Official Flat-Earth Expedition Fundraiser Thread!

How can it be that after a couple of months, nobody further has donated?  The funds still stand at $1300.

Can a moderator please update the total thus far in order to prove the legitimacy of this fundraising campaign?

I checked.  The funds have not yet increased.

Wait, why are you expecting to find new species along the way? That's cool if you do, but what a weird expectation to have. Good luck with the expedition, don't let the NASA boogeymen getcha!

I have an idea. Instead of shooting for the lofty goal of a few million bucks, why not scale back and use a simpler method of observing the shape of the earth. I figure.. why not see if you can book a high altitude flight. Bring a camera for the rest of us.. then take some pictures. High enough altitude you should at least get an idea of what shape the earth is.

This is typical round-earth mindset.  They tell us for years, "why don't you simply charter a map or take and expedition," and when we finally gear up for one they start suggesting other things to do and say we'll never succeed.  I think it's just fear that their foundations of knowledge will be rocked.  We are going on the expedition roundies, donate if you're not scared, otherwise prepare for an earth-flattening event upon our return.

I didn't say "simply charter a map or take an expedition"
This is a fund for an expedition yes?
I WANT my foundations to be rocked. There's got to be something to this, right??
Good luck on doing that with 1300 bucks. I was just trying to suggest a more realistic 'expedition'

The rest I don't think is deserved. Do what you want, ultimately. I was trying to suggest a more cost effective (potentially) method of proving to the rest of us you might be right.

I can see exactly where this proposed expedition idea is heading Arath.


The flat earthers agree to mount a suitably equipped expedition to the South Pole/ice wall, and quite correctly claim that it needs serious funding.

But... they set their funding target at a virtually unattainable figure.  They want $4 million in donations!  No government grants; no subsidies from related suppliers/industries; and only a mere $1300 from flat earth members themselves.

So... eventually, after a sufficient period of time elapses, the flat earthers say that due to not reaching a sufficient level of funding, that is, 4 million bucks, they have to abandon their proposed expedition...  damn!

Additionally, the mere fact that they were fully prepared to mount an expedition with the intent of proving the existence of the ice wall (and hence a flat earth) shows they were sincere, and heck, who knows, the ice wall may well exist.  It's just that we couldn't nail the final proof, but gee, we came close.  And because of our sincere intentions, we would've definitely proved its existence if we had've actually mounted the expedition.  The fact we couldn't quite raise the funding really pissed us off too, but we couldn't help that.

The fact that ultimately, our expedition didn't take place, shouldn't be a reason to discount the fact of an ice wall existing at the perimeter of the flat earth.  We still believe that it does, and it's more than likely that we'll be mounting another expedition in the near future to prove it once and for all.

Certainly seems that way doesn't it. Why wouldn't you start with something a little more in your grasp.
Go get some amateur rocket materials, fit it with a camera and launch it. Get it high enough and you might be able to either:
a) see the curvature of a spheroid earth
b) see the disc like features of a flat earth
c) land the missile in Australia (depending on the launch point) as concave earth hypothesis (or dyson sphere earth as I call it)

Well within your 1300$ budget I'm sure. Or at least reasonably attainable. You're not though are you?
You're going to go for the 4 million and go "Oops! couldn't do it!"
Right? Be honest.

God, please don't get killed by the penguins. They have razor sharp teeth and will kill you. The NASA gaurds trained them, and now, well, they kill people. A man got killed a few weeks ago.

http://www.livescience.com/47692-high-altitude-balloons-floating-satellites.html

Here is a cheap way to once and for all confirm a flat or round earth.

I would like to contribute the resources of the university in which I tenure.

I will speak to some of the other deans and try to arrange a expedition.

Most likely we will have trouble with this. Forces that be may indeed find a way to halt this.   

I would like to contribute the resources of the university in which I tenure.

I will speak to some of the other deans and try to arrange a expedition.

Most likely we will have trouble with this. Forces that be may indeed find a way to halt this.

I'm sorry, but I have great difficulty in accepting that you're a "dean" at any university—particularly in Australia, because anybody who truly accepts that the earth is flat has no place in any accredited university.  And there's dozens of non-accredited, self-styled "universities" particularly in the US.  The fact that you claim that their are "other deans" who accept the flat earth theory also sounds less than credible.

Can you please tell me what country you reside in?  (And there's no need to name the actual university itself unless you feel comfortable with doing so.)

Can you also clarify what you mean by "forces that be"?  Surely the biggest difficulty in mounting this expedition would be of a financial nature, rather than any perceived opposition from sources unknown?

The other thing of course is that so far the fund raiser has failed to even make a tiny dent in the $4 million needed.  It's stood at only $1300 for more than two months now, with the flat earth administrators refusing or not bothering to periodically update this total.  Any donation from an educational institute would have to be in the order of tens of thousands of dollars; can you organise that?  I'd be guessing not.

Gods you are pompous.

The other thing of course is that so far the fund raiser has failed to even make a tiny dent in the $4 million needed.  It's stood at only $1300 for more than two months now, with the flat earth administrators refusing or not bothering to periodically update this total.  Any donation from an educational institute would have to be in the order of tens of thousands of dollars; can you organise that?  I'd be guessing not.

What makes you think we aren't checking for updates?

What makes you think we aren't checking for updates?

Uh... maybe the fact that the grand total hasn't increased from$1,300 for more than two months?

My schoolboy maths tells me you still need another $3,998,700 to reach your goal.  Not looking good is it?

How much have you donated?

I need not explain not must I justify my academic prowess.

I need not explain not must I justify my academic prowess.

With writing skills like that, I think that you do.

I find the $4,000,000 figure to seem quite high. Nonetheless I am willing to volunteer as one of the scientist types. I have BA's in physics and applied math from Rutgers University. I am also ex infantry and have some cold weather training. I will happily donate my time.

If you want this to happen, the Kickstarter idea is necessary I think. You will never find enough people here to fund it. Someone needs to actually do some serious planning and budgeting to see how much you really need to raise,however.

And some serious issues need to be addressed. Such as: "if we find Antarctica is an island we will continue onto the wall"  um well since according to RE Antarctica is as far south as one can go in which direction do you intend on going. If it is an island, and if while circumnavigating it your compass always points south, then it is an island and also the most southern part of the world. Thus demonstrating your hypothesis is incorrect.

How much have you donated?

As I'm a round earther, why would you expect me to donate to your expedition?  Why would I throw my hard-earned dollars away on an expedition that'll no doubt prove what I've known as fact all my adult life?

And as you're a dedicated flat earther, may I ask how much—if anything—you've donated?  And do you expect to accompany the expedition should it come to fruition, and what personal technical skills you'll provide to the expedition?

Quote from: Pongo on September 08, 2014, 03:58:01 PM

How much have you donated?

As I'm a round earther, why would you expect me to donate to your expedition?  Why would I throw my hard-earned dollars away on an expedition that'll no doubt prove what I've known as fact all my adult life?

Then how come you're positively convinced that we aren't checking and updating the funds?  What if, and stick with me hear because I feel this should have dawned on you, no one has donated since you first checked?

Then how come you're positively convinced that we aren't checking and updating the funds?  What if, and stick with me hear because I feel this should have dawned on you, no one has donated since you first checked?

I'm convinced you're not updating the funds total because it hasn't increased at all in two months.  Can I possibly make it any clearer Pongo?

And if nobody has donated any more in those two months, then simple maths says you're never gonna get anywhere near your required $4 million in my lifetime.  Or yours.

And as I asked; have you donated anything at all?  A simple yes or no will suffice.

Quote from: Pongo on September 09, 2014, 06:22:08 AM

Then how come you're positively convinced that we aren't checking and updating the funds?  What if, and stick with me hear because I feel this should have dawned on you, no one has donated since you first checked?

I'm convinced you're not updating the funds total because it hasn't increased at all in two months.  Can I possibly make it any clearer Pongo?

And if nobody has donated any more in those two months, then simple maths says you're never gonna get anywhere near your required $4 million in my lifetime.  Or yours.

And as I asked; have you donated anything at all?  A simple yes or no will suffice.

You are better and smarter than FEers.  Feel better?

Noth does the words flay from the mouth has the last dove sailed its shore.

Well said.
The fluttering verb floweth apart from the everything all over again.

You are better and smarter than FEers.  Feel better?

Thank you my dear stalker... yes I do.  And I appreciate you thinking of my interests.   

But I think you need to expand your claim to include all round earthers.  And as a pseudo-round earther, I'm surprised that you're not asking the same questions as I am regarding the static fund-raising total.

I'm guessing though that as you're a fence-sitter, you're not quite game enough to put all your eggs in one basket.  You don't wanna upset the flat earthers do you LOL.

Quote from: Rama Set on September 09, 2014, 01:18:13 PM

You are better and smarter than FEers.  Feel better?

Thank you my dear stalker... yes I do.  And I appreciate you thinking of my interests.   

But I think you need to expand your claim to include all round earthers.  And as a pseudo-round earther, I'm surprised that you're not asking the same questions as I am regarding the static fund-raising total.

I'm guessing though that as you're a fence-sitter, you're not quite game enough to put all your eggs in one basket.  You don't wanna upset the flat earthers do you LOL.

Holy crap!  How did you know!?!?  It is so disquieting to be laid bare to such a potent intellect.

Holy crap!  How did you know!?!?  It is so disquieting to be laid bare to such a potent intellect.

I guess I know a LOT of things you don't know (judging by your lack of meaningful input to these forums).  You seem to spend countless hours hurling childish insults and put-downs at other members—rather than engaging in any sort of intellectual debate.  Cheap thrills?

Although, I suppose I should be appreciative that you're apparently hanging on my every word like a faithful puppy looking for a treat?  So please... feel free to respond to me whenever the urge takes you.  But I can't guarantee you any "Doggy-Bytes" LOL.

Children are dying in Africa, and some guys on the internet decided to raise 4mil dollars to prove the Earth is flat.

Beautiful. Simply beautiful.

Children are dying in Africa, and some guys on the internet decided to raise 4mil dollars to prove the Earth is flat.

Beautiful. Simply beautiful.

Not just Africa bro.  What are you doing about it?

I'm planning a 4 million dollar expedition to the other side of the earth.
With all that custard we'll mine from the dark side of the earth, we can feed all the little starving children of the world.
What have YOU done?