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« on: November 09, 2006, 04:50:03 PM »
How many can one person have?

please post country of residence and citizenship req's (if you know them)
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2006, 11:56:09 PM »
I believe that Canada currently allows dual citizenship with a variety of countries.  I believe this to be the case since I read recently about a push in government to revoke passports for Canadians living abroad.  During Israel's attack on Lebanon this summer, the Canadian government got thousands of people with dual Canadian/Syrian or Canadian/Lebanese citizenship out of the line of fire.

I have some friends who have dual Canadian/U.S. citizenship so it would seem that that is also possible.  I also think that dual citizenship is possible among different Commonwealth nations, and in fact is easier than in most other cases -- there are lots of dual Canadian/Brits around here.

I am personally interested in dual citizenship; unfortunately I don't know the exact regs for any of the countries I've listed.  In the case of Canada you could find out about it at www.cic.gc.ca (CIC = Citizenship and Immigration Canada).
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2006, 06:04:39 AM »
you can have dual citizenships in australia and many other countries as well.  recently when Israel invaded Lebanon lots of lebonese people with dual citizenship were evacuated.
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2006, 12:24:35 PM »
My friend has citizenship in Ireland and the US, I'm not sure the US recognizes that however.
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2006, 12:25:45 PM »
I have Italy/USA, but I want more citizenships
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2006, 12:32:20 PM »
Convert to Judaism and get Israeli citizenship :)
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2006, 12:44:08 PM »
Thats all that is needed... interesting... how do they confirm this?
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2006, 12:49:11 PM »
Naw I'm joking, I don't think converting gets you automatic Israeli citizenship; if you are of Jewish descent, however (Jewish the ethnicity rather than the religion) you do get automatic citizenship, no matter your religion. If I wanted to I could get dual citizenship with Israel.
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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2006, 03:21:11 PM »


Countries that do (yellow) and do not (red) permit multiple citizenship. No information is available for countries colored gray. Please note that in many countries the situation is far more complex than just 'yes' or 'no'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_citizenship

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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2006, 05:18:30 PM »
I have dual Canada/USA citizenship
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2006, 06:05:14 PM »
Good for you, you have somewhere to go if they start the draft. I have conscientious objector status, but you never know what might happen if a war gets bad enough...
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2006, 06:37:23 PM »
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My friend has citizenship in Ireland and the US, I'm not sure the US recognizes that however.


I have the same.
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2006, 08:55:58 PM »
I've always thought the draft is kind of silly.  When you have to force kids off the street to fight a war in another land, it might be a good sign the war ain't worth fighting.

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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2006, 11:44:43 PM »
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I've always thought the draft is kind of silly.  When you have to force kids off the street to fight a war in another land, it might be a good sign the war ain't worth fighting.


its not worth fighting to the individual soldiers, but the men with money and power sure want it fought.
quote="diegodraw"]you never mentioned anything about antagonizing naive idiots who have reason to believe they should defend what everyone already knows is logical....Not like anybody would ever have fun doing that, of course[/quote]

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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2006, 10:38:59 AM »
Exactly.  The men with money and power aren't supposed to be representing people with money and power.  Well, they are, but they aren't the only people out there and I'm pretty sure they're outnumbered by the poor and the middle classes.

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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2006, 11:00:31 AM »
God damn, ubuntu.  That's a little fucking much for the avatar.
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2006, 11:05:24 AM »
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I've always thought the draft is kind of silly.  When you have to force kids off the street to fight a war in another land, it might be a good sign the war ain't worth fighting.




This idea always reminded me of the song "Kinky Sex Makes The World Go 'Round" by Dead Kennedys
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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2006, 11:07:49 AM »
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Exactly.  The men with money and power aren't supposed to be representing people with money and power.  Well, they are, but they aren't the only people out there and I'm pretty sure they're outnumbered by the poor and the middle classes.


It really depends.  I think the draft should only be used in times of GREAT peril, when normal volunteers into the military just isn't enough for resources.  I think it was OK to utilize the draft during the World Wars.  But they should have cut it off after WWII.  The draft really fucked things up for a lot of people during Vietnam and the Korean war.
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« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2006, 11:09:22 AM »
I think the whole enlistment process was very different during the World Wars, which in a way, was a reason for the draft.  I could be wrong, though.

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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2006, 11:09:52 AM »
What was it that happened to society whereas we condemn the draft?
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« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2006, 11:19:20 AM »
I think the draft is something that is good only when truly "necessary and proper," if not, than bad things can come from it
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« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2006, 11:21:27 AM »
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I think the draft is something that is good only when truly "necessary and proper," if not, than bad things can come from it


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« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2006, 11:21:49 AM »
Who gets to determine when it is necessary and proper?

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« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2006, 11:22:37 AM »
The people, duh.
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« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2006, 11:23:58 AM »
hmm... According to what I was insinuating, congrefs, but I'm not sure what the law is about the draft.
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« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2006, 10:18:04 AM »
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« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2006, 11:52:53 PM »
i didnt think the draft was installed in either of the world wars  :?
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« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2006, 07:54:03 AM »
It was instituted in both the World Wars.  It was quite different than it was in Vietnam.

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« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2006, 09:41:10 AM »
In Australia a person can have dual citizenship. However that's not necessarily a good thing. If an Australian has a dual nationality (even if he or she was born in Australia) then they are also considered a constitutional alien. This is because current Austrlian law interpretation defines an alien as anybody owing allegience to a foreign national power.

So despite the fact that I was born in Australia because I am a dual national I am also considered an alien and can be affected by laws regarding aliens.