Measure the FE distance to the sun.

Weather permitting, you can also measure the length of the shadow produced by a vertical stick with a known height.

Or the shadows cast on a wall


One day to go!

In my opinion, the Sun is nowhere NEAR 3000 miles up. It's more like 100-200 miles TOPS.

Take a look at this picture taken from a weather balloon at 110,000 Feet (~20 miles):



Look at the angle of the rays and the position of the Sun and you can see it's only about 100-200 miles up.

The Stars, on the other hand, are much higher up near the top of the Firmament.

You have to remember that the Sun doesn't take the same course every day, and has various routes throughout the year. The Book of Enoch explains the Sun's courses more thoroughly:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/boe075.htm

Here is a pretty good video explaining the angles of the Sun's rays on flat earth:
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If I may be pardoned for saying so...But....As just an amateur photographer who has taken a few pictures.That explanation for estimating the distance to the sun from the rays of the is one of the most inane things I have yet heard from any flat earther.

Those "angles" - if you are referring to the rays in the photograph from the sun - are simply what is caused "lens flare". They have no relation to the height of any object and in no way they could be used in computing the height of the sun.

Just do a google search on "lens flare" and you will find similar pictures.

But you will have to excuse the flat earthers. Photography seems to be another subject in which the flat earthers are ignorant as has been seen on countless posts. But you will have to forgive them for their ignorance. Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary for a "Round Earther" to try to explain these things. But they never do believe a "Round Earther" so it's a rather futile exercise.

100 to 200 miles is even worse than 3000 miles IMHO. LOL.

Once again, here are proven facts with a lot of evidence.:
The distance to the moon is approximately 250,000 Miles.
The distance to the sun is approximately 93,000,000 Miles.
Do you have any proof or evidence otherwise, flat earthers ?

And if you took the time to read the page linked in the Book of Enoch above, you may have noticed the last verse which states, "37. As he rises, so he sets and decreases not, and rests not, but runs day and night, and his light is sevenfold brighter than that of the moon; but as regards size they are both equal."

You atheists just can handle the Truth in God's Word. Give it up shills, Jesus Christ is Lord.

From Nasa's website:

Quote

The Moon's size and distance contribute to a wonderful coincidence for those of us who live here on Earth. The Moon is about 400 times smaller than the Sun, but it also just happens to be about 400 times closer. The result is that from Earth, they appear to be the same size.

WRONG NASA idiots, they appear the same size because THEY ARE THE SAME SIZE MORONS. Geez Louise.

Enoch probably just reported things as he saw them. He had no idea of the distances of the sun and the moon from . He just assumed that since they APPEARED  to be of the same size from his vantage point, they WERE the same size. You have to look at these things with a view as to when they were written and what their knowledge was at that time. I don't think God would have tried to explain light years and quantum physics to Enoch. He would leave that to man to use his brains to figure out how He made them.

There was an episode on the old BBC "Britcom", "Father Ted", about the sizes of things..."Near...far away "... LOL. I think this was posted on another thread some time ago.
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Googleotomy, those rays cannot be explained by lens flare but they can be explained by simple perspective and its been discussed at length in a thread on these forums before. Just look at these railroad tracks.



We know these tracks are parallel but because of the perspective, they don't appear to be.

Googleotomy, those rays cannot be explained by lens flare but they can be explained by simple perspective and its been discussed at length in a thread on these forums before. Just look at these railroad tracks.



We know these tracks are parallel but because of the perspective, they don't appear to be.

rottingroom , that is just my own personal analysis that those rays in the photographic look like a simple case of lens flare and have no relation to perspective. It would be interesting to hear if other photographers have opinions. Unlike sceptimatic, I have been wrong on many subjects many times. LOL.

And while I am at it, de-bunking flat earthers, that is, which is one of the reasons for the entertainment value of this website . LOL.
iWitness, Speaking of The Book of Enoch, of which you are so fond of quoting , isn't even in the Bible. It is one of those "apochryphal" books which are considered questionable.

I don't think even the most ardent flat earther is going to agree with iWitness' estimate of the distance from the earth to the sun as being 100 to 200 miles ! LOL

Quote from: iWitness on December 11, 2014, 10:35:40 AM

And if you took the time to read the page linked in the Book of Enoch above, you may have noticed the last verse which states, "37. As he rises, so he sets and decreases not, and rests not, but runs day and night, and his light is sevenfold brighter than that of the moon; but as regards size they are both equal."

You atheists just can handle the Truth in God's Word. Give it up shills, Jesus Christ is Lord.

From Nasa's website:

Quote

The Moon's size and distance contribute to a wonderful coincidence for those of us who live here on Earth. The Moon is about 400 times smaller than the Sun, but it also just happens to be about 400 times closer. The result is that from Earth, they appear to be the same size.

WRONG NASA idiots, they appear the same size because THEY ARE THE SAME SIZE MORONS. Geez Louise.

Considering around 80% of the US population is Christian, it sounds a bit hypocritical of you to be denouncing atheists who go against the grain and aren't gullible enough to give in to religion, kind of like how you say RE'ers are gullible and shills for giving in to RE.

So... if you're going to attempt (and fail) to use Christianity to prove FET- that's for another thread.

By saying that there is no God you are making an even bigger uneducated assumption then the flat earthers do by saying that space travel is a conspiracy.  Science has never proven or disproven the existance of God, so don't pretend like you know the answer.

God's not dead.

Quote from: Jet Fission on December 11, 2014, 10:40:50 AM

Quote from: iWitness on December 11, 2014, 10:35:40 AM

And if you took the time to read the page linked in the Book of Enoch above, you may have noticed the last verse which states, "37. As he rises, so he sets and decreases not, and rests not, but runs day and night, and his light is sevenfold brighter than that of the moon; but as regards size they are both equal."

You atheists just can handle the Truth in God's Word. Give it up shills, Jesus Christ is Lord.

From Nasa's website:

Quote

The Moon's size and distance contribute to a wonderful coincidence for those of us who live here on Earth. The Moon is about 400 times smaller than the Sun, but it also just happens to be about 400 times closer. The result is that from Earth, they appear to be the same size.

WRONG NASA idiots, they appear the same size because THEY ARE THE SAME SIZE MORONS. Geez Louise.

Considering around 80% of the US population is Christian, it sounds a bit hypocritical of you to be denouncing atheists who go against the grain and aren't gullible enough to give in to religion, kind of like how you say RE'ers are gullible and shills for giving in to RE.

So... if you're going to attempt (and fail) to use Christianity to prove FET- that's for another thread.

By saying that there is no God you are making an even bigger uneducated assumption then the flat earthers do by saying that space travel is a conspiracy.  Science has never proven or disproven the existance of God, so don't pretend like you know the answer.

God's not dead.

Science has also not proven or disproven the existence of leprechauns.

Leprechaun's aren't dead.

Quote from: Cartesian on December 14, 2014, 01:30:47 AM

Weather permitting, you can also measure the length of the shadow produced by a vertical stick with a known height.

Or the shadows cast on a wall


One day to go!

Today is the day! And nice idea btw.

Quote from: LuggerSailor on December 20, 2014, 06:13:26 AM

Quote from: Cartesian on December 14, 2014, 01:30:47 AM

Weather permitting, you can also measure the length of the shadow produced by a vertical stick with a known height.

Or the shadows cast on a wall


One day to go!

Today is the day! And nice idea btw.

what time zone do you live in?  This is important information for this experiment.

Quote from: mikeman7918 on December 20, 2014, 09:04:06 PM

Quote from: Jet Fission on December 11, 2014, 10:40:50 AM

Quote from: iWitness on December 11, 2014, 10:35:40 AM

And if you took the time to read the page linked in the Book of Enoch above, you may have noticed the last verse which states, "37. As he rises, so he sets and decreases not, and rests not, but runs day and night, and his light is sevenfold brighter than that of the moon; but as regards size they are both equal."

You atheists just can handle the Truth in God's Word. Give it up shills, Jesus Christ is Lord.

From Nasa's website:

Quote

The Moon's size and distance contribute to a wonderful coincidence for those of us who live here on Earth. The Moon is about 400 times smaller than the Sun, but it also just happens to be about 400 times closer. The result is that from Earth, they appear to be the same size.

WRONG NASA idiots, they appear the same size because THEY ARE THE SAME SIZE MORONS. Geez Louise.

Considering around 80% of the US population is Christian, it sounds a bit hypocritical of you to be denouncing atheists who go against the grain and aren't gullible enough to give in to religion, kind of like how you say RE'ers are gullible and shills for giving in to RE.

So... if you're going to attempt (and fail) to use Christianity to prove FET- that's for another thread.

By saying that there is no God you are making an even bigger uneducated assumption then the flat earthers do by saying that space travel is a conspiracy.  Science has never proven or disproven the existance of God, so don't pretend like you know the answer.

God's not dead.

Science has also not proven or disproven the existence of leprechauns.

Leprechaun's aren't dead.

Do you honestly thibk that insulting me will make me become an atheist?  All it does is make me want to not be like you.  I have heard just about every anti Christian argument that atheists have and none can disprove the existance of God.  I know that it's impossible to prove a negative, but rather then bash my belief why can't you just be happy that I'm a Christian that accepts science to be valid.  Even if my belief is false, it has made me a better person which means that it's a good thing.

Quote from: rottingroom on December 21, 2014, 12:25:16 AM

Quote from: mikeman7918 on December 20, 2014, 09:04:06 PM

Quote from: Jet Fission on December 11, 2014, 10:40:50 AM

Quote from: iWitness on December 11, 2014, 10:35:40 AM

And if you took the time to read the page linked in the Book of Enoch above, you may have noticed the last verse which states, "37. As he rises, so he sets and decreases not, and rests not, but runs day and night, and his light is sevenfold brighter than that of the moon; but as regards size they are both equal."

You atheists just can handle the Truth in God's Word. Give it up shills, Jesus Christ is Lord.

From Nasa's website:

Quote

The Moon's size and distance contribute to a wonderful coincidence for those of us who live here on Earth. The Moon is about 400 times smaller than the Sun, but it also just happens to be about 400 times closer. The result is that from Earth, they appear to be the same size.

WRONG NASA idiots, they appear the same size because THEY ARE THE SAME SIZE MORONS. Geez Louise.

Considering around 80% of the US population is Christian, it sounds a bit hypocritical of you to be denouncing atheists who go against the grain and aren't gullible enough to give in to religion, kind of like how you say RE'ers are gullible and shills for giving in to RE.

So... if you're going to attempt (and fail) to use Christianity to prove FET- that's for another thread.

By saying that there is no God you are making an even bigger uneducated assumption then the flat earthers do by saying that space travel is a conspiracy.  Science has never proven or disproven the existance of God, so don't pretend like you know the answer.

God's not dead.

Science has also not proven or disproven the existence of leprechauns.

Leprechaun's aren't dead.

Do you honestly thibk that insulting me will make me become an atheist?  All it does is make me want to not be like you.  I have heard just about every anti Christian argument that atheists have and none can disprove the existance of God.  I know that it's impossible to prove a negative, but rather then bash my belief why can't you just be happy that I'm a Christian that accepts science to be valid.  Even if my belief is false, it has made me a better person which means that it's a good thing.

It was not a personal insult and I don't care about "converting" you. On a personal level, fine, believe what you want but society as a whole is better off without it.

Quote from: mikeman7918 on December 21, 2014, 08:39:07 AM

Quote from: rottingroom on December 21, 2014, 12:25:16 AM

Quote from: mikeman7918 on December 20, 2014, 09:04:06 PM

Quote from: Jet Fission on December 11, 2014, 10:40:50 AM

Quote from: iWitness on December 11, 2014, 10:35:40 AM

And if you took the time to read the page linked in the Book of Enoch above, you may have noticed the last verse which states, "37. As he rises, so he sets and decreases not, and rests not, but runs day and night, and his light is sevenfold brighter than that of the moon; but as regards size they are both equal."

You atheists just can handle the Truth in God's Word. Give it up shills, Jesus Christ is Lord.

From Nasa's website:

Quote

The Moon's size and distance contribute to a wonderful coincidence for those of us who live here on Earth. The Moon is about 400 times smaller than the Sun, but it also just happens to be about 400 times closer. The result is that from Earth, they appear to be the same size.

WRONG NASA idiots, they appear the same size because THEY ARE THE SAME SIZE MORONS. Geez Louise.

Considering around 80% of the US population is Christian, it sounds a bit hypocritical of you to be denouncing atheists who go against the grain and aren't gullible enough to give in to religion, kind of like how you say RE'ers are gullible and shills for giving in to RE.

So... if you're going to attempt (and fail) to use Christianity to prove FET- that's for another thread.

By saying that there is no God you are making an even bigger uneducated assumption then the flat earthers do by saying that space travel is a conspiracy.  Science has never proven or disproven the existance of God, so don't pretend like you know the answer.

God's not dead.

Science has also not proven or disproven the existence of leprechauns.

Leprechaun's aren't dead.

Do you honestly thibk that insulting me will make me become an atheist?  All it does is make me want to not be like you.  I have heard just about every anti Christian argument that atheists have and none can disprove the existance of God.  I know that it's impossible to prove a negative, but rather then bash my belief why can't you just be happy that I'm a Christian that accepts science to be valid.  Even if my belief is false, it has made me a better person which means that it's a good thing.

It was not a personal insult and I don't care about "converting" you. On a personal level, fine, believe what you want but society as a whole is better off without it.

I'm sorry if my church which was organized countless service projects, taught millions to be better people, and given countless people help in their time of need is inconvenient for you, but I'm pretty sure that the world's not better off without us even if we are wrong.

Quote from: Cartesian on December 21, 2014, 01:18:06 AM

Quote from: LuggerSailor on December 20, 2014, 06:13:26 AM

Quote from: Cartesian on December 14, 2014, 01:30:47 AM

Weather permitting, you can also measure the length of the shadow produced by a vertical stick with a known height.

Or the shadows cast on a wall


One day to go!

Today is the day! And nice idea btw.

what time zone do you live in?  This is important information for this experiment.

I'm in GMT (UTC) about 003°W of the prime meridian.
Too cloudy today but yesterday's photograph or a measurement less than 13° elevation taken about a week ago should be near enough. By the way, those are standard 9" x 3" bricks.

Science has never proven or disproven the existence of God, so don't pretend like you know the answer.

Apologies for a quickie OT...

Science does not have to "prove" that god doesn't exist.  It's the task of those that claim he does to prove that he does.  General logic says that one cannot prove a negative. As someone has already mentioned leprechauns, I'd challenge any flat earther to prove that they don't exist.  Can't be done.

If I tell somebody I can fly like a bird, then it's not their job to prove that I can't;  I have to prove I can by jumping off the roof.

The "proof of god" thing is invariably raised by the bible-bashers on all these nominally science-based forums.  They just can't seem to separate science from fantasy.   

Quote from: mikeman7918 on December 20, 2014, 09:04:06 PM

Science has never proven or disproven the existence of God, so don't pretend like you know the answer.

Apologies for a quickie OT...

Science does not have to "prove" that god doesn't exist.  It's the task of those that claim he does to prove that he does.  General logic says that one cannot prove a negative. As someone has already mentioned leprechauns, I'd challenge any flat earther to prove that they don't exist.  Can't be done.

If I tell somebody I can fly like a bird, then it's not their job to prove that I can't;  I have to prove I can by jumping off the roof.

The "proof of god" thing is invariably raised by the bible-bashers on all these nominally science-based forums.  They just can't seem to separate science from fantasy.   

I actually expect there to be no scientific proof of the existance of God because if there was then finding truth would be way too easy and life is not supposed to be easy.  The bible mentions Pangea when it says "and God gathered all the land in one place" which wasn't proven until somewhat recently and the bible also mentioned a beginning of the universe before the big bang theory existed.  In fact, wouldn't a Big Bang like that be what you would expect to happen when God says "let there be light"?  If anybody here is living a fantasy, it's you with your depressing life is a miserable meaningless accident that ends at death beliefs.

I'd ve happy to discuss the nonexistence of god elsewhere but please stop derailing this thread. I actually want people to participate and today is the day.

I'll make a more detailed post later but I got 11.5° and a haight for the sun of 1000 miles.

Quote from: Cartesian on December 21, 2014, 01:18:06 AM

Quote from: LuggerSailor on December 20, 2014, 06:13:26 AM

Quote from: Cartesian on December 14, 2014, 01:30:47 AM

Weather permitting, you can also measure the length of the shadow produced by a vertical stick with a known height.

Or the shadows cast on a wall


One day to go!

Today is the day! And nice idea btw.

what time zone do you live in?  This is important information for this experiment.

I am GMT+0 but the sun was nowhere to be seen today unfortunately

In my opinion, the Sun is nowhere NEAR 3000 miles up. It's more like 100-200 miles TOPS.

Take a look at this picture taken from a weather balloon at 110,000 Feet (~20 miles):



Look at the angle of the rays and the position of the Sun and you can see it's only about 100-200 miles up.

The Stars, on the other hand, are much higher up near the top of the Firmament.

You have to remember that the Sun doesn't take the same course every day, and has various routes throughout the year. The Book of Enoch explains the Sun's courses more thoroughly:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/boe075.htm

Here is a pretty good video explaining the angles of the Sun's rays on flat earth:
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This thread has been inactive for a while, but here is something directed to iWitness.:

1.Do you claim the moon and the sun are about the same distance from the earth and about 100 or 200 miles from the earth ?
  Yes or no ?

2.On what do you base your measurements ?
   Please show your methods and information for your        measurements.

3.Amateur radio operators can send and receive radio signals.
   Truth or a lie ?

4.Amateur radio operators can send signals to the moon.
   Truth or lie ?

5.Amateur radio operators can send signals to the moon and have them bounce off the moon in an operation called "Moon Bounce."
  Truth or lie ?

6.Amateur radio operators on earth can receive signals bounced off the moon.
   Truth or lie ?

7.Amateur radio operators can measure the time it takes for a signal to the moon, bounce off the moon and be received back on earth as about 2.5 seconds.
   Truth or lie ?

8.Amateur radio operators can determine the return path is one half the total "2-Way Time" or about 1.275 seconds.
   Truth or lie ?

9.The speed of radio waves has been determined to be 300,000 kilometers per second or 186,000 miles per second.
   Truth or lie ?

10. Distance is equal to times times speed .
     Truth or lie ?

11.Multiply the time (1.275 seconds) times the speed (186,00 miles per second) equals 238,150 miles.
     Truth or lie ?

12.This figure is close to the approximate known measured distance to the moon of about 250,000 miles - plus or minus due to relatively small variations in this distance.
     Truth or lie ?

13. Your figures of 100 or 200 miles.
      Truth or lie ?

I guess iWitness has chosen to ignore my last post and move on to other threads to post his copypasta..

Seems to be about par for the course fromiWitness.

I guess iWitness has chosen to ignore my last post and move on to other threads to post his copypasta..

Seems to be about par for the course from iWitness.

The one and only reason iWitness posts here is to push his religious viewpoint down our throats.  He obviously has no real interest in science.

It's common behaviour by most religious zealots;  check out any site you like, and you'll find them infesting the forums with their proselytising—thinly disguised as input relevant to the forum's intended content.

It's also something moderators often overlook—maybe fearing the wrath of god LOL.  THIS thread is a classic example here.

There is a place for every thing but this website is not the place for iWitness' ramblings. At least IMHO.

I was under the mistaken impression. Which  was that the reason for this website was that the flat earthers were trying to post their reasons(?) why the earth is flat ? And not argue theology and religion ?

There is a place for every thing but this website is not the place for iWitness' ramblings. At least IMHO.

I agree totally.  (See my link to one of his religious topics.)  I'm bemused that the moderators here are allowing repetitious religious ramblings by iWitness in total contravention of the forum's rules, particularly considering that we round earthers are frequently reprimanded for far lesser infringements.  But then of course, iWitness is a flat earther, and we all know they're subject to less stringent moderation than the round earthers.  And this is classic evidence for this.

Not good enough.   

Quote from: iWitness on December 11, 2014, 10:25:13 AM

In my opinion, the Sun is nowhere NEAR 3000 miles up. It's more like 100-200 miles TOPS.

Take a look at this picture taken from a weather balloon at 110,000 Feet (~20 miles):



Look at the angle of the rays and the position of the Sun and you can see it's only about 100-200 miles up.

The Stars, on the other hand, are much higher up near the top of the Firmament.

You have to remember that the Sun doesn't take the same course every day, and has various routes throughout the year. The Book of Enoch explains the Sun's courses more thoroughly:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/boe075.htm

Here is a pretty good video explaining the angles of the Sun's rays on flat earth:
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This thread has been inactive for a while, but here is something directed to iWitness.:

1.Do you claim the moon and the sun are about the same distance from the earth and about 100 or 200 miles from the earth ?
  Yes or no ?

2.On what do you base your measurements ?
   Please show your methods and information for your        measurements.

3.Amateur radio operators can send and receive radio signals.
   Truth or a lie ?

4.Amateur radio operators can send signals to the moon.
   Truth or lie ?

5.Amateur radio operators can send signals to the moon and have them bounce off the moon in an operation called "Moon Bounce."
  Truth or lie ?

6.Amateur radio operators on earth can receive signals bounced off the moon.
   Truth or lie ?

7.Amateur radio operators can measure the time it takes for a signal to the moon, bounce off the moon and be received back on earth as about 2.5 seconds.
   Truth or lie ?

8.Amateur radio operators can determine the return path is one half the total "2-Way Time" or about 1.275 seconds.
   Truth or lie ?

9.The speed of radio waves has been determined to be 300,000 kilometers per second or 186,000 miles per second.
   Truth or lie ?

10. Distance is equal to times times speed .
     Truth or lie ?

11.Multiply the time (1.275 seconds) times the speed (186,00 miles per second) equals 238,150 miles.
     Truth or lie ?

12.This figure is close to the approximate known measured distance to the moon of about 250,000 miles - plus or minus due to relatively small variations in this distance.
     Truth or lie ?

13. Your figures of 100 or 200 miles.
      Truth or lie ?

I took the time to explain my figures.

I haven't seen any thing along those lines from iWitness
He hasn't even answered my questions.
Most disappointing.

In my opinion, the Sun is nowhere NEAR 3000 miles up. It's more like 100-200 miles TOPS.

Take a look at this picture taken from a weather balloon at 110,000 Feet (~20 miles):



Look at the angle of the rays and the position of the Sun and you can see it's only about 100-200 miles up.

The Stars, on the other hand, are much higher up near the top of the Firmament.

You have to remember that the Sun doesn't take the same course every day, and has various routes throughout the year. The Book of Enoch explains the Sun's courses more thoroughly:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/boe075.htm

Here is a pretty good video explaining the angles of the Sun's rays on flat earth:
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This a repeated request for a reply from iWitness

I just want to know how he obtained his figures and will not question his results.

I am most interested in knowing the methods or the source of information  for his measurement of the distance from the earth to the sun as 100 or 200 miles since they differ from the usual flat earth measurements, the most common of which is 3000 miles.

Once again, no further criticism, but just an interest in the method that iWitness used or the sources of information for his figures. Once again, I think I have explained mine in detail for his replies.

If iWitness has any questions or criticism of my questions, I will be glad to elaborate or give answers  on any points that he might need more clarification,   but I would also be glad if he would answer my questions in return.

This a repeated request for a reply from iWitness

I just want to know how he obtained his figures and will not question his results.

Unfortunately, as I've discovered after asking iWitness several relevant questions, he simply ignores them—despite repeated reminders.

The vast majority of his comments and/or replies are centred around his religious beliefs, and his overly-literal interpretation of the Abrahamic bible.  A few days ago, he even started an entire thread with a purely religious topic, and which escaped any censure from the moderators for some unknown reason.

It's also a given that anybody who truly believes in the existence of supernatural entities and/or paranormal phenomena really has no place commenting on any nominally science-based forum.  For those reasons, I'd suggest you're only wasting your time and your bandwidth in expecting any sort of credible responses from the guy.  He's obviously living on another planet LOL.  Even if he claims it doesn't exist.

Quote from: Googleotomy on December 29, 2014, 08:08:24 PM

This a repeated request for a reply from iWitness

I just want to know how he obtained his figures and will not question his results.

Unfortunately, as I've discovered after asking iWitness several relevant questions, he simply ignores them—despite repeated reminders.

The vast majority of his comments and/or replies are centred around his religious beliefs, and his overly-literal interpretation of the Abrahamic bible.  A few days ago, he even started an entire thread with a purely religious topic, and which escaped any censure from the moderators for some unknown reason.

It's also a given that anybody who truly believes in the existence of supernatural entities and/or paranormal phenomena really has no place commenting on any nominally science-based forum.  For those reasons, I'd suggest you're only wasting your time and your bandwidth in expecting any sort of credible responses from the guy.  He's obviously living on another planet LOL.  Even if he claims it doesn't exist.

I thought I would give it another try. Hope springs eternal.
But...I really believe my repeated requests only proves your point. (And mine, too.)

I'm just interested in the 100 to 200 mile distance from the earth to the sun.
So I will just limit my question to just that one.

I think he said it was from the rays from the sun in the photo.
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But which rays ? There seem to be several in the photo ?

I'm not going to make a reply to that. I await his explanation.

It seems I'm back - off the banned list, that is - so I shall try to be more careful and make no more "off topic" postings. But my question does have to do with the topic.:
"RE:Measure The FE Distance To The Sun"

I'm just interested in the 100 to 200 mile distance from the earth to the sun.

I think he said it was from the rays from the sun in the photo.

Firstly, iWitness obviously knows nothing about photography, and seems to genuinely think the image he posted shows the sun's "rays".  But in fact it doesn't.

The effect is caused by the optical construction of the various lens groups within the camera, and is called a "starburst" effect.  To make a long explanation short, a smaller aperture will exaggerate the rays of light you see when compared to a wider aperture.  When your aperture becomes small, the blades will create stronger angles which produce this effect as the light hits the sensor. When you shoot wide open, your aperture will be more round, giving you a softer light source.  And the number of "points" is equal to twice the number of blades in the aperture (or iris) of the lens.
When you have a light source that is significantly brighter than the surrounding environment (such as the sun during the day, or almost any kind of light at night), the starburst effect becomes more apparent.

It seems I'm back - off the banned list, that is - so I shall try to be more careful and make no more "off topic" postings.

It's interesting to note that there's obviously two sets of rules on these forums as far as moderation goes;  one set for flat earthers, and a more repressive set for round earthers.  iWitness's religious topic, and his repeated off-topic religious ramblings are an obvious example.  And people such as sceptimatic, cikljamas, Pongo, Heiwa, and Charles Bloomington get away with repeated infringements of the forum's rules, but never seem to earn public reprimands.  Even the repeated use of the "F" word by cikljamas draws no rebuke.  It seems that all too often, warnings are directed at the round earthers when we touch a flat earth raw nerve, or ask legitimate questions that the flat earthers have no credible answers for.

In fact I see you (and me) as a couple of the more credible round earth respondents here, but conversely a couple of the most often rebuked.

Life's strange ain't it?   

C'est la vie  Deja vu. Et cetera, et cetera and so forth.  LOL.

PS- I am well aware of the "star burst" effect. I thought it also could be "lens flare."
I have gotten some of pictures like those....Some I didn't want ! LOL. I have used a special filter to get the same effect. But I'm just an amateur. Apparently there aren't even any amateur photographers in the flat earther ranks. Or if there are, they have just kept quiet about it. It would just be too close to being scientific !

But back on topic. iWitness' photos prove nothing about the size or distance of the sun. And they can deny the facts all they want to, but it still won't change the facts.

I think this website, among other things, is a terrible example of the double standard when it comes to the subjects of off-topic and de-railing.