Coldest Temperature

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Misero

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Coldest Temperature
« on: November 08, 2014, 09:20:06 AM »
I want to know what the coldest temperature recorded is, according to you Flat Earthers. And jroa, this is not off topic. It has to do with the ice wall.
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Re: Coldest Temperature
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2014, 09:13:35 PM »
I don't see how the shape of the world changes the coldest recorded temp. It's whatever the coldest recorded temp is.

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Re: Coldest Temperature
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2014, 10:06:50 PM »
We have created a Bose Einstein Condensate so yeah. Pretty darn close to 0 K.

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ausGeoff

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Re: Coldest Temperature
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2014, 11:11:37 PM »
The lowest natural temperature ever directly recorded at ground level on earth was −89.2°C (−128.6 °F; 184.0 K), at the Soviet Vostok Station in Antarctica, on 21 July 1983.

Q1.   What is the lowest temperature claimed by the flat earthers beyond the most approachable rim of the ice wall?
Q2.   Has any human been known to travel beyond the rim of the ice wall?
Q3.   How was this temperature determined (if no human has ever travelled to that point)?
Q4.   Without any direct physical measurement, what scientific hypotheses/theories have been used to estimate this temperature?

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Re: Coldest Temperature
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2014, 01:28:54 PM »
I've asked four legitimate questions (above).

Q5.   Why has no flat earther responded with answers?
Q6.   Can I assume that no flat earther is able to answer these questions through a lack of knowledge?


Re: Coldest Temperature
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2014, 03:25:10 PM »
0K is the coolest temperature impossible to reach on earth naturaly (obviously) = -273.15°C

In laboratory, they reached less than 1K, but 0K = making a perfect crystal possible? I don't think so

Space is less than 1K but not 0K it's not a perfect empty space (few atoms per m^3)

And yeah the lowest temperature recorded is -89.2°C (that doesn't mean it was the lowest temperature ever on earth)

Re: Coldest Temperature
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2014, 06:16:37 AM »
it is impossible for anyone to achieve absolute zero even in a laboratory so definitely not that

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Re: Coldest Temperature
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2014, 06:48:55 AM »
Interesting to note that in this allegedly Flat earth Q&A forum wherein we're supposed to ask questions, none of the flat earthers have chosen to address mine.  Apart from Pongo's straw man answer of course LOL.

jroa is endlessly rabbiting on about keeping this forum solely for Q&A, but when any legitimate questions get asked, he and his mates disappear quicker than a snowball in hell.

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Re: Coldest Temperature
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2014, 05:16:59 AM »
I think no one is answering you because your question makes no sense. It's like asking what pi is on a flat-earth... It's still pi. I don't see how the shape of the earth changes anything.

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Re: Coldest Temperature
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2014, 09:13:16 AM »
I think no one is answering you because your question makes no sense. It's like asking what pi is on a flat-earth... It's still pi. I don't see how the shape of the earth changes anything.

Can you tell me specifically which of these questions makes "no sense" to you Pongo, and I'll enedeavour to clarify any issues you're apparently having understanding them...

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Q1.   What is the lowest temperature claimed by the flat earthers beyond the most approachable rim of the ice wall?
Q2.   Has any human been known to travel beyond the rim of the ice wall?
Q3.   How was this temperature determined (if no human has ever travelled to that point)?
Q4.   Without any direct physical measurement, what scientific hypotheses/theories have been used to estimate this temperature?

Additionally. can I assume that your claim that you don't see that "the shape of the earth changes anything"  means that you're also saying that the earth could possibly be spherical?  In one breath you're claiming that the topography and the geometry of the alleged flat earth and that of the spherical earth are vastly different.  In the next breath you're now saying that they could be the same, as it wouldn't make any differences to our perceptions of the planet and the skies etc.

—Or are you confused maybe?

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Re: Coldest Temperature
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2014, 09:16:25 AM »
All we can go by is what the Satanists at NASA tell us is the coldest recorded temperature.  As Pongo stated, though, this means nothing as to the shape of the Earth, only to what extent we can measure nature on Earth. 

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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2014, 09:29:32 AM »
All we can go by is what the Satanists at NASA tell us is the coldest recorded temperature.  As Pongo stated, though, this means nothing as to the shape of the Earth, only to what extent we can measure nature on Earth.
Why just NASA, find out about other organisations.

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Son of Orospu

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Re: Coldest Temperature
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2014, 09:36:31 AM »
All we can go by is what the Satanists at NASA tell us is the coldest recorded temperature.  As Pongo stated, though, this means nothing as to the shape of the Earth, only to what extent we can measure nature on Earth.
Why just NASA, find out about other organisations.

Once again, what difference does it make?  How does it prove the shape of the Earth? 

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ausGeoff

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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2014, 11:38:39 AM »
All we can go by is what the Satanists at NASA tell us is the coldest recorded temperature.  As Pongo stated, though, this means nothing as to the shape of the Earth, only to what extent we can measure nature on Earth.

Are you now claiming that NASA agents managed to secretly infiltrate the Soviet's Vostok Station in Antarctica where the record lowest temperature was recorded, and manipulate the results without the Soviet's knowledge?

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Re: Coldest Temperature
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2014, 11:40:11 AM »
Are you claiming that NASA has no connections to Russia? 

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ausGeoff

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Re: Coldest Temperature
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2014, 12:37:14 PM »
Are you claiming that NASA has no connections to Russia?

Yet another strawman intended to avoid answering the question LOL...

Yes, I am.  So are you still going to claim that NASA agents managed to secretly infiltrate the Soviet's Vostok Station in Antarctica where the lowest temperature was recorded, and manipulate the results without the Soviets knowing?

Yes or no?

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Re: Coldest Temperature
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2014, 12:41:19 PM »
So... NASA and Russia have no connections then, am I right in interpreting your post? 

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ausGeoff

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« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2014, 01:30:04 PM »
So... NASA and Russia have no connections then, am I right in interpreting your post?

Yes, you are jroa.  In fact, the USA and Russia (USSR) have—obviously—been at one another's throats for decades now.

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« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2014, 04:15:33 AM »
So... NASA and Russia have no connections then, am I right in interpreting your post?

Yes, you are jroa.  In fact, the USA and Russia (USSR) have—obviously—been at one another's throats for decades now.

Kind of funny how the USA and the USSR claimed to make joint space missions as far back as the 70s.  Who knows just how far back it goes, though. 

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« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2014, 10:36:38 AM »
Kind of funny how the USA and the USSR claimed to make joint space missions as far back as the 70s.  Who knows just how far back it goes, though.

This claim is perfectly true.  In fact it's the Russians who now replenish the jointly-shared ISS with the USA.

The Cold War officially ended in 1991, although the Apollo-Soyuz Test Project was carried out as early as July 1975, and was the first joint US-USSR  space flight.  If you really think that the US and Russia are now sharing all their technological, political, astronautical and military data, then you're sadly misinformed—or politically naive.

One only has to look at the current Eastern Ukraine separatist situation (fuelled by Russia) and the increasing presence of US warships in the Black Sea to understand that both countries are still very much at each others' throats.

You stated earlier in this thread that:  "All we can go by is what the Satanists at NASA tell us is the coldest recorded temperature".

Can you now specifically define what subversive agency or political organisation you're referring to as "satanists"?  I can only assume you mean Putin's FSS (successor to the KGB)?  And at any rate, why would misinformation about the coldest recorded temperature on earth have any practical or advantageous bearing on the US's or Russia's politics? 

It's just a temperature; nothing more, nothing less.

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Re: Coldest Temperature
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2014, 05:03:38 AM »
Can you now specifically define what subversive agency or political organisation you're referring to as "satanists"?  I can only assume you mean Putin's FSS (successor to the KGB)?  And at any rate, why would misinformation about the coldest recorded temperature on earth have any practical or advantageous bearing on the US's or Russia's politics?

Satanists can be in any organization; however, here, I am specifically referring to the satanists who are part of the conspiracy and their satanic NASA henchmen. 

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Re: Coldest Temperature
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2014, 07:11:41 AM »







No connection at all......   ::) ::) ::)
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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2014, 07:16:09 AM »
Satanists can be in any organization; however, here, I am specifically referring to the satanists who are part of the conspiracy and their satanic NASA henchmen.

Q1.   Can you please define what sort of entity you mean by the term "satanist"?  I use the term to refer to an imaginary, supernatural entity with evil intent, but with no influence on the real world or reality.

Q2.   Can you explain how you—personally—recognise a so-called satanist from a "normal" human being?  What distinguishing feature(s) make it obvious to you from a purely observational perspective?


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Re: Coldest Temperature
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2014, 07:31:24 AM »
   



No connection at all......   

These two images are only a couple of the hundreds that show various astronauts of both the USA and Russia who are part of the joint ISS venture between the two countries.  Apparently you're unaware that the Russians occupy and service one half of the ISS, and the Americans the other half?

Q1.   Are you suggesting that simply because a Russian cosmonaut and an American astronaut are photographed together that they're involved in some sort of conspiracy?

Q2.   What specific evidence are you referring to in these two images that indicates any alleged conspiracy?



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Re: Coldest Temperature
« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2014, 10:31:10 PM »
And so another thread dies simply because no flat earther is able to answer a few round earther's questions.

This Q&A forum should be renamed to the "Unanswered RE Questions" forum LOL.