CHEMTRAILS..... Fact or Fiction?

So anyone who questions why their seeing the sky's littered with theses trails on a daily bases, according to your doctrine. Is in your opinion wearing a tinfoil hat & someone of unsound mind. I would have to say  a rational human would be some what concerned at seeing their sky continually  littered with theses trails daily.
You people dont seem to be at all concerned . Hummmmm what makes people behave in that manner is what really should be, being questioned. Care to explain your lack of concern?

Quote from: charles bloomington on July 03, 2014, 05:07:09 PM

So anyone who questions why their seeing the sky's littered with theses trails on a daily bases, according to your doctrine. Is in your opinion wearing a tinfoil hat & someone of unsound mind. I would have to say  a rational human would be some what concerned at seeing their sky continually  littered with theses trails daily.

Our skies are NOT "littered" with contrails every day Charles.  Again, you're simply dreaming and/or making things up.  I haven't seen any contrails in the sky for days, and I live near a RAAF base.  (For our overseas members, that's a government airfield.)  Charles is simply one of those people who make rash generalisations about stuff;  he happens to notice a couple of contrails one day, and then his paranoia sets in—the skies are "littered" with them LOL.

Further, his comparison with the steam from his kitchen kettle and contrails indicates that he has absolutely no idea how contrails are formed.  He seems to think that ice crystals are gonna form in his kitchen at room temperature, or clouds are gonna hover below his ceiling!  Better wear your raincoat next time you make a cuppa Charles.

Quote from: ausGeoff on July 04, 2014, 07:27:54 AM

Quote from: charles bloomington on July 03, 2014, 05:07:09 PM

So anyone who questions why their seeing the sky's littered with theses trails on a daily bases, according to your doctrine. Is in your opinion wearing a tinfoil hat & someone of unsound mind. I would have to say  a rational human would be some what concerned at seeing their sky continually  littered with theses trails daily.

Our skies are NOT "littered" with contrails every day Charles.  Again, you're simply dreaming and/or making things up.  I haven't seen any contrails in the sky for days, and I live near a RAAF base.  (For our overseas members, that's a government airfield.)  Charles is simply one of those people who make rash generalisations about stuff;  he happens to notice a couple of contrails one day, and then his paranoia sets in—the skies are "littered" with them LOL.

Further, his comparison with the steam from his kitchen kettle and contrails indicates that he has absolutely no idea how contrails are formed.  He seems to think that ice crystals are gonna form in his kitchen at room temperature, or clouds are gonna hover below his ceiling!  Better wear your raincoat next time you make a cuppa Charles.

I & others  have filmed  plenty of documenting footage of jets trails & clouds forming . I haven't seen any contrails in the sky for days So your not denying you have been seeing trails . Why would anyone think there anything but condensation trails.The fact you will have two jets of the same model type. Flying at the same altitude, same atmospheric conditions .One producing a massive trail that spreads out & forms a cloud & the other jet is not producing any trail. That requires a better  explanation then its just condensation.  Please explain Geoff Agenda.         

Quote from: charles bloomington on July 03, 2014, 05:07:09 PM

So anyone who questions why their seeing the sky's littered with theses trails on a daily bases, according to your doctrine. Is in your opinion wearing a tinfoil hat & someone of unsound mind. I would have to say  a rational human would be some what concerned at seeing their sky continually  littered with theses trails daily.

Our skies are NOT "littered" with contrails every day Charles.  Again, you're simply dreaming and/or making things up.  I haven't seen any contrails in the sky for days, and I live near a RAAF base.  (For our overseas members, that's a government airfield.)  Charles is simply one of those people who make rash generalisations about stuff;  he happens to notice a couple of contrails one day, and then his paranoia sets in—the skies are "littered" with them LOL.

Further, his comparison with the steam from his kitchen kettle and contrails indicates that he has absolutely no idea how contrails are formed.  He seems to think that ice crystals are gonna form in his kitchen at room temperature, or clouds are gonna hover below his ceiling!  Better wear your raincoat next time you make a cuppa Charles.

Quote from: charles bloomington on July 04, 2014, 06:02:43 PM

Quote from: ausGeoff on July 04, 2014, 07:27:54 AM

Quote from: charles bloomington on July 03, 2014, 05:07:09 PM

So anyone who questions why their seeing the sky's littered with theses trails on a daily bases, according to your doctrine. Is in your opinion wearing a tinfoil hat & someone of unsound mind. I would have to say  a rational human would be some what concerned at seeing their sky continually  littered with theses trails daily.

Our skies are NOT "littered" with contrails every day Charles.  Again, you're simply dreaming and/or making things up.  I haven't seen any contrails in the sky for days, and I live near a RAAF base.  (For our overseas members, that's a government airfield.)  Charles is simply one of those people who make rash generalisations about stuff;  he happens to notice a couple of contrails one day, and then his paranoia sets in—the skies are "littered" with them LOL.

Further, his comparison with the steam from his kitchen kettle and contrails indicates that he has absolutely no idea how contrails are formed.  He seems to think that ice crystals are gonna form in his kitchen at room temperature, or clouds are gonna hover below his ceiling!  Better wear your raincoat next time you make a cuppa Charles.

I & others  have filmed  plenty of documenting footage of jets trails & clouds forming . I haven't seen any contrails in the sky for days So your not denying you have been seeing trails . Why would anyone think there anything but condensation trails.The fact you will have two jets of the same model type. Flying at the same altitude, same atmospheric conditions .One producing a massive trail that spreads out & forms a cloud & the other jet is not producing any trail. That requires a better  explanation then its just condensation.  Please explain Geoff Agenda.         

Charles could you first explain how you determined that A) the models of the jets, B) Their altitudes, and C) the atmospheric conditions were all the same both times?

Quote from: Shmeggley on July 04, 2014, 06:24:53 PM

Quote from: charles bloomington on July 04, 2014, 06:02:43 PM

Quote from: ausGeoff on July 04, 2014, 07:27:54 AM

Quote from: charles bloomington on July 03, 2014, 05:07:09 PM

So anyone who questions why their seeing the sky's littered with theses trails on a daily bases, according to your doctrine. Is in your opinion wearing a tinfoil hat & someone of unsound mind. I would have to say  a rational human would be some what concerned at seeing their sky continually  littered with theses trails daily.

Our skies are NOT "littered" with contrails every day Charles.  Again, you're simply dreaming and/or making things up.  I haven't seen any contrails in the sky for days, and I live near a RAAF base.  (For our overseas members, that's a government airfield.)  Charles is simply one of those people who make rash generalisations about stuff;  he happens to notice a couple of contrails one day, and then his paranoia sets in—the skies are "littered" with them LOL.

Further, his comparison with the steam from his kitchen kettle and contrails indicates that he has absolutely no idea how contrails are formed.  He seems to think that ice crystals are gonna form in his kitchen at room temperature, or clouds are gonna hover below his ceiling!  Better wear your raincoat next time you make a cuppa Charles.

I & others  have filmed  plenty of documenting footage of jets trails & clouds forming . I haven't seen any contrails in the sky for days So your not denying you have been seeing trails . Why would anyone think there anything but condensation trails.The fact you will have two jets of the same model type. Flying at the same altitude, same atmospheric conditions .One producing a massive trail that spreads out & forms a cloud & the other jet is not producing any trail. That requires a better  explanation then its just condensation.  Please explain Geoff Agenda.         

Charles could you first explain how you determined that A) the models of the jets, B) Their altitudes, and C) the atmospheric conditions were all the same both times?

Why would I bother trying to explain A B & C to you. Its kind of pointless dont you think ? When its blatantly obvious your a Shill & a supporter of  Agenda 21. But will humour you, Till my browser is hijacked again or anther root kit is installed to crash my PC. Both carries fly the same jets, both carries fly the same route & altitude.  The flights of the two carriers where only 15 min apart on that particular time of the day. flight path was clear blue sky. That was until the second jet left its trail.   

Quote from: BJ1234 on July 04, 2014, 08:18:19 AM

Why present facts when you can rant about unsubstantiated claims and your only rebuttal to those that have different views is "of course they won't tell you what they are REALLY doing."

What facts do you have? About anything...

Quote from: Shmeggley on July 04, 2014, 06:24:53 PM

Quote from: charles bloomington on July 04, 2014, 06:02:43 PM

Quote from: ausGeoff on July 04, 2014, 07:27:54 AM

Quote from: charles bloomington on July 03, 2014, 05:07:09 PM

So anyone who questions why their seeing the sky's littered with theses trails on a daily bases, according to your doctrine. Is in your opinion wearing a tinfoil hat & someone of unsound mind. I would have to say  a rational human would be some what concerned at seeing their sky continually  littered with theses trails daily.

Our skies are NOT "littered" with contrails every day Charles.  Again, you're simply dreaming and/or making things up.  I haven't seen any contrails in the sky for days, and I live near a RAAF base.  (For our overseas members, that's a government airfield.)  Charles is simply one of those people who make rash generalisations about stuff;  he happens to notice a couple of contrails one day, and then his paranoia sets in—the skies are "littered" with them LOL.

Further, his comparison with the steam from his kitchen kettle and contrails indicates that he has absolutely no idea how contrails are formed.  He seems to think that ice crystals are gonna form in his kitchen at room temperature, or clouds are gonna hover below his ceiling!  Better wear your raincoat next time you make a cuppa Charles.

I & others  have filmed  plenty of documenting footage of jets trails & clouds forming . I haven't seen any contrails in the sky for days So your not denying you have been seeing trails . Why would anyone think there anything but condensation trails.The fact you will have two jets of the same model type. Flying at the same altitude, same atmospheric conditions .One producing a massive trail that spreads out & forms a cloud & the other jet is not producing any trail. That requires a better  explanation then its just condensation.  Please explain Geoff Agenda.         

Charles could you first explain how you determined that A) the models of the jets, B) Their altitudes, and C) the atmospheric conditions were all the same both times?

Why would I bother trying to explain A B & C to you. Its kind of pointless dont you think ? When its blatantly obvious your a Shill & a supporter of  Agenda 21. But will humour you, Till my browser is hijacked again or anther root kit is installed to crash my PC. Both carries fly the same jets, both carries fly the same route & altitude.  The flights of the two carriers where only 15 min apart on that particular time of the day. flight path was clear blue sky. That was until the second jet left its trail.   

Quote from: charles bloomington on July 05, 2014, 12:30:50 AM

Quote from: Shmeggley on July 04, 2014, 06:24:53 PM

Quote from: charles bloomington on July 04, 2014, 06:02:43 PM

Quote from: ausGeoff on July 04, 2014, 07:27:54 AM

Quote from: charles bloomington on July 03, 2014, 05:07:09 PM

So anyone who questions why their seeing the sky's littered with theses trails on a daily bases, according to your doctrine. Is in your opinion wearing a tinfoil hat & someone of unsound mind. I would have to say  a rational human would be some what concerned at seeing their sky continually  littered with theses trails daily.

Our skies are NOT "littered" with contrails every day Charles.  Again, you're simply dreaming and/or making things up.  I haven't seen any contrails in the sky for days, and I live near a RAAF base.  (For our overseas members, that's a government airfield.)  Charles is simply one of those people who make rash generalisations about stuff;  he happens to notice a couple of contrails one day, and then his paranoia sets in—the skies are "littered" with them LOL.

Further, his comparison with the steam from his kitchen kettle and contrails indicates that he has absolutely no idea how contrails are formed.  He seems to think that ice crystals are gonna form in his kitchen at room temperature, or clouds are gonna hover below his ceiling!  Better wear your raincoat next time you make a cuppa Charles.

I & others  have filmed  plenty of documenting footage of jets trails & clouds forming . I haven't seen any contrails in the sky for days So your not denying you have been seeing trails . Why would anyone think there anything but condensation trails.The fact you will have two jets of the same model type. Flying at the same altitude, same atmospheric conditions .One producing a massive trail that spreads out & forms a cloud & the other jet is not producing any trail. That requires a better  explanation then its just condensation.  Please explain Geoff Agenda.         

Charles could you first explain how you determined that A) the models of the jets, B) Their altitudes, and C) the atmospheric conditions were all the same both times?

Why would I bother trying to explain A B & C to you. Its kind of pointless dont you think ? When its blatantly obvious your a Shill & a supporter of  Agenda 21. But will humour you, Till my browser is hijacked again or anther root kit is installed to crash my PC. Both carries fly the same jets, both carries fly the same route & altitude.  The flights of the two carriers where only 15 min apart on that particular time of the day. flight path was clear blue sky. That was until the second jet left its trail.   

And where did you get all this information? Sounds like you are doing nothing but making assumptions.

But let's say all these assumptions are correct. You then go on to assume that under the same conditions, contrails will always behave the same way. How do you know this is the case? Have you studied enough real contrails to know that they will always behave exactly the same way? For someone who claims to know so much you certainly assume a lot to be true charles.

Ted's a real character, I particularly enjoy his story about the thousands of ritual human sacrifices that go on in each major city each year. It's a bit disingenuous to describe him as "former FBI chief" though, he was an agent who went on to be the head of a few regional offices at the end of the 70s. Then he left and ranted about a variety of conspiracies for the rest of his life and eventually died of cancer.

Naturally, it's assumed that he was assassinated to prevent the truth from getting out, and yet this assassination could apparently wait until 2011 when he was an old man and had already been shouting the truth to anyone who'd listen for two or three decades, entirely unsilenced.

Also, how is it that he knows about the millions of unnatural fish deaths but the entire field of ichthyology does not?

Since when does a patent for something mean that it is actually being used.

I & others  have filmed  plenty of documenting footage of jets trails & clouds forming.

So your [sic] not denying you have been seeing trails. Why would anyone think there [sic] anything but condensation trails.

The fact you will have two jets of the same model type.  Flying at the same altitude, same atmospheric conditions. One producing a massive trail that spreads out & forms a cloud & the other jet is not producing any trail.

That requires a better  explanation then its just condensation.  Please explain Geoff Agenda.

http://www.google.com/patents/US5003186

Quote from: charles bloomington on July 04, 2014, 06:36:57 PM

http://www.google.com/patents/US5003186

To save anybody wasting their time reading through this patent Charles has cited, it's a 25-year-old patent for a  procedure involving spraying thorium dioxide and other metal oxides into the upper atmosphere for the purpose of reducing global warming.

But there's a lot more to patents than just submitting an application.  Most patented devices or procedures never see the light of day, and the one quoted by Charles falls into this category. In fact, as it was granted 25 years ago, it's now null and void.

A patent does NOT give a right to make or use or sell an invention. Rather, a patent provides the legal right to exclude others from manufacturing, using, selling, or importing the patented invention or methodology for the term of the patent, which is 20 years from the date of the granting of the patent.  A patent—being an exclusionary right—does not necessarily give the owner of the patent rights to exploit, manufacture, on-sell, or utilise the subject of the patent.

It's obvious that poor old Charles thinks the granting of a patent automatically implies that something has been "approved" by the government or that it's actually been manufactured and put into use, or can be put into use.  This patent he's using as a debating point to somehow reinforce the rubbish he's been posting about alleged "chemtrails" is therefore worthless as any sort of supporting evidence.

—Sorry Charles.

Please cite the UN Agenda 21 document where it says it aims to reduce the population by 70% and where it sets up "human exclusion zones" and you have claimed.

Talks for Implementing UN Agenda 21 & addressing gobble [sic] warming & climate change. Started taking place approximately around  1987. It would be very hard for anyone to ignore there seems to be a strong connection. That is of course unless your [sic] doing your utmost  to insure  others are distracted  from ever questioning, are the two connected.   
http://americanpolicy.org/agenda21/
Your point of the year the patten [sic] was lodged & obtained is? Geoff Agenda   

PS:  I must speak to my partner about "gobble warming".  She's very warm of heart, but boy, those lips of hers can be like ice on these winter mornings LOL.

Quote from: charles bloomington on July 06, 2014, 05:04:46 PM

Talks for Implementing UN Agenda 21 & addressing gobble [sic] warming & climate change. Started taking place approximately around  1987. It would be very hard for anyone to ignore there seems to be a strong connection. That is of course unless your [sic] doing your utmost  to insure  others are distracted  from ever questioning, are the two connected.   
http://americanpolicy.org/agenda21/
Your point of the year the patten [sic] was lodged & obtained is? Geoff Agenda   

It's not unexpected to me that Charles has posted a link to a US group of loonies who masquerade under the impressive but misleading title of "The American Policy Center" or APC.  Its president is a guy by the name of Tom DeWeese, a noted, lifelong US conspiracy theorist.

For an in-depth, and amusingly disparaging look at DeWeese and his absurd APC organisation, check out this site:  Wingnut Watch: Tom DeWeese and the American Policy Center.

I mentioned the year the patent was granted Charles simply to prove that its methodology of climate modification had never even been considered as a technically viable, working solution since that time, and that it had expired anyway—relegated to the dustbin of technological absurdities.

PS:  I must speak to my partner about "gobble warming".  She's very warm of heart, but boy, those lips of hers can be like ice on these winter mornings LOL.

It seems anyone who questions anything, is a nut job conspiracy theorist according to you Geoff. I can only go on my own experiences dealing with UN agenda 21.

7 different unlawful plaining [sic] overlays on my property that never existed in 1999. So ether talk truth Geoff or phark off ya clown.

Quote from: charles bloomington on July 07, 2014, 02:54:07 AM

It seems anyone who questions anything, is a nut job conspiracy theorist according to you Geoff. I can only go on my own experiences dealing with UN agenda 21.

Uh... I'm more inclined to believe that you're the one sucking up the conspiracy theories like a defective intellectual sponge Charles.  Earlier on, you posted "Read UN agenda 21, their own literature talks of reducing the world population by 70%".

And we're still waiting for you to substantiate this claim.  So, a direct link please.

You also claimed earlier that "I and others  have filmed  plenty of documenting footage of jets trails & clouds forming".  I then—quite reasonably— asked you to post a link to one of these videos of yours, and you've not yet done so.  Why is that?  Were you maybe misrepresenting the truth a little Charles?

Anyway, I'll await your video link.

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7 different unlawful plaining [sic] overlays on my property that never existed in 1999. So ether talk truth Geoff or phark off ya clown.

As it's obviously affected you at a personal level Charles, could you please list those seven specific amended overlays?

(You should also know that I've reported your repeated personal insults and foul language to the moderators.)

Quote from: BJ1234 on July 06, 2014, 09:35:02 PM

Please cite the UN Agenda 21 document where it says it aims to reduce the population by 70% and where it sets up "human exclusion zones" and you have claimed.

You wont find a copy of it on the internet .I have all ready told you that , they have been removed & I'm sure as hell not going to put a copy I have at risk of being trashed.

Just for curiosity's sake, how did you come to be in possession of this secret unaltered UN document?

Quote from: DuckDodgers on July 07, 2014, 10:17:39 AM

Just for curiosity's sake, how did you come to be in possession of this secret unaltered UN document?

For curiosity's sake: how do you know about a secret document?

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on July 07, 2014, 11:19:10 AM

Quote from: DuckDodgers on July 07, 2014, 10:17:39 AM

Just for curiosity's sake, how did you come to be in possession of this secret unaltered UN document?

For curiosity's sake: how do you know about a secret document?

Are you trying to quibble with me for no reason or did you fail to read Charles' s post?