How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?

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How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« on: June 14, 2014, 12:37:07 PM »
Halley's Comet's orbit brings it back to earth every 76 years or so, and humans have known this and correctly predicted its return for hundreds of years.  The time it takes to return is calculated using the standard theory of gravity, not Universal Acceleration.  How does FE theory explain the behavior of Halley's Comet?
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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2014, 02:52:39 PM »
Halley's Comet's orbit brings it back to earth every 76 years or so, and humans have known this and correctly predicted its return for hundreds of years.  The time it takes to return is calculated using the standard theory of gravity, not Universal Acceleration.  How does FE theory explain the behavior of Halley's Comet?

Can you provide any evidence supporting your claims?

I could tell you that a nasty disease killed 1 million people between 1390-1405. Am I telling the truth or not? How can you know?
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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2014, 02:56:45 PM »
Halley's comet is a very small rocket launched by the NWO every 76 years. All "records" of this comet from before the founding of the conspiracy are fabricated.

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2014, 02:57:25 PM »
Halley's Comet's orbit brings it back to earth every 76 years or so, and humans have known this and correctly predicted its return for hundreds of years.  The time it takes to return is calculated using the standard theory of gravity, not Universal Acceleration.  How does FE theory explain the behavior of Halley's Comet?

Can you provide any evidence supporting your claims?

I could tell you that a nasty disease killed 1 million people between 1390-1405. Am I telling the truth or not? How can you know?
Please look it up and tell us the source you disagree with.

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2014, 02:59:09 PM »
Halley's comet is a very small rocket launched by the NWO every 76 years. All "records" of this comet from before the founding of the conspiracy are fabricated.

Next question.
That's another sorted.  Good, next please.

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2014, 03:06:01 PM »
Halley's Comet's orbit brings it back to earth every 76 years or so, and humans have known this and correctly predicted its return for hundreds of years.  The time it takes to return is calculated using the standard theory of gravity, not Universal Acceleration.  How does FE theory explain the behavior of Halley's Comet?

Can you provide any evidence supporting your claims?

I could tell you that a nasty disease killed 1 million people between 1390-1405. Am I telling the truth or not? How can you know?
Please look it up and tell us the source you disagree with.

How's about you or the OP provide sources?
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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2014, 01:51:49 AM »
Halley's Comet's orbit brings it back to earth every 76 years or so, and humans have known this and correctly predicted its return for hundreds of years.  The time it takes to return is calculated using the standard theory of gravity, not Universal Acceleration.  How does FE theory explain the behavior of Halley's Comet?
When this Edmund Halley first spotted this comet, how did he figure out it would return every 70 odd years?

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2014, 02:15:20 AM »
Halley's Comet's orbit brings it back to earth every 76 years or so, and humans have known this and correctly predicted its return for hundreds of years.  The time it takes to return is calculated using the standard theory of gravity, not Universal Acceleration.  How does FE theory explain the behavior of Halley's Comet?
When this Edmund Halley first spotted this comet, how did he figure out it would return every 70 odd years?
Interesting trend here where 'fe' people always ask for a poster to provide details when it is simple for them to look it up.  It's as if they are only prepared to discuss here rather than contact eg. a university to discuss.

Meanwhile - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halley's_Comet

Halley's returns to the inner Solar System have been observed and recorded by astronomers since at least 240 BC. Clear records of the comet's appearances were made by Chinese, Babylonian, and medieval European chroniclers, but were not recognized as reappearances of the same object at the time. The comet's periodicity was first determined in 1705 by English astronomer Edmond Halley, after whom it is now named.

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2014, 02:28:59 AM »
Halley's Comet's orbit brings it back to earth every 76 years or so, and humans have known this and correctly predicted its return for hundreds of years.  The time it takes to return is calculated using the standard theory of gravity, not Universal Acceleration.  How does FE theory explain the behavior of Halley's Comet?
When this Edmund Halley first spotted this comet, how did he figure out it would return every 70 odd years?
Interesting trend here where 'fe' people always ask for a poster to provide details when it is simple for them to look it up.  It's as if they are only prepared to discuss here rather than contact eg. a university to discuss.

Meanwhile - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halley's_Comet

Halley's returns to the inner Solar System have been observed and recorded by astronomers since at least 240 BC. Clear records of the comet's appearances were made by Chinese, Babylonian, and medieval European chroniclers, but were not recognized as reappearances of the same object at the time. The comet's periodicity was first determined in 1705 by English astronomer Edmond Halley, after whom it is now named.
I'll try again.

How did Halley know that the comet would come around every 70 odd years, as it's named after him. I'm not interested in when  spartacus saw it.

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2014, 02:38:17 AM »
How did Halley know that the comet would come around every 70 odd years, as it's named after him. I'm not interested in when  spartacus saw it.
It's all in the article - just read it rather than play your silly games.
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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2014, 03:10:02 AM »
Halley's comet is a very small rocket launched by the NWO every 76 years. All "records" of this comet from before the founding of the conspiracy are fabricated.

Next question.

No evidence. Rejected.

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2014, 06:50:59 AM »
Halley's Comet's orbit brings it back to earth every 76 years or so, and humans have known this and correctly predicted its return for hundreds of years.  The time it takes to return is calculated using the standard theory of gravity, not Universal Acceleration.  How does FE theory explain the behavior of Halley's Comet?

Can you provide any evidence supporting your claims?

I could tell you that a nasty disease killed 1 million people between 1390-1405. Am I telling the truth or not? How can you know?

Here a couple sources:

From http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/252831/Halleys-Comet:

"Halley’s Comet, also called Comet Halley,  the first comet whose return was predicted and, almost three centuries later, the first to be photographed up close by spacecraft. In 1705 the English astronomer Edmond Halley published a work that included his calculations showing that comets observed in 1531, 1607, and 1682 were really one comet and predicting that comet’s return in 1758. The comet was sighted late in 1758, passed perihelion (closest distance to the Sun) in March 1759, and was named in Halley’s honour."

From http://www.space.com/19878-halleys-comet.html:

"The comet is named after English astronomer Edmond Halley, who examined reports of a comet approaching Earth in 1531, 1607 and 1682. He concluded that these three comets were actually the same comet returning over and over again, and predicted the comet would come again in 1758."

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2014, 09:15:54 AM »

Can you provide any evidence supporting your claims?

Sir Edmund Halley accurately predicted that the comet seen in 1531, 1607, and 1682 would return in 1758 (which it did).  This was after his death, thus the comet was named in his honour in 1759.  It then reappeared in 1835, 1910, 1986, and is due to appear next on 28 July 2061.

When Comet Halley appeared in 164BCE and 87BCE it was noted in Babylonian records—which are now housed at the British Museum in London UK.

It also appeared prior to the 1066 invasion of England by William the Conqueror, who believed the comet heralded his future success. Thus was the comet included on the Bayeux Tapestry—which chronicles the invasion in William's honour.

The first extant, recorded appearance of  Comet Halley in the southern hemisphere is entered in the diary of the South African Cape governor on 8 September, 1682 .

So... can you provide any viable evidence that refutes these dates or facts?  Can you also provide your prediction for when it'll next appear based on flat earth science—and not round earth science?

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2014, 09:26:05 AM »
How did Halley know that the comet would come around every 70 odd years, as it's named after him.
Pattern recognition.
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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2014, 09:48:07 AM »

How did Halley know that the comet would come around every 70 odd years, as it's named after him. I'm not interested in when  spartacus saw it.

I've never seen anybody ask so many questions on a forum as you my friend.  Is there some reason you're unable to do any of your own research using Wiki or Google?  Why should we do your homework for you?

Anyway...  In 1705 Halley used Isaac Newton's new theory of gravitation to determine the orbits of comets from their recorded positions in the sky as a function of time. He found that the bright comets of 1531, 1607, and 1682 had almost the same orbits, and when he accounted for the gravitational perturbation on the cometary orbits from Jupiter and Saturn, he concluded that these were different appearances of the same comet. He then used his gravitational calculations to predict the return of this comet in 1758.

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2014, 10:04:09 AM »
I've never seen anybody ask so many questions on a forum as you my friend.
Asking lots of questions to learn something is not a bad thing.  However, asking lots of questions just to claim that the answers are BS and we're brain washed sheep to believe them is pretty much a waste of everyone's time.
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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2014, 11:03:19 AM »
How did Halley know that the comet would come around every 70 odd years, as it's named after him.
Pattern recognition.
I'd love you to elaborate on this.

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2014, 11:06:52 AM »

How did Halley know that the comet would come around every 70 odd years, as it's named after him. I'm not interested in when  spartacus saw it.

I've never seen anybody ask so many questions on a forum as you my friend.  Is there some reason you're unable to do any of your own research using Wiki or Google?  Why should we do your homework for you?

Anyway...  In 1705 Halley used Isaac Newton's new theory of gravitation to determine the orbits of comets from their recorded positions in the sky as a function of time. He found that the bright comets of 1531, 1607, and 1682 had almost the same orbits, and when he accounted for the gravitational perturbation on the cometary orbits from Jupiter and Saturn, he concluded that these were different appearances of the same comet. He then used his gravitational calculations to predict the return of this comet in 1758.

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So charts were drew with a comet in them, is this right? Just basically elaborate so I can get the picture of all this from these early times.
Obviously these things were locked away in a safe so he had access to the info, right?

I mean, I'm not familiar with the clap trap, so explain it if you can.

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2014, 11:08:50 AM »
How did Halley know that the comet would come around every 70 odd years, as it's named after him.
Pattern recognition.
I'd love you to elaborate on this.

For example: The train seems to come by every hour, therefore, I predict the train will come by an hour after the one that just came by.

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2014, 11:08:58 AM »
I've never seen anybody ask so many questions on a forum as you my friend.
Asking lots of questions to learn something is not a bad thing.  However, asking lots of questions just to claim that the answers are BS and we're brain washed sheep to believe them is pretty much a waste of everyone's time.
People have the choice not to answer, yet they do. I'm easy whether it's answered or not. I'm also going to call it bull shit if I think it is. That's just the way it is.

I think most of our history is bullshit, so naturally I'm not going to simply go along with it all, am I?

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2014, 11:11:46 AM »
How did Halley know that the comet would come around every 70 odd years, as it's named after him.
Pattern recognition.
I'd love you to elaborate on this.

For example: The train seems to come by every hour, therefore, I predict the train will come by an hour after the one that just came by.
That's fine for an hour or even a day or even a week or month, maybe every year, if it done this regular.
Once every 76 years of a life span around the same time is rather convenient, isn't it?

I think a light in the sky is a little different from a train on the ground, so it's not really relevant in the grand scheme of things.

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2014, 11:14:21 AM »
How did Halley know that the comet would come around every 70 odd years, as it's named after him.
Pattern recognition.
I'd love you to elaborate on this.

For example: The train seems to come by every hour, therefore, I predict the train will come by an hour after the one that just came by.
That's fine for an hour or even a day or even a week or month, maybe every year, if it done this regular.
Once every 76 years of a life span around the same time is rather convenient, isn't it?

I think a light in the sky is a little different from a train on the ground, so it's not really relevant in the grand scheme of things.

Because Hailey himself didn't have access to anyone else's data? /s

You pick the stupidest things to try and pick holes in. So easy.

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2014, 11:22:13 AM »
How did Halley know that the comet would come around every 70 odd years, as it's named after him.
Pattern recognition.
I'd love you to elaborate on this.

For example: The train seems to come by every hour, therefore, I predict the train will come by an hour after the one that just came by.
That's fine for an hour or even a day or even a week or month, maybe every year, if it done this regular.
Once every 76 years of a life span around the same time is rather convenient, isn't it?

I think a light in the sky is a little different from a train on the ground, so it's not really relevant in the grand scheme of things.

Because Hailey himself didn't have access to anyone else's data? /s

You pick the stupidest things to try and pick holes in. So easy.
So who stored all this data of this comet? I mean, I thought Halley was the one who discovered it, so what were the others doing? Were they just shouting, "wow look, there's a moving light in the sky somewhere, let's somehow plot it's co-ordinates and map it out explaining what we saw."
The next 76 years someone says, " oh wow, look at that moving light, let's map it out and store it so people can see where it was and what trajectory it's on....wooooo, wait a minute, look at this, I found another map 76 years earlier by someone who's co-ordinates are identical, maybe it's the same thing.....nahhhh, maybe not."

Along comes Halley who says, " wow, look at that light in the sky, I'll map this out and I'll sort it so people can see what it's all about....oh hang on a mo...I've found a few maps here 76 years ago and 76 years before that with the same charts, wow, this is the same light, it obviously comes around every 76 years or so."


What a complete and utter bag of stinking fish guts.

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2014, 11:25:24 AM »
How did Halley know that the comet would come around every 70 odd years, as it's named after him.
Pattern recognition.
I'd love you to elaborate on this.

For example: The train seems to come by every hour, therefore, I predict the train will come by an hour after the one that just came by.
That's fine for an hour or even a day or even a week or month, maybe every year, if it done this regular.
Once every 76 years of a life span around the same time is rather convenient, isn't it?

I think a light in the sky is a little different from a train on the ground, so it's not really relevant in the grand scheme of things.

Because Hailey himself didn't have access to anyone else's data? /s

You pick the stupidest things to try and pick holes in. So easy.
So who stored all this data of this comet? I mean, I thought Halley was the one who discovered it, so what were the others doing? Were they just shouting, "wow look, there's a moving light in the sky somewhere, let's somehow plot it's co-ordinates and map it out explaining what we saw."
The next 76 years someone says, " oh wow, look at that moving light, let's map it out and store it so people can see where it was and what trajectory it's on....wooooo, wait a minute, look at this, I found another map 76 years earlier by someone who's co-ordinates are identical, maybe it's the same thing.....nahhhh, maybe not."

Along comes Halley who says, " wow, look at that light in the sky, I'll map this out and I'll sort it so people can see what it's all about....oh hang on a mo...I've found a few maps here 76 years ago and 76 years before that with the same charts, wow, this is the same light, it obviously comes around every 76 years or so."


What a complete and utter bag of stinking fish guts.

You can't seriously be this dense.

Using the bus analogy that you seem to detest, I'll show you how this can be done.

John has been waiting at the bus for an hour. Tom meets John and John tells him that yesterday he waited for the bus for an hour. Tom concludes that the bus will soon arrive.

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2014, 12:03:45 PM »
You can't seriously be this dense.

Using the bus analogy that you seem to detest, I'll show you how this can be done.

John has been waiting at the bus for an hour. Tom meets John and John tells him that yesterday he waited for the bus for an hour. Tom concludes that the bus will soon arrive.
John has been waiting for a bus for 76 years. Tom meets John when he's 96 and John  tells him that 76 years ago he waited for a bus. Tom concludes that soon a bus will arrive.

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2014, 12:06:12 PM »
You can't seriously be this dense.

Using the bus analogy that you seem to detest, I'll show you how this can be done.

John has been waiting at the bus for an hour. Tom meets John and John tells him that yesterday he waited for the bus for an hour. Tom concludes that the bus will soon arrive.
John has been waiting for a bus for 76 years. Tom meets John when he's 96 and John  tells him that 76 years ago he waited for a bus. Tom concludes that soon a bus will arrive.

 ::)

Little to Tom's dismay, the bus actually did arrive. All around the world everyone was shocked that he was right, but low and behold, there was the bus. Therefore, the world concluded that Tom was right.

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2014, 12:15:29 PM »
You can't seriously be this dense.

Using the bus analogy that you seem to detest, I'll show you how this can be done.

John has been waiting at the bus for an hour. Tom meets John and John tells him that yesterday he waited for the bus for an hour. Tom concludes that the bus will soon arrive.
John has been waiting for a bus for 76 years. Tom meets John when he's 96 and John  tells him that 76 years ago he waited for a bus. Tom concludes that soon a bus will arrive.

 ::)

Little to Tom's dismay, the bus actually did arrive. All around the world everyone was shocked that he was right, but low and behold, there was the bus. Therefore, the world concluded that Tom was right.
Unfortunately to Tom's horror, he realised that the bus descibed by John was not the same bus that arrived. The gathered crowd of people told Tom that there are lots of buses that look a like but on closer inspection they are different.
Tom wasn't happy about this and went into a tantrum and tried to say it was the same, so the crowd jumped on him and beat him up with rotten cucumbers and butter nut squash and he ran home crying his eyes out... but not before old John threw his walking stick at his head and made him trip over and go head first into a lamp post, splitting his head wide open, then going on to kick all the rest of the lamp posts all the way home, believing they were all the same lamp post that had bust his head open.

Lukcily, old dame Dobb, patched his knob with vinegar and brown paper.

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2014, 12:16:19 PM »
Every now and again, people all round the world see comets. Throughout history those sightings were written down. Some time after the publication of Newton's laws, an astronomer realised that a few of those sightings could have been the same comet coming round again every 76 years. He checked whether the gravitation of the planets could account for the difference in time and place of the sightings each time and calculated that yes, they could and predicted the comet's return.

He was right.

He's still right.

It's not witchcraft, the info wasn't locked away in a vault and it's not locked away now. In fact, it couldn't be further from a vault seeing as it (and always has been) written on the actual sky :D
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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2014, 12:19:26 PM »
Every now and again, people all round the world see comets. Throughout history those sightings were written down. Some time after the publication of Newton's laws, an astronomer realised that a few of those sightings could have been the same comet coming round again every 76 years. He checked whether the gravitation of the planets could account for the difference in time and place of the sightings each time and calculated that yes, they could and predicted the comet's return.

He was right.

He's still right.

It's not witchcraft, the info wasn't locked away in a vault and it's not locked away now. In fact, it couldn't be further from a vault seeing as it (and always has been) written on the actual sky :D
It's a lovely story. It's just a shame that's all it is. It's like most of history. Good stories and very imaginative ideas to tell all of us little lambs, so we grow up into big fluffy sheep.

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Re: How does flat earth theory explain Halley's Comet?
« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2014, 12:25:40 PM »
Every now and again, people all round the world see comets. Throughout history those sightings were written down. Some time after the publication of Newton's laws, an astronomer realised that a few of those sightings could have been the same comet coming round again every 76 years. He checked whether the gravitation of the planets could account for the difference in time and place of the sightings each time and calculated that yes, they could and predicted the comet's return.

He was right.

He's still right.

It's not witchcraft, the info wasn't locked away in a vault and it's not locked away now. In fact, it couldn't be further from a vault seeing as it (and always has been) written on the actual sky :D
It's a lovely story. It's just a shame that's all it is. It's like most of history. Good stories and very imaginative ideas to tell all of us little lambs, so we grow up into big fluffy sheep.

You make topics and ask questions and when you are given perfectly good answers you just deny it. You don't even tell us why you deny it. You just call it clap trap and that is it. You're an awful debater.