Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet

Quote from: Heiwa on December 19, 2014, 01:59:51 PM

Quote from: inquisitive on December 19, 2014, 01:17:01 PM

Any links to people who actually agree with you and have recognised qualifications?

Thanks for asking! My web page was just down loaded for 1 613 451st time and I receive plenty e-mails - most of them positive, etc. It seems I have a large following. One problem is MainStream Media, MSM. They never mention my good news.

I got into the good, true news business by looking into the M/S Estonia sinking in the Baltic 28 september 1994, reason being I assisted operating a large fleet of similar passenger ferries.

It was soon clear that three national authorities and their MSM were lying about everything about the sinking, the condition of the ship, responsibilities involved, etc. When I friendly pointed out all the errors and impossibilities and lies and deceptions of politicians, civil servants, journalists and a lot of spin doctors, I didn't become very popular among them. Only survivors and relatives of victims of the sinking liked me. I describe it on my web site. I was accused by stupid people of being a conspiracy theorist spreading rumours and lies of all kind. My mother became very unhappy. I didn't tell her that I was threatened to better shut up ... national security, etc, etc. People closer to the truth started to die suddenly, etc.

Luckily I live in fairly safe place with good friends around me so I continued to follow the Estonia scandal. I am just an observer with good knowledge about safety at sea and passenger ferry shipping.  I could not  abandon the survivors and relatives of victims that demanded truth. And there we are today 20 years later.

This space propaganda show is just a side line for me. People believe in space travel because MSM say it is true. I think I show that human space travel and similar (Rosetta) are impossible. It seems to upset many people. Like the atomic bomb lovers I upset pointing out that A- and H-bombs do not work. The A-bomb lovers are really upset that the military cannot wipe out Russia and kill 50 million people. I really feel sorry for such people.

So to answer Inquisitive's question, no websites or people that have recognized academic qualifications that link to your site or you as a source for valid scientific knowledge exist?

Question or what? It seems the FES forum linked to me. That's how I found FES forum. Google & Co seem to love me. Often I am #1 result for various searches. 70% of my visitors come from them. 29.99% comes via links published elsewhere or out of the blue. 0.01% comes from FES forum. I wonder why I waste my time with the flat earth nuts. Most of you seem to be crazy.

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on December 19, 2014, 02:08:42 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on December 19, 2014, 01:59:51 PM

Quote from: inquisitive on December 19, 2014, 01:17:01 PM

Any links to people who actually agree with you and have recognised qualifications?

Thanks for asking! My web page was just down loaded for 1 613 451st time and I receive plenty e-mails - most of them positive, etc. It seems I have a large following. One problem is MainStream Media, MSM. They never mention my good news.

I got into the good, true news business by looking into the M/S Estonia sinking in the Baltic 28 september 1994, reason being I assisted operating a large fleet of similar passenger ferries.

It was soon clear that three national authorities and their MSM were lying about everything about the sinking, the condition of the ship, responsibilities involved, etc. When I friendly pointed out all the errors and impossibilities and lies and deceptions of politicians, civil servants, journalists and a lot of spin doctors, I didn't become very popular among them. Only survivors and relatives of victims of the sinking liked me. I describe it on my web site. I was accused by stupid people of being a conspiracy theorist spreading rumours and lies of all kind. My mother became very unhappy. I didn't tell her that I was threatened to better shut up ... national security, etc, etc. People closer to the truth started to die suddenly, etc.

Luckily I live in fairly safe place with good friends around me so I continued to follow the Estonia scandal. I am just an observer with good knowledge about safety at sea and passenger ferry shipping.  I could not  abandon the survivors and relatives of victims that demanded truth. And there we are today 20 years later.

This space propaganda show is just a side line for me. People believe in space travel because MSM say it is true. I think I show that human space travel and similar (Rosetta) are impossible. It seems to upset many people. Like the atomic bomb lovers I upset pointing out that A- and H-bombs do not work. The A-bomb lovers are really upset that the military cannot wipe out Russia and kill 50 million people. I really feel sorry for such people.

So to answer Inquisitive's question, no websites or people that have recognized academic qualifications that link to your site or you as a source for valid scientific knowledge exist?

Question or what? It seems the FES forum linked to me. That's how I found FES forum. Google & Co seem to love me. Often I am #1 result for various searches. 70% of my visitors come from them. 29.99% comes via links published elsewhere or out of the blue. 0.01% comes from FES forum. I wonder why I waste my time with the flat earth nuts. Most of you seem to be crazy.

Well technically what they asked was, do you have any links to any people with academic credentials (published scientists I would guess he means) that agree with your views.

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on December 19, 2014, 02:08:42 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on December 19, 2014, 01:59:51 PM

Quote from: inquisitive on December 19, 2014, 01:17:01 PM

Any links to people who actually agree with you and have recognised qualifications?

Thanks for asking! My web page was just down loaded for 1 613 451st time and I receive plenty e-mails - most of them positive, etc. It seems I have a large following. One problem is MainStream Media, MSM. They never mention my good news.

I got into the good, true news business by looking into the M/S Estonia sinking in the Baltic 28 september 1994, reason being I assisted operating a large fleet of similar passenger ferries.

It was soon clear that three national authorities and their MSM were lying about everything about the sinking, the condition of the ship, responsibilities involved, etc. When I friendly pointed out all the errors and impossibilities and lies and deceptions of politicians, civil servants, journalists and a lot of spin doctors, I didn't become very popular among them. Only survivors and relatives of victims of the sinking liked me. I describe it on my web site. I was accused by stupid people of being a conspiracy theorist spreading rumours and lies of all kind. My mother became very unhappy. I didn't tell her that I was threatened to better shut up ... national security, etc, etc. People closer to the truth started to die suddenly, etc.

Luckily I live in fairly safe place with good friends around me so I continued to follow the Estonia scandal. I am just an observer with good knowledge about safety at sea and passenger ferry shipping.  I could not  abandon the survivors and relatives of victims that demanded truth. And there we are today 20 years later.

This space propaganda show is just a side line for me. People believe in space travel because MSM say it is true. I think I show that human space travel and similar (Rosetta) are impossible. It seems to upset many people. Like the atomic bomb lovers I upset pointing out that A- and H-bombs do not work. The A-bomb lovers are really upset that the military cannot wipe out Russia and kill 50 million people. I really feel sorry for such people.

So to answer Inquisitive's question, no websites or people that have recognized academic qualifications that link to your site or you as a source for valid scientific knowledge exist?

Question or what? It seems the FES forum linked to me. That's how I found FES forum. Google & Co seem to love me. Often I am #1 result for various searches. 70% of my visitors come from them. 29.99% comes via links published elsewhere or out of the blue. 0.01% comes from FES forum. I wonder why I waste my time with the flat earth nuts. Most of you seem to be crazy.

You waste your time with us because a lot of FE believers don't believe space travel is possible. Where else are you going to find this many Apollo deniers?

Quote from: Heiwa on December 19, 2014, 02:45:28 PM

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on December 19, 2014, 02:08:42 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on December 19, 2014, 01:59:51 PM

Quote from: inquisitive on December 19, 2014, 01:17:01 PM

Any links to people who actually agree with you and have recognised qualifications?

Thanks for asking! My web page was just down loaded for 1 613 451st time and I receive plenty e-mails - most of them positive, etc. It seems I have a large following. One problem is MainStream Media, MSM. They never mention my good news.

I got into the good, true news business by looking into the M/S Estonia sinking in the Baltic 28 september 1994, reason being I assisted operating a large fleet of similar passenger ferries.

It was soon clear that three national authorities and their MSM were lying about everything about the sinking, the condition of the ship, responsibilities involved, etc. When I friendly pointed out all the errors and impossibilities and lies and deceptions of politicians, civil servants, journalists and a lot of spin doctors, I didn't become very popular among them. Only survivors and relatives of victims of the sinking liked me. I describe it on my web site. I was accused by stupid people of being a conspiracy theorist spreading rumours and lies of all kind. My mother became very unhappy. I didn't tell her that I was threatened to better shut up ... national security, etc, etc. People closer to the truth started to die suddenly, etc.

Luckily I live in fairly safe place with good friends around me so I continued to follow the Estonia scandal. I am just an observer with good knowledge about safety at sea and passenger ferry shipping.  I could not  abandon the survivors and relatives of victims that demanded truth. And there we are today 20 years later.

This space propaganda show is just a side line for me. People believe in space travel because MSM say it is true. I think I show that human space travel and similar (Rosetta) are impossible. It seems to upset many people. Like the atomic bomb lovers I upset pointing out that A- and H-bombs do not work. The A-bomb lovers are really upset that the military cannot wipe out Russia and kill 50 million people. I really feel sorry for such people.

So to answer Inquisitive's question, no websites or people that have recognized academic qualifications that link to your site or you as a source for valid scientific knowledge exist?

Question or what? It seems the FES forum linked to me. That's how I found FES forum. Google & Co seem to love me. Often I am #1 result for various searches. 70% of my visitors come from them. 29.99% comes via links published elsewhere or out of the blue. 0.01% comes from FES forum. I wonder why I waste my time with the flat earth nuts. Most of you seem to be crazy.

You waste your time with us because a lot of FE believers don't believe space travel is possible. Where else are you going to find this many Apollo deniers?

Thanks. No waste of time of my side. Side? I live on a flat side! Nice view of the Mediterranean Sea from my office looking East. Looks flat! View of the flat mountain face in the other direction. Looks like a flat wall. Everything looks flat from my comfortable penthouse. Which is flat. Some people call it a flat. Which it is. Everything is smooth and level. Evidently Earth is flat wherever we are on it. That it could also be a globe flying around Sun in space at 28 900 m/s velocity is another matter. I like intelligent discussions. Regrettably I didn't find it here. Sayonara!

I like intelligent discussions. Regrettably I didn't find it here.

Interesting.  Some of us have the same feelings about you and your "popular web site".

Quote from: hoppy on December 19, 2014, 03:24:28 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on December 19, 2014, 02:45:28 PM

Quote from: Lemmiwinks on December 19, 2014, 02:08:42 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on December 19, 2014, 01:59:51 PM

Quote from: inquisitive on December 19, 2014, 01:17:01 PM

Any links to people who actually agree with you and have recognised qualifications?

Thanks for asking! My web page was just down loaded for 1 613 451st time and I receive plenty e-mails - most of them positive, etc. It seems I have a large following. One problem is MainStream Media, MSM. They never mention my good news.

I got into the good, true news business by looking into the M/S Estonia sinking in the Baltic 28 september 1994, reason being I assisted operating a large fleet of similar passenger ferries.

It was soon clear that three national authorities and their MSM were lying about everything about the sinking, the condition of the ship, responsibilities involved, etc. When I friendly pointed out all the errors and impossibilities and lies and deceptions of politicians, civil servants, journalists and a lot of spin doctors, I didn't become very popular among them. Only survivors and relatives of victims of the sinking liked me. I describe it on my web site. I was accused by stupid people of being a conspiracy theorist spreading rumours and lies of all kind. My mother became very unhappy. I didn't tell her that I was threatened to better shut up ... national security, etc, etc. People closer to the truth started to die suddenly, etc.

Luckily I live in fairly safe place with good friends around me so I continued to follow the Estonia scandal. I am just an observer with good knowledge about safety at sea and passenger ferry shipping.  I could not  abandon the survivors and relatives of victims that demanded truth. And there we are today 20 years later.

This space propaganda show is just a side line for me. People believe in space travel because MSM say it is true. I think I show that human space travel and similar (Rosetta) are impossible. It seems to upset many people. Like the atomic bomb lovers I upset pointing out that A- and H-bombs do not work. The A-bomb lovers are really upset that the military cannot wipe out Russia and kill 50 million people. I really feel sorry for such people.

So to answer Inquisitive's question, no websites or people that have recognized academic qualifications that link to your site or you as a source for valid scientific knowledge exist?

Question or what? It seems the FES forum linked to me. That's how I found FES forum. Google & Co seem to love me. Often I am #1 result for various searches. 70% of my visitors come from them. 29.99% comes via links published elsewhere or out of the blue. 0.01% comes from FES forum. I wonder why I waste my time with the flat earth nuts. Most of you seem to be crazy.

You waste your time with us because a lot of FE believers don't believe space travel is possible. Where else are you going to find this many Apollo deniers?

Thanks. No waste of time of my side. Side? I live on a flat side! Nice view of the Mediterranean Sea from my office looking East. Looks flat! View of the flat mountain face in the other direction. Looks like a flat wall. Everything looks flat from my comfortable penthouse. Which is flat. Some people call it a flat. Which it is. Everything is smooth and level. Evidently Earth is flat wherever we are on it. That it could also be a globe flying around Sun in space at 28 900 m/s velocity is another matter. I like intelligent discussions. Regrettably I didn't find it here. Sayonara!

Sense you live next to an ocean why don't you try to spot another continent.  Try using a really powerful telescope.  Most flat earthers think you can't see the continent because light can't travel infinitely through air, but you can see things like stars, the moon, and the sun that are WAY further away then the closest continent yet you can see them as they rise and set at the horizon.  It makes sense that it doesn't look round because Earth is MASSIVE.

My web page was just down loaded for 1 613 451st time and I receive plenty e-mails - most of them positive, etc.

LOL... I have to laugh at this rather sad "boast" by poor old Anders:  His site has a bounce rate of 75%, and an average visit time of 1 minute 54 seconds.  And every visitor visits his site only once on average LOL.   His site has a global ranking of only 2,237,489 whereas even my local paper has a global ranking of 2,368.

And he obviously doesn't understand that many of those hits are from people—like me—simply checking out his bullshit because of links from other skeptics.

So... people visit his site once for less than 2 minutes, and he's bragging about it.  What a clown.   

It seems the gravity assist kick sect members had problems after my publishing
http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm#JTC . I really feel sorry for any people calling themselves astrophysicians beliving that small objects can 180° swing around big planets in space and increase their speeds almost 3X at the same time.
Compared with the flat earth suggestion, the gravity assist kick is really unbelievable but there are clowns that believe it.

It seems the gravity assist kick sect members had problems after my publishing
http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm#JTC . I really feel sorry for any people calling themselves astrophysicians believing that small objects can 180° swing around big planets in space and increase their speeds almost 3X at the same time.
Compared with the flat earth suggestion, the gravity assist kick is really unbelievable but there are clowns that believe it.

Poor old Anders is still posting his loony-tunes notions I see.  Despite criticising them, he seems to think that guys who research space are called "astrophysicians" rather than the correct astrophysicists.

This is a classic example of how little this boat mechanic knows of true science LOL.  A physician is actually a medical doctor, and like Anders, knows virtually nothing about astrophysics.

Boat mechanics play with their rusty nuts in the bilge.

Quote from: Heiwa on December 30, 2014, 12:48:42 AM

It seems the gravity assist kick sect members had problems after my publishing
http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm#JTC . I really feel sorry for any people calling themselves astrophysicians believing that small objects can 180° swing around big planets in space and increase their speeds almost 3X at the same time.
Compared with the flat earth suggestion, the gravity assist kick is really unbelievable but there are clowns that believe it.

Poor old Anders is still posting his loony-tunes notions I see.  Despite criticising them, he seems to think that guys who research space are called "astrophysicians" rather than the correct astrophysicists.

This is a classic example of how little this boat mechanic knows of true science LOL.  A physician is actually a medical doctor, and like Anders, knows virtually nothing about astrophysics.

Hopefully there are some space medical doctors around that do not recommend space travel. Of course plenty space engineers recommend gravity assist kicks to speed up and change direction of the trip but an eight minutes 180° space turn at 12 g is not recommended. You ausGeoff will be ripped apart by it.
Luckily no space gravity assist kicks are physically possible as explained by me in my popular article.
If you try to perform a space gravity assist kick you will find that you burn up passing any atmosphere or simply just crash on the planet concerned. Gravity you know! Serious biz.

More great fun not in space but in interface water/air on Earth is http://heiwaco.com/news811.htm and a wreck full of water at Genoa, Italy. The local mafia there tells anybody that it can be scrapped there ... as long as you pay and shut up. Only problem is that the wreck is full of water.

And the water cannot be pumped out!

But maybe ausGeoff knows better as usual?

Why do you keep in trying to plug you "popular website" ?

Why do you keep in trying to plug you "popular website" ?

Because it is more interesting than the drivel you spew.

Quote from: Pythagoras on December 30, 2014, 06:01:57 AM

Why do you keep in trying to plug you "popular website" ?

Because it is more interesting than the drivel you spew.

Was the personal attack really needed?

Why do you keep in trying to plug you "popular website" ?

Topic is Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet and to arrive at the comet little Rosetta has according ESA performed four gravity assist kicks, i.e has been re-directed and accelerated by close enclosures with planets Earth 3X and Mars 1X. As I explain on my web site, which has about 500 visitors/day, i.e. is popular, a gravity assist kick in space is not possible. I can explain/copy/paste it here, but it is easier to link to the original, don't you agree?

I have evidently asked ESA twice for details of these gravity assist kicks, but ESA has not replied. Reason is probably that ESA cannot explain them. What do you think? Can you explain gravity assist kicks?

Why does anyone need to provide you with details.  The maths should be easy for you. What more details do you need?

Why does anyone need to provide you with details.  The maths should be easy for you. What more details do you need?

The assumptions behind the gravity assist kicks are wrong so the maths doesn't matter. It is assumed that, when a very heavy object - a planet - encounters a very light object - a space craft - in space, that the heavy object kicks off the light object at increased speed and in another direction in space by ... what? Dynamics? Magic?

I would expect that the gravity force of the heavy object would attract the light object towards the center of gravity of the planet and the light object would just crash on the planet or burn up in the atmosphere of the planet, if it exists. This happens daily to meteorites being attracted by Earth. They all burn up in the atmosphere. You can see the result on the Moon, where objects have crashed and produced craters, etc.

According ESA and other pseudoscientific agencies - NASA! - planet Earth with speed U can swing around 180° any little object approaching Earth head on at speed v with a little offset to avoid crash and accelerate the little object during 8 minutes, so it becomes speed v + 2U ... in the opposite direction! Nonsense of course. The g-forces on the little object during the 180° turn is of the order 12-13 g, which will rip it apart, but before it happens, the little object is re-directed straight on the planet and - CRASH!

ESA performed three gravity assist kicks close to Earth with Rosetta but didn't tell us and when you ask they don't get the dates right. Wouldn't it have been wonderful to see Rosetta buzzing by planet Earth changing direction and increasing its speed?

Rosetta has cameras aboard and could have sent us pictures of the approach of and going away from Earth (and the Moon) and Mars, etc, etc. But ESA didn't ask Rosetta to send any pictures of Earth/Moon. We have only got pictures of the 67P comet many years later but they are just computer generated images by Babelsberg, Potsdam, Germany.

And what info Did you require from ESA exactly?

And what info Did you require from ESA exactly?

Sent twice to ESA:

"Rosetta gravity assist kicks


Dear Madame/Sir,

I would be much obliged to receive information about subject, i.e. the exact details of the four gravity assist kicks into new orbits around the Sun to get Rosetta away from Earth and to a rendez-vous with Mars, back to more rendez-vous with Earth twice and then off to the 67P comet. 

The data is apparently stored somewhere for independent review - pls provide a link. The details are straight headings (°)/velocities (m/s) of Rosetta before/after kicks and altitudes (m) of kicks above the planets and time(s) and dates of the kicks.

Thanks for your cooperation.

Anders Björkman

Heiwa Co - http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm#ROS "

 
Should not be difficult to reply to?

He wanted to learn about hyperbolic orbits but he had one hand in his pants and had a struggle with the phone.

And out of interest who was this addressed to?

And out of interest who was this addressed to?

ESA of course! The e-mail address is  [email protected]

I'd imagen a email that generic to esa would get a lot of emails. I assumed you were directing the email at a specific department. I'd imagen they clicked on the link at the bottom and got the security warning and left it at that.

I'd imagen a email that generic to esa would get a lot of emails. I assumed you were directing the email at a specific department. I'd imagen they clicked on the link at the bottom and got the security warning and left it at that.

It is very easy to contact ESA: http://www.esa.int/Services/Contacts


•    CONTACTS
Before contacting us with an enquiry, please have a look at our FAQs to see if your question has already been answered.
Alternatively, if your request is about education, you can write to: education @ esa.int
For media requests, write to: media @ esa.int
For employment opportunities or training at ESA, write to: contact.human.resources @ esa.int
For conference enquiries, write to: esa.conference.bureau @ esa.int
To order books, reports or other products, write to: esapub @ esa.int
For enquiries with regard to images, write to: spaceinimages @ esa.int
For enquiries with regard to video distribution, write to: spaceinvideos @ esa.int 

So I sent a polite e-mail twice to  media @ esa.int and you assume they klicked on the link, etc. Sorry, according my cookies, etc, ESA never clicked on it.

Security warning! Plenty, >500 people klick daily on the link to my friendly web site and do not receive any security warnings. Are you sick? Do you belong to the ESA gravity assist sect? Then you need medical or psychic assistance.

I assume ESA cannot reply and therefore just ignore to reply. The simple solution.

I will send the email to ESA again week 1, 2015. Maybe they are all on vaccation? 

I went through the 113 pages of a thread in which Heiwa participated and got banned: http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=269.0, where I found this in page 78:

As I reported earlier, he was briefly on a UK based astronomy forum. He was banned after about 30 minutes. It appears that his MO is to watch for new hits on his site and them to spam where the hit came from, if possible. One of the members over there raised an interesting suggestion.....the website's only purpose is as a revenue generator ( http://sourcemetro.com/heiwaco.tripod.com reports it as generating $700 per day).

Interesting idea...which would certainly through another angle on Bjorkman's pig-headedness...he is not interested in learning...in fact the more outrageous his BS the better as it generates more hits on his site.

BTW, I'm still waiting for a definitive answer to my initial question Heiwa. Perhaps you've already admitted your equation is dead wrong ?

I went through the 113 pages of a thread in which Heiwa participated and got banned: http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=269.0, where I found this in page 78:

Quote

As I reported earlier, he was briefly on a UK based astronomy forum. He was banned after about 30 minutes. It appears that his MO is to watch for new hits on his site and them to spam where the hit came from, if possible. One of the members over there raised an interesting suggestion.....the website's only purpose is as a revenue generator ( http://sourcemetro.com/heiwaco.tripod.com reports it as generating $700 per day).

Interesting idea...which would certainly through another angle on Bjorkman's pig-headedness...he is not interested in learning...in fact the more outrageous his BS the better as it generates more hits on his site.

Thanks for old memories. The topic was my €1 000 000:- Challenge, which was discussed from 27 Dec. 2012 to 28 Feb. 2014 in 1681 posts of which 117 were mine until I was BANNED.
If you could present how a safe manned space trip to/from the Moon is done, you'd win €1M! Nobody managed it! Nobody managed to copy/paste the NASA data how to go to the Moon and fly back. Reason?
That data does not exist. The data that exists is just old, stupid fanatasies. Like the Rosetta trip info. 
So the Apollohoax forum admin shit/wetted their pants and BANNED me. Served them right. They stank.

Do I earn $700/day with my web site? Not really. It, the site, costs me $4.95 per months that I pay the ISP. But it is good PR for me. Unknown idiots call me a conspiracy theorist, etc, while I am just a friendly, intelligent, good looking, sporty guy providing good services of safety at sea and similar. Of course, plenty people are jealous that I worked and saw the world and stayed at the best hotels everywhere, etc, etc, fixing old ships  and had fun but they could never have done it themselves. It was and is a hard job. But fun! And I make plenty money (and pay plenty taxes). Anything wrong with it?

BTW, I'm still waiting for a definitive answer to my initial question Heiwa. Perhaps you've already admitted your equation is dead wrong ?

I am so sorry keeping you waiting. What was the question? Was it about topic Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet? Or the size of my shoes? If the latter, start a new thread about it.

Quote from: Antonio on December 30, 2014, 08:42:12 AM

BTW, I'm still waiting for a definitive answer to my initial question Heiwa. Perhaps you've already admitted your equation is dead wrong ?

I am so sorry keeping you waiting. What was the question? Was it about topic Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet? Or the size of my shoes? If the latter, start a new thread about it.

You know perfectly what is the question, and you know you cannot answer properly to it.
Your desperate attempts to ignore this fact are now obvious.
For your convenience, I put it here again : What would be the final speed and energy of a rocket starting at 7000 m/s, weighting 1000 kg, including  500 kg of fuel, burning it with an ejection speed of 4500 m/s ?.
You gave the correct answer using the Tsiolkovski equation,  claiming that  your "energetic" formula gave the result.
Prove it here and now, or admit your defeat: give your fully expanded formula. No vague answers like

Pls do it yourself

I have done the maths in my head as usual - one result 5362, one 5256

Calculate the kinetic energy of the fuel mass 500 kg after it has been ejected from the spacecraft as hot gas at velocity 4500 m/s

I used an exhaust velocity of 2363 m/s = more realistic.

You are now cornered, we are all awaiting your definition for the popular "Heiwa Rocket equation".