what's on the other side ?

Which amateurs have sent cameras into space?

http://www.planetary.org/explore/space-topics/space-imaging/amateur-pictures-earth-moon.html

I guess those are fake too right?

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Pictures from space are always real, right?

if you don't agree,gather funds,hire engineers,train astronauts,go to space and prove me wrong.

OK.  Just give me around 20 billion dollars and I will get started on it. 

there's no need,you can just accept all the pictures/videos and proofs about the round earth,it costs absolutely nothing and you might learn something.

Yeah, I am sure that all NASA photos are real.   

Don't you realize that NASA gets busted all the time with their faked pictures?

Hmm I'm sure you must realize that before claiming a picture is fake, you must be prepared to back it up.

Google "Fake NASA Pics" and you will get all kinds of evidence.

Still I wouldn't want to think you are implying a false dichotomy. Even if the whole NASA Organization could be proven to be fake, that doesn't mean the earth isn't round.
Humasn can make mistakes, unconscious or on purpose, you cannot fake the Earth's shape.

Quote from: jroa on November 10, 2014, 12:31:18 PM

Which amateurs have sent cameras into space?

http://www.planetary.org/explore/space-topics/space-imaging/amateur-pictures-earth-moon.html

I guess those are fake too right?

Which of those pictures were taken by amateurs? 

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Quote from: jroa on November 10, 2014, 12:27:02 PM

Pictures from space are always real, right?

if you don't agree,gather funds,hire engineers,train astronauts,go to space and prove me wrong.

OK.  Just give me around 20 billion dollars and I will get started on it. 

there's no need,you can just accept all the pictures/videos and proofs about the round earth,it costs absolutely nothing and you might learn something.

Yeah, I am sure that all NASA photos are real.   

Don't you realize that NASA gets busted all the time with their faked pictures?

Hmm I'm sure you must realize that before claiming a picture is fake, you must be prepared to back it up.

Google "Fake NASA Pics" and you will get all kinds of evidence.

Still I wouldn't want to think you are implying a false dichotomy. Even if the whole NASA Organization could be proven to be fake, that doesn't mean the earth isn't round.
Humasn can make mistakes, unconscious or on purpose, you cannot fake the Earth's shape.

Your claim was that because we have pictures from "space", then the Earth must be round.  My rebuttal was that NASA fakes pictures all the time, and therefore, their pictures cannot be used as indisputable proof.  Do you see how a debate works now? 

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Quote from: big brother is watching on November 10, 2014, 12:32:31 PM

Quote from: jroa on November 10, 2014, 12:27:02 PM

Pictures from space are always real, right?

if you don't agree,gather funds,hire engineers,train astronauts,go to space and prove me wrong.

OK.  Just give me around 20 billion dollars and I will get started on it. 

there's no need,you can just accept all the pictures/videos and proofs about the round earth,it costs absolutely nothing and you might learn something.

Yeah, I am sure that all NASA photos are real.   

Don't you realize that NASA gets busted all the time with their faked pictures?

Hmm I'm sure you must realize that before claiming a picture is fake, you must be prepared to back it up.

Google "Fake NASA Pics" and you will get all kinds of evidence.

Still I wouldn't want to think you are implying a false dichotomy. Even if the whole NASA Organization could be proven to be fake, that doesn't mean the earth isn't round.
Humasn can make mistakes, unconscious or on purpose, you cannot fake the Earth's shape.

Your claim was that because we have pictures from "space", then the Earth must be round.  My rebuttal was that NASA fakes pictures all the time, and therefore, their pictures cannot be used as indisputable proof.  Do you see how a debate works now?

In fact I can see flaws in your reasoning. Typing "space" already tells me you have made your decision and are nto viewing things in a neutral point. You are starting with your conclusion and working your way backwards. This is the total opposite of what Science does.

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Quote from: jroa on November 10, 2014, 12:33:44 PM

Quote from: big brother is watching on November 10, 2014, 12:32:31 PM

Quote from: jroa on November 10, 2014, 12:27:02 PM

Pictures from space are always real, right?

if you don't agree,gather funds,hire engineers,train astronauts,go to space and prove me wrong.

OK.  Just give me around 20 billion dollars and I will get started on it. 

there's no need,you can just accept all the pictures/videos and proofs about the round earth,it costs absolutely nothing and you might learn something.

Yeah, I am sure that all NASA photos are real.   

Don't you realize that NASA gets busted all the time with their faked pictures?

Hmm I'm sure you must realize that before claiming a picture is fake, you must be prepared to back it up.

Google "Fake NASA Pics" and you will get all kinds of evidence.

Still I wouldn't want to think you are implying a false dichotomy. Even if the whole NASA Organization could be proven to be fake, that doesn't mean the earth isn't round.
Humasn can make mistakes, unconscious or on purpose, you cannot fake the Earth's shape.

Your claim was that because we have pictures from "space", then the Earth must be round.  My rebuttal was that NASA fakes pictures all the time, and therefore, their pictures cannot be used as indisputable proof.  Do you see how a debate works now?

In fact I can see flaws in your reasoning. Typing "space" already tells me you have made your decision and are nto viewing things in a neutral point. You are starting with your conclusion and working your way backwards. This is the total opposite of what Science does.

When people lie to me, I am hesitant about believing other things they tell me.  Apparently, you just turn the other cheek or pretend that it did not happen. 

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Quote from: jroa on November 10, 2014, 12:33:44 PM

Quote from: big brother is watching on November 10, 2014, 12:32:31 PM

Quote from: jroa on November 10, 2014, 12:27:02 PM

Pictures from space are always real, right?

if you don't agree,gather funds,hire engineers,train astronauts,go to space and prove me wrong.

OK.  Just give me around 20 billion dollars and I will get started on it. 

there's no need,you can just accept all the pictures/videos and proofs about the round earth,it costs absolutely nothing and you might learn something.

Yeah, I am sure that all NASA photos are real.   

Don't you realize that NASA gets busted all the time with their faked pictures?

Hmm I'm sure you must realize that before claiming a picture is fake, you must be prepared to back it up.

Google "Fake NASA Pics" and you will get all kinds of evidence.

Still I wouldn't want to think you are implying a false dichotomy. Even if the whole NASA Organization could be proven to be fake, that doesn't mean the earth isn't round.
Humasn can make mistakes, unconscious or on purpose, you cannot fake the Earth's shape.

Your claim was that because we have pictures from "space", then the Earth must be round.  My rebuttal was that NASA fakes pictures all the time, and therefore, their pictures cannot be used as indisputable proof.  Do you see how a debate works now?

pictures are not the only proof,there are calculus that prove it is round,are you gonna say that's also fake,the education in the schools teach fake math ?

Quote from: Göebbels on November 10, 2014, 12:47:43 PM

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Quote from: big brother is watching on November 10, 2014, 12:41:22 PM

Quote from: jroa on November 10, 2014, 12:33:44 PM

Quote from: big brother is watching on November 10, 2014, 12:32:31 PM

Quote from: jroa on November 10, 2014, 12:27:02 PM

Pictures from space are always real, right?

if you don't agree,gather funds,hire engineers,train astronauts,go to space and prove me wrong.

OK.  Just give me around 20 billion dollars and I will get started on it. 

there's no need,you can just accept all the pictures/videos and proofs about the round earth,it costs absolutely nothing and you might learn something.

Yeah, I am sure that all NASA photos are real.   

Don't you realize that NASA gets busted all the time with their faked pictures?

Hmm I'm sure you must realize that before claiming a picture is fake, you must be prepared to back it up.

Google "Fake NASA Pics" and you will get all kinds of evidence.

Google "Apollo hoax debunked" and you will get all kinds of evidence.

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Quote from: Göebbels on November 10, 2014, 12:51:55 PM

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Quote from: jroa on November 10, 2014, 12:33:44 PM

Quote from: big brother is watching on November 10, 2014, 12:32:31 PM

Quote from: jroa on November 10, 2014, 12:27:02 PM

Pictures from space are always real, right?

if you don't agree,gather funds,hire engineers,train astronauts,go to space and prove me wrong.

OK.  Just give me around 20 billion dollars and I will get started on it. 

there's no need,you can just accept all the pictures/videos and proofs about the round earth,it costs absolutely nothing and you might learn something.

Yeah, I am sure that all NASA photos are real.   

Don't you realize that NASA gets busted all the time with their faked pictures?

Hmm I'm sure you must realize that before claiming a picture is fake, you must be prepared to back it up.

Google "Fake NASA Pics" and you will get all kinds of evidence.

Still I wouldn't want to think you are implying a false dichotomy. Even if the whole NASA Organization could be proven to be fake, that doesn't mean the earth isn't round.
Humasn can make mistakes, unconscious or on purpose, you cannot fake the Earth's shape.

Your claim was that because we have pictures from "space", then the Earth must be round.  My rebuttal was that NASA fakes pictures all the time, and therefore, their pictures cannot be used as indisputable proof.  Do you see how a debate works now?

pictures are not the only proof,there are calculus that prove it is round,are you gonna say that's also fake,the education in the schools teach fake math ?

What makes you think that calculus proves that the Earth is round?  Have you ever heard of refraction of light? 

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Quote from: jroa on November 10, 2014, 12:27:02 PM

Pictures from space are always real, right?

if you don't agree,gather funds,hire engineers,train astronauts,go to space and prove me wrong.

OK.  Just give me around 20 billion dollars and I will get started on it. 

You don´t need to do any of that, you can use a Weather Balloon (Some of the which are very cheap) and use a camera with it to take a photo.
If the Earth is flat why is there a horizon? We would be able to see up to the ends of earth with a weather balloon and a camera if this was true.
If the Earth is flat why are there timezones? Or why can we see farther from higher?
And what do you think of Arctic/Antarctica?

Pictures from space are always real, right?

Yes, pictures taken from space are real.

Quote from: jroa on November 10, 2014, 12:33:44 PM

Quote from: big brother is watching on November 10, 2014, 12:32:31 PM

Quote from: jroa on November 10, 2014, 12:27:02 PM

Pictures from space are always real, right?

if you don't agree,gather funds,hire engineers,train astronauts,go to space and prove me wrong.

OK.  Just give me around 20 billion dollars and I will get started on it. 

You don´t need to do any of that, you can use a Weather Balloon (Some of the which are very cheap) and use a camera with it to take a photo.
If the Earth is flat why is there a horizon? We would be able to see up to the ends of earth with a weather balloon and a camera if this was true.
If the Earth is flat why are there timezones? Or why can we see farther from higher?
And what do you think of Arctic/Antarctica?

A weather balloon will go into space?

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Quote from: jroa on November 10, 2014, 12:33:44 PM

Quote from: big brother is watching on November 10, 2014, 12:32:31 PM

Quote from: jroa on November 10, 2014, 12:27:02 PM

Pictures from space are always real, right?

if you don't agree,gather funds,hire engineers,train astronauts,go to space and prove me wrong.

OK.  Just give me around 20 billion dollars and I will get started on it. 

You don´t need to do any of that, you can use a Weather Balloon (Some of the which are very cheap) and use a camera with it to take a photo.
If the Earth is flat why is there a horizon? We would be able to see up to the ends of earth with a weather balloon and a camera if this was true.
If the Earth is flat why are there timezones? Or why can we see farther from higher?
And what do you think of Arctic/Antarctica?

A weather balloon will go into space?

I didn´t say that, what i meant was that it will go up and reach something close to 50Km (If i´m not mistaken), and that height is enough to see that the earth is round.

Quote from: jroa on November 10, 2014, 12:27:02 PM

Pictures from space are always real, right?

if you don't agree,gather funds,hire engineers,train astronauts,go to space and prove me wrong.

That is the thing. You can never go to space even if you hire all the engineers from NASA. Well, if you consider 80 km above the Earth space, then yes, we can go to space