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markjo

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Re: Winds~
« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2014, 10:16:45 AM »
Shush you.  I'm trying to illustrate a point.
That you're almost as bad a mod as jroa?  Point taken. ;)
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Pongo

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« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2014, 10:21:06 AM »
No, you have missed the point entirely.

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markjo

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« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2014, 11:12:28 AM »
Do you mean the point that FE'ers don't ever intend to create any type of model that demonstrates any observable, real world phenomena whatsoever?  Oh, I've known that for years.
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Pongo

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« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2014, 11:20:35 AM »
Do you mean the point that FE'ers don't ever intend to create any type of model that demonstrates any observable, real world phenomena whatsoever?  Oh, I've known that for years.

No, quit being obtuse.  I maintain that I will most likely never make a model of wind patterns on a flat-earth.  I simply don't have the funds, expertise, or time to create something like this.  So badgering me for a model is akin to me badgering someone for a series of round-world novels.

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markjo

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« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2014, 11:38:11 AM »
And you seem more than willing to dismiss a model that does demonstrate and observable, real world phenomenon (world wide wind patterns) created by someone who obviously did have the requisite funds, expertise and time.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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Pongo

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« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2014, 11:45:40 AM »
And you seem more than willing to dismiss a model that does demonstrate and observable, real world phenomenon (world wide wind patterns) created by someone who obviously did have the requisite funds, expertise and time.

And what's to assure me their data is correct?  What if every line on that globe was reversed?  Simply having the skills, time, and money to make an application like that does not mean it's correct.  For all any of us know, it's a complete fabrication.  Also, you're still breaking our unspoken mutual ignoring truce.

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markjo

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« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2014, 12:29:52 PM »
And you seem more than willing to dismiss a model that does demonstrate and observable, real world phenomenon (world wide wind patterns) created by someone who obviously did have the requisite funds, expertise and time.

And what's to assure me their data is correct?  What if every line on that globe was reversed?  Simply having the skills, time, and money to make an application like that does not mean it's correct.  For all any of us know, it's a complete fabrication.  Also, you're still breaking our unspoken mutual ignoring truce.
Did you miss the part where I mentioned that wind patterns are observable?
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Pongo

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« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2014, 01:00:52 PM »
And you seem more than willing to dismiss a model that does demonstrate and observable, real world phenomenon (world wide wind patterns) created by someone who obviously did have the requisite funds, expertise and time.

And what's to assure me their data is correct?  What if every line on that globe was reversed?  Simply having the skills, time, and money to make an application like that does not mean it's correct.  For all any of us know, it's a complete fabrication.  Also, you're still breaking our unspoken mutual ignoring truce.
Did you miss the part where I mentioned that wind patterns are observable?

Yes, but not all over the plane'et simultaneously.

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markjo

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« Reply #38 on: July 11, 2014, 01:10:34 PM »
And you seem more than willing to dismiss a model that does demonstrate and observable, real world phenomenon (world wide wind patterns) created by someone who obviously did have the requisite funds, expertise and time.

And what's to assure me their data is correct?  What if every line on that globe was reversed?  Simply having the skills, time, and money to make an application like that does not mean it's correct.  For all any of us know, it's a complete fabrication.  Also, you're still breaking our unspoken mutual ignoring truce.
Did you miss the part where I mentioned that wind patterns are observable?

Yes, but not all over the plane'et simultaneously.
This is why there are weather stations scattered all over the world.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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JimmyTheCrab

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« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2014, 01:28:25 PM »
And you seem more than willing to dismiss a model that does demonstrate and observable, real world phenomenon (world wide wind patterns) created by someone who obviously did have the requisite funds, expertise and time.

And what's to assure me their data is correct?  What if every line on that globe was reversed?  Simply having the skills, time, and money to make an application like that does not mean it's correct.  For all any of us know, it's a complete fabrication.  Also, you're still breaking our unspoken mutual ignoring truce.
Did you miss the part where I mentioned that wind patterns are observable?

Yes, but not all over the plane'et simultaneously.
Except they are.
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ausGeoff

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« Reply #40 on: July 12, 2014, 04:02:09 AM »
Where's my round-world version of Pratchett's novels AusGeoff?  I'm still waiting.
Is there any particular reason you can't address my request?  Do you not have access to such information?  And if not, then why not?

I did address your request
.  Please reread the posts.  However, I'm still waiting on your series of round-world novels.  Where are they?

Nope.  You neatly avoided it.  I said:

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I understand all of that.  I wasn't asking you to PERSONALLY draw up a map of the planetary wind patters—probably few of us are capable of such a task.  What I WAS asking you to do was to post a diagram sourced from the repository of the flat earth society(s).  Surely the flat earthers must have some knowledge of what would produce these observed weather patterns—but on a flat plane which isn't rotating?  So... your LINK is?

And you still haven't posted the link I asked for.  Presumably because you don't have one?


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ausGeoff

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« Reply #41 on: July 12, 2014, 04:08:13 AM »

This thread is about flat earth winds, not round earth novels.  Please stay on topic.

One of the common techniques of flat earthers when they're backed into a corner with no answers is to deliberately derail the thread.  As noted, jroa is a master of this practice, but it's as obvious as the testicular appendages on a dog.

It's more than conclusive by now that Pongo can't produce any diagram of the earth's surface wind patterns on a theoretical planar planet that's not spinning.

Yet another blow for flat earth pseudo-science?

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« Reply #42 on: July 12, 2014, 04:13:07 AM »
And you seem more than willing to dismiss a model that does demonstrate and observable, real world phenomenon (world wide wind patterns) created by someone who obviously did have the requisite funds, expertise and time.

And what's to assure me their data is correct?  What if every line on that globe was reversed?  Simply having the skills, time, and money to make an application like that does not mean it's correct.  For all any of us know, it's a complete fabrication.  Also, you're still breaking our unspoken mutual ignoring truce.
Did you miss the part where I mentioned that wind patterns are observable?

Yes, but not all over the plane'et simultaneously.
This is why there are weather stations scattered all over the world.
Who's to say the weather stations have the proper data? Who's to say the weather stations equipment is even properly built? Who's to say that the data you're reading is even data? On a serious note if we all thought like this we would still be in the stone age. New technology didn't just happened last night, it took years and multiple generations to accomplish. Think about it you Flat Earthers, lets say you actually had data then passed it on to your children and what not. Why would they believe you over what they can observer them self? Who is confirming your research? What kind of education do even have? Job occupation high school janitors? There is absolutely 0 evidence the earth is flat, there is 0 mathematics to flat earth, there is absolutely no science or any data what so ever to prove the earth is flat. So thousands maybe millions of books and research about round earth theory, so why would anyone on this forum have to prove himself by recreating decades of research? Round earth theorist have absolutely nothing to prove because it's flat earthed theorists who think we are wrong so they should be the ones providing evidence not us. It's also funny that they are raising money, normal people attend a University for their study's and the University has more then enough knowledge and equipment for some of these studies. If you say you can't afford school then all I'm hearing from flat earthers is more excuses to how they cannot prove us wrong. I think anyone can afford school now a days since they give out loans to just about anyone.

Another thing to take note is that not all flat earthers are on the same page. Meaning that maybe this guy believes that the wind works one way then you might get another flat earther come in and say it works like this. Then you'll have another say this and that. So for all we know there could be thousands of flat earth wind diagrams, meanwhile there is only 1 diagram for the round earth witch has been confirmed and checked by various scientists who actually have a phd. See the problem here, all of flat earth bs is accepted by all their members no matter how far fetch it sounds, as long as the earth isn't round life is good for them, but that also means any joe blow can come in here and be like heres my diagram and it's 100% dead on because I made it, it's a flat model so the community automatically accepts it without double checking it or even understanding any logic out of it, it just works like that because it makes sense in their mind.

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ausGeoff

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« Reply #43 on: July 12, 2014, 06:51:47 AM »

Yes, but not all over the planet simultaneously.

Of course they are.  24/7/365.

Simply denying something exists is in no way a valid argument.  And your knowledge of matters meteorological is obviously sadly lacking my friend.