Simple Balloon "Rocket"...

You suffer from both delusional paranoia and a personality flaw of a superiority complex.

No, I suffer from the ability to be able to see logic against bullcrap. I have the ability to see deliberate misinformation for what it shows.
I have the ability to spot liars.
I have the ability to wipe out nonsense equations and replace them with simple common sense and logic to show them up for what they are in the stuff we are arguing over.
I have the ability to frustrate people who try to pretend they are intellectually smarter than the average bear and yet never realise that all they are is parrots for the system of nonsense given out as a truth which is clearly a lie.

You saw my being kind to you as  me mocking you or belittling you or something but what I was attempting to do is have a simple intelligent conversation with you, which you seem to resist.

Your above post makes you a hypocrite. Don't sit there and attempt ridicule and display a high and mighty stance then in the next sentence pretend you are being kind, or that I think you are kind and take advantage of it. be what the hell you like, it matters not.

Your superiority complex also is evident by your clinging to the legitimacy of your denpressure equation (which others have dimensionally analysed and saw it false) and the rebuttal that we're indoctrinated sheep who are too stupid to posses the logic that you do with your 13 degrees (which may be either a delusion and you truly believe it, or its your superiority complex attempting to compensate for your lack of understanding).

I'm not clinging to any equation. I am clinging to the truth of denpressure and explaining it to those who have a mind to see that truth, against a pathetic made up force of gravity that should be as clear as glass as being ridiculous.

Even your fellow FE 'ers, whom I respect as they're asking mentally taxing questions, don't believe the ludicrous nature of your arguments.

If you'd taken notice you will see that the flat Earth theorists, in the main can't stand me. They are on your side as far as that goes in terms of the dislike but they play a fair game and stay out of my stuff instead of letting me know what they think I am.
I'm capable of fighting my own battles.

Your physics is abysmally under-developed and if you truly had a grasp of what gravity was in the first place, you'd see how inarguably secure the concept is.

No. My physics is as basic as needed to explain truths. Your physics is merely books that explain fantasy. It's not real where Earth and space are involved, in terms of what they are supposed to be.

There's a lot of lies and deliberate misinformation, plus some stuff that borders on potential truth, just used in different ways to keep you all duped.
Your reality is fantasy. My reality is seeing through that fantasy we've been coaxed into accepting.

Your calculations are flawed as you tend to forget about things like friction and your spatial-visual skills are, at best, akin to that of a lunatic as you say that your explanation of how the world works would be, in act, similar to real-life by explaining how real life works, but this is flawed because it is physically hypocritical.

I don't forget about friction if you take notice. Your idea of atmosphere is clouded (pardon the pun) and your mind is on scattered particles and photons and all the rest of the crap. It's nothing like you think it is. Take notice and you might learn. Burn your crap science books first or shove them under your bed and get real.

Become rude and offensive to me and I'll tear your theories apart by psychoanalysis and the harsh truth which you shall fervently deny.

You don't know the meaning of the words "rude" and "offensive" if you think I've been anything like that to you.
You're also, once again - a hypocrite.
Before you tear my theories apart, learn to play the game and stop getting frustrated or you won't last 5 minutes with me.

I had to bin one person who was the biggest cry baby this forum has ever seen in ausGeoff. I had to do it because he tried tot ake me on...got angry when I swatted him like a fly, then the mods reprimanded me because he kept pressing the complaint button every 5 minutes.

Want to know what was weird about that?
He was the one trying to play the ridicule game and I smacked his bum on all occasions, so his last ditch effort was to beg for my banning to such an extent that the mods were fed up of dealing with it, so I got warned a few times.

It's easier to let people like that go and that way they can't complain if I fight back.
You need to learn this if you want to take me on because I will frustrate the hell out of you, so be warned and heed it.

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It never fails to amaze me how little you know about physics.  If you actually knew anything about what you are rejecting then you would know that it's true.

It never ceases to amaze me how little you people know about real physics.
You have copied and memorised bullcrap in abundance and believe it to be real life. It's not. My physics is more reality.

Have you not read my previous posts?  I have EXPERIMENTED to figure out and prove many laws of physics for myself.  I have even done experiments with low pressure environments and how things still fall at 9.8 m/s² even at lower and higher pressure.  The reason that denpressure has not been disproven to you is because you tack the word "lie" on anything that disproves it.

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It never fails to amaze me how little you know about physics.  If you actually knew anything about what you are rejecting then you would know that it's true.

It never ceases to amaze me how little you people know about real physics.
You have copied and memorised bullcrap in abundance and believe it to be real life. It's not. My physics is more reality.

Have you not read my previous posts?  I have EXPERIMENTED to figure out and prove many laws of physics for myself.  I have even done experiments with low pressure environments and how things still fall at 9.8 m/s² even at lower and higher pressure.  The reason that denpressure has not been disproven to you is because you tack the word "lie" on anything that disproves it.

What did you do? did you drop a penny in a bell jar or something?

Let me guess. You have a huge NASA sized chamber and evacuate enough pressure to drop things from a bigger height and that proves it all.

My guess is you've never done one experiment and you're all hot air.

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It never fails to amaze me how little you know about physics.  If you actually knew anything about what you are rejecting then you would know that it's true.

It never ceases to amaze me how little you people know about real physics.
You have copied and memorised bullcrap in abundance and believe it to be real life. It's not. My physics is more reality.

Have you not read my previous posts?  I have EXPERIMENTED to figure out and prove many laws of physics for myself.  I have even done experiments with low pressure environments and how things still fall at 9.8 m/s² even at lower and higher pressure.  The reason that denpressure has not been disproven to you is because you tack the word "lie" on anything that disproves it.

What did you do? did you drop a penny in a bell jar or something?

Let me guess. You have a huge NASA sized chamber and evacuate enough pressure to drop things from a bigger height and that proves it all.

My guess is you've never done one experiment and you're all hot air.

Actually I used this one device that I had that was a container hooked up to a hand pump with it you could lower the pressure in the container by a significant ammount.  I admit that I used it to suffocate a few insects but I also experimented with gravity by putting objects in it and dropping it.  The object in it floated weightlessly while the container was falling and then fell to the bottom once it landed, just like gravity says would happen and denpressure says would not happen.  The object and the container always fall at the same speed as each other no matter what the pressure is inside of it and also the object in it floated weightlessly when it was falling even though the air in the container was moving with it.  RIP denpressure.

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Quote from: mikeman7918 on December 18, 2014, 08:59:56 AM

It never fails to amaze me how little you know about physics.  If you actually knew anything about what you are rejecting then you would know that it's true.

It never ceases to amaze me how little you people know about real physics.
You have copied and memorised bullcrap in abundance and believe it to be real life. It's not. My physics is more reality.

Have you not read my previous posts?  I have EXPERIMENTED to figure out and prove many laws of physics for myself.  I have even done experiments with low pressure environments and how things still fall at 9.8 m/s² even at lower and higher pressure.  The reason that denpressure has not been disproven to you is because you tack the word "lie" on anything that disproves it.

What did you do? did you drop a penny in a bell jar or something?

Let me guess. You have a huge NASA sized chamber and evacuate enough pressure to drop things from a bigger height and that proves it all.

My guess is you've never done one experiment and you're all hot air.

Actually I used this one device that I had that was a container hooked up to a hand pump with it you could lower the pressure in the container by a significant ammount.  I admit that I used it to suffocate a few insects but I also experimented with gravity by putting objects in it and dropping it.  The object in it floated weightlessly while the container was falling and then fell to the bottom once it landed, just like gravity says would happen and denpressure says would not happen.  The object and the container always fall at the same speed as each other no matter what the pressure is inside of it and also the object in it floated weightlessly when it was falling even though the air in the container was moving with it.  RIP denpressure.

Well, that's your credibility destroyed if you were actually looking for some. What a blatant liar you are. Hahahaha.

You should have chosen your words carefully.

Anything that goes against denpressure is a lie to you. Why aren't you open to arguments that really challenges it? Stating that is reality 100% doesn't help as nothing is 100% proof or anything. So far we have lots of evidence for how gravity works and what it does. 0% evidence from denpressure. What would a "logical person with common sense" would move towards to?

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Quote from: mikeman7918 on December 18, 2014, 08:59:56 AM

It never fails to amaze me how little you know about physics.  If you actually knew anything about what you are rejecting then you would know that it's true.

It never ceases to amaze me how little you people know about real physics.
You have copied and memorised bullcrap in abundance and believe it to be real life. It's not. My physics is more reality.

Have you not read my previous posts?  I have EXPERIMENTED to figure out and prove many laws of physics for myself.  I have even done experiments with low pressure environments and how things still fall at 9.8 m/s² even at lower and higher pressure.  The reason that denpressure has not been disproven to you is because you tack the word "lie" on anything that disproves it.

What did you do? did you drop a penny in a bell jar or something?

Let me guess. You have a huge NASA sized chamber and evacuate enough pressure to drop things from a bigger height and that proves it all.

My guess is you've never done one experiment and you're all hot air.

Actually I used this one device that I had that was a container hooked up to a hand pump with it you could lower the pressure in the container by a significant ammount.  I admit that I used it to suffocate a few insects but I also experimented with gravity by putting objects in it and dropping it.  The object in it floated weightlessly while the container was falling and then fell to the bottom once it landed, just like gravity says would happen and denpressure says would not happen.  The object and the container always fall at the same speed as each other no matter what the pressure is inside of it and also the object in it floated weightlessly when it was falling even though the air in the container was moving with it.  RIP denpressure.

Well, that's your credibility destroyed if you were actually looking for some. What a blatant liar you are. Hahahaha.

You should have chosen your words carefully.

You keep telling yourself that.  I just disproved denpressure and you do your signature move of calling it a lie.  You can't even give me an equasion for denpressure, and until you do it will remain an absurd theory.  Math doesn't lie, maybe that's why it's not on your side.

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Quote from: mikeman7918 on December 18, 2014, 08:59:56 AM

It never fails to amaze me how little you know about physics.  If you actually knew anything about what you are rejecting then you would know that it's true.

It never ceases to amaze me how little you people know about real physics.
You have copied and memorised bullcrap in abundance and believe it to be real life. It's not. My physics is more reality.

Have you not read my previous posts?  I have EXPERIMENTED to figure out and prove many laws of physics for myself.  I have even done experiments with low pressure environments and how things still fall at 9.8 m/s² even at lower and higher pressure.  The reason that denpressure has not been disproven to you is because you tack the word "lie" on anything that disproves it.

What did you do? did you drop a penny in a bell jar or something?

Let me guess. You have a huge NASA sized chamber and evacuate enough pressure to drop things from a bigger height and that proves it all.

My guess is you've never done one experiment and you're all hot air.

Actually I used this one device that I had that was a container hooked up to a hand pump with it you could lower the pressure in the container by a significant ammount.  I admit that I used it to suffocate a few insects but I also experimented with gravity by putting objects in it and dropping it.  The object in it floated weightlessly while the container was falling and then fell to the bottom once it landed, just like gravity says would happen and denpressure says would not happen.  The object and the container always fall at the same speed as each other no matter what the pressure is inside of it and also the object in it floated weightlessly when it was falling even though the air in the container was moving with it.  RIP denpressure.

Well, that's your credibility destroyed if you were actually looking for some. What a blatant liar you are. Hahahaha.

You should have chosen your words carefully.

You keep telling yourself that.  I just disproved denpressure and you do your signature move of calling it a lie.  You can't even give me an equasion for denpressure, and until you do it will remain an absurd theory.  Math doesn't lie, maybe that's why it's not on your side.

Scepti's signature is incredibly apropos. I mean I know he put it there to show us sheep how we are wrong. But those of us not suffering from paranoid delusional schizophrenia just see it as the reality of his life. Living that lie and vehemently attacking anyone and anything that threatens to show him the truth.

My guess is you've never done one experiment and you're all hot air.

Did you do that vacuum chamber experiment yet to your standards like you said you were going to do?  How about the laser on the frozen lake?  Is that one ready for public viewing yet?  Photographs or video of these shouldn't be a problem with all that photography equipment you have, right?

Well, that's your credibility destroyed if you were actually looking for some. What a blatant liar you are. Hahahaha.

You should have chosen your words carefully.

That shoe fits pretty good doesn't it.

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Scepti, did you provide a formula for denpressure?  Yes or no.

Nope. I provided a formula.

What is the formula you provided for?

Trivity.

I see.  What is "trivity"?

It's an unknown force that just is.

Sorta like gravity?

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Scepti, did you provide a formula for denpressure?  Yes or no.

Nope. I provided a formula.

What is the formula you provided for?

Trivity.

I see.  What is "trivity"?

It's an unknown force that just is.

Sorta like gravity?

Not at all, because trivity being an unknown force that is unexplainable at the moment but through sceptis observations can be shown to exist is totally different than gravity, which is an unknown force that is unexplainable at the moment but through millions of scientists observations can be shown to exist.

Get it?

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Scepti, did you provide a formula for denpressure?  Yes or no.

Nope. I provided a formula.

What is the formula you provided for?

Trivity.

I see.  What is "trivity"?

It's an unknown force that just is.

Sorta like gravity?

Not at all, because trivity being an unknown force that is unexplainable at the moment but through sceptis observations can be shown to exist is totally different than gravity, which is an unknown force that is unexplainable at the moment but through millions of scientists observations can be shown to exist.

Get it?

*sigh*  Of course I get it.  I just want to see if scepti gets it.

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Scepti, did you provide a formula for denpressure?  Yes or no.

Nope. I provided a formula.

What is the formula you provided for?

Trivity.

I see.  What is "trivity"?

It's an unknown force that just is.

Sorta like gravity?

Not at all, because trivity being an unknown force that is unexplainable at the moment but through sceptis observations can be shown to exist is totally different than gravity, which is an unknown force that is unexplainable at the moment but through millions of scientists observations can be shown to exist.

Get it?

*sigh*  Of course I get it.  I just want to see if scepti gets it.

Never.

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Not going to quote all of your post, just using this as a marker to whom am I answering to.

You have quite a problem there. Potential energy depends on the existance of a force field, and in fact, its the result of an object changing position towards a higher potential zone in the field (an electron going towards a - charged plate gains potential energy, for example).Now there's two problems with denpressure here.

• What field is causing the ball to gain potential energy?
• In the case of the field to be denpressure's pressure field, then decreasing the field should cause the energy to decrease

Im just gonna quote myself until scepti answers this.

Scepti, dont understimate my stubbornness. You claim to be a zeteticist. Why are you ignoring evidence?

Once again, here we go:

Scepti, this is serious problem with the definition of denpressure. I will keep quoting myself until answered.

Regarding you thought experiment, sponges arent fluid. In a gasseous atmosphere, flowing takes less work than compressing the air back in a spring like fashion. This flux in a direction is what causes the balloon to move (via momentum). You are also ignoring that any compresion/deompresion of an area compresses/decompresses nearby areas. If you take a minute thinking on it, you will notice that, mostly all of the energy is disipated, except that one that hits the balloon. Indeed, this effect may actually help with the movement of the balloon.

Sponges may not be fluid but as an anology they work in the same manner as compressing air. If you cannot take an analogy for what it is then there's no point in discussing anything with you.

The purpose of an analogy is to resist analysis. If you make a shitty analogy, dont expect me to accept it.

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Stop being a weak arsed follower and use your logic for crying out loud.
It's all there in your face if you choose to look and open your indoctrinated mind to it, seriously.

You science is bogus. It's a lie. It's deliberate deviation from reality. Reality is tehre. It's in your face. Look at reality instead of books displaying fantasy as reality.
Only logical free thinkers will grasp what I'm saying. People like you will deliberately go into defence mode. You have no chance doing it like that.

Which is why you have ignored 5 times now the original challenge to denpressure. Remember, burden of proof, and this challenge seems to be unadressed by denpressure.

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You are scared to be labelled for thinking outside the box. Terrified even - because your peers, who you regard as intelligent, are merely parrots, nothing more.

I actually regard many of my peers as parrots. It doesnt terrify me on the slightest. Also, if you claim that my peers are wrong, the burden of proof is still on you. Once again, you havent given a single proof of your hypothesis, or solved clear conflicts with reality. Not only is your hypothesis incomplete and unproven, it has been proven wrong, and you havent disprooved those claims.

No, it hasn't been proven wrong and this is simply tit for tat and I will go on as long as necessary to give you the same crap back in your tit for tat pretence that my theory is proven wrong.

I've proved gravity is bullcrap, 100%. There isn't even an argument except for people's reliance on the fantasy of it.
You can't even explain it for crying out loud. It just simply is and that's that. You people are happy with it because the fantasy explains what you want to believe is true for some strange reason.

To actually believe you live on a spinning ball in space is ridiculous enough for those people who've looked into it.
Those who haven't are the ones that can be excused. You have no excuse.

Change your physics books on this stuff. Bin them because they are not worth a carrot.

The only experiments om denpressure are the ones I did. They showed no change in weight when atmospheric pressure is dropped.

Do you remember a toy called a yo yo septic. How would dunny pressure work with them. And how long do we wait for your sums and experiments. 3 days now you have been acting like a cornered cat. Run out of flat cookies A.

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You suffer from both delusional paranoia and a personality flaw of a superiority complex.

No, I suffer from the ability to be able to see logic against bullcrap. I have the ability to see deliberate misinformation for what it shows.
I have the ability to spot liars.
I have the ability to wipe out nonsense equations and replace them with simple common sense and logic to show them up for what they are in the stuff we are arguing over.
I have the ability to frustrate people who try to pretend they are intellectually smarter than the average bear and yet never realise that all they are is parrots for the system of nonsense given out as a truth which is clearly a lie.

Quote from: Orifiel on December 18, 2014, 09:06:29 AM

You saw my being kind to you as  me mocking you or belittling you or something but what I was attempting to do is have a simple intelligent conversation with you, which you seem to resist.

Your above post makes you a hypocrite. Don't sit there and attempt ridicule and display a high and mighty stance then in the next sentence pretend you are being kind, or that I think you are kind and take advantage of it. be what the hell you like, it matters not.

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Your superiority complex also is evident by your clinging to the legitimacy of your denpressure equation (which others have dimensionally analysed and saw it false) and the rebuttal that we're indoctrinated sheep who are too stupid to posses the logic that you do with your 13 degrees (which may be either a delusion and you truly believe it, or its your superiority complex attempting to compensate for your lack of understanding).

I'm not clinging to any equation. I am clinging to the truth of denpressure and explaining it to those who have a mind to see that truth, against a pathetic made up force of gravity that should be as clear as glass as being ridiculous.

Quote from: Orifiel on December 18, 2014, 09:06:29 AM

Even your fellow FE 'ers, whom I respect as they're asking mentally taxing questions, don't believe the ludicrous nature of your arguments.

If you'd taken notice you will see that the flat Earth theorists, in the main can't stand me. They are on your side as far as that goes in terms of the dislike but they play a fair game and stay out of my stuff instead of letting me know what they think I am.
I'm capable of fighting my own battles.

Quote from: Orifiel on December 18, 2014, 09:06:29 AM

Your physics is abysmally under-developed and if you truly had a grasp of what gravity was in the first place, you'd see how inarguably secure the concept is.

No. My physics is as basic as needed to explain truths. Your physics is merely books that explain fantasy. It's not real where Earth and space are involved, in terms of what they are supposed to be.

There's a lot of lies and deliberate misinformation, plus some stuff that borders on potential truth, just used in different ways to keep you all duped.
Your reality is fantasy. My reality is seeing through that fantasy we've been coaxed into accepting.

Quote from: Orifiel on December 18, 2014, 09:06:29 AM

Your calculations are flawed as you tend to forget about things like friction and your spatial-visual skills are, at best, akin to that of a lunatic as you say that your explanation of how the world works would be, in act, similar to real-life by explaining how real life works, but this is flawed because it is physically hypocritical.

I don't forget about friction if you take notice. Your idea of atmosphere is clouded (pardon the pun) and your mind is on scattered particles and photons and all the rest of the crap. It's nothing like you think it is. Take notice and you might learn. Burn your crap science books first or shove them under your bed and get real.

Quote from: Orifiel on December 18, 2014, 09:06:29 AM

Become rude and offensive to me and I'll tear your theories apart by psychoanalysis and the harsh truth which you shall fervently deny.

You don't know the meaning of the words "rude" and "offensive" if you think I've been anything like that to you.
You're also, once again - a hypocrite.
Before you tear my theories apart, learn to play the game and stop getting frustrated or you won't last 5 minutes with me.

I had to bin one person who was the biggest cry baby this forum has ever seen in ausGeoff. I had to do it because he tried tot ake me on...got angry when I swatted him like a fly, then the mods reprimanded me because he kept pressing the complaint button every 5 minutes.

Want to know what was weird about that?
He was the one trying to play the ridicule game and I smacked his bum on all occasions, so his last ditch effort was to beg for my banning to such an extent that the mods were fed up of dealing with it, so I got warned a few times.

It's easier to let people like that go and that way they can't complain if I fight back.
You need to learn this if you want to take me on because I will frustrate the hell out of you, so be warned and heed it.

You only prove to me that you have a superiority complex by referring to others as less intelligent than the average bear.

My initial kindness wasn't hypocritical because you refused it by insult.

And denpressure is evident? We in the scientific community call your denpressure atmospheric pressure and is a known fact to exist, but this doesn't explain as to why other planets without atmospheres still exert a force downwards onto an object.

It isn't what I think you are. It's what I know you are. You almost shout out your disorders by your refusal of maths, your touting of yourself as a genius, and your refusal to admit you may've been wrong when you can't produce any evidence whatsoever of your denpressure working, or your 13 degrees.

What you're telling me is that you don't believe in particles and photons? If so, then why do fiber optics work?

Unlike the freak you're talking about, I have plenty of things to do besides get frustrated with you and your belittling of me. You call me a shill, an indoctrinated less-than-bear intelligent person, and call me a hypocrite...but who was the first one to pose insult? You.

learn to play the game and stop getting frustrated or you won't last 5 minutes with me.

I had to bin one person who was the biggest cry baby this forum has ever seen in ausGeoff. I had to do it because he tried tot ake me on...got angry when I swatted him like a fly, then the mods reprimanded me because he kept pressing the complaint button every 5 minutes.

Want to know what was weird about that?
He was the one trying to play the ridicule game and I smacked his bum on all occasions, so his last ditch effort was to beg for my banning to such an extent that the mods were fed up of dealing with it, so I got warned a few times.

It's easier to let people like that go and that way they can't complain if I fight back.
You need to learn this if you want to take me on because I will frustrate the hell out of you, so be warned and heed it.

All hilarious considering you were the one who once got fed up, quit, and tried deleting all your previous comments.

Looks like septic ran out of flat cookies. Shit A

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learn to play the game and stop getting frustrated or you won't last 5 minutes with me.

I had to bin one person who was the biggest cry baby this forum has ever seen in ausGeoff. I had to do it because he tried tot ake me on...got angry when I swatted him like a fly, then the mods reprimanded me because he kept pressing the complaint button every 5 minutes.

Want to know what was weird about that?
He was the one trying to play the ridicule game and I smacked his bum on all occasions, so his last ditch effort was to beg for my banning to such an extent that the mods were fed up of dealing with it, so I got warned a few times.

It's easier to let people like that go and that way they can't complain if I fight back.
You need to learn this if you want to take me on because I will frustrate the hell out of you, so be warned and heed it.

All hilarious considering you were the one who once got fed up, quit, and tried deleting all your previous comments.

This sort of reaction from sceptimatic is becoming increasingly common in all the threads he takes part in.  He rolls in with a veritable truckload of pseudo-scientific bovine excrement, battles on relentlessly with a gazillion idiotic "arguments" and absurd "facts", realizes that he's fighting a losing battle against an onslaught of scientific facts and empirical evidence, and then runs away with his tail between his legs, never to be seen in the thread again.

I'm actually surprised that the poor guy has the perseverance he has—considering the sheer number of time his silly notions have been shot down in flames.  He's either some sort of intellectual masochist, or a very obtuse, imperceptive individual.

To refresh sceptimatic's memory, these pics show a couple of "senior infants" carrying out the balloon rocket experiment....


   



It never cease to astound me that this sort of simple science that even five-year-old kids can comprehend escapes sceptimatic's understanding completely.  No wonder he's so embarrassed LOL.


EDIT:  Corrected [img] coding AGAIN.  Is site admin EVER gonna fix this glitch?

Found another septic.


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Flat Earth General / Re: When the space ships were supposedly in space where were they?
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Quote from: Gulliver on December 16, 2014, 09:15:31 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on December 16, 2014, 06:10:40 PM
Nah, if they were running a fake space program they wouldn't create a Saturn V with the official specs, with the ability to reach escape velocity at 4 miles a second, with a mass of over 6.5 million pounds, filled to the brim with dangerous rocket fuel. They would have created an inferior version that only needed to fly out of sight.

It was a rocket masquerading as it's bigger brother in a show: A firework.
Just how much smaller could such a "smaller brother" be and still fly out of sight of the international press? How why to you refer to "reach escape velocity"? We've repeatedly pointed out your ignorance on this point. Please stop referring to escape velocity as though a rocket must reach that velocity for whatever reason you erroneously invoke it.

The Saturn V is significantly bigger than, say, the V2 rocket technology the US stole from postwar germany. The V2 had no problem going up into the air until they got out of sight.


Gee the mob over there are real smart. This is the dude with the bishop constant.

You only prove to me that you have a superiority complex by referring to others as less intelligent than the average bear.

No. It's not about being less intelligent. It's about being naive. You people display it in abundance. I have no qualms about you being intelligent but intelligence doesn't quite paint the larger picture.
I person in a quiz who answers all the questions before any other can be classes as super intelligent. Are they?
Can super intelligent people be super naive?
Have a think on this.

My initial kindness wasn't hypocritical because you refused it by insult.

I haven't insulted you no more than you have tried to do to me, you hypocrite.

And denpressure is evident? We in the scientific community call your denpressure atmospheric pressure and is a known fact to exist, but this doesn't explain as to why other planets without atmospheres still exert a force downwards onto an object.

Yes, you in the scientific community (whatever that is) call it atmospheric pressure but you can't marry it up to what objects do and are, in it by denpressure  crushing your gravity nonsense.
Learn it and you will become much better at figuring out truths and lies.

It isn't what I think you are. It's what I know you are. You almost shout out your disorders by your refusal of maths, your touting of yourself as a genius, and your refusal to admit you may've been wrong when you can't produce any evidence whatsoever of your denpressure working, or your 13 degrees.

As I said before and I'll say it again. Maths is fine when they're needed. In explanations for my denpressure; it is not required for someone to grasp it. Your reliance of equations is sad for the things you harp on about. Things that you cannot physically prove, except to say, "it is", and it's as simple as that.

For real life construction and what not...this is the time when math comes in. For working out angles/areas and what not, in real life - this is where equations and forumlas come in, which is fine.

When trying to make a layman try to understand denpressure and why it's the true purpose of why we are even alive and why gravity is simply made up to dupe us, they need to be taught how it works, basically. You people are so head crammed with figures that the basics in life escape you. It's called naivety, gullible.

You can be pickpocketed at traffic lights because you tried to work out the equations for the sequence and timing of the lights as your wallet and watch, plus tie was taken from you. You lose what reality is. You cannot see the woods for the trees.

What you're telling me is that you don't believe in particles and photons? If so, then why do fiber optics work?

Your idea of particles and photons are some scattered matter just going about it's own business. You fail to understand what's really happening. You can't grasp that every element on earth is attached with no gaps. No free space. Get this right and you have a chance. Stick to clap trap and you're a waste of time.

Unlike the freak you're talking about, I have plenty of things to do besides get frustrated with you and your belittling of me. You call me a shill, an indoctrinated less-than-bear intelligent person, and call me a hypocrite...but who was the first one to pose insult? You.

Look. You - like others, come here with the sole purpose of believing you are going to be the one to belittle and put to bed people's notions on what the Earth is. When you realise that you're not smart enough to do that, you try to up it and get a bit more personal, then cry like a baby when you get a bit back.
The thing is, I'm not being personal unless you take it like that. I don't call you names or bad mouth your family or anything. I simply call you naive and what not, just like you do to me.
Aceept it and get on with it. Just remember. Geoffrey has tried and better tried and has failed. He's tried all the tricks in the book and I'm still smiling. Don't become another Geoffrey.
If you believe I'm nuts, stupid, backward or anything else then do not take me on. If you think you're so smart then what are you doing arguing with a dummy like me for?
Start to learn that coming here with your head up your arse thinking you're this scientific smart guy, learn that I don't give a rats arse about it.

Quote from: sceptimatic on December 18, 2014, 10:11:13 AM

learn to play the game and stop getting frustrated or you won't last 5 minutes with me.

I had to bin one person who was the biggest cry baby this forum has ever seen in ausGeoff. I had to do it because he tried tot ake me on...got angry when I swatted him like a fly, then the mods reprimanded me because he kept pressing the complaint button every 5 minutes.

Want to know what was weird about that?
He was the one trying to play the ridicule game and I smacked his bum on all occasions, so his last ditch effort was to beg for my banning to such an extent that the mods were fed up of dealing with it, so I got warned a few times.

It's easier to let people like that go and that way they can't complain if I fight back.
You need to learn this if you want to take me on because I will frustrate the hell out of you, so be warned and heed it.

All hilarious considering you were the one who once got fed up, quit, and tried deleting all your previous comments.

Careful there , son, you appear to be damping down a little. Man up a bit and work on your bladder control.

Looks like septic ran out of flat cookies. Shit A

I think you've ran out of the ability to actually type a full line. Put some effort in. 

Here's a NASA explanation as to how their rockets work.
Pay attention to it.

Note the part where they put a tablet in the water and close the lid. This is how they are pretending they work all the way up.
Can anyone see a problem with this?

Notice how the build up of pressure inside the little container forces the container up and leaves the lid on the desk.
Can anyone see any problem?

They are trying to tell you that the rocket uses action/reaction as if it was a bullet. Would this really power a rocket to accelrate into the sky or would this springboard a rocket into the sky in one fell swoop?

Here's the problem.
You see, in a way, this is what happens but the difference is the lid being left, because that lid is the ground as it's sat on the ground, or table.
Now what we have is a pressure build up that pushes against the top and the lid. Think of it like you being compressed inside of it and trying to force your head up by using your feet to push against the lid.
Naturally you can push the ground way, so the container gets pushed up by your head.
Makes sense, right?

So this is how you get duped into believing rockets work but do you see the problem?

The problem is the lid and your feet pushing against that lid in an ENCLOSED environment where pressure has to give.

Can anyone not see a problem though?

Ok, here's the problem. You see, the rockets we are told to believe work all the way to space constantly have this lid on and a ground to keep it put putting into space in an action/reaction way.


So why dont you test it out as it's easy to do.

Instead of this rocket container and tablet being on the ground. Let's use it as to how we are told it works.

Tie your container up on the ceiling from string. Put the same water in and then the tablet with the lid facing down as it hangs.
Now observe what happens when the pressure builds up and the lid blows off, then come back and try to tell me that rockets can kick themselves up their own arses into space.

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So many words, so little content...

So many words, so little content...

sceptimatic must think that if he posts 400 words of absolute drivel, there may just be one or two phrases that make sense?

Dunno?  The guy seems to be intellectually crippled.   

then come back and try to tell me that rockets can kick themselves up their own arses into space.

Easy enough, the pressure is continuous. 

*eta

Careful there , son, you appear to be damping down a little. Man up a bit and work on your bladder control.

Lol, what?

Here's a NASA explanation as to how their rockets work.
Pay attention to it.

Note the part where they put a tablet in the water and close the lid. This is how they are pretending they work all the way up.
Can anyone see a problem with this?

Notice how the build up of pressure inside the little container forces the container up and leaves the lid on the desk.
Can anyone see any problem?

They are trying to tell you that the rocket uses action/reaction as if it was a bullet. Would this really power a rocket to accelrate into the sky or would this springboard a rocket into the sky in one fell swoop?

Here's the problem.
You see, in a way, this is what happens but the difference is the lid being left, because that lid is the ground as it's sat on the ground, or table.
Now what we have is a pressure build up that pushes against the top and the lid. Think of it like you being compressed inside of it and trying to force your head up by using your feet to push against the lid.
Naturally you can push the ground way, so the container gets pushed up by your head.
Makes sense, right?

So this is how you get duped into believing rockets work but do you see the problem?

The problem is the lid and your feet pushing against that lid in an ENCLOSED environment where pressure has to give.

Can anyone not see a problem though?

Ok, here's the problem. You see, the rockets we are told to believe work all the way to space constantly have this lid on and a ground to keep it put putting into space in an action/reaction way.


So why dont you test it out as it's easy to do.

Instead of this rocket container and tablet being on the ground. Let's use it as to how we are told it works.

Tie your container up on the ceiling from string. Put the same water in and then the tablet with the lid facing down as it hangs.
Now observe what happens when the pressure builds up and the lid blows off, then come back and try to tell me that rockets can kick themselves up their own arses into space.

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I have launched my own rockets propelled by solid rocket motors and they seem to fly (unless there are actually government agents hoisting it up with a fishing line).  Also, NASA's rocket launches are actually public events to which anybody can come and spectate a rocket launch.  The reason that rocket engines work is because gas is matter too and it has mass just like the lid in your example.

So many words, so little content...

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on December 20, 2014, 06:14:04 AM

So many words, so little content...

sceptimatic must think that if he posts 400 words of absolute drivel, there may just be one or two phrases that make sense?

Dunno?  The guy seems to be intellectually crippled.   

Please watch the low content posts.  Thanks. 

Here's a NASA explanation as to how their rockets work.
Pay attention to it.

Note the part where they put a tablet in the water and close the lid. This is how they are pretending they work all the way up.
Can anyone see a problem with this?

Notice how the build up of pressure inside the little container forces the container up and leaves the lid on the desk.
Can anyone see any problem?

They are trying to tell you that the rocket uses action/reaction as if it was a bullet. Would this really power a rocket to accelrate into the sky or would this springboard a rocket into the sky in one fell swoop?

Here's the problem.
You see, in a way, this is what happens but the difference is the lid being left, because that lid is the ground as it's sat on the ground, or table.
Now what we have is a pressure build up that pushes against the top and the lid. Think of it like you being compressed inside of it and trying to force your head up by using your feet to push against the lid.
Naturally you can push the ground way, so the container gets pushed up by your head.
Makes sense, right?

So this is how you get duped into believing rockets work but do you see the problem?

The problem is the lid and your feet pushing against that lid in an ENCLOSED environment where pressure has to give.

Can anyone not see a problem though?

Ok, here's the problem. You see, the rockets we are told to believe work all the way to space constantly have this lid on and a ground to keep it put putting into space in an action/reaction way.


So why dont you test it out as it's easy to do.

Instead of this rocket container and tablet being on the ground. Let's use it as to how we are told it works.

Tie your container up on the ceiling from string. Put the same water in and then the tablet with the lid facing down as it hangs.
Now observe what happens when the pressure builds up and the lid blows off, then come back and try to tell me that rockets can kick themselves up their own arses into space.

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The funny thing is, scepti, rockets do work using pressure. You seem to think pressure can only come in the shape of closed enviroments, which, as someone who has built jet engines, I can confirm you it is not a requirement.

This conspiracy url, http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/k-12/airplane/rktthsum.html, also shows common rocket thrust equations, which clearly take into account chamber pressure into it.