CHEMTRAILS..... Fact or Fiction?

I don't have time to read that paper right now, was there anything in there outside of "we have seeded clouds to cause rain and we are attempting but haven't succeeded in trying to dissipate warm fog, hail, lightning, hurricanes, etc."?

It is very interesting that you all still cling to the idea that chemtrails do not exist, yet the govt has admitted to spraying chems into the Earth's atmosphere. Why do you all deny evidence, even when it's from the source?

Read this article for further information.

“We do stuff in the stratosphere all the time off-course, so it’s not as though the stratosphere is absolutely pristine. But you don’t want to have people going off and doing things that involve large radioactive forgings, or programs that go on for extended periods or for that matter provide lots of reactive surfaces that could result in significant ozone destruction.”
- M. Granger Morgan, Carnegie Mellon University, University and Lord Chair Professor of Engineering and Public Policy, National Academy of Sciences Member

Please open your eyes. It is childish to keep them closed when the evidence for chemtrails is overwhelming. The fact is: NASA has admitted to spraying a variety of chems into the Earth's atmosphere. They have admitted this. Can we stop talking about this now? All of you detractors are wrong. I know it's hard to accept defeat, but please try to have some dignity. You're all embarrassing yourselves at this point.

The Collective Evolution site is nothing more than a joke.  It's a hotbed of lunatic conspiracy theories, pseudo-science, distortions of accredited medicine; nonsensical alternative health; religious proselytizing;  anti-government and political bias etc.  The only thing they've got right, and not lied about?  They accept that Earth is a sphere.  Fabulous stuff indeed LOL.

They've also posted an image which—by implication—is intended to look like an aircraft full of drums containing deadly poisons for spraying into the atmosphere.  But panic not.  Those drums don't contain any chemicals of any sort.
 
 
Ref:  http://www.airliners.net/
 




And I'm glad that you've single-handedly exposed the US government and NASA's covert operations so successfully—from behind your keyboard:  "It is childish to keep them (your eyes) closed when the evidence for chemtrails is overwhelming."  Well done.  Now all you need to do is to give us a page of citations that proves your extraordinary claims.

Geoff, you've made the same claims about aerosol containers at least 4+ times now. We know you want us to think they are used for weight tests, but the evidence contradicts your claim completely.

How much is the government paying you to type these conditioned responses?

I'm confused.
Vauxy, have you changed your stance on the whole LSD thing now?
Did you realize how ridiculous you were sounding?

Things to study: The non-existent equivalence of LSD chemtrails to government weather engineering.

I've seen a flock of birds fly through a contrail and die immediately. Now either 40+ birds died at the same time for no reason or they were killed by the chems in the trail.  Disprove that.

Pretty tough to disprove something like that don't you agree? You can't disprove I wasn't Marilyn Monroe in a former life. That doesn't mean I was though.

I've seen a flock of birds fly through a contrail and die immediately. Now either 40+ birds died at the same time for no reason or they were killed by the chems in the trail.  Disprove that.

No, you didn't. That was easy to disprove.

Quote from: Vauxhall on June 28, 2014, 01:36:35 PM

I've seen a flock of birds fly through a contrail and die immediately. Now either 40+ birds died at the same time for no reason or they were killed by the chems in the trail.  Disprove that.

Pretty tough to disprove something like that don't you agree? You can't disprove I wasn't Marilyn Monroe in a former life. That doesn't mean I was though.

We could easily confirm this if you give us your birth date.

Vauxhall is trolling you all so hard it is making my eyes water just looking at it.

Quote from: Shmeggley on June 28, 2014, 07:19:07 PM

Quote from: Vauxhall on June 28, 2014, 01:36:35 PM

I've seen a flock of birds fly through a contrail and die immediately. Now either 40+ birds died at the same time for no reason or they were killed by the chems in the trail.  Disprove that.

Pretty tough to disprove something like that don't you agree? You can't disprove I wasn't Marilyn Monroe in a former life. That doesn't mean I was though.

We could easily confirm this if you give us your birth date.

former life

former life

former life

former life

former life

And you say I have comprehension issues.

Monroe died in 1962. If Shmeggles was born before that date then there is no way he could have been Marilyn Monroe in a former life. You understand?

Monroe died in 1962. If Shmeggles was born before that date then there is no way he could have been Marilyn Monroe in a former life. You understand?

Are you saying if he was born after 1962 he was Marilyn Monroe?

Quote from: Vauxhall on June 29, 2014, 11:26:37 AM

Monroe died in 1962. If Shmeggles was born before that date then there is no way he could have been Marilyn Monroe in a former life. You understand?

Are you saying if he was born after 1962 he was Marilyn Monroe?

I think that's enough information to constitute a "proof" for Mr. Vauxy. 

Monroe died in 1962. If Shmeggles was born before that date then there is no way he could have been Marilyn Monroe in a former life. You understand?

Ahhh, so that's how you work out if someone was Marilyn Monroe in a former life....I had been looking for a tried and tested method.

Geoff, you've made the same claims about aerosol containers at least 4+ times now. We know you want us to think they are used for weight tests, but the evidence contradicts your claim completely.

Can you please cite a few references that prove that these containers are filled with some type of injurious chemicals rather than plain old tap water?  And what sort of chemicals do you claim they are specifically?

You're constantly making unfounded, blanket statements such as "the evidence proves otherwise" but then not once have you ever posted that "evidence" for us to consider.

So I'm asking you again to put your money where your mouth is, and actually post some empirical evidence to support your bizarre claims about alleged "chemtrails".

I've seen a flock of birds fly through a contrail and die immediately. Now either 40+ birds died at the same time for no reason or they were killed by the chems in the trail.  Disprove that.

The obvious answer is that although you witnessed the simultaneous death of a flock of birds, you may well have misinterpreted your observations.

Or, you've fallen for the cum hoc, ergo propter hoc fallacy of logic... (jroa will like this!)

Many flocks/herds/schools/prides of animals die apparently spontaneously for no obvious causal reason.  Whales, fish, dolphins, elks, chickens, cows, even caterpillars and cicadas LOL. 

A couple of years ago, thousands of red-winged blackbirds and starlings literally rained from the sky in the US.  Necropsies by biologists revealed that the birds had suffered internal injuries that formed deadly blood clots.  Thurman Booth, Arkansas' wildlife services director said "There was probably some physical reason, but I doubt anyone will ever know what it was."  No mention of any chemicals in the birds' bloodstreams however.

Monroe died in 1962. If Shmeggles was born before that date then there is no way he could have been Marilyn Monroe in a former life. You understand?

Not necessarily. Reincarnation is very complicated.

Quote from: sokarul on June 29, 2014, 11:29:02 AM

Quote from: Vauxhall on June 29, 2014, 11:26:37 AM

Monroe died in 1962. If Shmeggles was born before that date then there is no way he could have been Marilyn Monroe in a former life. You understand?

Are you saying if he was born after 1962 he was Marilyn Monroe?

I think that's enough information to constitute a "proof" for Mr. Vauxy. 

All I meant is that it's a possibility that he was Marilyn Monroe in a past life, not that he actually was. Further testing will need to be conducted.

Quote from: th3rm0m3t3r0 on June 29, 2014, 11:55:36 AM

Quote from: sokarul on June 29, 2014, 11:29:02 AM

Quote from: Vauxhall on June 29, 2014, 11:26:37 AM

Monroe died in 1962. If Shmeggles was born before that date then there is no way he could have been Marilyn Monroe in a former life. You understand?

Are you saying if he was born after 1962 he was Marilyn Monroe?

I think that's enough information to constitute a "proof" for Mr. Vauxy. 

All I meant is that it's a possibility that he was Marilyn Monroe in a past life, not that he actually was. Further testing will need to be conducted.

You don't say.
You would test this, how, exactly?

Quote from: Vauxhall on June 30, 2014, 09:41:24 AM

Quote from: th3rm0m3t3r0 on June 29, 2014, 11:55:36 AM

Quote from: sokarul on June 29, 2014, 11:29:02 AM

Quote from: Vauxhall on June 29, 2014, 11:26:37 AM

Monroe died in 1962. If Shmeggles was born before that date then there is no way he could have been Marilyn Monroe in a former life. You understand?

Are you saying if he was born after 1962 he was Marilyn Monroe?

I think that's enough information to constitute a "proof" for Mr. Vauxy. 

All I meant is that it's a possibility that he was Marilyn Monroe in a past life, not that he actually was. Further testing will need to be conducted.

You don't say.
You would test this, how, exactly?

I've heard that hypnosis is a good place to start for past life regression.

Quote from: th3rm0m3t3r0 on June 30, 2014, 11:58:55 AM

Quote from: Vauxhall on June 30, 2014, 09:41:24 AM

Quote from: th3rm0m3t3r0 on June 29, 2014, 11:55:36 AM

Quote from: sokarul on June 29, 2014, 11:29:02 AM

Quote from: Vauxhall on June 29, 2014, 11:26:37 AM

Monroe died in 1962. If Shmeggles was born before that date then there is no way he could have been Marilyn Monroe in a former life. You understand?

Are you saying if he was born after 1962 he was Marilyn Monroe?

I think that's enough information to constitute a "proof" for Mr. Vauxy. 

All I meant is that it's a possibility that he was Marilyn Monroe in a past life, not that he actually was. Further testing will need to be conducted.

You don't say.
You would test this, how, exactly?

I've heard that hypnosis is a good place to start for past life regression.

I don't think I buy it.
My buddy's mother does that for a living.

New evidence has come to light.

Conclusive.

We don't care if you buy it, th3rm0. The world doesn't revolve around you and your childish understanding of even the simplest ideas.

We don't care if you buy it, th3rm0. The world doesn't revolve around you and your childish understanding of even the simplest ideas.

You know you used the word "chems" like it is actually a word. Seems to me you don't even understand that "chem" is short for chemical in"chemtrail".

Conclusive.

I agree totally.  Plus it's obviously an non-doctored, original photographic image which us round earthers won't be able to deny.

And to think that for all these years, I've assumed "contrails" were composed simply of H₂O ice crystals.  Well, this photo's really confirmed to me that chemtrails do exist.

We don't care if you buy it, th3rm0. The world doesn't revolve around you and your childish understanding of even the simplest ideas.

What? I was talking about past life regression.
Who do you mean we, by the way?
Multiple personality syndrome?

Quote from: Vauxhall on June 30, 2014, 04:17:10 PM

We don't care if you buy it, th3rm0. The world doesn't revolve around you and your childish understanding of even the simplest ideas.

What? I was talking about past life regression.
Who do you mean we, by the way?
Multiple personality syndrome?

I was talking about past life regression too...

Quote from: th3rm0m3t3r0 on June 30, 2014, 10:32:33 PM

Quote from: Vauxhall on June 30, 2014, 04:17:10 PM

We don't care if you buy it, th3rm0. The world doesn't revolve around you and your childish understanding of even the simplest ideas.

What? I was talking about past life regression.
Who do you mean we, by the way?
Multiple personality syndrome?

I was talking about past life regression too...

Don't you mean we?
Past life regression is not a "simple idea" that you just need to "grasp".
I don't buy it. It's not like it's a fact that it works like they say it does.
There's nothing scientific about it.

How's about you get back on topic? Has anyone read the NSF report from 1965? Or are you more interested in deciding who used to be Marilyn Monroe?

The evidence is there if you want to find it. Let me spell it out for you:

1. Documented multinational experimental climate modification programs since (at least) the 1940's.
2. A treaty agreed to in the 1970's outlawing weather warfare.

How's about you get back on topic? Has anyone read the NSF report from 1965? Or are you more interested in deciding who used to be Marilyn Monroe?

The evidence is there if you want to find it. Let me spell it out for you:

1. Documented multinational experimental climate modification programs since (at least) the 1940's.
2. A treaty agreed to in the 1970's outlawing weather warfare.

The crucial bit you are missing is how any of this relates to contrails.