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Do you really think this is over?

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Voting closed: November 06, 2006, 08:05:11 PM

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TheDerangedWang

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« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2006, 06:19:06 PM »
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BOGWarrior89

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« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2006, 06:23:47 PM »
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...ask him to prove centrifugal force is a lie...


CLICK ON IT.  It's a link for a reason.
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TheDerangedWang

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« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2006, 06:31:20 PM »
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BOGWarrior89

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« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2006, 06:34:28 PM »
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...ask him to prove centrifugal force is a lie...


CLICK ON IT.  It's a link for a reason.


i did, i remain unconvinced despite the shockingly undeniable facts that my eyes are seeing. I refuse to believe anything you say is real and in fact assert that you are in fact a badger....prove me wrong..dude...its a cartoon


Cartoon or not, it's correct.  What you feel is your inertia; your "unwanting" to turn.  Centripetal force is what keeps you in circular motion, whether uniform or non-uniform.
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« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2006, 06:34:32 PM »
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Only if it was spinning really fast - if it was a very slow spin it would be hardly noticeable.


Prove the earth is spinning slow....


I'm not saying that it's the case - just that it could be an alternative explanation for the results of the pendulum observations.
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TheDerangedWang

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« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2006, 06:37:39 PM »
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Only if it was spinning really fast - if it was a very slow spin it would be hardly noticeable.


Prove the earth is spinning slow....


I'm not saying that it's the case - just that it could be an alternative explanation for the results of the pendulum observations.


ok, but what proof is there that that is even a possibility? Why search for an alternative when 1 solution fits pefectly???...why look for nuclear power when oil is oozing into your living room?..like the oil crisis now, alternate sources of energy only thrive when oil doesnt, alterante theories only arise whenone doest fit....in a re earth, it fits
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« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2006, 06:40:21 PM »
But it was claimed to be definite proof that the Earth is round and clearly if an alternative theory exists then that's not the case.  I wasn't trying to show that it was likely alternative, just that this experiment doesn't achieve what it is claimed to achieve.
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EnragedPenguin

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« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2006, 06:44:59 PM »
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Why look for nuclear power when oil is oozing into your living room?


You don't need to look for nuclear power if oil is oozing into your living room. But you can't claim that oil is the only solution to the problem, just because it seems to fit.
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TheDerangedWang

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« Reply #38 on: November 09, 2006, 05:27:09 AM »
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Why look for nuclear power when oil is oozing into your living room?


You don't need to look for nuclear power if oil is oozing into your living room. But you can't claim that oil is the only solution to the problem, just because it seems to fit.


it doesnt seem to fit, it does fit, there isnt a problem that arises from the RE theory, compare that to an ice wall. There are many questions that confront the FE theory where FE's struggle to explain with unproven assumptions
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EnragedPenguin

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« Reply #39 on: November 09, 2006, 07:31:44 AM »
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it doesnt seem to fit, it does fit, there isnt a problem that arises from the RE theory.


That, in and of itself, does not validate the theory.

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There are many questions that confront the FE theory where FE's struggle to explain with unproven assumptions


The only assumption any of our explanations make, is that Earth is flat.
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BOGWarrior89

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« Reply #40 on: November 09, 2006, 08:12:43 AM »
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it doesnt seem to fit, it does fit, there isnt a problem that arises from the RE theory.


That, in and of itself, does not validate the theory.


Correct, but that just means other, more contraversial issues will be the focus point of mainstream science, leaving FE and RE debates for people ...
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« Reply #41 on: November 09, 2006, 09:50:32 AM »
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The only assumption any of our explanations make, is that Earth is flat.


Incorrect. I could give you several .

Satellites don't exist.
Scientists lie to us.
There's a conspiracy.
Nasa pictures are fake

etc. etc.
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Erasmus

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« Reply #42 on: November 09, 2006, 10:46:21 AM »
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The only assumption any of our explanations make, is that Earth is flat.


Incorrect. I could give you several .

Satellites don't exist.
Scientists lie to us.
There's a conspiracy.
Nasa pictures are fake


At this point you're basically a liar.
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BOGWarrior89

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« Reply #43 on: November 09, 2006, 10:49:07 AM »
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The only assumption any of our explanations make, is that Earth is flat.


Incorrect. I could give you several .

Satellites don't exist.
Scientists lie to us.
There's a conspiracy.
Nasa pictures are fake


At this point you're basically a liar.


I'm surprised you could decipher what either one was trying to say.
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Space_Maze

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« Reply #44 on: November 09, 2006, 03:06:10 PM »
Heh .. this is awesome.

Just today, in my university physics class, we did the Foucault pendulum experiment. Calculated the speed of its "turning" from out geographical latitude. Under the assumption that the earth is round :p .. and oddly enough, our calculations turned out to be correct - GEE, HOW DID THAT WORK???

And I was thinking .. geeze, I wonder what the FE crowd would say about all this ..  :roll:

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And I'm asking - isn't it possible that you could get similar results if the flat Earth was spinning - maybe even spinning and rotating.  Obviously only enough that it would change how a pendulum spins but not so it would send us flying off into space because that's what we observe.


It is, of course, possible that a flat earth was spinning.

It is NOT however possible though that the outside of a plate is spinning in the opposite direction that the inside of the plate is spinning in. If you do the experiment in the nothern hemisphere, it spins clockwise. In the southern hemisphere, it spins counter-clockwise.

Either everyone that's done a physics class in the southern hemisphere is lying .. or this is simply uncompatible with the flat earth "theory".
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« Reply #45 on: November 09, 2006, 03:53:42 PM »
Quote from: "Space_Maze"
Heh .. this is awesome.

Just today, in my university physics class, we did the Foucault pendulum experiment. Calculated the speed of its "turning" from out geographical latitude. Under the assumption that the earth is round :p .. and oddly enough, our calculations turned out to be correct - GEE, HOW DID THAT WORK???

And I was thinking .. geeze, I wonder what the FE crowd would say about all this ..  :roll:

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And I'm asking - isn't it possible that you could get similar results if the flat Earth was spinning - maybe even spinning and rotating.  Obviously only enough that it would change how a pendulum spins but not so it would send us flying off into space because that's what we observe.


It is, of course, possible that a flat earth was spinning.

It is NOT however possible though that the outside of a plate is spinning in the opposite direction that the inside of the plate is spinning in. If you do the experiment in the nothern hemisphere, it spins clockwise. In the southern hemisphere, it spins counter-clockwise.

Either everyone that's done a physics class in the southern hemisphere is lying .. or this is simply uncompatible with the flat earth "theory".


Or maybe everybody in the Northern Hemisphere is lying.
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phaseshifter

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« Reply #46 on: November 09, 2006, 08:46:22 PM »
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Heh .. this is awesome.

Just today, in my university physics class, we did the Foucault pendulum experiment. Calculated the speed of its "turning" from out geographical latitude. Under the assumption that the earth is round :p .. and oddly enough, our calculations turned out to be correct - GEE, HOW DID THAT WORK???

And I was thinking .. geeze, I wonder what the FE crowd would say about all this ..  :roll:

Quote from: "beast"
And I'm asking - isn't it possible that you could get similar results if the flat Earth was spinning - maybe even spinning and rotating.  Obviously only enough that it would change how a pendulum spins but not so it would send us flying off into space because that's what we observe.


It is, of course, possible that a flat earth was spinning.

It is NOT however possible though that the outside of a plate is spinning in the opposite direction that the inside of the plate is spinning in. If you do the experiment in the nothern hemisphere, it spins clockwise. In the southern hemisphere, it spins counter-clockwise.

Either everyone that's done a physics class in the southern hemisphere is lying .. or this is simply uncompatible with the flat earth "theory".


Or maybe everybody in the Northern Hemisphere is lying.


Is that sarcasm?
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beast

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« Reply #47 on: November 09, 2006, 09:04:45 PM »
I just don't like the suggestion that it's the Southern Hemisphere people who are liars and not the Northern Hemisphere people.  From my perspective, I'd be much more prepared to believe that the Northern Hemisphere people are liars than the Southern.

People from the Northern Hemisphere:

Hitler, George W Bush, Stalin, PETA, Osama Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein.

People from the Southern Hemisphere:

David Boon, Bob Hawke, Nelson Mandela, Pele.

I rest my case.
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TheEngineer

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« Reply #48 on: November 09, 2006, 09:29:27 PM »
There's only like 25 people in the entire 'southern hemisphere', so that's not exactly a fair comparison.
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phaseshifter

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« Reply #49 on: November 09, 2006, 09:31:35 PM »
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I just don't like the suggestion that it's the Southern Hemisphere people who are liars and not the Northern Hemisphere people.  From my perspective, I'd be much more prepared to believe that the Northern Hemisphere people are liars than the Southern.

People from the Northern Hemisphere:

Hitler, George W Bush, Stalin, PETA, Osama Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein.

People from the Southern Hemisphere:

David Boon, Bob Hawke, Nelson Mandela, Pele.

I rest my case.


Why does there have to BE any liars?
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« Reply #50 on: November 09, 2006, 09:45:47 PM »
There doesn't - but if there were - it would be those from the Northern Hemisphere.   FACT.
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« Reply #51 on: November 09, 2006, 09:55:06 PM »
Jesus was from the northern hemisphere.  I rest my case.

P.S. Jesus outweighs anything good from the Southern Hemisphere :-)
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beast

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« Reply #52 on: November 09, 2006, 10:02:34 PM »
Only if you believe fictitious stories and refuse to accept reason and logic.
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BOGWarrior89

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« Reply #53 on: November 09, 2006, 11:04:41 PM »
Regions have nothing to do with lying.
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« Reply #54 on: November 10, 2006, 02:34:07 AM »
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Regions have nothing to do with lying.


Yes they do.  Religion is lies.
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Space_Maze

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« Reply #55 on: November 10, 2006, 07:38:06 AM »
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I just don't like the suggestion that it's the Southern Hemisphere people who are liars and not the Northern Hemisphere people.  From my perspective, I'd be much more prepared to believe that the Northern Hemisphere people are liars than the Southern.


But I wasn't suggesting that everyone in the southern hemisphere is lying. I was suggesting that FE "theory" is a great load of bollocks.

If you still continue to insist on a flat earth, it is the only option that remains open though. I know for a fact that everybody in the northern hemisphere is not lying, as I have executed this experiment myself - in the northern hemisphere. The pendulum turns clockwise.

I have yet to execute the experiment in the southern hemisphere.
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« Reply #56 on: November 10, 2006, 08:12:20 AM »
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There doesn't - but if there were - it would be those from the Northern Hemisphere.   FACT.

No, SPECULATION.

There is no way anyone would be able to convince the entire northern hemisphere to lie.

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Yes they do.  Religion is lies.

That we can agree on.
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« Reply #57 on: November 10, 2006, 08:27:49 AM »
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Regions have nothing to do with lying.


Yes they do.  Religion is lies.


Dyslexia much?  Region != Religion
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BOGWarrior89

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« Reply #58 on: November 10, 2006, 09:27:40 AM »
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Regions have nothing to do with lying.


Yes they do.  Religion is lies.


Dyslexia much?  Region != Religion


It would be scary if it did ...
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« Reply #59 on: November 10, 2006, 03:27:39 PM »
I'm sorry that was a bad joke.  You said that "Regions" have nothing to do with lies and since "Regions" makes up 78% of "Religion" (in terms of letters) - I was trying to infer that Region did have something to do with lies (because it's so similar to religion).  Pretty silly comment :P
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