Meteors and Comets

What are the explanation for meteors and comets?
Where do they come from?

I've seen shooting stars in person.  I've visited a few famous craters.  I remember seeing Hale-Bopp after astronomers predicted it's appearance far in advance.  I remember the news when that meteor got caught in Jupiters gravity and broke up and collided.

I'm just interested what the explanation is within the context of FE, UA, and glass dome.

Thanks.

What are the explanation for meteors and comets?
Where do they come from?

I've seen shooting stars in person.  I've visited a few famous craters.  I remember seeing Hale-Bopp after astronomers predicted it's appearance far in advance.  I remember the news when that meteor got caught in Jupiters gravity and broke up and collided.

I'm just interested what the explanation is within the context of FE, UA, and glass dome.

Thanks.

Ask sceptimatic.

Meteors and comets are just icicles falling off his ice dome.

The "ice dome" is a theory that is entertained by just a few of our members.  Please don't lump us all into the ice dome.  Thanks. 

The "ice dome" is a theory that is entertained by just a few of our members.  Please don't lump us all into the ice dome.  Thanks.

I cited this as being from sceptimatic. Thankfully you shouldn't lump sceptimatic into "us all."

This was just his explanation which I listed just in case he didn't come across on his own. No offense was intended to you personally, jroa. And even sceptimatic is entitled to  his own opinions..Whatever they may be. Just one example of an explanation FWIW.

What are the explanation for meteors and comets?
Where do they come from?

I've seen shooting stars in person.  I've visited a few famous craters.  I remember seeing Hale-Bopp after astronomers predicted it's appearance far in advance.  I remember the news when that meteor got caught in Jupiters gravity and broke up and collided.

I'm just interested what the explanation is within the context of FE, UA, and glass dome.

Thanks.

They are space particles that get to close to the atmolayer and fall towards the earth.  However, meteors never strike the surface.

Doesn't anyone find it odd that we never get hit by meteors, considering the crap they tell us about space?
We had the Tungusta one in 1908 I think and yet they couldn't find any evidence of a meteor at all, except for trees blown down.
So given that, is it possible that the meteor wasn't actually anything of the sort from space and was an ice build up that fell into the lower atmosphere and caused a shock wave after gaining in friction before disintegrating into nothing?

We get told time and time again about huge asteroid and what not, heading for Earth and some missing it by so many hundreds of thousands of miles, which we are told is extremely close.

No satellites get hit. the spacestation never gets hit, the Hubble never gets hit. None of the Apollo missions were hit, eitehr to the moon or on it, despite the moon supposedly being peppered to hell.
The missions to mars go without a hitch.
The probes sent billions of miles into space never encounter any hits.

So what's it to be? Is space not full of all this rock and tiny whizzing particles or are these man made craft built with space stone detection systems that take evasive action?

Is it possible that it's none of the above and meteors and comets are not what we are told and do not come from where we are told?
People wonder why this stuff is questioned. I say, it deserves questioning.

Those huge telescopes can see what the average astronomer bear can't. They can see what's in our high atmosphere and can predict ice falls from the dome.
They then tell us all that it's from space, which in effect, it is. It's from - A space in the higher atmosphere.

The reason we never get hit by meteors on the surface is that a meteor is defined as an object that burns up completely in the atmosphere. If it makes it to the surface we call it a meteorite. Nice bit of misdirection there jroa.

Tunguska was a meteor that exploded in the atmosphere. It would have had to have been moving very fast. I don't know how high your dome is supposed to be, but since you say that the atmosphere extends all the way up to it, I can't imagine that anything falling from it could build up enough speed to burn up and explode.

As for artificial satellites and probes never getting hit, I don't know for sure that's true. But space is very big, and spacecraft are small. Most objects in the path of an orbiting body were cleaned out of the orbit long ago. So collisions would be expected but very rare.

Perhaps something was stomping around on top of the dome and loosed some particles with a greater force?  I don't know the ice-dome theory well enough to speculate.  Is this possible Sceptimatic?

Perhaps something was stomping around on top of the dome and loosed some particles with a greater force?

I think giant goats are involved.

This is a serious thread Jimmy.  I would speculate that it could be greco-mythological titans or perhaps the moon's shrimp-like creatures, but goats?  What would they breath?  These would be unlike any goats I've ever seen.  So much so I'm not sure they could be classified as goats any longer.

We had the Tungusta one in 1908 I think and yet they couldn't find any evidence of a meteor at all, except for trees blown down.
So given that, is it possible that the meteor wasn't actually anything of the sort from space and was an ice build up that fell into the lower atmosphere and caused a shock wave after gaining in friction before disintegrating into nothing?

Jesus! You do live under a rock!

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And the hundreds of fragments people picked up that same day!

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=pieces+of+russian+meteorite

Not NASA "Conspiracy" scientist. Average people out of the thousands that witnessed the event.

Biggest chunk intact:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/16/russian_divers_salvage_huge_hunk_of_chelyabinsk_meteorite_from_lake/

They are space particles that get to close to the atmolayer and fall towards the earth.  However, meteors never strike the surface.

Correct! Because that would make them meteorites! Maybe that little piece of information wouldn't make you look like you're trying to derail a discussion with vague statements.

Here's one that hit a person after ricocheting.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/02/130220-russia-meteorite-ann-hodges-science-space-hit/

No satellites get hit. the spacestation never gets hit, the Hubble never gets hit. None of the Apollo missions were hit, eitehr to the moon or on it, despite the moon supposedly being peppered to hell.
The missions to mars go without a hitch.
The probes sent billions of miles into space never encounter any hits.

It is a real threat and unfortunately very likely. Luckily no serious damage was caused by larger sized objects than space dust. But even the dust itself is dangerous due to the extreme velocities something might be traveling relative to a satellite or astronaut. A bigger threat even is the sheer amount of man made debris also in orbit around the earth.

Perhaps something was stomping around on top of the dome and loosed some particles with a greater force?  I don't know the ice-dome theory well enough to speculate.  Is this possible Sceptimatic?

Outside of the dome is the end of all matter. The matter ends at the dome. The very last expanded matter freezes against a true vacuum. Nothing exists out side of it, to us. that doesn't mean that other Earth like cells don't exist against that true vacuum, it just means that us as organisms cannot see any further past the dome. All we can see, is what's reflected off the dome.

Everything we see is inside of this Earth cocoon. Nothing gets in and nothing gets out. It's a self sustaining cell that is massive to us but could be a speck to the man behind the microscope. Naturally I don't mean literally, I'm just saying that a bed bug seeing an elephant is like us looking up the empire state building and then some.

Quote from: Pongo on July 17, 2014, 12:06:29 PM

Perhaps something was stomping around on top of the dome and loosed some particles with a greater force?

I think giant goats are involved.

Are you being serious? How in the hell would giant goats manage to fabricate the boots needed to stamp on the dome? Be serious please as you know that goats are incapable of manufacturing army type boots that would be needed for the job.

Quote from: Pongo on July 17, 2014, 12:06:29 PM

Perhaps something was stomping around on top of the dome and loosed some particles with a greater force?  I don't know the ice-dome theory well enough to speculate.  Is this possible Sceptimatic?

Outside of the dome is the end of all matter. The matter ends at the dome. The very last expanded matter freezes against a true vacuum. Nothing exists out side of it, to us. that doesn't mean that other Earth like cells don't exist against that true vacuum, it just means that us as organisms cannot see any further past the dome. All we can see, is what's reflected off the dome.

Everything we see is inside of this Earth cocoon. Nothing gets in and nothing gets out. It's a self sustaining cell that is massive to us but could be a speck to the man behind the microscope. Naturally I don't mean literally, I'm just saying that a bed bug seeing an elephant is like us looking up the empire state building and then some.

If nothing gets in or out, what's preventing heat from the Sun building up and boiling us all to death? And melting the ice dome? If the Earth has been around for billions of years with the Sun shining the whole time, shouldn't we all be cooked by now?

This is a serious thread Jimmy.  I would speculate that it could be greco-mythological titans or perhaps the moon's shrimp-like creatures, but goats?  What would they breath?  These would be unlike any goats I've ever seen.  So much so I'm not sure they could be classified as goats any longer.

They looked like goats in my dream, that's all I'm sayin.

Quote from: Pongo on July 17, 2014, 12:11:59 PM

This is a serious thread Jimmy.  I would speculate that it could be greco-mythological titans or perhaps the moon's shrimp-like creatures, but goats?  What would they breath?  These would be unlike any goats I've ever seen.  So much so I'm not sure they could be classified as goats any longer.

They looked like goats in my dream, that's all I'm sayin.

If you don't have a flat Earth question or answer to provide, then please refrain from posting in the FE Q&A forum.  Thanks. 

If nothing gets in or out, what's preventing heat from the Sun building up and boiling us all to death? And melting the ice dome? If the Earth has been around for billions of years with the Sun shining the whole time, shouldn't we all be cooked by now?

The heat from the sun doesn't build up because the Earth has a cooling system, as in, ice and water, just like our bodies do.
Earth is a living cell. It'self sufficient just like we are and all other organisms, which all contribute to the Earth sustaining itself. However, it does become ill at times when bad bacteria, (probably us) attack it but it's immune system will always fight back.
Over time, thousands of years, the earth will go into hibernation to allow itself to rid itself of the bad stuff and replenish it's energy. Basically it will shrink after full expansion.

The ice dome doesn't melt because there's very little friction of atmosphere under the dome at the top, so it's simply being heat swept. You can call it Earth domes windown cleaner if you want to.

Scepti, I don't think you understand how heat works.

A cooling system? There are plenty of examples of cooling systems. Most easily, we can talk about examples with computing. There are fans and liquid cooling systems and so on. In any case, all these cooling systems require some sort of vent.

Scepti, I don't think you understand how heat works.

That's your opinion. Simply saying I don't is not proof I don't, unless you state why I don't.
Let me put it into a simple nutshell for you, as easy as pie.

Heat is the direct result of friction/vibration of matter/molecules/elements. It's that simple.

A cooling system? There are plenty of examples of cooling systems. Most easily, we can talk about examples with computing. There are fans and liquid cooling systems and so on. In any case, all these cooling systems require some sort of vent.

Or a condenser.

Quote from: rottingroom on July 18, 2014, 06:18:50 AM

A cooling system? There are plenty of examples of cooling systems. Most easily, we can talk about examples with computing. There are fans and liquid cooling systems and so on. In any case, all these cooling systems require some sort of vent.

Or a condenser.

So condensers don't need vents now?  How do you think they get rid of heat? 

Take a look at the back of your fridge.

The reason we never get hit by meteors on the surface is that a meteor is defined as an object that burns up completely in the atmosphere. If it makes it to the surface we call it a meteorite. Nice bit of misdirection there jroa.

Perhaps you could quote what I said that lead you to accuse me of misdirecting this thread?  That would be nice, because I am confused. 

Quote from: sceptimatic on July 18, 2014, 06:39:54 AM

Quote from: rottingroom on July 18, 2014, 06:18:50 AM

A cooling system? There are plenty of examples of cooling systems. Most easily, we can talk about examples with computing. There are fans and liquid cooling systems and so on. In any case, all these cooling systems require some sort of vent.

Or a condenser.

So condensers don't need vents now?  How do you think they get rid of heat? 

Take a look at the back of your fridge.

They get rid of heat by slowing down agitation of matter. That's how the Earth does it.

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on July 18, 2014, 07:20:04 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on July 18, 2014, 06:39:54 AM

Quote from: rottingroom on July 18, 2014, 06:18:50 AM

A cooling system? There are plenty of examples of cooling systems. Most easily, we can talk about examples with computing. There are fans and liquid cooling systems and so on. In any case, all these cooling systems require some sort of vent.

Or a condenser.

So condensers don't need vents now?  How do you think they get rid of heat? 

Take a look at the back of your fridge.

They get rid of heat by slowing down agitation of matter. That's how the Earth does it.

So slowing down the agitation of matter stops the production of heat but that doesn't answer the question.

Quote from: sceptimatic on July 18, 2014, 03:46:23 PM

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on July 18, 2014, 07:20:04 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on July 18, 2014, 06:39:54 AM

Quote from: rottingroom on July 18, 2014, 06:18:50 AM

A cooling system? There are plenty of examples of cooling systems. Most easily, we can talk about examples with computing. There are fans and liquid cooling systems and so on. In any case, all these cooling systems require some sort of vent.

Or a condenser.

So condensers don't need vents now?  How do you think they get rid of heat? 

Take a look at the back of your fridge.

They get rid of heat by slowing down agitation of matter. That's how the Earth does it.

So slowing down the agitation of matter stops the production of heat but that doesn't answer the question.

Heat is simply a measure of stored energy.

Quote from: rottingroom on July 18, 2014, 04:06:01 PM

Quote from: sceptimatic on July 18, 2014, 03:46:23 PM

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on July 18, 2014, 07:20:04 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on July 18, 2014, 06:39:54 AM

Quote from: rottingroom on July 18, 2014, 06:18:50 AM

A cooling system? There are plenty of examples of cooling systems. Most easily, we can talk about examples with computing. There are fans and liquid cooling systems and so on. In any case, all these cooling systems require some sort of vent.

Or a condenser.

So condensers don't need vents now?  How do you think they get rid of heat? 

Take a look at the back of your fridge.

They get rid of heat by slowing down agitation of matter. That's how the Earth does it.

So slowing down the agitation of matter stops the production of heat but that doesn't answer the question.

Heat is simply a measure of store energy.

Thank you for the definition. I'm not sure what your point is.

I fixed my typo. 

Oh good. That somehow made it more relevant.

Quote from: sceptimatic on July 18, 2014, 03:46:23 PM

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on July 18, 2014, 07:20:04 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on July 18, 2014, 06:39:54 AM

Quote from: rottingroom on July 18, 2014, 06:18:50 AM

A cooling system? There are plenty of examples of cooling systems. Most easily, we can talk about examples with computing. There are fans and liquid cooling systems and so on. In any case, all these cooling systems require some sort of vent.

Or a condenser.

So condensers don't need vents now?  How do you think they get rid of heat? 

Take a look at the back of your fridge.

They get rid of heat by slowing down agitation of matter. That's how the Earth does it.

So slowing down the agitation of matter stops the production of heat but that doesn't answer the question.

It answers the question perfectly well. What are you having trouble with?