Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet

Come on Heiwa. Just copy paste it here please. Let us all admire your misunderstanding.

It is not just copy/paste with all my links and pictures. Do not wet your pants, just click on the links of my website provided and admire my findings. If you find something wrong, send an email and do not hide behind ridiculous pseudonymes like Cartesian, inquisitive, Pythagoras, etc. 

I wonder why I am one of very few with a real name/address on this forum. Most just hide behind stupid pseudonymes.

AHA, afraid of DHS, NSA, FBI, local PD, local terrorists, KKK, etc.? Well, I don't feel sorry for that mess.

Heiwa kept constantly arguing that Rosetta couldn't have been looped around a planet making a 180° turn. But from this presentation video, I don't see where Rosetta ever did that. There were 3 rendezvous with Earth (to accelerate) and one with Mars (to slow down):

#ws" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Rosetta's twelve-year journey in space

I'd rather not risk infecting my computer.  So can you past it hear?

Upgrade your anti-virus software or use someone's else PC. I have actually many visitors using their mobile phones, pads, whatever to admire my work and nobody complains. Did you soil your pants? Have a look!

Heiwa kept constantly arguing that Rosetta couldn't have been looped around a planet making a 180° turn. But from this presentation video, I don't see where Rosetta ever did that. There were 3 rendezvous with Earth (to accelerate) and one with Mars (to slow down):

Pls listen to what I say - Rosetta gravity assist kicks changing direction 1, 2, 5, X, 90 or 180° and velocity up/down are not possible because you cannot control the speed/direction/location of space craft Rosetta prior to the kick and if you get too close to Earth you will crash. Basic.

Only ESA sect members believe the nonsense with gravity assist kicks - some get tattoed from top to bottom and then dress up in shirts with nude girls on.

Quote from: Cartesian on January 02, 2015, 08:18:04 AM

Heiwa kept constantly arguing that Rosetta couldn't have been looped around a planet making a 180° turn. But from this presentation video, I don't see where Rosetta ever did that. There were 3 rendezvous with Earth (to accelerate) and one with Mars (to slow down):

Pls listen to what I say - Rosetta gravity assist kicks changing direction 1, 2, 5, X, 90 or 180° and velocity up/down are not possible because you cannot control the speed/direction/location of space craft Rosetta prior to the kick and if you get too close to Earth you will crash. Basic.

Only ESA sect members believe the nonsense with gravity assist kicks - some get tattoed from top to bottom and then dress up in shirts with nude girls on.

Care to show how you came to the conclusion it cannot be controlled?

Rosetta has thrusters and reaction wheels. I don't see why it is impossible to adjust its speed/direction.

Quote from: Heiwa on January 02, 2015, 08:28:53 AM

Quote from: Cartesian on January 02, 2015, 08:18:04 AM

Heiwa kept constantly arguing that Rosetta couldn't have been looped around a planet making a 180° turn. But from this presentation video, I don't see where Rosetta ever did that. There were 3 rendezvous with Earth (to accelerate) and one with Mars (to slow down):

Pls listen to what I say - Rosetta gravity assist kicks changing direction 1, 2, 5, X, 90 or 180° and velocity up/down are not possible because you cannot control the speed/direction/location of space craft Rosetta prior to the kick and if you get too close to Earth you will crash. Basic.

Only ESA sect members believe the nonsense with gravity assist kicks - some get tattoed from top to bottom and then dress up in shirts with nude girls on.

Care to show how you came to the conclusion it cannot be controlled?

You'll find it on my web page. Just klick! Don't shit in your pants!

Continually posting suggestions like go and look at my popular website just stinks of you are making money per views or your website contains malicious content. We are all well aware you have a website I think you can stop forcing  it on us now. If you want to debate on this forum then from my point of view you should post Your evidence on this forum.

Rosetta has thrusters and reaction wheels. I don't see why it is impossible to adjust its speed/direction.

You need fuel + full control/knowledge of speed, direction and location in 3D space around the Sun, etc. You cannot fill up your fuel tank in space!

If you visit my web page you'll find why the Apollo clowns couldn't fly to the Moon apart from lack of fuel. They also lacked full control/knowledge of speed, direction and location in 3D space of the space craft around the Moon and would have spinned off into eternal space the way they fooled around inside the space craft.
I always admire the Apollo 11 clowns that after 262 800 seconds of variable speed space travel from Earth decided to enter Moon orbit by braking and going backwards. The speed was then >2400 m/s towards the Moon or 100 000 m above the Moon. The Moon was moving at > 1000 m/s relative the Earth.

Then they started manually braking and turning to get into Moon orbit at 1500 m/s speed. For that the US heroes fired the brake rocket for 357.5 seconds, producing 97 400 N thrust in the exact direction, burning 10 898 kg of fuel, and suddenly they were safely in Moon orbit. Amazing. Imagine burning almost 11 tons of fuel just to brake for 6 minutes going backwards and suddenly you are in Moon orbit!
If they had directed the rocket brake thrust >2° in the wrong direction, they would have missed the Moon altogether and could never return to planet Earth. 
 

Look, we are now talking about the possibility of gravity assist. Don't talk about other nonsense. Just focus on one subject first.

You seem to be under the impression that one cannot know that precise location speed and direction of an object. Why is this?

You seem to be under the impression that one cannot know that precise location speed and direction of an object. Why is this?

Lack of light? Fog? Mist? Object hidden by a cloud. Or you are on the wrong side of the rotating Earth and the object is out of sight on the other side? 
Or maybe the attoed ESA controller is sleeping at his control board if the object is Rosetta?
You seem to believe you are living in the perfect DHS/NSA Disneyworld where your location and thinking is always known. I really feel sorry for you - cannot use Google because it links to other web sites that cannot be trusted. So I will no longer discuss with you. You seem too stupid, too.

Why would fog or mist be a problem for a space probe?
Why would position of the earth's orientation be a problem?

And Heiwa, can you focus on gravity assist in particular please? Tell us why do you think it's not possible. Try your best not to derail.

Quote from: Pythagoras on January 02, 2015, 09:14:18 AM

You seem to be under the impression that one cannot know that precise location speed and direction of an object. Why is this?

Lack of light? Fog? Mist? Object hidden by a cloud. Or you are on the wrong side of the rotating Earth and the object is out of sight on the other side? 
Or maybe the attoed ESA controller is sleeping at his control board if the object is Rosetta?
You seem to believe you are living in the perfect DHS/NSA Disneyworld where your location and thinking is always known. I really feel sorry for you - cannot use Google because it links to other web sites that cannot be trusted. So I will no longer discuss with you. You seem too stupid, too.

The way that space probes navigate is by locating a few start to know it's orientation and then finding at least two planets to find it's location.  If you find your location at different times then you can calculate your velocity.  The orbits of the planets are well known and easily predicted, and there is unlimited visibility in space.  What's the problem here?

I have actually many visitors using their mobile phones, pads, whatever to admire my work and nobody complains. Did you soil your pants? Have a look!

No... you don't have "many" visitors who "admire" your sites.  Most people that end up there are simply having a look at just how laughably absurd all your lunatic claims are—mainly about your silly 9/11 claims of an "inside job".   Your distorted ego seems to be telling you that all those visitors to your sites actually believe the rubbish you spew—amazing as it is LOL.

If anybody wants to read how easily Björkman's whack-job "theories" are repeatedly shot down, and with little effort, you can check out ApolloHoax.net.....

"That's Anders Björkman.  He's no engineer.  He's a blowhard conspiracy theorist who goes around pretending to investigate engineering incidents (especially maritime incidents like the "Estonia" accident) and writing popular books attributing them to conspiracies.  There's no point drooling over the million Euros because he doesn't have it and there's no talking him out of his delusions.  He's about as woo as they come.

His fuel "study" is based on his personal inability to discover the published parameters and his inability to work the rocket equations properly and to understand astrodynamics.  He attributes these, his personal failures, to NASA and claims NASA is hiding things."

—There's no evidence to even suggest that Björkman has ever been anywhere near the "Estonia".   

Why would fog or mist be a problem for a space probe?
Why would position of the earth's orientation be a problem?

You have to study, e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyby_anomaly - evidently it is a joke, but anyway: "Maybe any velocity increase was masked by atmospheric drag of the lower altitude of 303 km."

Imagine atmospheric drag at 303 000 m altitude. What atmosphere is there at that altitude? Any ideas? I thought it was empty space.

Note also that Rosetta didn't use any fuel at all to correct its speed, direction, position to carry out four gravity assist kicks.

Rosetta just flew around in space for 9 years and was kicked around the Sun between moving planets four times with no adjustments required at all. Magic! Only children believe such nonsense.

Quote from: Heiwa on January 02, 2015, 08:20:43 AM

I have actually many visitors using their mobile phones, pads, whatever to admire my work and nobody complains. Did you soil your pants? Have a look!

No... you don't have "many" visitors who "admire" your sites. 

Sorry, you must have soiled your underwear down under - did it drop on your head? As webmaster, etc, of my popular site I know I had 511 happy visitors yesterday, i.e. none complained to me. Of course nothing compared with the last week September 2014 when I had > 15 000 visitors/week - due to the fact the it was 20 years since M/S Estonia was sunk in the Baltic caused by hull leakage/sabotage killing plenty people aboard and the Swedish government started a cover-up killing a few extra people ashore too, while suggesting the visor fell off. Sad that criminal people get away with such crimes and conspiracies. I think it is my duty to inform the public about it. Free of charge!

You have a problem with their still being minute traces of atmosphere at that altitude? Do you have a y science to suggest this should not be the case or is it just your expert opinion?

And on the fuel opinion, I'm not sure if it did or didn't use fuel to make course corrections. Have you got a citation for this? And even if it didn't.  It's still got its reaction wheels. Also have you ever heard of launch windows and or why manoeuvre are conducted at set times? It's so it does not have to waste fuel on future wasteful  corrections.

You have a problem with their still being minute traces of atmosphere at that altitude? Do you have a y science to suggest this should not be the case or is it just your expert opinion?

And on the fuel opinion, I'm not sure if it did or didn't use fuel to make course corrections. Have you got a citation for this? And even if it didn't.  It's still got its reaction wheels. Also have you ever heard of launch windows and or why manoeuvre are conducted at set times? It's so it does not have to waste fuel on future wasteful  corrections.

Atmospheric drag at 303 000 m altitude causing problems to calculate speeds, etc. Sounds strange. I have never encountered such problems but its sounds science fiction.

Fuel - according to the link given above no fuel was used by Rosetta to adjust speed/course in order to encounter the fast moving planets at perfect times to enable gravity assist kicks!

Rosetta just bounced between the planets with no outside adjustments during 9 years by, e.g. the ESA tattoed clowns in pornoshirts looking after the show.

I will ask ESA again (for the 3rd time) on 5 January 2015 to provide the info about the kicks + confirmation that no fuel was used. I doubt they will reply of course, but we will see.

Fuel - according to the link given above no fuel was used by Rosetta to adjust speed/course in order to encounter the fast moving planets at perfect times to enable gravity assist kicks!

Rosetta just bounced between the planets with no outside adjustments during 9 years by, e.g. the ESA tattoed clowns in pornoshirts looking after the show.

I will ask ESA again (for the 3rd time) on 5 January 2015 to provide the info about the kicks + confirmation that no fuel was used. I doubt they will reply of course, but we will see.

Obviously, you know nothing about space flights and are too lazy to find the information.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Rosetta_spacecraft

May 10 — The most critical deep space maneuver was successfully executed. The four thrusters on board of Rosetta were fired for about 3.5 hours, and a velocity change (delta v) of 152.8 metre per second was imparted to the spacecraft.
May 16 — A planned "touch-up" deep space maneuver was successfully executed. A burn of just under 17 minutes was performed with high accuracy. Then Rosetta pointed its instruments again towards Comet LINEAR for observation.

Real hard job hewee.

Main propulsion comprises 24 paired bipropellant 10 N thrusters,[37] with four pairs of thrusters being used for delta-v burns. The spacecraft carried 1,719.1 kg (3,790 lb) of propellant at launch: 659.6 kg (1,454 lb) of monomethylhydrazine fuel and 1,059.5 kg (2,336 lb) of dinitrogen tetroxide oxidiser, contained in two 1,108-litre (244 imp gal; 293 US gal) grade 5 titanium alloy tanks and providing delta-v of at least 2,300 metres per second (7,500 ft/s) over the course of the mission. Propellant pressurisation is provided by two 68-litre (15 imp gal; 18 US gal) high-pressure helium tanks.[41]

Don't wee too much.

Quote from: Heiwa on January 03, 2015, 02:27:59 AM

Fuel - according to the link given above no fuel was used by Rosetta to adjust speed/course in order to encounter the fast moving planets at perfect times to enable gravity assist kicks!

Rosetta just bounced between the planets with no outside adjustments during 9 years by, e.g. the ESA tattoed clowns in pornoshirts looking after the show.

I will ask ESA again (for the 3rd time) on 5 January 2015 to provide the info about the kicks + confirmation that no fuel was used. I doubt they will reply of course, but we will see.

Obviously, you know nothing about space flights and are too lazy to find the information.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Rosetta_spacecraft

Quote

May 10 — The most critical deep space maneuver was successfully executed. The four thrusters on board of Rosetta were fired for about 3.5 hours, and a velocity change (delta v) of 152.8 metre per second was imparted to the spacecraft.
May 16 — A planned "touch-up" deep space maneuver was successfully executed. A burn of just under 17 minutes was performed with high accuracy. Then Rosetta pointed its instruments again towards Comet LINEAR for observation.

Quote from: Heiwa on January 03, 2015, 02:27:59 AM

Fuel - according to the link given above no fuel was used by Rosetta to adjust speed/course in order to encounter the fast moving planets at perfect times to enable gravity assist kicks!

Rosetta just bounced between the planets with no outside adjustments during 9 years by, e.g. the ESA tattoed clowns in pornoshirts looking after the show.

I will ask ESA again (for the 3rd time) on 5 January 2015 to provide the info about the kicks + confirmation that no fuel was used. I doubt they will reply of course, but we will see.

Obviously, you know nothing about space flights and are too lazy to find the information.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Rosetta_spacecraft

Quote

May 10 — The most critical deep space maneuver was successfully executed. The four thrusters on board of Rosetta were fired for about 3.5 hours, and a velocity change (delta v) of 152.8 metre per second was imparted to the spacecraft.
May 16 — A planned "touch-up" deep space maneuver was successfully executed. A burn of just under 17 minutes was performed with high accuracy. Then Rosetta pointed its instruments again towards Comet LINEAR for observation.

Bloody he'll heiwi that kind of blows your whole argument out of the water doesn't it?

And why on earth would you have any encounters with the atmosphere at that altitude?

Quote from: ausGeoff on January 03, 2015, 01:57:29 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on January 02, 2015, 08:20:43 AM

I have actually many visitors using their mobile phones, pads, whatever to admire my work and nobody complains. Did you soil your pants? Have a look!

No... you don't have "many" visitors who "admire" your sites. 

Sorry, you must have soiled your underwear down under - did it drop on your head? As webmaster, etc, of my popular site I know I had 511 happy visitors yesterday, i.e. none complained to me. Of course nothing compared with the last week September 2014 when I had > 15 000 visitors/week - due to the fact the it was 20 years since M/S Estonia was sunk in the Baltic caused by hull leakage/sabotage killing plenty people aboard and the Swedish government started a cover-up killing a few extra people ashore too, while suggesting the visor fell off. Sad that criminal people get away with such crimes and conspiracies. I think it is my duty to inform the public about it. Free of charge!

It's telling that my repeated exposure of Björkman's lies inevitably draw a childish response from the guy isn't it?  I've obviously struck a raw nerve with him LOL.  You can (if you want to waste some time!) read Björkman's own bogus report and conclusions HERE.

At any rate, Heiwa (the company) had no involvement whatsoever with the Estonia sinking and the subsequent investigation, and you'll not find one single mention of this supposed company in any of the published reports.

The inspection and reports were all carried out by a Norwegian company known as Rockwater A/S, and you can read (a relevant part of) their report HERE.

The official report by the Swedish National Maritime Administration can be checked out HERE.

You'll not that neither "Heiwa" or Anders Björkmsn's names appear in any of this documentation.  Why?  Simply because his alleged involvement with the MS Estonia disaster exists only in the guy's mind.  Put more simply; he's a liar and a fraud.

I am sure heywee will thank you for linking and increasing the number of hits to his site

Bloody he'll heiwi that kind of blows your whole argument out of the water doesn't it?

And why on earth would you have any encounters with the atmosphere at that altitude?

Not really. I describe the ESA nonsense pretty good at my popular website. You really have to study it to participate in the discussion.
Imagine that Rosetta performed four gravity assist kicks in 3D space 2004-2009 and didn't use any fuel to adjust speed, direction and location prior any of them. Rosetta went straight (actually in orbits around the Sun) from one gravity assist kick at one fast moving planet to the next encounter without any assistance or adjustments at all.
Four consequetive holes in one! Happens only in stupid SF novels for 10 years old.   

I am sure heywee will thank you for linking and increasing the number of hits to his site

LOL - noone takes this ausGeoff clown serious. I was quite happy with the 15000+ visitors last week September 2014 studying the Swedish government Estonia cover-up.
But let's face it. The Swedish government has won! Nobody in Sweden dares to question its findings about the M/S Estonia sinking - perfect ship, visor fell off, bad design, bad Master, etc. any longer. If you do it, you are in trouble.
My little contribution is just for historians when the archives are opened 2065! I am not in trouble because I demonstrated and proved the government lies already 1995/6 and survived it then.

First you say this......

Quote from: Pythagoras on January 02, 2015, 09:40:50 AM

Why would fog or mist be a problem for a space probe?
Why would position of the earth's orientation be a problem?

Note also that Rosetta didn't use any fuel at all to correct its speed, direction, position to carry out four gravity assist kicks.

Rosetta just flew around in space for 9 years and was kicked around the Sun between moving planets four times with no adjustments required at all. Magic! Only children believe such nonsense.

To which you get a reply of....

Quote from: Heiwa on January 03, 2015, 02:27:59 AM

Fuel - according to the link given above no fuel was used by Rosetta to adjust speed/course in order to encounter the fast moving planets at perfect times to enable gravity assist kicks!

Rosetta just bounced between the planets with no outside adjustments during 9 years by, e.g. the ESA tattoed clowns in pornoshirts looking after the show.

I will ask ESA again (for the 3rd time) on 5 January 2015 to provide the info about the kicks + confirmation that no fuel was used. I doubt they will reply of course, but we will see.

Obviously, you know nothing about space flights and are too lazy to find the information.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Rosetta_spacecraft

Quote

May 10 — The most critical deep space maneuver was successfully executed. The four thrusters on board of Rosetta were fired for about 3.5 hours, and a velocity change (delta v) of 152.8 metre per second was imparted to the spacecraft.
May 16 — A planned "touch-up" deep space maneuver was successfully executed. A burn of just under 17 minutes was performed with high accuracy. Then Rosetta pointed its instruments again towards Comet LINEAR for observation.

Do you not see the problem with your statement?

No matter how many times you repeat that BS heywee, we know for sure that you have no idea what you are talking about.

No matter how many times you repeat that BS heywee, we know for sure that you have no idea what you are talking about.

You are just jealous that I have a very popular web site visited by plenty people. Nobody visits this forum thread, where I (or the person writing this) am just wasting my time.