Satellites and the Internet ?

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robintex

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Satellites and the Internet ?
« on: October 24, 2014, 06:29:27 PM »
I suppose fe will counter this with the explanation the reason that ausGeoff or anyone in any part of the earth can post on this website on the internet is because of those invisible ballooon stratellites ?


http://www.lamit.ro/satellite-coverage-maps.htm
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Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2014, 06:56:42 PM »
Now I can see why some people are worried about the world running out of helium.That would take just a few balloons.

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Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2014, 04:42:39 AM »
I suppose fe will counter this with the explanation the reason that ausGeoff or anyone in any part of the earth can post on this website on the internet is because of those invisible balloon stratellites ?


Dunno... I'm using carrier pigeons at the moment.  8GB per bird per day.  Plus all the bird seed they can eat.

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Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2014, 05:01:01 AM »
Data cannot be sent by ground based transmitters? 

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Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2014, 05:32:46 AM »
Data cannot be sent by ground based transmitters?

Yes, of course it can.  (And you really should be aware of that jroa.)

But that's like saying because I can drive my car from Melbourne to Sydney that aircraft don't exist.  We use the most technologically advanced methods to get jobs done in the most expedient way.  Which is why we use satellites for data transmission rather than carrier pigeons.

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Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2014, 06:03:34 AM »
Why would it be more expedient to send a radio signal into space, and have a floating trash can send it back down to Earth, instead of just sending the signal from one antenna to another? 

Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2014, 06:27:12 AM »
Why would it be more expedient to send a radio signal into space, and have a floating trash can send it back down to Earth, instead of just sending the signal from one antenna to another?
Because you'd need a grid of, for example, at least one 1,000-ft high antenna tower every 100 miles or so to get full coverage, and more than that if there is significant topography and in built-up areas. And equipment for each of these. And maintenance and coordination. Trade off spacing for tower height as needed. Satellites are cheaper; that's why they're used.
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Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2014, 07:19:23 AM »
Why would it be more expedient to send a radio signal into space, and have a floating trash can send it back down to Earth, instead of just sending the signal from one antenna to another?
Because it works.  You still fail to explain the angles of satellite dishes.

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Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2014, 08:46:14 AM »
Data cannot be sent by ground based transmitters?

Yes, of course it can.  (And you really should be aware of that jroa.)

But that's like saying because I can drive my car from Melbourne to Sydney that aircraft don't exist.  We use the most technologically advanced methods to get jobs done in the most expedient way.  Which is why we use satellites for data transmission rather than carrier pigeons.
Unless you live in a remote location, fiber optic cables are generally far more expedient for long distance data transmission than satellites or radio towers.
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Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2014, 09:02:52 AM »
Data cannot be sent by ground based transmitters?

Yes, of course it can.  (And you really should be aware of that jroa.)

But that's like saying because I can drive my car from Melbourne to Sydney that aircraft don't exist.  We use the most technologically advanced methods to get jobs done in the most expedient way.  Which is why we use satellites for data transmission rather than carrier pigeons.
Unless you live in a remote location, fiber optic cables are generally far more expedient for long distance data transmission than satellites or radio towers.
Satellites are ideal for multichannel broadcast tv and, of course, GPS.

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Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2014, 10:00:03 AM »
Data cannot be sent by ground based transmitters?

Yes, of course it can.  (And you really should be aware of that jroa.)

But that's like saying because I can drive my car from Melbourne to Sydney that aircraft don't exist.  We use the most technologically advanced methods to get jobs done in the most expedient way.  Which is why we use satellites for data transmission rather than carrier pigeons.
Unless you live in a remote location, fiber optic cables are generally far more expedient for long distance data transmission than satellites or radio towers.
Satellites are ideal for multichannel broadcast tv and, of course, GPS.
Fiber optics have far greater bandwidth and capacity.
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Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2014, 10:03:06 AM »
Data cannot be sent by ground based transmitters?

Yes, of course it can.  (And you really should be aware of that jroa.)

But that's like saying because I can drive my car from Melbourne to Sydney that aircraft don't exist.  We use the most technologically advanced methods to get jobs done in the most expedient way.  Which is why we use satellites for data transmission rather than carrier pigeons.
Unless you live in a remote location, fiber optic cables are generally far more expedient for long distance data transmission than satellites or radio towers.
Satellites are ideal for multichannel broadcast tv and, of course, GPS.
Fiber optics have far greater bandwidth and capacity.
That is not relevant to the discussion, millions of people receive TV from satellites and use GPS.

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Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2014, 11:50:38 AM »
Data cannot be sent by ground based transmitters?

Yes, of course it can.  (And you really should be aware of that jroa.)

But that's like saying because I can drive my car from Melbourne to Sydney that aircraft don't exist.  We use the most technologically advanced methods to get jobs done in the most expedient way.  Which is why we use satellites for data transmission rather than carrier pigeons.
Unless you live in a remote location, fiber optic cables are generally far more expedient for long distance data transmission than satellites or radio towers.
Satellites are ideal for multichannel broadcast tv and, of course, GPS.
Fiber optics have far greater bandwidth and capacity.
That is not relevant to the discussion, millions of people receive TV from satellites and use GPS.

Here is how data communications travel about the earth:



Must be a fake, eh? Everyone knows the internet uses satellites!
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Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2014, 12:01:51 PM »
Legion: I think the concept of WiFi is a myth perpetuated by Linksys. The other day I looked at the back of my computer and I saw this:



Clearly this is how my computer gets the internet. There is no such thing as WiFi.

Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2014, 12:21:07 PM »
Legion, we know about cables under the sea.  We also know how satellites are used for communication.  Like with all the dishes on the sides of houses and GPS navigation that works in the middle of the oceans.

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Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2014, 02:23:22 PM »
Legion: I think the concept of WiFi is a myth perpetuated by Linksys. The other day I looked at the back of my computer and I saw this:



Clearly this is how my computer gets the internet. There is no such thing as WiFi.

You don't believe that WiFi exists? Perhaps you should start a new topic about your discovery.
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Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2014, 03:35:03 PM »
Thanks for the tips, guv and ausGeoff. I think I'll invest in some stocks in bird feed and helium.
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Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2014, 03:52:41 PM »
Data cannot be sent by ground based transmitters?

Yes, of course it can.  (And you really should be aware of that jroa.)

But that's like saying because I can drive my car from Melbourne to Sydney that aircraft don't exist.  We use the most technologically advanced methods to get jobs done in the most expedient way.  Which is why we use satellites for data transmission rather than carrier pigeons.
Unless you live in a remote location, fiber optic cables are generally far more expedient for long distance data transmission than satellites or radio towers.
Satellites are ideal for multichannel broadcast tv and, of course, GPS.
Fiber optics have far greater bandwidth and capacity.
That is not relevant to the discussion, millions of people receive TV from satellites and use GPS.
Incorrect.  If you read the title of the thread, you'll see that it's about satellites and the internet.  This means that TV and GPS are not relevant to this discussion.
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Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2014, 04:21:46 PM »
And internet access on ships in the middle of oceans, plus general communication uses satellites. This has been discussed before with links to equipment manufacturers.

Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2014, 08:05:31 PM »
I think I know where the submarine cable comes up on my island. I shall take a picture of it this week.
(just talking to myself XD)

Here's an interactive version of the map

http://www.submarinecablemap.com/
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Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2014, 12:33:53 AM »
And internet access on ships in the middle of oceans.....

The big ships now have a giant roll of fibre optic cable on their aft decks, which unrolls as the ship travels across the ocean.  On the return journey, they simple roll it up again to use next time.

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Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2014, 06:03:09 AM »
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Why can't we see those city night lights on the (supposed) live stream? there's nothing but black when it's on the night side of earth.

Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2014, 11:10:46 AM »
And internet access on ships in the middle of oceans.....

The big ships now have a giant roll of fibre optic cable on their aft decks, which unrolls as the ship travels across the ocean.  On the return journey, they simple roll it up again to use next time.
They do this on planes as well now.  Though there have been problems with the cables snagging on buildings and bringing the whole plane crashing down to earth...
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Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2014, 11:46:01 AM »
The explanation for Satellites are about as nonsensical as carbon dating.

Satellites supposedly can stay in orbit traveling thousands of miles an hour with bursts of air simultaneously calculating their co-ordinates in space while estimating the positions of locations on a spinning ball. Wow that's some algorithm they must use!

With Carbon Dating, you can tell approximately how old a fossil is by where it's found in the geologic column. They know how old the layers in the Geologic column from doing carbon dating. Even though carbon dating is the most inaccurate dating tool they use. And sometimes fossils and petrified trees are going through multiple layers of the geologic column.
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Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2014, 01:13:45 PM »
I suppose fe will counter this with the explanation the reason that ausGeoff or anyone in any part of the earth can post on this website on the internet is because of those invisible ballooon stratellites ?


http://www.lamit.ro/satellite-coverage-maps.htm

Have you looked at how nonsensical the "footprints" are?

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Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2014, 01:35:24 PM »
I suppose fe will counter this with the explanation the reason that ausGeoff or anyone in any part of the earth can post on this website on the internet is because of those invisible ballooon stratellites ?


http://www.lamit.ro/satellite-coverage-maps.htm

Have you looked at how nonsensical the "footprints" are?
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Take us through why you think they are "nonsensical"?

You could then take me through how I accessed the internet from a plane at 35,000 feet over the Atlantic.
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Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2014, 01:43:06 PM »
I suppose fe will counter this with the explanation the reason that ausGeoff or anyone in any part of the earth can post on this website on the internet is because of those invisible ballooon stratellites ?


http://www.lamit.ro/satellite-coverage-maps.htm

Have you looked at how nonsensical the "footprints" are?
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Take us through why you think they are "nonsensical"?

You could then take me through how I accessed the internet from a plane at 35,000 feet over the Atlantic.

Why don't you tell me the details? These should include:

1. The airline.
2. How you connected to the internet.
3. What sites you visited.
4. What the connection speed was.
5. Any other pertinent information.
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Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2014, 01:47:11 PM »
I might provide you some details, first I want to check: are you seriously denying you can get internet access on aircraft now?
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Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2014, 01:49:54 PM »
Are you denying that the internet signals can be sent antenna to antenna? 

Re: Satellites and the Internet ?
« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2014, 01:53:38 PM »
Are you denying that the internet signals can be sent antenna to antenna?
*yawn* seriously - do you never get bored with this shtick?  Come up with something new.

I am denying you can receive a ground based signal whilst flying over the Atlantic at 35,000 ft.
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