Hey Macpie and General Patton. Don't get frustrated. If you have been on this website very long you will get used to jroa's behavior when he - or any other FE - is backed into a corner. It's one of the attractions for "Round Earthers" to see what kind of nonsense the "Flat Earthers" are going to come up with next, so don't expect any results if you ask them simple questions.