Hey, here's a couple questions for the FE believers. These are all curious questions, not in the intention to start any fights. I'm new to the forums, and I'm just generally interested to see the input of people convinced that the earth is flat, as much as I am convinced that the earth is spherical.
You are only convinced of a speherical Earth because you follow mass opinion on it being that. You know in your own mind that anything can and does get faked in day to day life but your mind won't accept it can be done as regards the Earth.
Here's a question for you.
If scientists all over the Earth found out the Earth was flat and gave their reasons, would you follow that train of thought or would you stick to your spherical Earth?
You see, the reality is; people will follow the people they regard as - experts. Even if those experts decided tomorrow that the Earth was flat; most people would simply unconditionally follow, citing all kinds of excited things that changed the theory.
Now then, let's have an Earth is a globe society.
You come along and say, "how can you people believe Earth is a globe when it's been proved it's flat - science said so and all scientists agree, now."
Hypothetical I know; but it shows how easy it is to accept a theory based on mass indoctrination.
-Why would every government and every space agency all work together and lie to everyone about our earth? what would be the motives? whats the worth?
It depends on what you construe as "space agencies."
C.I.A, F.B.I, M.I.5, INTERPOL, etc, etc, etc are all agencies. They all work together but what are they really?
Are they all separate agencies or are they simply branches from the same tree?
Are NASA the regarded tree top agency and all other agencies just a branch of the same thing given out as a lesser independent agency to us but are really a part of just one tree?
How many people have to lie?
Compartmentalisation means that Peter doesn't know what Paul is doing, even If Peter works in the next office, because protocol says that one is deemed higher than the other, which is the same throughout any industry.
You are given a standing. A class which can always be above someone else but below many others from top to botton. Each person knowing their own specifics on a need to know basis.
Let's put it down to a simple and easy scenario.
You can have 1000 storage containers in an area and each person knows what is in theirs and yet none of the other 999 know what is in it; and so on.
If one person has a nuclear bomb or a time machine and tells a person it's in their lock up, then the person that is told this, can only assume it to be true, or false - but never knowing for sure. 999 people can be of the same thought but none of them never knowing, just accepting.
So what's the end goal? It's about the controlling of minds and wealth of those that are privvy to the actualy truth. It keeps the real elites in total control because only they know the ultimate truth. The rest are merely guessing.
Peter and Paul can sit and question what their purpose is. They can even think there's some conspiracy. Will they speak out if they believe this?
Would you?
Who feeds you? who is in charge of your employment status? what employment could you achieve if you decide to question stuff? would you even get to the stage of questioning, physically?
What is best for you and your family?
The answer is simple. Follow protocol and live a reasonably happy life with regular income and a standing in the community.
-What about the space station? the pictures taken from there, illustrating an obvious spherical earth
Yeah what about it? The technology of today and all we get shown are the same things over and over. The same Earth crap but never anything away from Earth other than renders and cartoon images.
We never get shown normal pictures. It's all stitched together crap or supposed timelapse. Why?
I've heard stories that it would be simply too boring to bother to do this. What a pathetic excuse.
The reason why we get to see what we see is because it's easier to pass off the bullshit.
-Are all of you trying to put out there that everyone with that knowledge has made it there life goal to hide, and lie about this "truth" you're all convinced of?
Most people are just doing their jobs. It depends on what you term as lies.
A for instance. What's to say that the astronauts are trained up in their knowledge that they are going to space.
They get told later than it's too expensive to go to space so they will have to act it out. Do the training as if they are going to space.
They are offered large bucks and the chance of fame.
How many will gain a conscience and spill the beans?
Why are actors in films paid whopping salaries? Basically they are selling us a fantasy. They are paid to lie to us in the weakest meaning of that effect but it's still a lie.
Maybe the actornauts feel they are doing the same thing and they believe they aren't doing any harm because they think space and such is the real deal, it's just too risky to send humans into it, so they act it out.
This way they still have no idea what's what but don't care because they have a nice home - money and are revered by many. They become celebrities - adored by wide eyed wannabe space farers.
Gain a conscience and tell the world the truth. What happens? will you attain your celebrity status or will you be certified insane?
Space dementia. Maybe charged with selling secrets to rogue nations. It's all too easy, right?
Does this seem too extreme?
Think about it.
-Are you all expecting an Edward Snowden of the NASA to come out and tell us that the earth is actually flat?
Nope, I'm not expecting anyone to come out and say anything. It will always happen though. Whoever does, will be certified insane or whatever. Your Edawrd Snowdon's are just cogs in the machine, made to keep it oiled, or to put it simply, to keep the sheep confused. People playing characters. It's all acting.
Is it possible?
It's down to you to decide, not other's to prompt you, really. Your mind is your own and only you can change it or stick to what you believe is your truth.
-If the circumference of Antarctica is said to be 11 000 miles, would this mean that walking around the earth would be a distance of 11,000 miles? Different than in your FAQ, where it's stated that in the FE theory, the circumference of the earth is 78 000 miles? If I constantly make right turns with Antarctica being to my right, how could that be explained?
It depends on what you think Antarctica is. If you think it's a mass on the south side of a ball then it's what you believe it to be.
If you think it does not exist as a single mass blob kind of thing, then where is it?
There's a few things.
Antarctica is merely a ring around the centre but half of it is classed as the north pole and the other half the south on a flat Earth.
Or:
It's an outer rim of the Earth that stretches the full circle.
Or:
It's part of a bi-polar disc, north and south on each side as masses.
There's many theories and even you can't guess the truth of it no more than anyone else can, except for accepting what you are told.
It's really impossible to prove things. It's impossible to prove the existence of my keyboard or my mouse. We're currently debating about the shape of the earth. If we haven't been able to prove something as basic as that yet, what's the point of debating? there's obviously never going to be a day where one of us can prove our theories.
The point of debating is to gain something from each debate. It's an exercise is thought processes. Most debates can appear to be going nowhere to many people - especially those that stick rigidly to a model.
The whole point though - is - if people can allow themselves to think right outside the box, they just may take something - however small - out of each debate. Let's call this one small piece of a complicated jigsaw that you place in certain piles on the table to enable you to see if they could fit, in time.
The simple fact is, you are your own person with your own mind. Your mind can be manipulated like any other. The weaker minds will accept mass opinion. The stronger minds will question it.
The ultra strong will refuse to be intimidated by mass opinion until they can logically accept it to be the correct opinion or at least one that potentially fits better.
To finish off, I'll simply say that the global Earth model only appears to fit because it is saturated with magical explanations to make it fit. It does not fit rational logic and common sense for those prepared to actually open their eyes - but it does fit if people accept that magical forces are logical.
That choice is up to each individual to dissect.
Me: I know in my mind - in infinite % that we are not walking about on a solid spinning crust of a ball in space. Nobody will ever make me accept this unless they plug my head into the national grid and dim the country of power.
I am open to any other theories no matter how they appear as long as they do not require magic to make them work, because life is simple and so is the workings of Earth.
If people can disregard the space fanatasies and see things for the simplicity they are, all powered by this very cell we are trapped in, then a more semblance of reality can kick in.
That's just my thoughts though and I'm not TELLING anyone to follow them. All I say is, search your own mind and remember that life is more basic than you think. It is made complicated by those that dare not tell us the truth, because to tell us the truth would be to set us free and it's simply not going to happen.
The only thing anyone can do is to free their own mind and see things for the reality they are in, not the fantasy that was programmed into it.
I'm not interested in arguing this, just read it or don't. If you read it, then use this to free up your own basic mind and allow your mind to be open to reality, then leave the fantasies for your knowing mind when you're sat there eating pizza and popcorn in front of the TV in the sole knowledge that what you are viewing is clearly well acted lies for entertainment.
Sorry, this entire thing just seems a little bit pointless to me.
Life is pointless if you decide to look at it in the way it's meant to be. Born to die. Born to create another organism that will create; all for the purpose of dying.
However, you can also believe a higher being has placed you here and you are merely a shell for your soul which will go onto higher plains.
You can also believe a future pill will give you eternal life.
You can look at life in any way you choose to look at it and each way is a confort or discomfort to those who choose a path to follow.
It's like debating the Earth, which is what you are suggesting. It's pointless to you because you know in your mind that everything told to you, is true.
I know it's a lot of lies - but in order for people like you to accept my thoughts, I have to somehow prove they are lies and yet you believe you can cite scripture and movies, as your physical proof.
You have the loaded dice. You have the ace up your sleeve.
You have the teleprompter.
You have the backing of all those people who have what you have.
Your movie script is a box office hit because it's advertised with plaudits galore.
How can anyone compete with that?
The only way anyone can compete is to change the loaded dice for real dice.
To take away your teleprompter and restart the arguments, ad-lib.
To put you in a room with no external backing to aid you.
To take away the advertising and the plaudits for your movie and pit that movie against another equally compelling movie with a totally unbiased audience.
Let's start over again and both walk the beach. Let's figure out the Earth from that starting point. Flat or ball?