NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare

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Re: NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare
« Reply #120 on: December 29, 2014, 08:20:12 AM »
There's no such thing as a speed of light.

Well, since 1983 the meter has been defined by international agreement as the distance traveled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1/299,792,458 of a second.  This makes the speed of light exactly 299,792.458 km/s.

So if you don't believe that speed of light exists then you don't believe that distance exists neither.
As I told you before. Light is merely vibration. It is not massless. It is not different from what creates it, except in frequencies of vibrations and forces applied.
You people believe in photons that travel through vacuums. I can't help you on this as your minds are made up, so don't even ask any firther.

Newtons cradle should tell you how everything works, as in vibrations, which is thereality of everything that works, in Earth.#

You speed of light is not a constant. It is reliant on what creates it and what it travels through as to distance travelled.

Even if it was vibration, it would have a speed as well. Vibration speed is not infinite.
Newtons cradle.

Even in newton's cradle motion travels at sound speed.  If you don't believe me, check out one of those slow motion slinky drop videos.
Think abut Newtons cradle and see what is in front of you. You'll never learn anything if you keep buying into bull crap.

Do you know how fast sound travels?  It is imperceptible across the size of newton's cradle.  I refer you again to the slow motion slinky drop videos.
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Re: NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare
« Reply #121 on: December 29, 2014, 08:33:20 AM »
There's no such thing as a speed of light.

Well, since 1983 the meter has been defined by international agreement as the distance traveled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1/299,792,458 of a second.  This makes the speed of light exactly 299,792.458 km/s.

So if you don't believe that speed of light exists then you don't believe that distance exists neither.
As I told you before. Light is merely vibration. It is not massless. It is not different from what creates it, except in frequencies of vibrations and forces applied.
You people believe in photons that travel through vacuums. I can't help you on this as your minds are made up, so don't even ask any firther.

Newtons cradle should tell you how everything works, as in vibrations, which is thereality of everything that works, in Earth.#

You speed of light is not a constant. It is reliant on what creates it and what it travels through as to distance travelled.

Even if it was vibration, it would have a speed as well. Vibration speed is not infinite.
Newtons cradle.

Even in newton's cradle motion travels at sound speed.  If you don't believe me, check out one of those slow motion slinky drop videos.
Think abut Newtons cradle and see what is in front of you. You'll never learn anything if you keep buying into bull crap.

I will trust my eyes over your delusional lies any day.

Seriously Scepti, you claim we regurgitate nonsense that we only hold to because we have been indoctrinated. But then when we show you objective proof, and repeatable experiments for you to preform yourself, you dismiss it without explaining why other than your infamous "have a think" battle cry.

Well, we DO think. We use evidence and logic. You use your imagination.

I know which one better describes reality.
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Re: NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare
« Reply #122 on: December 29, 2014, 08:38:00 AM »
The thing about solar flares is that they are really easy to spot because they just look like a dark spot on the sun.
You keep thinking like this. No wonder your head is crammed full of crap.

  Saying that you can only detect solar flares if they are coming right at you is like saying that you can only know that a gun was fired if the bullet hits you in the face.
Well it would be if my ears couldn't detect the firing of it, then if it didn;t come near me I wouldn't know it was fired.
Same goes with your silly sun in space.

  The charged that come from solar flares and cause electrical damage on Earth travel a lot slower then light, but still at a ridiculous speed, they take a few hours to get to Earth in opposed to the 8 minutes that light takes.
Oh, ok, so you look up at the sun and it's all nice and bright. A few hours later
a flare hits you and you see that flare coming from the sun. How does this work?  ::)
You gave an example of a car driving away from you and how it does not appear to be going back in time, but light travels at about 300,000,000 m/s which is really fast, to give you an idea of how fast that is it can circumnavigate the Earth about 7 times in one second and between me and you the signal delay is barely perceptible.
I agree it's barely perceptible to our senses. I'm aware of this.
Let me try and put this into perspective.
If you have a wire from your planet, 93 million miles away to this so called planet, as you people think and we both synchronise our watches for say, dead on 12. You leave your watch on 12, stopped, then switch on the juice to me. I receive the light 8 minutes later and stop my watch at 12:08.

I got your light 8 minutes after you sent it.
Ok so you get on your space motorbike and come to Earth with your watch and you show that it's still on 12. It can be construed that I recieved the light from back in time.

It sounds plausible, right?
It's a perfect explanation for how stars can take millions of years for their light to reach out eyes and that those stars may not be there anymore.
It sounds plausible if you are a fooled into accepting this explanation.


But what is the truth?
How does light really work?

The easiest way to understand it is to listen to reason. Use your basic mind. Your logic. It's all around you if you are preapred to think.
Everything that works on Earth is just a different variation of how all things work.

When people tell you that a central heating systen is just like a lighting circuit or whatever, it's true.
The speed of that light, (heated radiator) depends on the pipes and radiator and the pressure applied to it.

I could explain this further but I can bear to explain it to people who's heads are full of scientific crap.

  The speed of light is not infinite and this is known because of many experiments.  Radar uses the speed of light to measure the distance of whatever it's detecting my shooting radio waves at it and timing how long they take to come back, and radio waves are a wavelength of light by the way.
Yes it's a wave length, not silly scattered photons through space and such. Oh and it is basically infinite to us because there's always a higher energy and as long as there's a higher energy, there's also a higher frequency of vibration.

So, until we know when that ceases, we can only assume infinite.

Solar flares are not a single instance, they can last days.  That's why you can see the flares happening as they hit.

Light doesn't travel back in time or whatever, it just takes time to transit and by the time it arrives the information it caries is outdated.  Same goes for sound, which I'm pretty sure we can agree travels at a finite speed.  It's even possible to mathematicalyy prove the speed of light, so is math in on the conspiracy too?

Light is a wave, but it's also a particle.  It's almost impossible to visualize how that works, but imagine a rain drop hits the ground and it has a spec of dust in it.  The dust is like the photon and the water is like the wave, and you can't know where the photon is until it hits something.  Electrons are wave-particles too and so are many other particles like neutrinos.

I have probobaly spent more time studying physics then you have spent on this forum and I have never found a single contradiction or logical fallacy in physics or space travel, yet anything man made like a movie has many flaws in it.  Physics could not have been made up by mere men.
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Re: NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare
« Reply #123 on: December 29, 2014, 08:46:52 AM »
There's no such thing as a speed of light.

Well, since 1983 the meter has been defined by international agreement as the distance traveled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1/299,792,458 of a second.  This makes the speed of light exactly 299,792.458 km/s.

So if you don't believe that speed of light exists then you don't believe that distance exists neither.
As I told you before. Light is merely vibration. It is not massless. It is not different from what creates it, except in frequencies of vibrations and forces applied.
You people believe in photons that travel through vacuums. I can't help you on this as your minds are made up, so don't even ask any firther.

Newtons cradle should tell you how everything works, as in vibrations, which is thereality of everything that works, in Earth.#

You speed of light is not a constant. It is reliant on what creates it and what it travels through as to distance travelled.

Even if it was vibration, it would have a speed as well. Vibration speed is not infinite.
Newtons cradle.

Even in newton's cradle motion travels at sound speed.  If you don't believe me, check out one of those slow motion slinky drop videos.
Think abut Newtons cradle and see what is in front of you. You'll never learn anything if you keep buying into bull crap.

Do you know how fast sound travels?  It is imperceptible across the size of newton's cradle.  I refer you again to the slow motion slinky drop videos.
No I don't know how fast sound travels. There's no set speed for it.

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Re: NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare
« Reply #124 on: December 29, 2014, 08:50:52 AM »
Sceptis being difficult.sound has set speeds depending on the medium. As does light.

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Re: NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare
« Reply #125 on: December 29, 2014, 08:58:37 AM »
There's no such thing as a speed of light.

Well, since 1983 the meter has been defined by international agreement as the distance traveled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1/299,792,458 of a second.  This makes the speed of light exactly 299,792.458 km/s.

So if you don't believe that speed of light exists then you don't believe that distance exists neither.
As I told you before. Light is merely vibration. It is not massless. It is not different from what creates it, except in frequencies of vibrations and forces applied.
You people believe in photons that travel through vacuums. I can't help you on this as your minds are made up, so don't even ask any firther.

Newtons cradle should tell you how everything works, as in vibrations, which is thereality of everything that works, in Earth.#

You speed of light is not a constant. It is reliant on what creates it and what it travels through as to distance travelled.

Even if it was vibration, it would have a speed as well. Vibration speed is not infinite.
Newtons cradle.

Even in newton's cradle motion travels at sound speed.  If you don't believe me, check out one of those slow motion slinky drop videos.
Think abut Newtons cradle and see what is in front of you. You'll never learn anything if you keep buying into bull crap.

Do you know how fast sound travels?  It is imperceptible across the size of newton's cradle.  I refer you again to the slow motion slinky drop videos.
No I don't know how fast sound travels. There's no set speed for it.
Then find out and learn.

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Re: NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare
« Reply #126 on: December 29, 2014, 09:00:24 AM »
Solar flares are not a single instance, they can last days.  That's why you can see the flares happening as they hit.
I think that you're confusing the flash of a solar flare with a coronal mass ejection which is often, but not always, associated with a solar flare.
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« Reply #127 on: December 29, 2014, 11:24:47 AM »
There's no such thing as a speed of light.

Well, since 1983 the meter has been defined by international agreement as the distance traveled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1/299,792,458 of a second.  This makes the speed of light exactly 299,792.458 km/s.

So if you don't believe that speed of light exists then you don't believe that distance exists neither.
As I told you before. Light is merely vibration. It is not massless. It is not different from what creates it, except in frequencies of vibrations and forces applied.
You people believe in photons that travel through vacuums. I can't help you on this as your minds are made up, so don't even ask any firther.

Newtons cradle should tell you how everything works, as in vibrations, which is thereality of everything that works, in Earth.#

You speed of light is not a constant. It is reliant on what creates it and what it travels through as to distance travelled.

Even if it was vibration, it would have a speed as well. Vibration speed is not infinite.
Newtons cradle.

Even in newton's cradle motion travels at sound speed.  If you don't believe me, check out one of those slow motion slinky drop videos.
Think abut Newtons cradle and see what is in front of you. You'll never learn anything if you keep buying into bull crap.

Do you know how fast sound travels?  It is imperceptible across the size of newton's cradle.  I refer you again to the slow motion slinky drop videos.
No I don't know how fast sound travels. There's no set speed for it.

Your right, sound can have different speeds in different mediums, and all that sound is is just pressure waves.  The point I was trying to make is that the speed of sound is too fast to perceive in the scale of Newton's cradle.  If you look at Newton's cradle in slow motion, there is a small delay between when the ball hits and when the opposite ball starts moving.
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Re: NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare
« Reply #128 on: December 29, 2014, 01:13:15 PM »
There's no such thing as a speed of light.

Well, since 1983 the meter has been defined by international agreement as the distance traveled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1/299,792,458 of a second.  This makes the speed of light exactly 299,792.458 km/s.

So if you don't believe that speed of light exists then you don't believe that distance exists neither.
As I told you before. Light is merely vibration. It is not massless. It is not different from what creates it, except in frequencies of vibrations and forces applied.
You people believe in photons that travel through vacuums. I can't help you on this as your minds are made up, so don't even ask any firther.

Newtons cradle should tell you how everything works, as in vibrations, which is thereality of everything that works, in Earth.#

You speed of light is not a constant. It is reliant on what creates it and what it travels through as to distance travelled.

Even if it was vibration, it would have a speed as well. Vibration speed is not infinite.
Newtons cradle.

Even in newton's cradle motion travels at sound speed.  If you don't believe me, check out one of those slow motion slinky drop videos.
Think abut Newtons cradle and see what is in front of you. You'll never learn anything if you keep buying into bull crap.

Do you know how fast sound travels?  It is imperceptible across the size of newton's cradle.  I refer you again to the slow motion slinky drop videos.
No I don't know how fast sound travels. There's no set speed for it.

Your right, sound can have different speeds in different mediums, and all that sound is is just pressure waves.  The point I was trying to make is that the speed of sound is too fast to perceive in the scale of Newton's cradle.  If you look at Newton's cradle in slow motion, there is a small delay between when the ball hits and when the opposite ball starts moving.
Yes there is. There is s small delay in any reaction to any action, but if Newtons cradle was a large wave cradle stretching however long, you get the same thing. It's a knock on effect. A transfer of vibration through a wave.


Line those balls up over 10,000 miles and hit the first ball hard enough and that vibration is transferred to the end in super quick time, just like sound and just like light.

Think of it like a long hosepipe stretching 10,000 miles but empty. Now fill it and it will take time to come out the other end. Once it does, then any pressure you apply from the front, will be immediately felt from the opposite end, because all your matter is attached.
That's a total crude way of looking at it.
There are no free moving anything. Everything is attached.

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Re: NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare
« Reply #129 on: December 29, 2014, 02:27:19 PM »
The speed of light slowed enough to make its propagation visible. Clever stuff.
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Re: NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare
« Reply #130 on: December 29, 2014, 04:10:38 PM »
There's no such thing as a speed of light.

Well, since 1983 the meter has been defined by international agreement as the distance traveled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1/299,792,458 of a second.  This makes the speed of light exactly 299,792.458 km/s.

So if you don't believe that speed of light exists then you don't believe that distance exists neither.
As I told you before. Light is merely vibration. It is not massless. It is not different from what creates it, except in frequencies of vibrations and forces applied.
You people believe in photons that travel through vacuums. I can't help you on this as your minds are made up, so don't even ask any firther.

Newtons cradle should tell you how everything works, as in vibrations, which is thereality of everything that works, in Earth.#

You speed of light is not a constant. It is reliant on what creates it and what it travels through as to distance travelled.
And I have told you that spectroscopy show you to be wrong. Part of what I do for a living is working with different spectroscopes. They would not work if light and sound were related. Time and time again you have to ignore spectroscopy. I will ask again, what evidence do you have that you are right and spectroscopy is wrong?

There's no such thing as a speed of light.

Well, since 1983 the meter has been defined by international agreement as the distance traveled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1/299,792,458 of a second.  This makes the speed of light exactly 299,792.458 km/s.

So if you don't believe that speed of light exists then you don't believe that distance exists neither.
As I told you before. Light is merely vibration. It is not massless. It is not different from what creates it, except in frequencies of vibrations and forces applied.
You people believe in photons that travel through vacuums. I can't help you on this as your minds are made up, so don't even ask any firther.

Newtons cradle should tell you how everything works, as in vibrations, which is thereality of everything that works, in Earth.#

You speed of light is not a constant. It is reliant on what creates it and what it travels through as to distance travelled.

Even if it was vibration, it would have a speed as well. Vibration speed is not infinite.
Newtons cradle.

Even in newton's cradle motion travels at sound speed.  If you don't believe me, check out one of those slow motion slinky drop videos.
Think abut Newtons cradle and see what is in front of you. You'll never learn anything if you keep buying into bull crap.

Do you know how fast sound travels?  It is imperceptible across the size of newton's cradle.  I refer you again to the slow motion slinky drop videos.
No I don't know how fast sound travels. There's no set speed for it.

Your right, sound can have different speeds in different mediums, and all that sound is is just pressure waves.  The point I was trying to make is that the speed of sound is too fast to perceive in the scale of Newton's cradle.  If you look at Newton's cradle in slow motion, there is a small delay between when the ball hits and when the opposite ball starts moving.
Yes there is. There is s small delay in any reaction to any action, but if Newtons cradle was a large wave cradle stretching however long, you get the same thing. It's a knock on effect. A transfer of vibration through a wave.


Line those balls up over 10,000 miles and hit the first ball hard enough and that vibration is transferred to the end in super quick time, just like sound and just like light.

Think of it like a long hosepipe stretching 10,000 miles but empty. Now fill it and it will take time to come out the other end. Once it does, then any pressure you apply from the front, will be immediately felt from the opposite end, because all your matter is attached.
That's a total crude way of looking at it.
There are no free moving anything. Everything is attached.
The speed of push is equal to the speed of sound for the object.
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Re: NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare
« Reply #131 on: December 29, 2014, 04:29:25 PM »
I will ask again, what evidence do you have that you are right and spectroscopy is wrong?
Because you've been brainwashed by so-called scientists on the conspiracy payroll, and have been fed steaming piles of gobbledygook poopy and he's done lots of experiments that have not been made public other than he says so, and knows eleventy hundred percent he's correct, and because he's a self-proclaimed genius with 13 "credentials" and access to a 1 mega-watt laser.

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« Reply #132 on: December 29, 2014, 04:57:41 PM »
There's no such thing as a speed of light.

Well, since 1983 the meter has been defined by international agreement as the distance traveled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1/299,792,458 of a second.  This makes the speed of light exactly 299,792.458 km/s.

So if you don't believe that speed of light exists then you don't believe that distance exists neither.
As I told you before. Light is merely vibration. It is not massless. It is not different from what creates it, except in frequencies of vibrations and forces applied.
You people believe in photons that travel through vacuums. I can't help you on this as your minds are made up, so don't even ask any firther.

Newtons cradle should tell you how everything works, as in vibrations, which is thereality of everything that works, in Earth.#

You speed of light is not a constant. It is reliant on what creates it and what it travels through as to distance travelled.

Even if it was vibration, it would have a speed as well. Vibration speed is not infinite.
Newtons cradle.

Even in newton's cradle motion travels at sound speed.  If you don't believe me, check out one of those slow motion slinky drop videos.
Think abut Newtons cradle and see what is in front of you. You'll never learn anything if you keep buying into bull crap.

Do you know how fast sound travels?  It is imperceptible across the size of newton's cradle.  I refer you again to the slow motion slinky drop videos.
No I don't know how fast sound travels. There's no set speed for it.

Your right, sound can have different speeds in different mediums, and all that sound is is just pressure waves.  The point I was trying to make is that the speed of sound is too fast to perceive in the scale of Newton's cradle.  If you look at Newton's cradle in slow motion, there is a small delay between when the ball hits and when the opposite ball starts moving.
Yes there is. There is s small delay in any reaction to any action, but if Newtons cradle was a large wave cradle stretching however long, you get the same thing. It's a knock on effect. A transfer of vibration through a wave.


Line those balls up over 10,000 miles and hit the first ball hard enough and that vibration is transferred to the end in super quick time, just like sound and just like light.

Think of it like a long hosepipe stretching 10,000 miles but empty. Now fill it and it will take time to come out the other end. Once it does, then any pressure you apply from the front, will be immediately felt from the opposite end, because all your matter is attached.
That's a total crude way of looking at it.
There are no free moving anything. Everything is attached.

In your hose example, there actually is a speed of sound delay.  I refer you a third time to the slow motion slinky drops.
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Re: NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare
« Reply #133 on: December 29, 2014, 11:39:27 PM »
I know this is a day early, but I'm thinking it's time to give this award to sceptimatic for causing the most consistent disruption to this forum during 2014, and for posting more ludicrous pseudo-science than any other forum member.....




I'd also like to grant him a "Highly Commended" award for the most
controversial, but totally unproven concept for the year:  "DENPRESSURE"



—Excellent effort sceptimatic.  Take a well-earned bow.    ;D




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Re: NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare
« Reply #134 on: December 30, 2014, 05:31:44 AM »
I know this is a day early, but I'm thinking it's time to give this award to sceptimatic for causing the most consistent disruption to this forum during 2014...
Geoff, I think that an argument could be made that you constant need to insult FE'ers is at least as disruptive as as scepti's pseudo-scientific rants.
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Re: NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare
« Reply #135 on: December 30, 2014, 06:55:29 AM »


In your hose example, there actually is a speed of sound delay.  I refer you a third time to the slow motion slinky drops.
I've just told you there is a delay for everything. It includes your slinky and every other thing, including how light propogates.
It's all waves in all forms and all have to start with an action. An energy. The action and energy applied is what makes the difference in what we see or hear or feel.

In terms of light, it's a super high frequency of vibration.
What you hear is dependent on energy at lower frequencies of vibration which is picked up by your ear drum and hammer.
You feel the effects of both of these, dependent on the energy applied and the proximity it's applied in, to yourself.

There are no scattered particles as such, in the terms you people hang onto but there is scattered light to your vision, which is only to your vision which is only a fan out of light, just like sound fans out.

As for your particles that just take undecided routes in your space, for instance. It's hogwash. It's garbage science. It's simply made up nonsense that caters for the fantasy of space in many respects.

Your life is dependent on waveform no matter where, or what or how, in anything - absolutely anything that moves, however fast or slow to your perception.

Our minds have been warped to hell with a lot of this stuff, because this stuff given out is to fit an agenda. To keep us from actually seeing the real truth.
We are easily fooled because we were born very primitive, with 2 crap eyes and crap ears...but, they work for us in our every day lives and we can aid ourselves by magnifying to a certain degree; distances.

There is no magic involved. It's basic.
It only becomes complicated because people are astounded by the so called complexity of machines of all descriptions and do not have the inclination or the mental capacity to actually see how they work, yet the reality of it all is basic.

To understand it all, you basically have to start from square one. There's no magic. There's no unforseen forces if people can understand the basics.

The best way to understand the basics is to experiment on a nice clear lake or pond, using all kind of objects from stones to model boats, etc.
Once you do this, you can look into why light and sound are exactly the same thing. It's simply down to energy and frequency of vibration, which has to create sound before we can see the light. It's as simple as that.

No special particles and all the rest of the gunk that gets spewed.
Learn this and you will soon realise the extent of the lies you have grown up accepting as truth.

One more thing.
All matter is connected. All matter. There are no seperate particles of matter, anywhere.
Again, look at your lake. What you see in that lake, is what is happening in your atmosphere. You simply are in your own lake, only less dense but it's all connected.

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« Reply #136 on: December 30, 2014, 07:01:24 AM »
Your life is dependent on waveform no matter where, or what or how,

Shit septic that is true. You should try that trick more often. Don't you get sick of bullcraping.

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Re: NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare
« Reply #137 on: December 30, 2014, 07:04:38 AM »
I've just told you there is a delay for everything. It includes your slinky and every other thing, including how light propogates.

So can you now accept that it takes 8 minutes for light emitted by the sun to get to you?
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Re: NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare
« Reply #138 on: December 30, 2014, 07:17:52 AM »
I've just told you there is a delay for everything. It includes your slinky and every other thing, including how light propogates.

So can you now accept that it takes 8 minutes for light emitted by the sun to get to you?
Nope. It's fantasy world stuff.
Didn't you read what I've just put?

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« Reply #139 on: December 30, 2014, 07:23:17 AM »
I've just told you there is a delay for everything. It includes your slinky and every other thing, including how light propogates.
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Re: NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare
« Reply #140 on: December 30, 2014, 07:35:04 AM »
I've just told you there is a delay for everything. It includes your slinky and every other thing, including how light propogates.
Yes and it doesn't include stupidity of 93 million mile balls of fire. Nor does waves propogate through a vacuum.
Now do you get it?

The delays are for Earth and Earth only. Nothing else matters to us because this is what we are dealing with.
Anything seen on this Earth is due to this Earth; not pathetic made up nonsense in a so called space full of rocks and fire.

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Re: NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare
« Reply #141 on: December 30, 2014, 07:44:49 AM »
F+fv+EV/DM*M

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Re: NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare
« Reply #142 on: December 30, 2014, 07:49:32 AM »
I've just told you there is a delay for everything. It includes your slinky and every other thing, including how light propogates.
Yes and it doesn't include stupidity of 93 million mile balls of fire. Nor does waves propogate through a vacuum.
Now do you get it?

The delays are for Earth and Earth only. Nothing else matters to us because this is what we are dealing with.
Anything seen on this Earth is due to this Earth; not pathetic made up nonsense in a so called space full of rocks and fire.

So this is not about the speed of light after all then. Why did it take you several pages arguing about the speed of light before finally coming to this?
I think, therefore I am

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Re: NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare
« Reply #143 on: December 30, 2014, 08:30:27 AM »
I've just told you there is a delay for everything. It includes your slinky and every other thing, including how light propogates.
Yes and it doesn't include stupidity of 93 million mile balls of fire. Nor does waves propogate through a vacuum.
Now do you get it?

The delays are for Earth and Earth only. Nothing else matters to us because this is what we are dealing with.
Anything seen on this Earth is due to this Earth; not pathetic made up nonsense in a so called space full of rocks and fire.

So this is not about the speed of light after all then. Why did it take you several pages arguing about the speed of light before finally coming to this?
There's no such thing as the speed of light, I've already told you that.

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Re: NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare
« Reply #144 on: December 30, 2014, 09:06:48 AM »
I've just told you there is a delay for everything. It includes your slinky and every other thing, including how light propogates.
There's no such thing as the speed of light, I've already told you that.
So does light travel instantaneously from an object to your eyes, or does it take time to travel that distance?

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sceptimatic

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Re: NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare
« Reply #145 on: December 30, 2014, 09:13:16 AM »
I've just told you there is a delay for everything. It includes your slinky and every other thing, including how light propogates.
There's no such thing as the speed of light, I've already told you that.
So does light travel instantaneously from an object to your eyes, or does it take time to travel that distance?
Nothing travels instantaneously. It all depends on the energy applied and the medium it travels through which determines what you see and how quickly.

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Re: NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare
« Reply #146 on: December 30, 2014, 09:33:44 AM »
I've just told you there is a delay for everything. It includes your slinky and every other thing, including how light propogates.
There's no such thing as the speed of light, I've already told you that.
So does light travel instantaneously from an object to your eyes, or does it take time to travel that distance?
Nothing travels instantaneously. It all depends on the energy applied and the medium it travels through which determines what you see and how quickly.
How do you calculate the speed knowing the values?

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sceptimatic

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Re: NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare
« Reply #147 on: December 30, 2014, 09:39:26 AM »
I've just told you there is a delay for everything. It includes your slinky and every other thing, including how light propogates.
There's no such thing as the speed of light, I've already told you that.
So does light travel instantaneously from an object to your eyes, or does it take time to travel that distance?
Nothing travels instantaneously. It all depends on the energy applied and the medium it travels through which determines what you see and how quickly.
How do you calculate the speed knowing the values?
By determining the energy input and feedback from that.

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29silhouette

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Re: NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare
« Reply #148 on: December 30, 2014, 09:50:07 AM »
There's no such thing as the speed of light, I've already told you that.
Nothing travels instantaneously. It all depends on the energy applied and the medium it travels through which determines what you see and how quickly.
So there is such a thing as "the speed of light".  I'm just trying to clarify, because you seemed pretty certain in the other post that there isn't.

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Re: NASA Cameras Capture Solar Flare
« Reply #149 on: December 30, 2014, 09:53:06 AM »
Maybe he believes there is really a speed of light, just not as fast as it is now.