Simple Balloon "Rocket"...

It will ever get there. You think two balls of equal dimension but different densities drop at different rates. This shows that you have never tested your theory. Once you test it, you will realize it is full of holes and be forced to delete all your posts in a fit of pique.

You have never tested it either. I know I'm correct and anyone who has the ability to test it, wills ee I'm correct. It requires a high structure and someone at the bottom with a camera focused on the drop. Then you will see who's correct.

Gravity is a lie and denpressure is reality.

Quote from: Rama Set on November 16, 2014, 05:50:29 PM

It will ever get there. You think two balls of equal dimension but different densities drop at different rates. This shows that you have never tested your theory. Once you test it, you will realize it is full of holes and be forced to delete all your posts in a fit of pique.

You have never tested it either. I know I'm correct and anyone who has the ability to test it, wills ee I'm correct. It requires a high structure and someone at the bottom with a camera focused on the drop. Then you will see who's correct.

Gravity is a lie and denpressure is reality.

Prove it.

Quote from: Rama Set on November 16, 2014, 05:50:29 PM

It will ever get there. You think two balls of equal dimension but different densities drop at different rates. This shows that you have never tested your theory. Once you test it, you will realize it is full of holes and be forced to delete all your posts in a fit of pique.

You have never tested it either. I know I'm correct and anyone who has the ability to test it, wills ee I'm correct. It requires a high structure and someone at the bottom with a camera focused on the drop. Then you will see who's correct.

Gravity is a lie and denpressure is reality.

I have tested it.  In high school.  Denpressure fails for this and countless other reasons.  Please just test it out so that you can move on from this delusion to another.

Quote from: sokarul on November 16, 2014, 05:14:08 PM

As they say in America, Sceptic is digging such a deep hole he will soon hit China.

Also

Quote from: sokarul on November 16, 2014, 12:32:44 PM

I noticed you could not explain why leaves blow with the wind but the ball moves against the wind.

Can you clarify what you are trying to get at here?

In the ball experiment, you said that air moves around the ball from high pressure to low pressure, and as a result the ball moves towards the high pressure. Then you mentioned wind.  Objects in wind move with the wind which is moving from high pressure to low pressure. Your two ideas are contradictory. So what is it. Do objects in wind move from high pressure to low pressure or do they move from low pressure to high pressure?

Quote from: neimoka on November 16, 2014, 01:04:38 PM

How is this 'energy' stored in the thrown ball? Does it get warm or something, what kind of energy are we talking about here?

The energy is totally reliant of the energy you use to push it up.

And that of course is the same energy that instantly disappears the second you stop pushing. Imagine if you were in a vacuum about to hit a golf ball. You take a swing and the second the ball is no longer touching the club it instantly stops. This is what you believe. 

Sokarul basically summed it up there. But what about the air itself? How does the low pressure air at higher elevation push to compress the air mass beneath it to what we consider normal atmospheric pressure?

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Quote from: sceptimatic on November 15, 2014, 05:42:45 PM

They cannot work in a near vacuum, no matter what bullshit gets attached to them. No atmosphere, no flight. It's as simple as that.

Can you please explain in simple terms why a rocket engine can work within the earth's atmosphere, but can't work in the near-vacuum of outer space—as is alleged?  And at what altitude above the earth's surface would there be insufficient air for a rocket engine to work satisfactorily?

Of course I can explain it. I have done. The problem is, I can't explain it to people like you because it's like trying to explain how a magician uses props, sleight of hand and mis-direction to achieve trick success, only for people like you to deny it and explain why it's actually real magic.

I'll explain it to those who are genuinely interested. You are not worth a light as regards that.

LOL..... this is such a funny—and a typical sceptimatic non-response—whenever he's backed into a corner and can't answer a couple of simple questions about high-school level science.

In these situations, his avoidance is so patently and embarrassingly obvious;  he resorts to a childish insult instead of answering the question asked.  Obviously he thinks—and I kid you not!—that all the other posters here don't see this puerile attempt at hiding his own scientific inadequacies.  And for a self-proclaimed "genius" and "scientific researcher" with thirteen academic qualifications, he seems—repeatedly—to be at a loss for any legitimate scientific answers to legitimate questions such as mine.

I'm actually surprised at how easy it is to call the guy's bluff;  it's like talking to a 12-year old (although I don't wanna insult 12-year-olds LOL.)

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Quote from: Rama Set on November 16, 2014, 05:50:29 PM

It will ever get there. You think two balls of equal dimension but different densities drop at different rates. This shows that you have never tested your theory. Once you test it, you will realize it is full of holes and be forced to delete all your posts in a fit of pique.

You have never tested it either. I know I'm correct and anyone who has the ability to test it, wills ee I'm correct. It requires a high structure and someone at the bottom with a camera focused on the drop. Then you will see who's correct.

Gravity is a lie and denpressure is reality.

I have tested it.  In high school.  Denpressure fails for this and countless other reasons.  Please just test it out so that you can move on from this delusion to another.

Well, it looks like all the Earth's mysteries were all solved in high school.
The amount of times this stuff gets pushed out, is laughable. The truth is you are still as naive as you were in high school, as in ...like we all did, you simply believe in what you're told.

Anyway, if this is not the case with you and you were the one that actually done the tests to confirm stuff, 100% - tell me what you did to prove gravity is real and denpressure is not.
Please don't come back with silliness like, "oh, I dropped a tennis ball and an iron ball of equal sizes from chest height." Please don't type anything like that.

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Quote from: sceptimatic on November 16, 2014, 05:55:12 PM

Quote from: Rama Set on November 16, 2014, 05:50:29 PM

It will ever get there. You think two balls of equal dimension but different densities drop at different rates. This shows that you have never tested your theory. Once you test it, you will realize it is full of holes and be forced to delete all your posts in a fit of pique.

You have never tested it either. I know I'm correct and anyone who has the ability to test it, wills ee I'm correct. It requires a high structure and someone at the bottom with a camera focused on the drop. Then you will see who's correct.

Gravity is a lie and denpressure is reality.

I have tested it.  In high school.  Denpressure fails for this and countless other reasons.  Please just test it out so that you can move on from this delusion to another.

Well, it looks like all the Earth's mysteries were all solved in high school.
The amount of times this stuff gets pushed out, is laughable. The truth is you are still as naive as you were in high school, as in ...like we all did, you simply believe in what you're told.

Anyway, if this is not the case with you and you were the one that actually done the tests to confirm stuff, 100% - tell me what you did to prove gravity is real and denpressure is not.
Please don't come back with silliness like, "oh, I dropped a tennis ball and an iron ball of equal sizes from chest height." Please don't type anything like that.

"please don't say that you did the experiment that I said you didn't do, an experiment that takes just minutes to set up. That would just be too unbelievable."

In the ball experiment, you said that air moves around the ball from high pressure to low pressure, and as a result the ball moves towards the high pressure.

How about reading what I type? By reading it and grasping it all, you may get the chance to understand what I'm saying.
The ball does not move towards the high pressure. The ball under energy, as in the throw, creates the higher pressure by compressing the air above it which is forced around it to equalise with the lower pressure that is now under it.

Have a serious think on this and absorb what I'm saying.

 

Then you mentioned wind.  Objects in wind move with the wind which is moving from high pressure to low pressure. Your two ideas are contradictory. So what is it. Do objects in wind move from high pressure to low pressure or do they move from low pressure to high pressure?

Should you really be asking this?



 

And that of course is the same energy that instantly disappears the second you stop pushing. Imagine if you were in a vacuum about to hit a golf ball. You take a swing and the second the ball is no longer touching the club it instantly stops. This is what you believe.

No, it's not what I believe. It's what you interpret me believing because you are not willing to grasp what I'm saying.

Let me try and hammer this home one last time.
A true vacuum is the absence of all matter. It's black to our eyes because it does not exists as anything, meaning that inside our cell     with clear ice dome, we see black when we look up at the dark sky. It's not that we see into the vacuum, it's that we cannot see past the clear dome as there is no matter for us to see.

Now taking that into account, no gold ball or man or machine is going to move in something that does not exist, so basically you thinking I'm talking about an actornaut hitting a gold ball and it just stopping, is not even valid to talk about because it simply can't happen in a true vacuum.

For someone to swing a club at a gold ball, requires movement, which has to have a medium for that movement to take place. Earth offers it and that's where it ends.

Quote from: sokarul on November 16, 2014, 08:37:58 PM

In the ball experiment, you said that air moves around the ball from high pressure to low pressure, and as a result the ball moves towards the high pressure.

How about reading what I type? By reading it and grasping it all, you may get the chance to understand what I'm saying.
The ball does not move towards the high pressure. The ball under energy, as in the throw, creates the higher pressure by compressing the air above it which is forced around it to equalise with the lower pressure that is now under it.

Have a serious think on this and absorb what I'm saying.

 

Quote from: sokarul on November 16, 2014, 08:37:58 PM

Then you mentioned wind.  Objects in wind move with the wind which is moving from high pressure to low pressure. Your two ideas are contradictory. So what is it. Do objects in wind move from high pressure to low pressure or do they move from low pressure to high pressure?

Should you really be asking this?



 

Quote from: sokarul on November 16, 2014, 08:37:58 PM

And that of course is the same energy that instantly disappears the second you stop pushing. Imagine if you were in a vacuum about to hit a golf ball. You take a swing and the second the ball is no longer touching the club it instantly stops. This is what you believe.

No, it's not what I believe. It's what you interpret me believing because you are not willing to grasp what I'm saying.

Let me try and hammer this home one last time.
A true vacuum is the absence of all matter. It's black to our eyes because it does not exists as anything, meaning that inside our cell     with clear ice dome, we see black when we look up at the dark sky. It's not that we see into the vacuum, it's that we cannot see past the clear dome as there is no matter for us to see.

Now taking that into account, no gold ball or man or machine is going to move in something that does not exist, so basically you thinking I'm talking about an actornaut hitting a gold ball and it just stopping, is not even valid to talk about because it simply can't happen in a true vacuum.

For someone to swing a club at a gold ball, requires movement, which has to have a medium for that movement to take place. Earth offers it and that's where it ends.

"Despite the fact that I don't believe true vacuums exist, I am an expert on what can and cannot work in one. Also, I like to make arguments about space being a load of tripe by saying that it can't work because it's supposedly a true vacuum, which, like I said, can't exist in the way we are told, even though nobody claims it is a true vacuum"

A true vacuum is the absence of all matter. It's black to our eyes because it does not exists as anything, meaning that inside our cell     with clear ice dome, we see black when we look up at the dark sky. It's not that we see into the vacuum, it's that we cannot see past the clear dome as there is no matter for us to see.

Oooh, a dome!

Who put that there?

As for your "denpressure" Why doesn't it work horizontally then? A brick and a beach ball when flung from a swing will produces two different displacements of the swing (and the flinger) despite the brick having a much smaller frontal area.

Do you think it could have anything to do with the relative masses of brick & beach ball (Brick approx 40N, Beachball approx 1N)?

Oooh, a dome!

Who put that there?

The Earth put it there as a natural build, just like everything else.

As for your "denpressure" Why doesn't it work horizontally then?

It works all ways.

A brick and a beach ball when flung from a swing will produces two different displacements of the swing (and the flinger) despite the brick having a much smaller frontal area.

Do you think it could have anything to do with the relative masses of brick & beach ball (Brick approx 40N, Beachball approx 1N)?

Explain.

"Hi, I'm scepti. I claim that nothing can live inside of a vacuum. ABSOLUTELY nothing. Except for a dome. That's exempt"

"Also, I'm a scientist even though I just learned what pi was last year on the flat earth society"

You wrote that the ball moves towards higher pressure. You say that it's because it has 'energy'. What is this energy that the moving ball has once released, all it has should be the pressures around it that make it move - towards higher pressure. What is this energy? Did it get warm? Did it compress? Even if it was a rigid material? Can you quantify this energy?

"Hi, I'm scepti. I claim that nothing can live inside of a vacuum. ABSOLUTELY nothing. Except for a dome. That's exempt"

"Also, I'm a scientist even though I just learned what pi was last year on the flat earth society"

It's a shame you're so bad tempered and ignorant. You could learn something if you weren't like you are. Why do you think I give you very little of my time?

You wrote that the ball moves towards higher pressure. You say that it's because it has 'energy'. What is this energy that the moving ball has once released, all it has should be the pressures around it that make it move - towards higher pressure. What is this energy? Did it get warm? Did it compress? Even if it was a rigid material? Can you quantify this energy?

The energy was created by the person throwing the ball. Yes is would slightly coompress and yes it would get warm as you put it......but....and take this in.

It would not compress or get warm in any way you would recognise, as it would have to be thrown with a massive amount of energy to show this.
Why can't you grasp this stuff?

Why do you think I give you very little of my time?

Is there the slightest chance sceptimatic that you'll do us all a favour, and give us even less of your time?

My facial laughter muscles are starting to ache!   

Quote from: sceptimatic on November 17, 2014, 05:21:46 AM

Why do you think I give you very little of my time?

Is there the slightest chance sceptimatic that you'll do us all a favour, and give us even less of your time?

My facial laughter muscles are starting to ache!   

Gravity is nothing more than atmospheric pressure. The new name is "denpressure."

Quote from: rottingroom on November 17, 2014, 05:19:09 AM

"Hi, I'm scepti. I claim that nothing can live inside of a vacuum. ABSOLUTELY nothing. Except for a dome. That's exempt"

"Also, I'm a scientist even though I just learned what pi was last year on the flat earth society"

It's a shame you're so bad tempered and ignorant. You could learn something if you weren't like you are. Why do you think I give you very little of my time?

"Hi I'm scepti. I think people care about what I say even though I'm the village idiot"

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"Hi, I'm scepti. I claim that nothing can live inside of a vacuum. ABSOLUTELY nothing. Except for a dome. That's exempt"

"Also, I'm a scientist even though I just learned what pi was last year on the flat earth society"

It's a shame you're so bad tempered and ignorant. You could learn something if you weren't like you are. Why do you think I give you very little of my time?

"Hi I'm scepti. I think people care about what I say even though I'm the village idiot"

This is how it normally ends up with you. Bad tempered, Act like a child and think you're getting somewhere.
Let me know when you grow up a little and we can talk. Until then, keep up the playground silliness.

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"Hi, I'm scepti. I claim that nothing can live inside of a vacuum. ABSOLUTELY nothing. Except for a dome. That's exempt"

"Also, I'm a scientist even though I just learned what pi was last year on the flat earth society"

It's a shame you're so bad tempered and ignorant. You could learn something if you weren't like you are. Why do you think I give you very little of my time?

"Hi I'm scepti. I think people care about what I say even though I'm the village idiot"

This is how it normally ends up with you. Bad tempered, Act like a child and think you're getting somewhere.
Let me know when you grow up a little and we can talk. Until then, keep up the playground silliness.

"Hi I'm scepti. When people prove me wrong, it shows without a doubt that I am right. I like to throw words in like '100%' because it makes me more right. It doesn't matter that I'm wrong 100%"

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"Hi, I'm scepti. I claim that nothing can live inside of a vacuum. ABSOLUTELY nothing. Except for a dome. That's exempt"

"Also, I'm a scientist even though I just learned what pi was last year on the flat earth society"

It's a shame you're so bad tempered and ignorant. You could learn something if you weren't like you are. Why do you think I give you very little of my time?

"Hi I'm scepti. I think people care about what I say even though I'm the village idiot"

This is how it normally ends up with you. Bad tempered, Act like a child and think you're getting somewhere.
Let me know when you grow up a little and we can talk. Until then, keep up the playground silliness.

"Hi I'm scepti. When people prove me wrong, it shows without a doubt that I am right. I like to throw words in like '100%' because it makes me more right. It doesn't matter that I'm wrong 100%"

This will be my last correspondence to you. I have one last thing to say. Answer it if you want but you will receive no reply.

Are you related to geoffrey?

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"Hi, I'm scepti. I claim that nothing can live inside of a vacuum. ABSOLUTELY nothing. Except for a dome. That's exempt"

"Also, I'm a scientist even though I just learned what pi was last year on the flat earth society"

It's a shame you're so bad tempered and ignorant. You could learn something if you weren't like you are. Why do you think I give you very little of my time?

"Hi I'm scepti. I think people care about what I say even though I'm the village idiot"

This is how it normally ends up with you. Bad tempered, Act like a child and think you're getting somewhere.
Let me know when you grow up a little and we can talk. Until then, keep up the playground silliness.

"Hi I'm scepti. When people prove me wrong, it shows without a doubt that I am right. I like to throw words in like '100%' because it makes me more right. It doesn't matter that I'm wrong 100%"

This will be my last correspondence to you. I have one last thing to say. Answer it if you want but you will receive no reply.

Are you related to geoffrey?

"Hi, I'm scepti. I actually think that others interpret my blocking as a punishment."

"Hi, I'm rottingroom. Please block me as I will continue to reinterpret your terrible posts whether you see them or not."

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"Hi, I'm scepti. I claim that nothing can live inside of a vacuum. ABSOLUTELY nothing. Except for a dome. That's exempt"

"Also, I'm a scientist even though I just learned what pi was last year on the flat earth society"

It's a shame you're so bad tempered and ignorant. You could learn something if you weren't like you are. Why do you think I give you very little of my time?

"Hi I'm scepti. I think people care about what I say even though I'm the village idiot"

This is how it normally ends up with you. Bad tempered, Act like a child and think you're getting somewhere.
Let me know when you grow up a little and we can talk. Until then, keep up the playground silliness.

"Hi I'm scepti. When people prove me wrong, it shows without a doubt that I am right. I like to throw words in like '100%' because it makes me more right. It doesn't matter that I'm wrong 100%"

This will be my last correspondence to you. I have one last thing to say. Answer it if you want but you will receive no reply.

Are you related to geoffrey?

LOL... sceptimatic allegedly added me to his IGNORE list several months ago with a similar threat.  He couldn't then—and still cannot now—resist seeing what I have to say, to the extent that he sometimes responds to my comments in just 2 or 3 minutes!  I'm guessing he hovers over his screen, hands poised above his keyboard, waiting with bated breath to post yet another inanity.

And I agree; it's more than funny that the poor sap sees "blocking" us as some sort of punishment that'll make us suffer.  When in actuality, it's the exact opposite.   

—Can you please block me again sceptimatic, and refrain from responding to my posts?  Thanks.

Also, scepti likes to claim that he does not post to try and convince anyone else of anything and that he only intends to speak to those whose minds are "tuned-in".

If that's the case then there is a place where he can preach. Round Earther's wouldn't touch these dreadful places with a ten foot pole:

Flat Earth Believers
Flat Earth Information Repository

I totally recommend this because he is a failure at debate. Just have your little sunday school's there.

I'm not sure that sceptimatic understands exactly what the term "debate" means.  He seems to think it entails composing endless little personal parables aimed at insulting just about everybody else on these forums.

A debate is supposed to be a place where everybody brings their claims and evidence to the table for equal discussion by both sides.  We round earthers bring our scientific claims with truckloads of evidence, whereas people such as sceptimatic bring theirs in thimbles.

—Which are often half empty.     

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"Hi, I'm scepti. I claim that nothing can live inside of a vacuum. ABSOLUTELY nothing. Except for a dome. That's exempt"

"Also, I'm a scientist even though I just learned what pi was last year on the flat earth society"

It's a shame you're so bad tempered and ignorant. You could learn something if you weren't like you are. Why do you think I give you very little of my time?

"Hi I'm scepti. I think people care about what I say even though I'm the village idiot"

This is how it normally ends up with you. Bad tempered, Act like a child and think you're getting somewhere.
Let me know when you grow up a little and we can talk. Until then, keep up the playground silliness.

"Hi I'm scepti. When people prove me wrong, it shows without a doubt that I am right. I like to throw words in like '100%' because it makes me more right. It doesn't matter that I'm wrong 100%"

This will be my last correspondence to you. I have one last thing to say. Answer it if you want but you will receive no reply.

Are you related to geoffrey?

LOL... sceptimatic allegedly added me to his IGNORE list several months ago with a similar threat.  He couldn't then—and still cannot now—resist seeing what I have to say, to the extent that he sometimes responds to my comments in just 2 or 3 minutes!  I'm guessing he hovers over his screen, hands poised above his keyboard, waiting with bated breath to post yet another inanity.

And I agree; it's more than funny that the poor sap sees "blocking" us as some sort of punishment that'll make us suffer.  When in actuality, it's the exact opposite.   

—Can you please block me again sceptimatic, and refrain from responding to my posts?  Thanks.

Absolutely. You and Rottingroom will not be responded to. Carry on posting as much as you want to me or about me.  This is my last ever post to any of you two. 

Quote from: Rama Set on November 16, 2014, 05:50:29 PM

It will ever get there. You think two balls of equal dimension but different densities drop at different rates. This shows that you have never tested your theory. Once you test it, you will realize it is full of holes and be forced to delete all your posts in a fit of pique.

You have never tested it either. I know I'm correct and anyone who has the ability to test it, wills ee I'm correct. It requires a high structure and someone at the bottom with a camera focused on the drop. Then you will see who's correct.

Gravity is a lie and denpressure is reality.

Have your tested objects falling?

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Quote from: Rama Set on November 16, 2014, 05:50:29 PM

It will ever get there. You think two balls of equal dimension but different densities drop at different rates. This shows that you have never tested your theory. Once you test it, you will realize it is full of holes and be forced to delete all your posts in a fit of pique.

You have never tested it either. I know I'm correct and anyone who has the ability to test it, wills ee I'm correct. It requires a high structure and someone at the bottom with a camera focused on the drop. Then you will see who's correct.

Gravity is a lie and denpressure is reality.

Have your tested objects falling?

Have you?

Quote from: ausGeoff on November 17, 2014, 06:31:55 AM

—Can you please block me again sceptimatic, and refrain from responding to my posts?  Thanks.

Absolutely. You and Rottingroom will not be responded to. Carry on posting as much as you want to me or about me.   This is my last ever post to any of you two.

Is that a promise sceptimatic?  Please make it so.  I don't want it to be just another of your numerous lies you've repeatedly posted here.

You can now direct your childish little tantrums at other people who may have more patience playing your puerile mind games.

—Have fun in the sand pit, and don't steal the other kids' toys.