Solar flares and CMEs

If the sun is so small and so close to the earth, why do solar flares and coronal mass ejections never have a localized effect on the earth?

That stuff can knock out the power over large areas.

No, he means, "Why don't we see massive tendrils of superheated plasmas screaming down from the sun and destroying entire swaths of land, and bathing the surface of the earth in scathing radiation?"

Well that too, but I actually was referring to the electromagnetic effects which can be felt throughout the world

I believe that flat earth theory claims the sun and the moon to both be 32 miles in diameter and around 3,000 miles above the earth's surface.

If that's correct (as I remember it) then it makes it difficult to see how solar flares could even exist sufficient to affect the earth.  We need someone to explain what the (flat earth) sun is actually composed of, and why its energy hasn't yet totally dissipated over millions of years—seeing as it's so small.

I asked the same damn question and no one answered me. No one.

I asked the same damn question and no one answered me. No one.

And once again the flat earthers have chosen to avoid a question they're unable to answer.

This sort of repeated avoidance is one of the main reasons that many people see these forums as nothing more than a running joke perpetuated by a few die-hard alleged flat earthers.

So... c'mon flat earthers.  What exactly is your sun composed of, and where does its virtually inexhaustible source of energy come from?

My personal opinion is that the sun is made of phlogiston. 

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/456974/phlogiston

My personal opinion is that the sun is made of phlogiston. 

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/456974/phlogiston

What, pure phlogiston?

By the way, do you think the photos of the sun, such as this, are fake?

Quote from: jroa on August 30, 2014, 07:16:18 AM

My personal opinion is that the sun is made of phlogiston. 

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/456974/phlogiston

What, pure phlogiston?

By the way, do you think the photos of the sun, such as this, are fake?

He will use a "digital editor analyzer" that he said is unreliable to debunk it.

Quote from: Blacksmith on August 28, 2014, 01:53:07 PM

I asked the same damn question and no one answered me. No one.

And once again the flat earthers have chosen to avoid a question they're unable to answer.

This sort of repeated avoidance is one of the main reasons that many people see these forums as nothing more than a running joke perpetuated by a few die-hard alleged flat earthers.

So... c'mon flat earthers.  What exactly is your sun composed of, and where does its virtually inexhaustible source of energy come from?

That's right, I have not got a clue what the sun is composed of,  according to the information centre where your information given to you comes from its 150,000,000km away. How could I know the composition I don't have the ability to go there and do the research to be peer reviewed .What a question.  Nobody has been there.
Are you ok?

That's right, I have not got a clue what the sun is composed of,  according to the information centre where your information given to you comes from its 150,000,000km away. How could I know the composition I don't have the ability to go there and do the research to be peer reviewed .What a question.  Nobody has been there.

Have you ever heard of spectral analysis? Any kind of it?

That's right, I have not got a clue what the sun is composed of...

Thank you for admitting that you have NO idea of its composition.  This indicates to me that you have some sort of reading dysfunction, as it's long been determined by scientists to be composed mostly of the elements hydrogen (H) and helium (He). By mass the composition of the sun is 75% hydrogen and 25%. Various other metals make up less than 0.1% of the mass of the sun.  The temperature of the sun’s surface is about 10,340ºF (5,726ºC).

This is an image of a spectral analysis as referred to by Macpie and JimmyTheCrab:




If you truly believe that you have to personally travel to the sun in order to determine its composition, then you're working at the educational level of a 5-year-old child LOL.  Which is why I can only assume that you're joking.

tapped suffers from severe erectile dysfunction. This causes him permanent brain damage so he is unable to read and understand. We should all feel sorry for him.

He will use a "digital editor analyzer" that he said is unreliable to debunk it.

I think you are mixing me up with some other flat Earther. 

Quote from: tappet on August 30, 2014, 04:55:14 PM

That's right, I have not got a clue what the sun is composed of...

Thank you for admitting that you have NO idea of its composition.  This indicates to me that you have some sort of reading dysfunction, as it's long been determined by scientists to be composed mostly of the elements hydrogen (H) and helium (He). By mass the composition of the sun is 75% hydrogen and 25%. Various other metals make up less than 0.1% of the mass of the sun.  The temperature of the sun’s surface is about 10,340ºF (5,726ºC).

This is an image of a spectral analysis as referred to by Macpie and JimmyTheCrab:

If you truly believe that you have to personally travel to the sun in order to determine its composition, then you're working at the educational level of a 5-year-old child LOL.  Which is why I can only assume that you're joking.

You guys are hilarious.
You look at some colours from something you reckon is 150,000,000km away although you can not really check the distance to be sure and you reckon you know what its made of.
This is not a fishing story forum!

Sorry you do not believe that spectral analysis is viable but it has been in practice for 100s of years and is applied to many fields in chemistry and astronomy on the regular. Perhaps you should learn about prism's and their history then rethink why you find it laughable.

You look at some colours from something you reckon is 150,000,000km away although you can not really check the distance to be sure and you reckon you know what its made of.

You are making yourself look even sillier than usual.  Spectral analysis is an entire field of science, which has been around for 350 years.  It is used millions of times a day in labs all over the world for thousands of different applications.

You are not going to debunk it by going "lol, it dont work" and waving your hands around.

Quote from: tappet on August 31, 2014, 03:27:07 PM

You look at some colours from something you reckon is 150,000,000km away although you can not really check the distance to be sure and you reckon you know what its made of.

You are making yourself look even sillier than usual.  Spectral analysis is an entire field of science, which has been around for 350 years.  It is used millions of times a day in labs all over the world for thousands of different applications.

You are not going to debunk it by going "lol, it dont work" and waving your hands around.

No, my problem is the distance.
I don't believe you can be sure of anything if you think your looking at something 150,000,000km away.

No, my problem is the distance.
I don't believe you can be sure of anything if you think your looking at something 150,000,000km away.

Why?

No, my problem is the distance.
I don't believe you can be sure of anything if you think your looking at something 150,000,000km away.

Nope.  Your "problem" is failing to grasp how 21st-century science works.  Do you truly believe that astronomers just "look" at some planetary or stellar body and guesstimate its distance from earth?  Seriously? 

I suggest you check out THIS site from the Goddard Space Flight Center.

When I read the first line in the second paragraph of your link I stopped reading.
"A house of cards" really?

When I read the first line in the second paragraph of your link I stopped reading.
"A house of cards" really?

I can see why real science baffles you if a simple metaphor makes the rest of the article unreadable to you.

You've willfully ignored the entire thrust of the discussion because of an apparent lack of understanding of the English language.  Oh dear.

One can only assume that you're a believer—and a practitioner—of the old adage;  "Ignorance is bliss".  Well done.

I believe that flat earth theory claims the sun and the moon to both be 32 miles in diameter and around 3,000 miles above the earth's surface.

If that's correct (as I remember it) then it makes it difficult to see how solar flares could even exist sufficient to affect the earth.  We need someone to explain what the (flat earth) sun is actually composed of, and why its energy hasn't yet totally dissipated over millions of years—seeing as it's so small.

Quote from: Parsifal on December 10, 2011, 05:39:37 AM ---The FE sun is a quark-gluon plasma, containing equal amounts of quarks and anti-quarks. Its energy is derived from the mutual annihilation of said quarks and anti-quarks, and the rate of this reaction is regulated by the strong force.

Quote from: Parsifal on December 10, 2011, 05:39:37 AM ---The FE sun is a quark-gluon plasma, containing equal amounts of quarks and anti-quarks. Its energy is derived from the mutual annihilation of said quarks and anti-quarks, and the rate of this reaction is regulated by the strong force.

Yes, we've been there before. It seems like we got exactly zero proof for what he claimed.

Quote from: Parsifal on December 10, 2011, 05:39:37 AM ---The FE sun is a quark-gluon plasma, containing equal amounts of quarks and anti-quarks. Its energy is derived from the mutual annihilation of said quarks and anti-quarks, and the rate of this reaction is regulated by the strong force.

And this is the sort of nonsensical, pseudo-scientific drivel that the flat earthers propose as one of the interpretations of their flat earth solar system?

In Wagner's opera of the same name, Parsifal is described as a young man who is a “pure fool”.

—I rest my case m'lud.