Foucault pendulums

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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #60 on: May 24, 2014, 07:09:08 AM »
Well not exactly but it will suffice. Sketch 2 Please demonstrate how you can get your  pendulum to hang vertical in line picking up 360 & 180 degrease & picking up your centre of mass with the same line. You cant, you can only with a perfect spherical.There for your pendulum has a pivot point. which gives it an undue force. which means a pendulum only swings back & forth holding its line of swing hypothetically, not back & forth holding its line of swing in reality.       
Can you please translate your post from your native language of Retarded to English.
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #61 on: May 24, 2014, 07:27:42 AM »
In defence of vauxhull. Once I was asked to leave a building & had the police called & was unceremoniously escorted from the building . After I engaged the curator in conversation of Foucault pendulum being  a fraud & others viewing it became interested to hear what I had to say on the topic. Was it life threatening no, But their behaviour was very hostile & intimidating to insure I left the building & never returned.     

After viewing the pendulum, how did you determine it was a fraud? What did you say to the curator exactly?
I pointed out the FACT the  hanging attachment point on every pendulum on earth has a pivot & it was a lie & a nonsense to pretend it didn't.   
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #62 on: May 24, 2014, 07:51:22 AM »
I thought it would be easier for you to simply sketch it on a piece of paper. Then drawing  & post something a grade 1 primary school  kid could get their head around & save  you the embarrassment.
So presumably you're unable to produce a sketch yourself Charles in order to explain your theory?  One that a first-grader could apparently produce?

I couldn't comprehend your verbal explanation, which is why I asked you for a sketch.  You then asked me to produce a sketch illustrating your geometric theory.  Yeah... that sure makes a lot of sense LOL.
Well id like to, but that leaves my PC wide open to photo sharing sites having assess to my files. Not a smart thing to do.
What cant you  figure out Geoff ? Its not that hard to understand,  that a pendulum wont swing true unless the earth is a perfect!!! spherical  centre of mass.Its a bullshitting claim it will.
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #63 on: May 24, 2014, 08:36:39 AM »
I thought it would be easier for you to simply sketch it on a piece of paper. Then drawing  & post something a grade 1 primary school  kid could get their head around & save  you the embarrassment.
So presumably you're unable to produce a sketch yourself Charles in order to explain your theory?  One that a first-grader could apparently produce?

I couldn't comprehend your verbal explanation, which is why I asked you for a sketch.  You then asked me to produce a sketch illustrating your geometric theory.  Yeah... that sure makes a lot of sense LOL.
Well id like to, but that leaves my PC wide open to photo sharing sites having assess to my files. Not a smart thing to do.
What cant you  figure out Geoff ? Its not that hard to understand,  that a pendulum wont swing true unless the earth is a perfect!!! spherical  centre of mass.Its a bullshitting claim it will.
You upload to sharing sites, what's the problem?

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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #64 on: May 24, 2014, 08:55:04 AM »
It's unclear to me what exactly it is you're trying to argue. It sounds like you are saying that the Foucault pendulum does what it does because the Earth is not perfectly spherical. That the earth is only approximately spherical is an uncontroversial fact.

Charles, can you explain though how it is that the Foucault pendulum rotates exactly once per day?
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #65 on: May 24, 2014, 09:35:20 AM »
It's unclear to me what exactly it is you're trying to argue. It sounds like you are saying that the Foucault pendulum does what it does because the Earth is not perfectly spherical. That the earth is only approximately spherical is an uncontroversial fact.

Charles, can you explain though how it is that the Foucault pendulum rotates exactly once per day?
Not on its own it doesn't. Just anther lie told to you. Its regulated 
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #66 on: May 24, 2014, 09:50:02 AM »
It's unclear to me what exactly it is you're trying to argue. It sounds like you are saying that the Foucault pendulum does what it does because the Earth is not perfectly spherical. That the earth is only approximately spherical is an uncontroversial fact.

Charles, can you explain though how it is that the Foucault pendulum rotates exactly once per day?
Not on its own it doesn't. Just anther lie told to you. Its regulated
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #67 on: May 24, 2014, 09:51:06 AM »
Charles, can you explain though how it is that the Foucault pendulum rotates exactly once per day?

I have never been able to see one, but I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that they're real for the sake of argument. They could easily be powered by an electric motor, and you'd be none the wiser.
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #68 on: May 24, 2014, 10:13:46 AM »
Assess what you have to work with. You have a centre of mass not centre. Guaranteed rotation, it also  affords  you an adjustable cam angle for your pivot to increase or retard speed of rotation. You also have travel of pendulum which can be increased or retarded via a combination of distance of pendulum travel, weight & momentum. To keep the pendulum continual  swinging to the  consistent timing arrangement you have set. magnets are used. theses magnets can also be placed to aid in fine tuning the swing & rotation.            .     
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #69 on: May 24, 2014, 10:30:34 AM »
Charles, can you explain though how it is that the Foucault pendulum rotates exactly once per day?

I have never been able to see one, but I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that they're real for the sake of argument. They could easily be powered by an electric motor, and you'd be none the wiser.

There's one in just about every science museum, but why not build your own - many years ago we had one in my school suspended from the (high) roof; all it was made from was some fishing wire and a hook weight. Doing it over staircases is quite affective too. In order to see the effect with a shorter pendulum like this, one easy technique is swing it quite hard and place some objects standing up around the low point of the pendulum.

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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #70 on: May 24, 2014, 10:36:25 AM »
Charles, can you explain though how it is that the Foucault pendulum rotates exactly once per day?

I have never been able to see one, but I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that they're real for the sake of argument. They could easily be powered by an electric motor, and you'd be none the wiser.

There's one in just about every science museum, but why not build your own - many years ago we had one in my school suspended from the (high) roof; all it was made from was some fishing wire and a hook weight. Doing it over staircases is quite affective too. In order to see the effect with a shorter pendulum like this, one easy technique is swing it quite hard and place some objects standing up around the low point of the pendulum.

Are you going to type something worth reading or just keep telling me to build my own? For your information, I have built my own and it only worked with an electric motor. I also built one that worked (according to your idea of "worked") with magnets. Without something guiding the pendulum, it doesn't work. Why don't you build your own?
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #71 on: May 24, 2014, 10:45:18 AM »
I have never been able to see one

For your information, I have built my own

Massive contradiction - are you going to post something true? There's no point trolling because it just wastes everybodies time; we did build our own, and it worked just fine with no magnets and no motor either - just a good push and a high ceiling.

Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #72 on: May 24, 2014, 10:49:51 AM »
I have never been able to see one

For your information, I have built my own

Massive contradiction - are you going to post something true? There's no point trolling because it just wastes everybodies time; we did build our own, and it worked just fine with no magnets and no motor either - just a good push and a high ceiling.
How long did it swing for ?
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #73 on: May 24, 2014, 10:54:26 AM »
I have never been able to see one

For your information, I have built my own

Massive contradiction - are you going to post something true? There's no point trolling because it just wastes everybodies time; we did build our own, and it worked just fine with no magnets and no motor either - just a good push and a high ceiling.
How long did it swing for ?

We were doing other experiments whilst it was "doing its thing"; it wasn't timed or anything but at a rough guess it must have been a good 15 minutes. I've got photos of those physics labs hiding somewhere so I'll try and dig them out :)

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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #74 on: May 24, 2014, 11:04:21 AM »
I have never been able to see one

For your information, I have built my own

Massive contradiction - are you going to post something true? There's no point trolling because it just wastes everybodies time; we did build our own, and it worked just fine with no magnets and no motor either - just a good push and a high ceiling.

You're misunderstanding me. I have not been able to see one in one of these facilities you've mentioned. Like I said before, when trying to observe one in a facility I was forcefully removed from the premises. That doesn't mean I haven't built my own, which I have.

If you're calling me a liar, then I could just as easily call you one. You claim you've built one as well:

we did build our own, and it worked just fine with no magnets and no motor either

Please post pictures of this pendulum you've built, please.
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #75 on: May 24, 2014, 11:13:53 AM »
Why don't you post some pictures of yours, Vauxhall?

If you post something that isn't straight from google this time, I'll make my own and post pics of that too. We can be Foucault buddies.
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #76 on: May 24, 2014, 12:01:11 PM »
here's no point trolling because it just wastes everybodies time;
I think you may have come to the wrong forum.
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #77 on: May 24, 2014, 12:04:07 PM »
Why don't you post some pictures of yours, Vauxhall?

If you post something that isn't straight from google this time, I'll make my own and post pics of that too. We can be Foucault buddies.

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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #78 on: May 24, 2014, 12:09:13 PM »
Our pendulum was of course used during a lesson - not exactly the time where people naturally pull out cameras; I was however a bit of an unusual student because I made a video about the history of the school itself. From this I do have an unusually large amount of photos and videos of the outside of the buildings, so I can at least give a rough idea of how high/wide the room was. The labs are your classical 1960's gable quadrangle (no false ceilings - the lab goes right up to the apex of the roof).

This one here gives a good idea of how tall the building is:


This shows the quadrangle from above, marking the camera direction of the above photo and the swing direction of the pendulum:

The pendulum itself swings along the lab, just about wall to wall, and is anchored to the apex of the roof.

Another view along the front:


I pretty certainly have photos of the labs inside too, but I have a strong feeling they'll just be passed off as "the pendulum isn't moving so therefore it's fake" or whatever :P

here's no point trolling because it just wastes everybodies time;
I think you may have come to the wrong forum.
Lol very true - I'm not sure why I'm even bothering but hey it's a nice bit of evening entertainment reading some of the stuff that goes on here :P
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #79 on: May 24, 2014, 12:14:14 PM »
Nice pictures of a school and an overhead rip from Google Earth...

What does this prove, exactly?  ::)
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #80 on: May 24, 2014, 12:21:44 PM »
Nice pictures of a school and an overhead rip from Google Earth...

What does this prove, exactly?  ::)

"..so I can at least give a rough idea of how high/wide the room was"

One of the obvious limitations of a Foucault pendulum is it requires height and space; Here I'm simply trying to show you that the lab had sufficient space to do it inside. I'm also actively looking for further pictures - these are just what I've been pulling up as I go. Do you have at least any pictures of the location or setup of your pendulum as Clown asked? :)

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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #81 on: May 24, 2014, 12:23:41 PM »
Nice pictures of a school and an overhead rip from Google Earth...

What does this prove, exactly?  ::)

"..so I can at least give a rough idea of how high/wide the room was"

One of the obvious limitations of a Foucault pendulum is it requires height and space; Here I'm simply trying to show you that the lab had sufficient space to do it inside. I'm also actively looking for further pictures - these are just what I've been pulling up as I go. Do you have at least any pictures of the location or setup of your pendulum as Clown asked? :)

Please post a picture of your pendulum.

I already posted a picture of mine. It's a few posts back. Pay attention.
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #82 on: May 24, 2014, 12:29:52 PM »
Nice pictures of a school and an overhead rip from Google Earth...

What does this prove, exactly?  ::)

"..so I can at least give a rough idea of how high/wide the room was"

One of the obvious limitations of a Foucault pendulum is it requires height and space; Here I'm simply trying to show you that the lab had sufficient space to do it inside. I'm also actively looking for further pictures - these are just what I've been pulling up as I go. Do you have at least any pictures of the location or setup of your pendulum as Clown asked? :)

Please post a picture of your pendulum.

I already posted a picture of mine. It's a few posts back. Pay attention.

There is an empty post a few posts back so I'm not sure if that was some kind of joke, or you made a typo. Apart from that though no you didn't - there are no other pendulum photos or links in this whole thread other than one posted by V. I've just double checked. That was a straight pointless lie so I'm not sure what you're even trying to achieve? :P
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #83 on: May 24, 2014, 12:50:20 PM »
Why don't you post some pictures of yours, Vauxhall?

If you post something that isn't straight from google this time, I'll make my own and post pics of that too. We can be Foucault buddies.



Here's the post. I see the picture just fine.

Maybe your ISP is blocking the picture?
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #84 on: May 24, 2014, 12:52:38 PM »
The image link is broken:
http://i.imgur.com/Lh83o84dfK.jpg

Imgur works fine, your link is literally to an imgur fail page, not to a real gallery page where my ISP is just showing me a missing picture.

Why don't you try linking to an actual picture?
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #85 on: May 24, 2014, 12:54:50 PM »
Why don't you post some pictures of yours, Vauxhall?

If you post something that isn't straight from google this time, I'll make my own and post pics of that too. We can be Foucault buddies.


Here's the post. I see the picture just fine.

Maybe your ISP is blocking the picture?
It's pretty clear that you didn't post a real image Vauxhall, so what's the point?
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #86 on: May 24, 2014, 12:55:37 PM »
Why don't you post some pictures of yours, Vauxhall?

If you post something that isn't straight from google this time, I'll make my own and post pics of that too. We can be Foucault buddies.



Here's the post. I see the picture just fine.

Maybe your ISP is blocking the picture?

Nope, imgur itself reports the image as either missing or not there at your link: http://i.imgur.com/Lh83o84dfK.jpg - ISP blocks are at the DNS level (i.e. imgur wouldn't load at all).



I have 2 ISPs though so for the sake of clarity I'll try the other one. Edit: nope, nothing.
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #87 on: May 24, 2014, 01:00:20 PM »
The image link is broken:
http://i.imgur.com/Lh83o84dfK.jpg

Imgur works fine, your link is literally to an imgur fail page, not to a real gallery page where my ISP is just showing me a missing picture.

Why don't you try linking to an actual picture?

It shows up for me. Maybe you're doing something wrong.

So you all are masters at hotlinks and imgur url code? Give me a break.  ::)
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #88 on: May 24, 2014, 01:02:20 PM »
Clearly the punchline to Vauxhall's little joke is that imgur is part of the conspiracy.
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #89 on: May 24, 2014, 01:04:04 PM »
Quote from: V
It's pretty clear that you didn't post a real image Vauxhall, so what's the point?
It's called trolling. But don't tell Vauxhall, he gets upset.

Vaux, if you knew how the internet worked you'd be better at this. Google has never cached that URL, so my guess is that you just made it up. Anyone got any other guesses?
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