Orion launching in minutes

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rottingroom

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Orion launching in minutes
« on: December 04, 2014, 05:56:08 AM »

Re: Orion launching in minutes
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2014, 06:12:25 AM »
http://www.ustream.tv/nasahdtv

I guess we're watching a very expensive rocket show at the expense of taxpayers for the financial benefit of a flat earth cover up!

Re: Orion launching in minutes
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2014, 06:49:54 AM »
It is cancelled for today, even more money spent on the grand conspiracy!

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rottingroom

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Re: Orion launching in minutes
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2014, 08:10:09 AM »
They may try again tomorrow.

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Re: Orion launching in minutes
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2014, 04:25:46 AM »
I think, therefore I am

Re: Orion launching in minutes
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2014, 05:40:54 AM »
It has launched! Good job NASA!

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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2014, 05:43:34 AM »

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Re: Orion launching in minutes
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2014, 09:41:04 AM »
Anybody who believes for one second that this was a real rocket launch wants stringing up by the bollocks. It's a total and utter piss take of people's intelligence.

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Re: Orion launching in minutes
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2014, 09:55:34 AM »
Anybody who believes for one second that this was a real rocket launch wants stringing up by the bollocks. It's a total and utter piss take of people's intelligence.
Do you have evidence of the contrary? Or do you just feel like it's fake?
To a flat earth theorist, being a "skeptic" is to have confirmation bias.
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Re: Orion launching in minutes
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2014, 02:10:16 PM »
Anybody who believes for one second that this was a real rocket launch wants stringing up by the bollocks. It's a total and utter piss take of people's intelligence.

Hundreds of thousands of people live within viewing distance of Cape Canaveral launches, so at least tens of thousands could have seen that rocket in the sky just by looking out their kitchen window.  In other words, the launch was not an illusion by Criss Angel or David Copperfield.  So, flat earthers, what was that thing that went up into the sky from Cape Canaveral at 7:05am today if it was not a rocket?  And if it did not orbit the earth twice after reaching an altitude of 3,600 miles, what's your theory on what it was doing and where it was during the 4.5 hours that NASA says it was in orbit?  (And can we please have an answer by someone besides Sceptimatic. I am not interested in the opinion of a person who believes that the Sun is inside the earth and that everything in the sky is a relection.)
Sceptimatic is a proven liar - he claims to have authored several books but won't reveal their names.

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Re: Orion launching in minutes
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2014, 03:34:08 PM »
I missed it but lucky for me there is a video of the first ten minutes.
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Re: Orion launching in minutes
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2014, 04:36:04 PM »
Anybody who believes for one second that this was a real rocket launch wants stringing up by the bollocks. It's a total and utter piss take of people's intelligence.

Hundreds of thousands of people live within viewing distance of Cape Canaveral launches, so at least tens of thousands could have seen that rocket in the sky just by looking out their kitchen window.  In other words, the launch was not an illusion by Criss Angel or David Copperfield.  So, flat earthers, what was that thing that went up into the sky from Cape Canaveral at 7:05am today if it was not a rocket?  And if it did not orbit the earth twice after reaching an altitude of 3,600 miles, what's your theory on what it was doing and where it was during the 4.5 hours that NASA says it was in orbit?  (And can we please have an answer by someone besides Sceptimatic. I am not interested in the opinion of a person who believes that the Sun is inside the earth and that everything in the sky is a relection.)

So what? The rocket launch might be real, but not the mission itself and the details about it. How difficult is it to launch a dummy rocket which disintegrates in the higher atmosphere and then pretend you're recovering something from the ocean? Do you really believe that after so many space missions all the photos and videos from space look like garbage? The Earth looks like nothing, the imagery is actually inferior to what we see in most sci-fi movies. How about the Sun why is it never blinding? Where the heck are they hiding that it is always relatively dark? I am not talking about the background, but about the spaceship itself. I would expect it to be super shiny, so bright in fact that a photo would be difficult to take. If you were to  believe videos and photos then perhaps you should believe that the actors in Interstellar really flew to Saturn and went into another galaxy through a black hole. I won't be surprised if after a few decades NASA(or the fake 'private' space companies) actually start pretending to have achieved something like that. People would believe it anyway. It is incredibly stupid propaganda. Don't you realize that you believe everything you're shown?

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Re: Orion launching in minutes
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2014, 04:49:43 PM »
So the video is fake because the spaceship isn't shiny?

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Re: Orion launching in minutes
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2014, 05:26:43 PM »
No, it's fake because they have people who know how to make correct exposures.
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Re: Orion launching in minutes
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2014, 06:34:13 PM »
Oh good job. The people getting given a yearly budget of about 999999999999999 USD to pay off Google, and the extensive list of last-resort claims that Flat Earthers give, can't get a decent camera? Logic? Oh right, we're at Flat Earth Unprovable Idea(NOT THEORY, theories are testable. Also, theory is a term from the conveniently incorrect scientific method, so why do you use it?)'s website. Where illogical statements know no bounds.
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Re: Orion launching in minutes
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2014, 07:40:11 PM »
So what? The rocket launch might be real, but not the mission itself and the details about it. How difficult is it to launch a dummy rocket which disintegrates in the higher atmosphere and then pretend you're recovering something from the ocean? Do you really believe that after so many space missions all the photos and videos from space look like garbage? The Earth looks like nothing, the imagery is actually inferior to what we see in most sci-fi movies. How about the Sun why is it never blinding? Where the heck are they hiding that it is always relatively dark? I am not talking about the background, but about the spaceship itself. I would expect it to be super shiny, so bright in fact that a photo would be difficult to take. If you were to  believe videos and photos then perhaps you should believe that the actors in Interstellar really flew to Saturn and went into another galaxy through a black hole. I won't be surprised if after a few decades NASA(or the fake 'private' space companies) actually start pretending to have achieved something like that. People would believe it anyway. It is incredibly stupid propaganda. Don't you realize that you believe everything you're shown?

As always, your flat earth claims rely on a massive, yet completely unproven, conspiracy.  In this case, you admit that a rocket was launched but your theory (without evidence, as always) is that NASA intentionally blew up the rocket, waiting, I suppose, until it was too far away for amateur astronomers to see it.  Then they pretended to recover the rocket from the ocean. 

Here's the problem (the same one that all of these idiotic theories have): dozens, if not hundreds, of people would have to keep this secret.  The whole scam would come crashing down if a single NASA employee who knows about it were to send an anonymous tip to the New York Times.  Or if just one disgruntled Navy sailor on the ship that went to pick up the non-existent rocket blew the whistle.  Or if just one retired NASA official decided to tell the truth while on his deathbed, since he feared dying without telling the truth.  But not a single one of the thousands of people who has known this amazing secret since the Apollo program started has EVER leaked the secret. 

Deep Throat leaked to the Washington Post and brought down President Nixon.  Edward Snowden leaked tons of NSA information to the government's great embarrassment.  Julian Assange leaked tremendous amounts of secret information from many countries.  And numerous American whistleblowers tell the truth all the time because they believe it's the ethical and honorable thing to do.  Yet no insider has ever revealed that NASA, the satellite industry, private rocket industry companies and astronomy and aerospace engineering itself are all hoaxes.  No one, ever, has done this.  And that's because the government has issued threats to thousands of people that their families will be killed if they reveal the secret?  And not one of those threatened employees was upset enough about this threat to provide anonymous information to a journalist? 
Sceptimatic is a proven liar - he claims to have authored several books but won't reveal their names.

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Re: Orion launching in minutes
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2014, 09:34:27 PM »
People have ratted out NASA.
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Re: Orion launching in minutes
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2014, 09:49:06 PM »
People have ratted out NASA.
We are listening.
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Re: Orion launching in minutes
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2014, 08:44:07 AM »
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Question and the stupidest answer ever about the meaning of Apollo missions  UTTERLY EMBARRASSING AND EXPOSING - MUST SEE!!!---READ NONVERBAL CUES:
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2,5 seconds enough to inform astronaut on the "Moon" piece of his valuable backpack's content just dropped off...NO TIME DILATION AT ALL!!!



http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54350.0#.VIMtIvJW_1s

Michael Collins was designated the navigator for Apollo 11. In his book he lists the 37 navigation stars they were to use, plus their corresponding octal numbers which identified them to the computers. Here's how Michael explains that navigation package:

"The astronaut, peering out through either his telescope or his sextant finds one of the chosen few, superimposes a + on it, and pushes a button at the instant of perfect alignment. He then tells the computer which star it was, by numbers. Repeating this process on a second star allows the computer and the platform to determine which way the spacecraft is pointing. So we now know which way is up? Well, not exactly, because "up" is a rather fragile concept meaning away from the center of the earth, a direction opposite the gravity vector used to clutch us tightly by. But suppose we cannot even see the earth in our window, suppose we are floating free of earth's gravity. What now, M.I.T.? Back to our friendly stars. We simply define a new up-down and left-right, using the stars in place of earth. All will be well as long as we all play the game by the same rules, as long as the ground controllers send us instructions using the same stellar frame of reference. Now we are free of all terrestrial conventions and can correct our course to and from the Moon by pointing in the proper direction relative to the stars."

Collins seems to be saying that the sextant  had a cross hair in its optics. But sextants don't have cross-hairs. Curiously, I went sniffing through his book and found out that sure enough he was talking about a sextant.   Almost 100 pages later he continues:

"Unlike Gemini, however, Apollo has a fancy computer tied to the optics, and now I call on it for help; it responds by swinging the sextant around until it points at where it thinks Menkent is. Aha! There it is, in plain view, and it's a simple task for me to align the cross-hairs precisely on it and push a button at the instant of alignment. Now I repeat the process using Nunki, and the computer pats me on the back by flashing the information that my measurements differ from its stored star angle data by .01 degree. It displays this information as 00001. In M.I.T.-ese, a perfect reading of 00000 is called five balls."


Aha! There it is, in plain view: he does claim his sextant has a cross-hair, but this cannot be true! A sextant is an instrument that uses mirrors mounted on a calibrated movable leg. The essence of the instrument is to superimpose one object over the image of another thereby measuring the angle between them. On Earth, one of the objects is usually the horizon but here he is measuring the arc distance between two stars. As I said, there is no reason to have a cross-hair.

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sokarul

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Re: Orion launching in minutes
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2014, 01:18:15 PM »
I will just post this video again to disprove the first half of your post.
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What does time dilation have to do with the moon?

The second part I don't even need to, it's just you rambling about nothing.
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