Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet

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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #270 on: November 22, 2014, 05:30:38 AM »

You claim this but never support it with evidence. Even on your popular website. You make a lot of assertions but never show your reasoning in detail. This is what I want to see.
All details you want to see about my evidence about impossible space travel are on my web site. Space travel is not possible. You cannot ever stop in or return from space alive. We can only send satellites one way away into space. That's not travel.
I have since many years offered anyone proving me wrong €1 000 000:- at http://heiwaco.com/chall.htm , but nobody has collected.

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Why won't you support your claims?  It has been asked repeatedly and all you do is promote your website.
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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #271 on: November 22, 2014, 05:52:34 AM »

You claim this but never support it with evidence. Even on your popular website. You make a lot of assertions but never show your reasoning in detail. This is what I want to see.
All details you want to see about my evidence about impossible space travel are on my web site. Space travel is not possible. You cannot ever stop in or return from space alive. We can only send satellites one way away into space. That's not travel.
I have since many years offered anyone proving me wrong €1 000 000:- at http://heiwaco.com/chall.htm , but nobody has collected.

Why?

Because I am right? Check yourself!

Why won't you support your claims?  It has been asked repeatedly and all you do is promote your website.
He has supported his claims at least once on his website. Why do you all act like he has no evidence?
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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #272 on: November 22, 2014, 06:05:16 AM »

You claim this but never support it with evidence. Even on your popular website. You make a lot of assertions but never show your reasoning in detail. This is what I want to see.
All details you want to see about my evidence about impossible space travel are on my web site. Space travel is not possible. You cannot ever stop in or return from space alive. We can only send satellites one way away into space. That's not travel.
I have since many years offered anyone proving me wrong €1 000 000:- at http://heiwaco.com/chall.htm , but nobody has collected.

Why?

Because I am right? Check yourself!

Why won't you support your claims?  It has been asked repeatedly and all you do is promote your website.
He has supported his claims at least once on his website. Why do you all act like he has no evidence?

Well if you are so sure of that then copy the relevant part of it and paste it here.

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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #273 on: November 22, 2014, 07:28:14 AM »
If you read my article at my web page
You should really stop that crap.  Nobody wants to visit that abomination of a site and wade through your endless droning.

If you have a argument to make, then make it here.
My reasoning about the Rosetta hoax is quite lengthy and that's why I present it on my popular web site. Regardless, it would appear from the ESA flight plan that planet Earth was in a perfect location 11 or 13 November 2009 to launch Rosetta directly towards the orbit of the comet, so the whole show with a launch 2 or 3 March 2004 and then being kicked around like a billiard ball seems bad science fiction.
I evidently know both plans are impossible. You cannot send a spacecraft away from the orbit of Earth and Earth itself to enter another orbit of another planet or comet because in order to change speed and direction in space, you need energy and you cannot carry that energy/fuel with you. Just a trip to Mars is impossible for that reason.
People that believe in space travel are really brainwashed by too much space travel propaganda.
More empty hand waving.  Bring some numbers, then we can debate.
OK! € 1 000 000:- ! Collect it at http://heiwaco.com/chall.htm .

Then we can debate.
More hand waving.  Bring some numbers, not imaginary money.
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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #274 on: November 22, 2014, 08:20:24 AM »
If you read my article at my web page
You should really stop that crap.  Nobody wants to visit that abomination of a site and wade through your endless droning.

If you have a argument to make, then make it here.
My reasoning about the Rosetta hoax is quite lengthy and that's why I present it on my popular web site. Regardless, it would appear from the ESA flight plan that planet Earth was in a perfect location 11 or 13 November 2009 to launch Rosetta directly towards the orbit of the comet, so the whole show with a launch 2 or 3 March 2004 and then being kicked around like a billiard ball seems bad science fiction.
I evidently know both plans are impossible. You cannot send a spacecraft away from the orbit of Earth and Earth itself to enter another orbit of another planet or comet because in order to change speed and direction in space, you need energy and you cannot carry that energy/fuel with you. Just a trip to Mars is impossible for that reason.
People that believe in space travel are really brainwashed by too much space travel propaganda.
More empty hand waving.  Bring some numbers, then we can debate.
OK! € 1 000 000:- ! Collect it at http://heiwaco.com/chall.htm .

Then we can debate.
More hand waving.  Bring some numbers, not imaginary money.
He has posted hundreds of numbers for you to dispute. Who is being lazy here?
He has also put his money and reputation at stake, which is much more than you have done.
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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #275 on: November 22, 2014, 08:24:21 AM »
But his numbers are insubstantial so who cares how many of them he posts?

It is also really funny that you just accept that he has the money and has put it on the line. Seems like you are acting a sheeple at his feet because you believe in what he espouses. You know Anders thinks the Earth is round right?
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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #276 on: November 22, 2014, 08:54:07 AM »
You guys are easily fooled, your brains are impervious to what Heiwa is saying.
And for which I'm eternally grateful.  Absorbing anything at all from Anders Bjorkman's site would be tantamount to killing of 20 billion brain cells in one fell swoop LOL.

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Plus you are assholes about it.

Spoken by a guy who obviously recognises an arsehole when he sees it.  And I'm guessing he's seen plenty.   ;D


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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #277 on: December 04, 2014, 04:46:02 PM »
If you read my article at my web page
You should really stop that crap.  Nobody wants to visit that abomination of a site and wade through your endless droning.

If you have a argument to make, then make it here.
My reasoning about the Rosetta hoax is quite lengthy and that's why I present it on my popular web site. Regardless, it would appear from the ESA flight plan that planet Earth was in a perfect location 11 or 13 November 2009 to launch Rosetta directly towards the orbit of the comet, so the whole show with a launch 2 or 3 March 2004 and then being kicked around like a billiard ball seems bad science fiction.
I evidently know both plans are impossible. You cannot send a spacecraft away from the orbit of Earth and Earth itself to enter another orbit of another planet or comet because in order to change speed and direction in space, you need energy and you cannot carry that energy/fuel with you. Just a trip to Mars is impossible for that reason.
People that believe in space travel are really brainwashed by too much space travel propaganda.
More empty hand waving.  Bring some numbers, then we can debate.
OK! € 1 000 000:- ! Collect it at http://heiwaco.com/chall.htm .

Then we can debate.
More hand waving.  Bring some numbers, not imaginary money.
He has posted hundreds of numbers for you to dispute. Who is being lazy here?
He has also put his money and reputation at stake, which is much more than you have done.

We are specifically asking for one set of numbers that he uses to prove that Rosetta could never make the orbit.

If he is such the expert and us such the idiots, then he would gladly put them right here. Instead of trying to increase his worthless sites hits.
I have 13 [academic qualifications] actually. I'll leave it up to you to guess which, or simply call me a  liar. Either is fine.

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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #278 on: December 04, 2014, 06:37:39 PM »
I evidently know both plans are impossible. You cannot send a spacecraft away from the orbit of Earth and Earth itself to enter another orbit of another planet or comet because in order to change speed and direction in space, you need energy and you cannot carry that energy/fuel with you.

What do you mean you can't carry fuel with you? That's what spacecraft do... they carry fuel with them to propel them into different orbits. You're not making much sense...
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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #279 on: December 04, 2014, 11:34:34 PM »
Nothing to see here, guys. Just some armchair scientist who keeps talking smack and actually thinks he's smarter than hundreds of physicists, mathematicians and engineers.

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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #280 on: December 05, 2014, 03:05:58 PM »
Nothing to see here, guys. Just some armchair scientist who keeps talking smack and actually thinks he's smarter than hundreds of physicists, mathematicians and engineers.

Great. Another believer. Feel free to convince us that this shambolic fiasco was actually a serious scientific accomplishment.
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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #281 on: December 05, 2014, 04:12:52 PM »
Nothing to see here, guys. Just some armchair scientist who keeps talking smack and actually thinks he's smarter than hundreds of physicists, mathematicians and engineers.

Great. Another believer. Feel free to convince us that this shambolic fiasco was actually a serious scientific accomplishment.

If it happened, then it was more of an engineering accomplishment. I am not sure why you would classify it as a "shambolic fiasco". We're you just trying to sound like Oscar Wilde or something?
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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #282 on: December 06, 2014, 05:55:14 PM »
Nothing to see here, guys. Just some armchair scientist who keeps talking smack and actually thinks he's smarter than hundreds of physicists, mathematicians and engineers.

Great. Another believer. Feel free to convince us that this shambolic fiasco was actually a serious scientific accomplishment.

If it happened, then it was more of an engineering accomplishment. I am not sure why you would classify it as a "shambolic fiasco". We're you just trying to sound like Oscar Wilde or something?

Engineering is not part of the sciences now?  Do you even know what science or engineering is? 

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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #283 on: December 06, 2014, 10:33:28 PM »
Nothing to see here, guys. Just some armchair scientist who keeps talking smack and actually thinks he's smarter than hundreds of physicists, mathematicians and engineers.

Great. Another believer. Feel free to convince us that this shambolic fiasco was actually a serious scientific accomplishment.

If it happened, then it was more of an engineering accomplishment. I am not sure why you would classify it as a "shambolic fiasco". We're you just trying to sound like Oscar Wilde or something?

Engineering is not part of the sciences now?  Do you even know what science or engineering is?
"Engineers are not scientists". Search for it on here. Do you think they are the same?
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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #284 on: December 07, 2014, 01:27:29 AM »
Nothing to see here, guys. Just some armchair scientist who keeps talking smack and actually thinks he's smarter than hundreds of physicists, mathematicians and engineers.

Great. Another believer. Feel free to convince us that this shambolic fiasco was actually a serious scientific accomplishment.

If it happened, then it was more of an engineering accomplishment. I am not sure why you would classify it as a "shambolic fiasco". We're you just trying to sound like Oscar Wilde or something?

Engineering is not part of the sciences now?  Do you even know what science or engineering is?
"Engineers are not scientists". Search for it on here. Do you think they are the same?

Do you not realize that engineers have the word "science" in their degree tittle? 

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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #285 on: December 07, 2014, 02:53:21 AM »
Nothing to see here, guys. Just some armchair scientist who keeps talking smack and actually thinks he's smarter than hundreds of physicists, mathematicians and engineers.

Great. Another believer. Feel free to convince us that this shambolic fiasco was actually a serious scientific accomplishment.
Feel free to show some evidence of the conspiracy.  Any evidence.
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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #286 on: December 07, 2014, 08:14:38 AM »
Nothing to see here, guys. Just some armchair scientist who keeps talking smack and actually thinks he's smarter than hundreds of physicists, mathematicians and engineers.

Great. Another believer. Feel free to convince us that this shambolic fiasco was actually a serious scientific accomplishment.

If it happened, then it was more of an engineering accomplishment. I am not sure why you would classify it as a "shambolic fiasco". We're you just trying to sound like Oscar Wilde or something?

Engineering is not part of the sciences now?  Do you even know what science or engineering is?
"Engineers are not scientists". Search for it on here. Do you think they are the same?

Do you not realize that engineers have the word "science" in their degree tittle?
Yes, BS, bachelor of science. Where did I say otherwise?
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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #287 on: December 07, 2014, 09:02:51 AM »
Nothing to see here, guys. Just some armchair scientist who keeps talking smack and actually thinks he's smarter than hundreds of physicists, mathematicians and engineers.

Great. Another believer. Feel free to convince us that this shambolic fiasco was actually a serious scientific accomplishment.

If it happened, then it was more of an engineering accomplishment. I am not sure why you would classify it as a "shambolic fiasco". We're you just trying to sound like Oscar Wilde or something?

Engineering is not part of the sciences now?  Do you even know what science or engineering is?
"Engineers are not scientists". Search for it on here. Do you think they are the same?

Do you not realize that engineers have the word "science" in their degree tittle?
Do you not realize that scientists and engineers have different methodologies and goals?
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #288 on: December 07, 2014, 03:14:48 PM »
Nothing to see here, guys. Just some armchair scientist who keeps talking smack and actually thinks he's smarter than hundreds of physicists, mathematicians and engineers.

Great. Another believer. Feel free to convince us that this shambolic fiasco was actually a serious scientific accomplishment.

If it happened, then it was more of an engineering accomplishment. I am not sure why you would classify it as a "shambolic fiasco". We're you just trying to sound like Oscar Wilde or something?

Engineering is not part of the sciences now?  Do you even know what science or engineering is?
"Engineers are not scientists". Search for it on here. Do you think they are the same?

Do you not realize that engineers have the word "science" in their degree tittle?
There are now BEng and MEng degrees.

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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #289 on: December 07, 2014, 04:26:45 PM »
Engineering is not part of the sciences now?  Do you even know what science or engineering is?
Do you?
http://spectrum.ieee.org/at-work/tech-careers/engineering-is-not-science
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #290 on: December 07, 2014, 05:26:29 PM »
Nothing to see here, guys. Just some armchair scientist who keeps talking smack and actually thinks he's smarter than hundreds of physicists, mathematicians and engineers.

Great. Another believer. Feel free to convince us that this shambolic fiasco was actually a serious scientific accomplishment.

If it happened, then it was more of an engineering accomplishment. I am not sure why you would classify it as a "shambolic fiasco". We're you just trying to sound like Oscar Wilde or something?

Engineering is not part of the sciences now?  Do you even know what science or engineering is?

Yawn.
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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #291 on: December 08, 2014, 01:31:49 AM »
Do you not realize that engineers have the word "science" in their degree tittle?
I'm sure that's just some particular group of 'engineers'. Did you have science tattooed on your tittle or how did it end up there?

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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #292 on: December 08, 2014, 02:49:05 AM »
Do you not realize that engineers have the word "science" in their degree tittle?
I'm sure that's just some particular group of 'engineers'. Did you have science tattooed on your tittle or how did it end up there?
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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #293 on: December 08, 2014, 05:47:54 AM »


We are specifically asking for one set of numbers that he uses to prove that Rosetta could never make the orbit.

If he is such the expert and us such the idiots, then he would gladly put them right here. Instead of trying to increase his worthless sites hits.

Sorry to keep you waiting but I was busy following the NASA launch of its light weight 8.5 ton Orion spacecraft/capsule into space 5 December 2014. It splashed down in the Pacific Ocean, about 600 miles south of San Diego, CA, after two orbits around Earth and a re-entry the same day!

As re-entries are, IMO, impossible, the Orion was just another magic trick of NASA to keep the Rosetta illusion alive.

I have asked Mr Brandi K. Dean (JSC-AD931)" <[email protected]> of NASA about a log of the 5 December Orion flight with speed (m/s), course (°) (horizontally), position (lat/long on Earth below), altitude (m) - say every 5 or 10 minutes - from start to splashdown to include in my popular web page http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm , but Mr Dean has replied:

We can't provide that information because it would reveal information that ULA considers proprietary for the Delta V.

It is clear that NASA cannot provide any evidence that the Orion ever flew anywhere in space above Earth.
The NASA web pages about the Orion are really poor and the only evidences of any trip are fake footage and cartoons of poor quality! Orion can only carry four persons to the Moon we are told but lacks fuel to land on and depart from the Moon. The heavy weight 78 ton Shuttle was a more impressive hoax. It too never visited space. Try to ask ESA about a log for Rosetta and you will get the same answer.


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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #294 on: December 08, 2014, 06:44:28 AM »
As re-entries are, IMO, impossible, the Orion was just another magic trick of NASA to keep the Rosetta illusion alive.

And just like all your other "opinions" Anders, this one too is a load of utter bullshit.

Please go away and play with your LEGO set.

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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #295 on: December 08, 2014, 06:48:41 AM »
Please watch your language in the upper fora, ausGeoff.  Thanks. 

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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #296 on: December 08, 2014, 06:58:37 AM »

I have asked Mr Brandi K. Dean (JSC-AD931)" <[email protected]> of NASA about a log of the 5 December Orion flight with speed (m/s), course (°) (horizontally), position (lat/long on Earth below), altitude (m) - say every 5 or 10 minutes - from start to splashdown to include in my popular web page http://heiwaco.com/moontravel.htm , but Mr Dean has replied:

We can't provide that information because it would reveal information that ULA considers proprietary for the Delta V.

It is clear that NASA cannot provide any evidence that the Orion ever flew anywhere in space above Earth.


This does not follow.  An unwillingness to provide information (that you are not entitled to) does not equate an inability to provide such information does it now?

Now if they failed to provide this information to a senate oversight commitee or something and had no particularly good reason, then you might have more of a point.  You let us know when that happens.  In fact, I will pay 1,000,000CAD if NASA refuses to hand over mission logs for the Dec 5, 2014 Orion mission to a Senate oversight committee.
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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #297 on: December 08, 2014, 07:10:12 AM »

This does not follow.  An unwillingness to provide information (that you are not entitled to) does not equate an inability to provide such information does it now?


You need to remember that this Heiwa person is self-delusional.  He really thinks that he's a person of note, and that everybody hangs with bated breath on his every word that he posts in forums all over the web.

I may have posted THIS link before, but it's worth reviving if only to prove how far off the planet—literally—this guy is:  "The Unique World of Anders Bjorkman (Heiwa)"

One of his classic beliefs?  He claims that a bathroom scale will register the same weight whether you stand on it or jump on it.  I kid you not!  There's a lot more simple merriment to be had in the link.

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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #298 on: December 08, 2014, 07:19:31 AM »

This does not follow.  An unwillingness to provide information (that you are not entitled to) does not equate an inability to provide such information does it now?


NASA has made a lot of PR for Orion but the general public could neither watch the launch nor the splash down at close distance. Only low quality footage and cartoons were handed out indicating it is amateurish science fiction. And then the whole track of the trip is secret because they could not connect the times of launch and splash down correctly. NASA was caught with their pants down ... again ... full of shit. Like the ESA Rosetta clowns with tattooes and naked girls shirts.

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Re: Rosetta's Philae probe makes historic landing on comet
« Reply #299 on: December 08, 2014, 07:36:09 AM »
LOL..... I'm thinking poor old Anders forgot to take his medications this morning.  Again!    ;D