard that there are a lot of small constellations call U-rine that are out there in space.
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« Reply #10852 on: August 31, 2019, 06:56:18 AM »
. . . it is specifically notable during Apollo 13 as they had to stop performing them as they were being pushed off course.

Oh, that's a bunch of shit.   ;D

More like a load of piss.


I heard that there are a lot of small constellations call U-rine that are out there in space.

Well, they would follow the path of the spacecraft and . . .

OMG, wise was right! We're getting pissed on from space!
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« Reply #10853 on: August 31, 2019, 09:08:56 AM »
Yes, braking in 3D space is just to push the pedal in the middle. Or pull/push/swing the steering wheel/handle while braking. And do not forget to release your parachute for a soft touch down.

I was talking about heat dissipation with heat shielding during re-entry. I don't know why you question this? Out of everything you say is a lie, this is the easiest to prove accurate. We see it's principles proven every day from brakes on ground vehicles to air planes and many other types of machines.
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« Reply #10854 on: August 31, 2019, 02:53:05 PM »
Yes, braking in 3D space is just to push the pedal in the middle. Or pull/push/swing the steering wheel/handle while braking. And do not forget to release your parachute for a soft touch down.

I was talking about heat dissipation with heat shielding during re-entry. I don't know why you question this? Out of everything you say is a lie, this is the easiest to prove accurate. We see it's principles proven every day from brakes on ground vehicles to air planes and many other types of machines.
One problem of re-entry after a fake space trip is to find the location where to start braking! You are going at very high speed say >11 000 m/s and if you start 1 second too late you will miss the landing party by 11 000 m.
It is also a question of direction. If direction of landing is vertical and you start at 110 000 m altitude and forget to brake, you will hit ground after 10 seconds.
Space travel is always at high speeds say 30 000 m/s and if you meet an asteroid head on you can turn 180° around it in a few seconds and go 30 000 m/s in the other direction. It is called a gravity assisted kick.  http://heiwaco.com/moontravelc.htm . It was invented by MIT after a Russian spy sold them the secret!

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« Reply #10855 on: August 31, 2019, 03:19:17 PM »
Yes, braking in 3D space is just to push the pedal in the middle. Or pull/push/swing the steering wheel/handle while braking. And do not forget to release your parachute for a soft touch down.

I was talking about heat dissipation with heat shielding during re-entry. I don't know why you question this? Out of everything you say is a lie, this is the easiest to prove accurate. We see it's principles proven every day from brakes on ground vehicles to air planes and many other types of machines.
One problem of re-entry after a fake space trip is to find the location where to start braking! You are going at very high speed say >11 000 m/s and if you start 1 second too late you will miss the landing party by 11 000 m.
It is also a question of direction. If direction of landing is vertical and you start at 110 000 m altitude and forget to brake, you will hit ground after 10 seconds.
Space travel is always at high speeds say 30 000 m/s and if you meet an asteroid head on you can turn 180° around it in a few seconds and go 30 000 m/s in the other direction. It is called a gravity assisted kick.  http://heiwaco.com/moontravelc.htm . It was invented by MIT after a Russian spy sold them the secret!

Your retarted.
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« Reply #10856 on: August 31, 2019, 05:18:32 PM »
Yes, braking in 3D space is just to push the pedal in the middle. Or pull/push/swing the steering wheel/handle while braking. And do not forget to release your parachute for a soft touch down.

I was talking about heat dissipation with heat shielding during re-entry. I don't know why you question this? Out of everything you say is a lie, this is the easiest to prove accurate. We see it's principles proven every day from brakes on ground vehicles to air planes and many other types of machines.
One problem of re-entry after a fake space trip is to find the location where to start braking! You are going at very high speed say >11 000 m/s and if you start 1 second too late you will miss the landing party by 11 000 m.
It is also a question of direction. If direction of landing is vertical and you start at 110 000 m altitude and forget to brake, you will hit ground after 10 seconds.
Space travel is always at high speeds say 30 000 m/s and if you meet an asteroid head on you can turn 180° around it in a few seconds and go 30 000 m/s in the other direction. It is called a gravity assisted kick.  http://heiwaco.com/moontravelc.htm . It was invented by MIT after a Russian spy sold them the secret!

The atmosphere is thinner the higher you go. So just control your angle to keep g forces and heat within manageable levels.

Seems relatively cut and dry
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« Reply #10857 on: August 31, 2019, 05:18:49 PM »
One problem of re-entry after a fake space trip is to find the location where to start braking! You are going at very high speed say >11 000 m/s and if you start 1 second too late you will miss the landing party by 11 000 m.
It is also a question of direction. If direction of landing is vertical and you start at 110 000 m altitude and forget to brake, you will hit ground after 10 seconds.
Space travel is always at high speeds say 30 000 m/s and if you meet an asteroid head on you can turn 180° around it in a few seconds and go 30 000 m/s in the other direction. It is called a gravity assisted kick. It was invented by MIT after a Russian spy sold them the secret!
Does anyone else think that this level of wanton stupidity is getting more than just a little tedious and rather tiresome?
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« Reply #10858 on: August 31, 2019, 05:45:55 PM »
Where is the OP? The one who supposedly ran? Turned tail and buggered off because he knew in his heart of hearts he was wrong.

The fact he (and nobody  else) has won the challenge is proof and validity of Heiwas claims

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« Reply #10859 on: August 31, 2019, 05:51:50 PM »
Where is the OP? The one who supposedly ran? Turned tail and buggered off because he knew in his heart of hearts he was wrong.
Or, maybe he saw the futility of trying to teach Anders pretty much anything about manned space travel.

The fact he (and nobody  else) has won the challenge is proof and validity of Heiwas claims
Or that Anders and his unwinnable "challenge" are both complete frauds.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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