A glass dome in the sky is a dumb idea and most people should and do know better

Not every true statement is a straw man.  You seem to hide behind that term.  Does it make you feel better to accuse me of a straw man fallacy, or maybe it is just your way of backing out of a debate?  You tell me. 

I have never implied that one could not be earnest in a documentary, to say so is a straw man by definition.  I have claimed that the specific people appearing in this film are not actually FEers, and have provided evidence to support it.

Yeah, because anyone who says something you don't like is just acting like they believe it. 

Yeah, because anyone who says something you don't like is just acting like they believe it. 

What?  No.  You have provided no evidence supporting the earnestness of the people in that film while I have provided evidence they were not earnest.  Evidence wins.  This could not be much clearer.

Not every true statement is a straw man.  You seem to hide behind that term.  Does it make you feel better to accuse me of a straw man fallacy, or maybe it is just your way of backing out of a debate?  You tell me.

Has your therapist ever described your personality as "passive-aggressive" jroa?  Serious question in light of this comment.

Why would I be seeing a therapist?  Only people who are messed up in the head need a therapist. 

Why would I be seeing a therapist?  Only people who are messed up in the head need a therapist.

It just seems from every American TV program we see downunder that you all appear to have a regular therapist of some sort.  Every person on US talk shows seems to refer to "their therapist".

I'm sorry if you inferred I was implying you were "messed up in the head"; that wasn't my intention.  I was interested only in your "passive-aggressive" response—which style you quite often use here.

I only pay to visit with prostitutes.  Sometimes I even talk to them and tell them about my problems. 

Quote from: jroa on July 18, 2014, 09:56:52 PM

Yeah, because anyone who says something you don't like is just acting like they believe it. 

What?  No.  You have provided no evidence supporting the earnestness of the people in that film while I have provided evidence they were not earnest.  Evidence wins.  This could not be much clearer.

I provided their credentials.  Perhaps that is not good enough for you, but don't pretend that I have not provided any evidence. 

Truth is, neither of us can read their thoughts or even pretend to know the motives for the statements they made.  We can only either believe they were telling the truth, or we can choose to believe they were lying. 

Quote from: Rama Set on July 18, 2014, 10:00:39 PM

Quote from: jroa on July 18, 2014, 09:56:52 PM

Yeah, because anyone who says something you don't like is just acting like they believe it. 

What?  No.  You have provided no evidence supporting the earnestness of the people in that film while I have provided evidence they were not earnest.  Evidence wins.  This could not be much clearer.

I provided their credentials.  Perhaps that is not good enough for you, but don't pretend that I have not provided any evidence. 

Truth is, neither of us can read their thoughts or even pretend to know the motives for the statements they made.  We can only either believe they were telling the truth, or we can choose to believe they were lying.

Their credentials are irrelevant to the conversation we are having. Sorry I burst your bubble, it must feel awful.

When the conversation is about them, and I provide their credentials, how is that irrelevant? 

When the conversation is about them, and I provide their credentials, how is that irrelevant?

Because nobody is having a problem with their credentials. Maybe they are scientists or some kind of authority, maybe not. The discussion hasn't been about that, it has been about whether or not they are actually FE'rs, which Rama presented evidence against.