I won Heiwa's 1,000,000 challenge

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« Reply #10590 on: April 20, 2019, 08:30:03 PM »

Thank you for proving you are nothing more than a senile old man.

Hm, Sunday 28 April I am 73 and there is a BBQ at my place the day before with plenty women, etc, around celebrating their young, good looking father, etc.
Which says NOTHING to the contrary of you being a senile old man.



And please do not quote Dr. Buzz Aldrin saying he did a vertical rocket landing on the Moon back in 1969. Everyone knows he is a lying American alcoholic going around schools and TV studios rambling about his past since then. I feel sorry for him as I describe it at http://heiwaco.com/moontravel1.htm#EV8 .
Do you suggest that this research of mine is false?
I said you suck at research and here you prove it. Neil Armstrong did the landing, not Buzz. If you'd had done even a little research then you would know that.  Add to that the 5 subsequent landings, the landings of unmanned probes before and since, the recent automated landings by Spacex witnessed by thousands that you can't research correctly and refuse to watch for yourself and the hundreds of successful flights of the LLTV and LLRV in the 60s and you prove it even more.
Did Neil Armstrong do the vertical landing on the Moon 1969? No, it was Mr Buzz Aldrin at the helm and Neil just watched. http://heiwaco.com/moontravel1.htm#EV8 ! Buzz became a Dr later.
But who cares? None of them, Buzz and Neil, were never on the Moon.
Only twerps believe otherwise.
Wrong again. More LIES from Heiwa. Armstrong did the landing.  Your link claims otherwise but provides no proof. All your link proves is you don't understand the subject as one can tell from the multiple instances of begging the question and argument from incredulity. Likely you were confused by their titles. Armstrong is the Commander and Aldrin the Pilot. But Armstrong still piloted the LM. AGAIN, a little basic research (which you failed to do) would have shown you this. They are both pilots and capable of landing but one is in command and does the actual landing. This was true on all apollo missions and remained true through the shuttle era.

And also wrong on when Buzz got his doctorate. He earned that from MIT in 1963. You prove AGAIN that you suck at basic research.

and again you spew insults. Yet more proof you've got nothing else.
It seems Buzz, born 1930, got a science degree of some sort at MIT 1963 so he could participate at a fake Apollo 11 Moon landing 1969 (and a fake Gemini 12 space flight 1966). Neil was the commander and Buzz was the pilot of Apollo 11 Lunar Module. The Lunar Module had at one moment a velocity of 5560 fps and 694 seconds later it landed vertically at 0 speed. Plenty fuel was used! Throughout the descent; Buzz called out navigation data to Neil; who was busy piloting the Eagle, is one description of it. Maybe Buzz was at the helm, when the Lunar Module lifted off to return home? However, both Gemini 12 and Apollo 11 flights were physically impossible. I explain why at my web site. Buzz is a simple con artist. Like Neil!
It is a fact that Buzz has not collected 1M from me to win the Challenge (topic).

According https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11MIssionReport_1971015566.pdf neither Buzz nor Neil piloted anything! The trip was generally automatic and computer controlled apart from some manual intervention when the computer went bananas. Everything was planned ahead incl. eating and sleeping. Only visits to the toilet were forgotten - the space craft had no such thing!

From the report:

Powered descent. Ignition for powered descent occurred on time at the minimum thrust level, and the engine was automatically advanced to the fixed-throttle point (maximum thrust) after 26 seconds. Visual position checks indicated the spacecraft was 2 or 3 seconds early over a known landmark, but with little cross-range error. A yaw maneuver to a face up position was initiated at an altitude of about 45 900 feet approximately 4 minutes after ignition. The landing radar began receiving altitude data immediately. The altitude difference, as displayed from the radar and the computer, was approximately 2800 feet. At 5 minutes 16 seconds after ignition, the first of a series of computer alarms indicated a computer overload condition. These alarms continued intermittently for more than 4 minutes, and although continuation of the trajectory was permissible, monitoring of the computer information display was occasionally precluded. (See "Computer Alarms during Descent" in section 16.) Attitude-thruster firings were heard during each major attitude maneuver and intermittently at other times. Thrust reduction of the descent propulsion system occurred nearly on time (planned at 6 minutes 24 seconds after ignition) and contributed to the prediction that the landing would probably be down range of the intended point, inasmuch as the computer had not been corrected for the observed down-range error. The transfer to the final-approach-phase program (P64) occurred at the predicted time. After the pitch maneuver and the radar antenna position change, the control system was transferred from the automatic to the attitude hold mode, and control response checked in pitch and roll. Automatic control was restored after the pitch and yaw errors had been reduced to zero. After it became clear that an automatic descent would terminate in a boulder field surrounding a large sharp-rimmed crater, manual control was again assumed, and the range was extended to avoid the unsatisfactory landing area. The rate-of-descent throttle control mode (program P66) was entered in the computer to reduce the altitude rate so as to maintain sufficient height for landing-site surveillance. Both the down-range and the cross-range positions were adjusted to permit final descent in a small, relatively level area bounded by a boulder field to the north and by sizable craters to the east and south . Surface obscuration caused by blowing dust was apparent at 100 feet and became increasingly severe as the altitude decreased. Although visual determination of horizontal velocity, attitude, and altitude rate were degraded, cues for these variables were adequate for landing. Landing conditions are estimated to have been l or 2 ft/sec left, 0 ft/sec forward, and 1 ft/sec down; no evidence of vehicle instability at landing was observed. (end of quote)

I always wonder what computer was used and what all those 100's of people at Houston were doing at their screens following the trip. Any ideas?
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Re: I won Heiwa's 1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #10591 on: April 20, 2019, 08:50:04 PM »
I think it is awesome that Heiwa is able to control so many with so little effort.
RE can never win this argument.
FE can't be disproved.

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Re: I won Heiwa's 1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #10592 on: April 21, 2019, 10:15:15 AM »
I think it is awesome that Heiwa is able to control so many with so little effort.
Hm, effort! It all started with my mother back in summer 1996. I visited her during vacation and helped her with our summer house. Then I wanted to go swimming BUT... my mother suggested I should write something about the M/S Estonia sinking two years earlier. I always do what mother says. I wrote an article and a week later, 16 August 1996, same article was head line news of DAGENS NYHETER, the biggest Swedish daily. My article said that the Swedish government lied about everything of the M/S Estonia sinking two years earlier.
Of course it was not popular. I caught the government with its pants down!
Later I found out about other governments lying and cheating about nuclear bombs 1945, human space travel in the 1960's and Arabs 911 attacking USA 2001. So I started my Challenge! Topic!

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« Reply #10593 on: April 21, 2019, 12:07:35 PM »
I think it is awesome that Heiwa is able to control so many with so little effort.
Hm, effort! It all started with my mother back in summer 1996. I visited her during vacation and helped her with our summer house. Then I wanted to go swimming BUT... my mother suggested I should write something about the M/S Estonia sinking two years earlier. I always do what mother says. I wrote an article and a week later, 16 August 1996, same article was head line news of DAGENS NYHETER, the biggest Swedish daily. My article said that the Swedish government lied about everything of the M/S Estonia sinking two years earlier.
Of course it was not popular. I caught the government with its pants down!
Later I found out about other governments lying and cheating about nuclear bombs 1945, human space travel in the 1960's and Arabs 911 attacking USA 2001. So I started my Challenge! Topic!

Nope, you are just butthurt that the USA rejected your tanker design.
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« Reply #10594 on: April 21, 2019, 06:00:57 PM »
I think it is awesome that Heiwa is able to control so many with so little effort.
Hm, effort! It all started with my mother back in summer 1996. I visited her during vacation and helped her with our summer house. Then I wanted to go swimming BUT... my mother suggested I should write something about the M/S Estonia sinking two years earlier. I always do what mother says. I wrote an article and a week later, 16 August 1996, same article was head line news of DAGENS NYHETER, the biggest Swedish daily. My article said that the Swedish government lied about everything of the M/S Estonia sinking two years earlier.
Of course it was not popular. I caught the government with its pants down!
Later I found out about other governments lying and cheating about nuclear bombs 1945, human space travel in the 1960's and Arabs 911 attacking USA 2001. So I started my Challenge! Topic!

Nope, you are just butthurt that the USA rejected your tanker design.
Thanks for reminding me. The Coulombi Egg oil tanker design - better than double hull according to Intertanko (a trade organization) - was approved by the United Nation's International Maritime Organization (IMO) 1997, of which USA is a member, as an alternative to double hull. So one day at IMO USA approved it, but the next day USA or USCG informed the IMO that tankers using the Coulombi Egg concept could not visit US ports! I describe it at my web site. IMO made a great effort to encourage better, safer and less polluting shipping 1990/7 and then USA prevented it. A US oil company wanted to buy the rights of the design 1996 which I rejected. I wonder if it had something to do with it. Anyway, topic here is safety in space. USA is starting a new armed force to defend its interests in space and Universe and I wonder how they will do it.

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« Reply #10595 on: April 22, 2019, 06:48:33 AM »
No, just provide me with full style of a person that witnessed and filmed a rocket vertical landing and we can discuss.
I don't know what you mean by "full style of a person", but here is a video from someone who filmed the vertical landings of both Falcon Heavy boosters from the first flight last year.  With a few clicks in the right place, you can get contact information for that person and chat with them all you want.

Thanks for suggestion. The voices heard in the video are very excited about everything and ... you don't win the Challenge (topic) in such a way.
And you still don't admit that Falcon booster landings are real.
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« Reply #10596 on: April 22, 2019, 09:46:10 AM »
I think it is awesome that Heiwa is able to control so many with so little effort.
Hm, effort! It all started with my mother back in summer 1996. I visited her during vacation and helped her with our summer house. Then I wanted to go swimming BUT... my mother suggested I should write something about the M/S Estonia sinking two years earlier. I always do what mother says. I wrote an article and a week later, 16 August 1996, same article was head line news of DAGENS NYHETER, the biggest Swedish daily. My article said that the Swedish government lied about everything of the M/S Estonia sinking two years earlier.
Of course it was not popular. I caught the government with its pants down!
Later I found out about other governments lying and cheating about nuclear bombs 1945, human space travel in the 1960's and Arabs 911 attacking USA 2001. So I started my Challenge! Topic!

Nope, you are just butthurt that the USA rejected your tanker design.
Thanks for reminding me. The Coulombi Egg oil tanker design - better than double hull according to Intertanko (a trade organization) - was approved by the United Nation's International Maritime Organization (IMO) 1997, of which USA is a member, as an alternative to double hull. So one day at IMO USA approved it, but the next day USA or USCG informed the IMO that tankers using the Coulombi Egg concept could not visit US ports! I describe it at my web site. IMO made a great effort to encourage better, safer and less polluting shipping 1990/7 and then USA prevented it. A US oil company wanted to buy the rights of the design 1996 which I rejected. I wonder if it had something to do with it. Anyway, topic here is safety in space. USA is starting a new armed force to defend its interests in space and Universe and I wonder how they will do it.

I didn't remind you.  It's called directing the conversation (a form of manipulation) It's very easy to get retards like you to say stupid shit.  Just point at something shiny and there they go.
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« Reply #10597 on: April 22, 2019, 09:53:24 AM »
No, just provide me with full style of a person that witnessed and filmed a rocket vertical landing and we can discuss.
I don't know what you mean by "full style of a person", but here is a video from someone who filmed the vertical landings of both Falcon Heavy boosters from the first flight last year.  With a few clicks in the right place, you can get contact information for that person and chat with them all you want.

Thanks for suggestion. The voices heard in the video are very excited about everything and ... you don't win the Challenge (topic) in such a way.
And you still don't admit that Falcon booster landings are real.
I suggest that the video is fake. I explain why at my website.

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Re: I won Heiwa's 1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #10598 on: April 22, 2019, 10:03:34 AM »
I think it is awesome that Heiwa is able to control so many with so little effort.
Hm, effort! It all started with my mother back in summer 1996. I visited her during vacation and helped her with our summer house. Then I wanted to go swimming BUT... my mother suggested I should write something about the M/S Estonia sinking two years earlier. I always do what mother says. I wrote an article and a week later, 16 August 1996, same article was head line news of DAGENS NYHETER, the biggest Swedish daily. My article said that the Swedish government lied about everything of the M/S Estonia sinking two years earlier.
Of course it was not popular. I caught the government with its pants down!
Later I found out about other governments lying and cheating about nuclear bombs 1945, human space travel in the 1960's and Arabs 911 attacking USA 2001. So I started my Challenge! Topic!

Nope, you are just butthurt that the USA rejected your tanker design.
Thanks for reminding me. The Coulombi Egg oil tanker design - better than double hull according to Intertanko (a trade organization) - was approved by the United Nation's International Maritime Organization (IMO) 1997, of which USA is a member, as an alternative to double hull. So one day at IMO USA approved it, but the next day USA or USCG informed the IMO that tankers using the Coulombi Egg concept could not visit US ports! I describe it at my web site. IMO made a great effort to encourage better, safer and less polluting shipping 1990/7 and then USA prevented it. A US oil company wanted to buy the rights of the design 1996 which I rejected. I wonder if it had something to do with it. Anyway, topic here is safety in space. USA is starting a new armed force to defend its interests in space and Universe and I wonder how they will do it.

I didn't remind you.  It's called directing the conversation (a form of manipulation) It's very easy to get retards like you to say stupid shit.  Just point at something shiny and there they go.
Hm, fact remains that IMO of which USA is a member 1997 approved my tanker design as an alternative to double hull (the US Oil Pollution Act) standard. Everyone agreed my design provided better protection in collisions and groundings than double hull. Otherwise it wouldn't have been approved. However, the next day USA/USCG informed IMO that tankers using my design could not enter US ports as they didn't comply with US (OPA) laws. The matter has been discussed at Washington by Senate/House members (I was called to testify) and the USCG had difficulties to explain its stand. However, it is history. I became famous and USCG made a fool of itself. Topic here is safety in space. How to send humans to the Moon or Mars? Can you get the fuel with you. According my calculations it is not possible and I pay anyone  1M to show I am wrong.

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« Reply #10599 on: April 22, 2019, 11:14:16 AM »
USA is starting a new armed force to defend its interests in space and Universe and I wonder how they will do it.
more shoddy research from Heiwa. The new space force will take the existing satellite monitoring, tracking, and control divisions from the Air Force and Navy and put them under a new branch to compete for their own funding. But thanks for proving even basic research is beyond your abilities.

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« Reply #10600 on: April 22, 2019, 12:15:32 PM »
No, just provide me with full style of a person that witnessed and filmed a rocket vertical landing and we can discuss.
I don't know what you mean by "full style of a person", but here is a video from someone who filmed the vertical landings of both Falcon Heavy boosters from the first flight last year.  With a few clicks in the right place, you can get contact information for that person and chat with them all you want.

Thanks for suggestion. The voices heard in the video are very excited about everything and ... you don't win the Challenge (topic) in such a way.
And you still don't admit that Falcon booster landings are real.
I suggest that the video is fake. I explain why at my website.
I suggest that the video is real.  The explanation at your website is nonsense.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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« Reply #10601 on: April 22, 2019, 08:50:23 PM »
USA is starting a new armed force to defend its interests in space and Universe and I wonder how they will do it.
more shoddy research from Heiwa. The new space force will take the existing satellite monitoring, tracking, and control divisions from the Air Force and Navy and put them under a new branch to compete for their own funding. But thanks for proving even basic research is beyond your abilities.
I base my info about the US Space Force nonsense at:
https://media.defense.gov/2018/Aug/09/2001952764/-1/-1/1/ORGANIZATIONAL-MANAGEMENT-STRUCTURE-DOD-NATIONAL-SECURITY-SPACE-COMPONENTS.PDF and "the United States must maintain peace through strength in space" etc.
Fact remains that NASA is not able to win my 1M Challenge (topic) and cannot calculate the fuel required for a trip to the Moon!

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« Reply #10602 on: April 22, 2019, 08:52:14 PM »
No, just provide me with full style of a person that witnessed and filmed a rocket vertical landing and we can discuss.
I don't know what you mean by "full style of a person", but here is a video from someone who filmed the vertical landings of both Falcon Heavy boosters from the first flight last year.  With a few clicks in the right place, you can get contact information for that person and chat with them all you want.

Thanks for suggestion. The voices heard in the video are very excited about everything and ... you don't win the Challenge (topic) in such a way.
And you still don't admit that Falcon booster landings are real.
I suggest that the video is fake. I explain why at my website.
I suggest that the video is real.  The explanation at your website is nonsense.
OK, so how much fuel was used for the landing? And how did you get it into space?

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« Reply #10603 on: April 22, 2019, 09:26:29 PM »
No, just provide me with full style of a person that witnessed and filmed a rocket vertical landing and we can discuss.
I don't know what you mean by "full style of a person", but here is a video from someone who filmed the vertical landings of both Falcon Heavy boosters from the first flight last year.  With a few clicks in the right place, you can get contact information for that person and chat with them all you want.

Thanks for suggestion. The voices heard in the video are very excited about everything and ... you don't win the Challenge (topic) in such a way.
And you still don't admit that Falcon booster landings are real.
I suggest that the video is fake. I explain why at my website.
I suggest that the video is real.  The explanation at your website is nonsense.
OK, so how much fuel was used for the landing? And how did you get it into space?
I don't know and I don't care.  Those are SpaceX's problems to figure out, and it looks like they did figure them out quite nicely.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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« Reply #10604 on: April 22, 2019, 09:34:09 PM »
Fact remains that NASA is not able to win my 1M Challenge (topic) and cannot calculate the fuel required for a trip to the Moon!
Of course NASA can calculate the fuel required for a trip to the moon because they have a bunch of really smart rocket scientists who do that sort of thing for a living. 

BTW, NASA has an annual budget of around $18 billion or so.  Why would they waste their time on your piddling million euro prize?
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« Reply #10605 on: April 23, 2019, 12:16:20 AM »
Fact remains that NASA is not able to win my 1M Challenge (topic) and cannot calculate the fuel required for a trip to the Moon!
Of course NASA can calculate the fuel required for a trip to the moon because they have a bunch of really smart rocket scientists who do that sort of thing for a living. 

BTW, NASA has an annual budget of around $18 billion or so.  Why would they waste their time on your piddling million euro prize?
No, NASA cannot calculate anything. I have asked them. No reply! Please provide the names of some smart rocket scientists that can calculate the fuel required for a trip to the Moon. I pay them 1M as you know = my Challenge!
You must carry that fuel with you from take off as you cannot fill up under way. Same applies to SpaceX and their rockets doing vertical landings 10 minutes after take off and a short trip in space. The extra fuel used for landing must be aboard at take off and then transported into space, etc, and that requires a lot of extra fuel. You always get too heavy. Easy to show!
And that's why nobody will win my Challenge. Human space trips are impossible.

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« Reply #10606 on: April 23, 2019, 04:46:55 AM »
USA is starting a new armed force to defend its interests in space and Universe and I wonder how they will do it.
more shoddy research from Heiwa. The new space force will take the existing satellite monitoring, tracking, and control divisions from the Air Force and Navy and put them under a new branch to compete for their own funding. But thanks for proving even basic research is beyond your abilities.
I base my info about the US Space Force nonsense at:
https://media.defense.gov/2018/Aug/09/2001952764/-1/-1/1/ORGANIZATIONAL-MANAGEMENT-STRUCTURE-DOD-NATIONAL-SECURITY-SPACE-COMPONENTS.PDF and "the United States must maintain peace through strength in space" etc.
And? controlling satellites is one way to do that. Thanks for admitting you stopped researching after misinterpreting one phrase. More shoddy research from Heiwa.

Fact remains that NASA is not able to win my 1M Challenge (topic) and cannot calculate the fuel required for a trip to the Moon!
Fact remains nobody said anything about your fake "challenge" and nobody cares. That you keep bringing it up makes you look desperate.

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« Reply #10607 on: April 23, 2019, 04:54:33 AM »
Imagine that >430 000 persons have visited this thread and none has collected 1M that I offer to the first person telling me how much fuel is required to fly to the Moon.

Of course, it is not possible for humans to fly anywhere in space. Furthermore, there is absolutely nothing there to see or study. Only complete idiots believe in humans in space.

Look at the twerps up at the International (fake) Space Station orbiting Earth every 90 minutes. What are they doing up there apart from giving stupid interviews while free-floating in front of a green screen?

I just heard that SpaceX blow up it latest Dragon spacecraft to be used for going to the Moon and/or the Space Station. This Lone Skum CEO of SpaceZ is just a clown. I cannot understand that anyone takes him seriously.

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« Reply #10608 on: April 27, 2019, 12:51:35 PM »
At https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=62555.0 over four years ago somebody started this thread about me paying 1M to him explaining how to fly to the Moon. The solution was to use some children's software, etc, etc. The poor person thought he would win the Challenge with it. When I told him nobody could fly anywhere in space he was upset. I wonder what happened to him.
There are however some supporters who suggest that one reason you cannot fly to the Moon is that then you would see that Earth is FLAT! Earth seen from the Moon, must be just one BIG FLAT thing below you. Why not? But how much fuel is needed to reach this point of view above Earth? 
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« Reply #10609 on: April 27, 2019, 10:06:38 PM »
Someone could strap you into the chair in a rocket and have you travel into space and you will still say they can't win your challenge.

It's not that people can't prove you wrong, it's that you refuse to accept anything contrary to your belief.  You exhibit telling signs of those that have suffered a traumatic experience and refuse to accept anything beyond their world of thought.  You live in a bubble of isolation and fantasy.  Thankfully, you are already in a mental institute.
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« Reply #10610 on: April 27, 2019, 10:37:31 PM »
Someone could strap you into the chair in a rocket and have you travel into space and you will still say they can't win your challenge.

It's not that people can't prove you wrong, it's that you refuse to accept anything contrary to your belief.  You exhibit telling signs of those that have suffered a traumatic experience and refuse to accept anything beyond their world of thought.  You live in a bubble of isolation and fantasy.  Thankfully, you are already in a mental institute.

It seems you believe a manned trip to the Moon is possible. The Challenge (topic) is to calculate the fuel required for such a trip and to describe how it is used. I only accept real proven methods and not fantasies. It seems 100's of tons are needed and I also wonder if it is worth the effort. OK, media reports that the Moon is regularly visited by various spacecrafts but I have a feeling it is just Fake News.  Ever heard about it?

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« Reply #10611 on: April 28, 2019, 01:42:33 PM »
It seems you believe a manned trip to the Moon is possible. The Challenge (topic) is to calculate the fuel required for such a trip and to describe how it is used. I only accept real proven methods...
No you don't.  If you did, then you would have accepted the Apollo mission reports.
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« Reply #10612 on: April 29, 2019, 06:43:41 AM »
It seems you believe a manned trip to the Moon is possible. The Challenge (topic) is to calculate the fuel required for such a trip and to describe how it is used. I only accept real proven methods...
No you don't.  If you did, then you would have accepted the Apollo mission reports.
Hm - https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11MIssionReport_1971015566.pdf doesn't explain how much fuel was used and when and how. So Georg M. Low didn't win my Challenge. I explain more at http://heiwaco.com/moontravel1.htm ?

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« Reply #10613 on: April 29, 2019, 01:31:31 PM »
It seems you believe a manned trip to the Moon is possible. The Challenge (topic) is to calculate the fuel required for such a trip and to describe how it is used. I only accept real proven methods...
No you don't.  If you did, then you would have accepted the Apollo mission reports.
Hm - https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11MIssionReport_1971015566.pdf doesn't explain how much fuel was used and when and how. So Georg M. Low didn't win my Challenge. I explain more at http://heiwaco.com/moontravel1.htm ?
Then in that case, why not take a look at the Saturn V report.  Chapter 5 (page 75) and beyond talk about the performance of each stage, including predicted and actual thrust, fuel consumption and so on.
https://ia600307.us.archive.org/32/items/nasa_techdoc_19900066485/19900066485.pdf

There are a number of technical documents relating to the Apollo 11 mission (including pre-flight, in-flight and post-flight reports) that can be found here:
https://history.nasa.gov/afj/ap11fj/a11-documents.html
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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Heiwa

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Re: I won Heiwa's 1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #10614 on: April 29, 2019, 08:49:52 PM »
It seems you believe a manned trip to the Moon is possible. The Challenge (topic) is to calculate the fuel required for such a trip and to describe how it is used. I only accept real proven methods...
No you don't.  If you did, then you would have accepted the Apollo mission reports.
Hm - https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11MIssionReport_1971015566.pdf doesn't explain how much fuel was used and when and how. So Georg M. Low didn't win my Challenge. I explain more at http://heiwaco.com/moontravel1.htm ?
Then in that case, why not take a look at the Saturn V report.  Chapter 5 (page 75) and beyond talk about the performance of each stage, including predicted and actual thrust, fuel consumption and so on.
https://ia600307.us.archive.org/32/items/nasa_techdoc_19900066485/19900066485.pdf

There are a number of technical documents relating to the Apollo 11 mission (including pre-flight, in-flight and post-flight reports) that can be found here:
https://history.nasa.gov/afj/ap11fj/a11-documents.html
Thanks! I know! I review the NASA data at my website and ... you don't reach the Moon that way. So NASA has not collected 1M to win my Challenge (topic).
According NASA all actions (locations/times, etc) of the trip were programmed beforehand and computer controlled so the 'humans' aboard only needed to verify developments incl. fuel consumption. So to win my Challenge just copy/paste the software and how it does a trip to the Moon. Why don't you do it?

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markjo

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Re: I won Heiwa's 1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #10615 on: April 30, 2019, 11:53:35 AM »
So to win my Challenge just copy/paste the software and how it does a trip to the Moon. Why don't you do it?
First of all, I doubt that you would understand or believe that the code anyway.  Secondly, I doubt that you even understand how much software was required to get to the moon.  However, here is an Apollo guidance computer emulator that you're free to check out:
http://www.ibiblio.org/apollo/
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
Quote from: Robosteve
Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
Quote from: bullhorn
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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Heiwa

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Re: I won Heiwa's 1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #10616 on: April 30, 2019, 02:27:05 PM »
So to win my Challenge just copy/paste the software and how it does a trip to the Moon. Why don't you do it?
First of all, I doubt that you would understand or believe that the code anyway.  Secondly, I doubt that you even understand how much software was required to get to the moon.  However, here is an Apollo guidance computer emulator that you're free to check out:
http://www.ibiblio.org/apollo/
Thanks! So how much fuel is required to fly to the Moon? Tell me and I send you 1M!

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Bullwinkle

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Re: I won Heiwa's 1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #10617 on: April 30, 2019, 04:05:40 PM »
So to win my Challenge just copy/paste the software and how it does a trip to the Moon. Why don't you do it?
First of all, I doubt that you would understand or believe that the code anyway.  Secondly, I doubt that you even understand how much software was required to get to the moon.  However, here is an Apollo guidance computer emulator that you're free to check out:
http://www.ibiblio.org/apollo/
Thanks! So how much fuel is required to fly to the Moon? Tell me and I send you 1M!

All of it.
RE can never win this argument.
FE can't be disproved.

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markjo

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Re: I won Heiwa's 1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #10618 on: April 30, 2019, 06:08:05 PM »
So to win my Challenge just copy/paste the software and how it does a trip to the Moon. Why don't you do it?
First of all, I doubt that you would understand or believe that the code anyway.  Secondly, I doubt that you even understand how much software was required to get to the moon.  However, here is an Apollo guidance computer emulator that you're free to check out:
http://www.ibiblio.org/apollo/
Thanks! So how much fuel is required to fly to the Moon? Tell me and I send you 1M!
About 6 million pounds of propellant.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
Quote from: Robosteve
Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
Quote from: bullhorn
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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Heiwa

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Re: I won Heiwa's 1,000,000 challenge
« Reply #10619 on: May 01, 2019, 03:43:32 AM »
So to win my Challenge just copy/paste the software and how it does a trip to the Moon. Why don't you do it?
First of all, I doubt that you would understand or believe that the code anyway.  Secondly, I doubt that you even understand how much software was required to get to the moon.  However, here is an Apollo guidance computer emulator that you're free to check out:
http://www.ibiblio.org/apollo/
Thanks! So how much fuel is required to fly to the Moon? Tell me and I send you 1M!
About 6 million pounds of propellant.
Prove it!