Foucault pendulums

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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2014, 03:41:48 PM »
I have posted about seeing the Foucault Pendulum before. I do have pictures from the trip and a picture of the Foucault pendulum, but they are on my desktop which has not been plugged in since I moved. Too bad for you.

It's pretty hard to plug in a desktop computer, huh?  ::)

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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2014, 04:00:42 PM »
Should I report you to the teacher for that? I'm not sure I've got a hang of the etiquette.

Of course I'm not.

I have a question though, do you believe that robots stop me from seeing the sky? Or is that a lie?
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2014, 04:03:52 PM »
I have a question though, do you believe that robots stop me from seeing the sky? Or is that a lie?

What kind of robots are we talking about here?
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« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2014, 05:07:54 PM »
In defence of vauxhull. Once I was asked to leave a building & had the police called & was unceremoniously escorted from the building . After I engaged the curator in conversation of Foucault pendulum being  a fraud & others viewing it became interested to hear what I had to say on the topic. Was it life threatening no, But their behaviour was very hostile & intimidating to insure I left the building & never returned.     
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2014, 05:24:24 PM »
You're aware that what we're discussing is the fact that pendulum arcs rotate each day? The way they would do on a rotating earth.

The way they wouldn't do on a stationary earth. There's no need to "prove we're on a spherical" (or rotating) earth first, we're discussing an observation that's easily explained and predicted by the earth rotating. Does FET predict the behaviour of Foucault's pendulum? Now that it's been observed, can it explain it?
Are you aware that earth is not a perfect spherical centre of mass that means gravity is not pulling centre to a spherical  & it is total nonsense to imply that the swinging pendulum progressing in a rotatable motion is in any way related to a rotating earth. It acutely proves the opposite.       
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2014, 05:26:18 PM »
What kind of robots are we talking about here?
Tiny ones. Most of them are no more than 3cm tall. But there are so many that I still can't get past. Plus there's the big one to consider.

In defence of vauxhull. Once I was asked to leave a building & had the police called & was unceremoniously escorted from the building . After I engaged the curator in conversation of Foucault pendulum being  a fraud
Did you get agitated? You get fairly worked up on here even with anonymity, unlimited time to compose replies and the option to walk away at any time.

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Are you aware that earth is not a perfect spherical centre of mass that means gravity is not pulling centre to a spherical  & it is total nonsense to imply that the swinging pendulum progressing in a rotatable motion is in any way related to a rotating earth. It acutely proves the opposite.
I've personally linked you (twice) to real measurements of how spherical the earth is. So you know what I'm aware of - it's pretty much a sphere, but not quite. What I don't understand is how the centrifugal force acting at 39.6° to the vertical on the slightly oblate earth is somehow a qualitatively different thing from it acting at 39.1° on an ideal spherical body.

Btw, this is a serious question, what is your first language? It might help us communicate.
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2014, 05:36:01 PM »
I have posted about seeing the Foucault Pendulum before. I do have pictures from the trip and a picture of the Foucault pendulum, but they are on my desktop which has not been plugged in since I moved. Too bad for you.

It's pretty hard to plug in a desktop computer, huh?  ::)...
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2014, 05:44:12 PM »
Tiny ones. Most of them are no more than 3cm tall. But there are so many that I still can't get past. Plus there's the big one to consider.

I'm not sure about the "big one" you refer to, but I do know that the Government does release tiny robots (they are actually called nanobots or simply: nanomachines) into the air via chemtrails in the sky. They cause mind altering effects on the human brain. They also put Nanomachines into drinking water. If you stop drinking tap water and drink straight from a private stream or lake you will start to experience feelings and emotions that you never thought you had, it will also increase your IQ tenfold within weeks. Also, if you get air from oxygen machines (which you would need to steal from hospitals) and stop breathing city air you will experience the same thing.



I'm space limited. You are the king of asking for evidence while never presenting any so you will just have to believe me. 

I provide a lot of references and sources for everything that I claim. I'm always correct. Do you think I would just go on these boards and make things up? It's not my problem you choose to ignore the evidence I present.

Space limited is not a satisfying answer. All you need to do is plug your tower into the wall and hook a monitor to it. You can do this at any outlet in your home. Since it seems like you need some help, here are what outlets look like:


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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2014, 05:53:43 PM »
Hang on, I claim to be under house arrest by a horde of unidentified little robots and you try to help me figure out what they might be, but sokarul claims to be one of millions of people who've seen a large pendulum and you demand evidence? Funny place this.

Also, I thought there was no such thing as oxygen, only lack-of-phlogiston.

Btw, the big one has six manipulating limbs, I think of them as three legs and three arms because of how it usually stands, but they're all identical. It's limb-span is a little over 2 metres.
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2014, 06:00:31 PM »

I'm space limited. You are the king of asking for evidence while never presenting any so you will just have to believe me. 

I provide a lot of references and sources for everything that I claim. I'm always correct. Do you think I would just go on these boards and make things up? It's not my problem you choose to ignore the evidence I present.
You have actually never provided evidence.
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Apparently you don't know what space means. I went from a two bedroom apartment to one room in a house.

This thread is about Foucault Pendulums. A few of us have seen them. No evidence has been provided to discredit them from working, only opinions. No one has explained why a Faucault Pendulum rotate differently at different latitudes. A rotating earth does though.
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2014, 06:25:00 PM »
What kind of robots are we talking about here?
Tiny ones. Most of them are no more than 3cm tall. But there are so many that I still can't get past. Plus there's the big one to consider.

In defence of vauxhull. Once I was asked to leave a building & had the police called & was unceremoniously escorted from the building . After I engaged the curator in conversation of Foucault pendulum being  a fraud
Did you get agitated? You get fairly worked up on here even with anonymity, unlimited time to compose replies and the option to walk away at any time.

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Are you aware that earth is not a perfect spherical centre of mass that means gravity is not pulling centre to a spherical  & it is total nonsense to imply that the swinging pendulum progressing in a rotatable motion is in any way related to a rotating earth. It acutely proves the opposite.
I've personally linked you (twice) to real measurements of how spherical the earth is. So you know what I'm aware of - it's pretty much a sphere, but not quite. What I don't understand is how the centrifugal force acting at 39.6° to the vertical on the slightly oblate earth is somehow a qualitatively different thing from it acting at 39.1° on an ideal spherical body.

Btw, this is a serious question, what is your first language? It might help us communicate.
Well with shit talkers its very trying at times. Would you care to point to where the earth centre of mass is on your pear. So we can confirm your mathematical configurations, to be more then just metaphors.   
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2014, 06:42:43 PM »
Not perfect means  not perfect, It doesn't mean perfect . That's as good as someone claiming they never soiled their pants. They only slightly soiled their pants & We wont worry about including any of that shit. hoping no one will notice the smell.   
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2014, 07:16:40 PM »
The earth is a regular oblate spheroid which has its centre of mass located at exactly the same point as its centre of gravity (or CoG).  And if one connects the CoG of any body on or above the earth's surface with the CoG of the earth, that line (x-y) will be perpendicular to a tangent drawn at its intersection with the surface of the earth.  It doesn't make any difference as to where the body is located on the earth—10ºS or 45ºN or at the equator—simple geometry proves this to be true.

The line x-y will also correspond exactly with the line of action of the force of gravity acting on the body on the earth's surface.

And the force of gravity is the only externally applied force acting upon the Foucault pendulum.  There are zero horizontal forces acting upon it, and which explains why the plane of its swing arc never varies.  (For the purposes of the exercise, the tiny frictional resistance caused by the air is ignored.)

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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2014, 07:17:31 PM »
Would you care to point to where the earth centre of mass is on your pear. So we can confirm your mathematical configurations, to be more then just metaphors.
You keep asking me that, and I keep pointing you to the internationally recognised standards and I'm not sure what other answer you're looking for. Let's try again.

The centre of mass of the earth is below you. It's down. That's not a joke, wherever all the 'down's meet, that's the centre of mass. I mean, where else would it be?

A huge amount of effort has been put into accurately measuring the geoid over the years because of it's value to surveying, meteorology, cartography and many other things. As always, this information isn't a secret that you need to pry out of me, it's on the internet. The geoid is the gravitational surface of the earth rather than the physical one. The earth isn't a uniform density, nor is it -as you are fond of pointing out- a perfect sphere. That means that gravity is slightly variable in strength and direction as you move around the surface - if a dense area is to your right, gravity will be slightly off to the right, if the dense area is the other side of the world, gravity will be a little weaker. However, it still all comes down to a point. The centre of mass.

Are you unsure about how an irregular shape can have a centre of mass? Or do you want me to say that it's 40 miles beneath Nairobi? Or what? You ask where it is, but the answer never seems to satisfy. If none of that was enlightening, instead of asking for a fourth time, maybe tell me what's inadequate about the previous answers.
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2014, 07:23:40 PM »

Have you ever tried to see one for yourself? I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing that happened to me happened to you.

Yes.  This one HERE at the University of Sydney in Australia.

I also recommend this particular site for its clear and graphic explanations of this sort of stuff.

Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #45 on: May 20, 2014, 09:31:09 PM »
The earth is a regular oblate spheroid which has its centre of mass located at exactly the same point as its centre of gravity (or CoG).  And if one connects the CoG of any body on or above the earth's surface with the CoG of the earth, that line (x-y) will be perpendicular to a tangent drawn at its intersection with the surface of the earth.  It doesn't make any difference as to where the body is located on the earth—10ºS or 45ºN or at the equator—simple geometry proves this to be true.

The line x-y will also correspond exactly with the line of action of the force of gravity acting on the body on the earth's surface.

And the force of gravity is the only externally applied force acting upon the Foucault pendulum.  There are zero horizontal forces acting upon it, and which explains why the plane of its swing arc never varies.  (For the purposes of the exercise, the tiny frictional resistance caused by the air is ignored.)
Draw a perfect circle find the centre point. Then divide the circle in to 4 equal parts using lines that protect well past its circumference. then draw 4 triangles in lined up & corresponding to those projected lines. Now draw a obscure circle divide it. then draw 4 triangles in line & lined up correspondence to those projected lines. Have a good hard look at the two drawings. A simple drawing demonstrates the proclaimed reasoning is pure Piffle.         
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #46 on: May 20, 2014, 11:42:48 PM »
The earth is a regular oblate spheroid which has its centre of mass located at exactly the same point as its centre of gravity (or CoG).  And if one connects the CoG of any body on or above the earth's surface with the CoG of the earth, that line (x-y) will be perpendicular to a tangent drawn at its intersection with the surface of the earth.  It doesn't make any difference as to where the body is located on the earth—10ºS or 45ºN or at the equator—simple geometry proves this to be true.

The line x-y will also correspond exactly with the line of action of the force of gravity acting on the body on the earth's surface.

And the force of gravity is the only externally applied force acting upon the Foucault pendulum.  There are zero horizontal forces acting upon it, and which explains why the plane of its swing arc never varies.  (For the purposes of the exercise, the tiny frictional resistance caused by the air is ignored.)
Draw a perfect circle find the centre point. Then divide the circle in to 4 equal parts using lines that protect well past its circumference. then draw 4 triangles in lined up & corresponding to those projected lines. Now draw a obscure circle divide it. then draw 4 triangles in line & lined up correspondence to those projected lines. Have a good hard look at the two drawings. A simple drawing demonstrates the proclaimed reasoning is pure Piffle.         
That makes no sense, what is your point? Is it about the earth not being a completely perfect sphere?

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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #47 on: May 21, 2014, 02:15:57 AM »
Draw a perfect circle find the centre point. Then divide the circle in to 4 equal parts using lines that protect well past its circumference. then draw 4 triangles in lined up & corresponding to those projected lines. Now draw a obscure circle divide it. then draw 4 triangles in line & lined up correspondence to those projected lines. Have a good hard look at the two drawings. A simple drawing demonstrates the proclaimed reasoning is pure Piffle.         

Why should I draw anything to help you explain your nonsensical geometry Charles.  Do the drawing yourself.

Or are you unable to?  How embarrassing LOL.

Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #48 on: May 21, 2014, 06:12:10 AM »
In defence of vauxhull. Once I was asked to leave a building & had the police called & was unceremoniously escorted from the building .

I'm guessing this isn't the only time this has happened to you... ::)

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« Reply #49 on: May 21, 2014, 06:14:18 AM »
I'm not sure about the "big one" you refer to, but I do know that the Government does release tiny robots (they are actually called nanobots or simply: nanomachines) into the air via chemtrails in the sky. They cause mind altering effects on the human brain. They also put Nanomachines into drinking water. If you stop drinking tap water and drink straight from a private stream or lake you will start to experience feelings and emotions that you never thought you had, it will also increase your IQ tenfold within weeks. Also, if you get air from oxygen machines (which you would need to steal from hospitals) and stop breathing city air you will experience the same thing.

I think you need to dial down your persona's "unhinged" setting somewhat.  Or is it stuck on 11?
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #50 on: May 21, 2014, 10:41:19 AM »
Tiny ones. Most of them are no more than 3cm tall. But there are so many that I still can't get past. Plus there's the big one to consider.

I'm not sure about the "big one" you refer to, but I do know that the Government does release tiny robots (they are actually called nanobots or simply: nanomachines) into the air via chemtrails in the sky. They cause mind altering effects on the human brain. They also put Nanomachines into drinking water. If you stop drinking tap water and drink straight from a private stream or lake you will start to experience feelings and emotions that you never thought you had, it will also increase your IQ tenfold within weeks. Also, if you get air from oxygen machines (which you would need to steal from hospitals) and stop breathing city air you will experience the same thing.



I'm space limited. You are the king of asking for evidence while never presenting any so you will just have to believe me. 

I provide a lot of references and sources for everything that I claim. I'm always correct. Do you think I would just go on these boards and make things up? It's not my problem you choose to ignore the evidence I present.

Space limited is not a satisfying answer. All you need to do is plug your tower into the wall and hook a monitor to it. You can do this at any outlet in your home. Since it seems like you need some help, here are what outlets look like:


Or you might have these



Let me know when you've got it hooked up, buddy.
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #51 on: May 23, 2014, 03:20:45 AM »
The earth is a regular oblate spheroid which has its centre of mass located at exactly the same point as its centre of gravity (or CoG).  And if one connects the CoG of any body on or above the earth's surface with the CoG of the earth, that line (x-y) will be perpendicular to a tangent drawn at its intersection with the surface of the earth.  It doesn't make any difference as to where the body is located on the earth—10ºS or 45ºN or at the equator—simple geometry proves this to be true.

The line x-y will also correspond exactly with the line of action of the force of gravity acting on the body on the earth's surface.

And the force of gravity is the only externally applied force acting upon the Foucault pendulum.  There are zero horizontal forces acting upon it, and which explains why the plane of its swing arc never varies.  (For the purposes of the exercise, the tiny frictional resistance caused by the air is ignored.)
Draw a perfect circle find the centre point. Then divide the circle in to 4 equal parts using lines that protect well past its circumference. then draw 4 triangles in lined up & corresponding to those projected lines. Now draw a obscure circle divide it. then draw 4 triangles in line & lined up correspondence to those projected lines. Have a good hard look at the two drawings. A simple drawing demonstrates the proclaimed reasoning is pure Piffle.         
That makes no sense, what is your point? Is it about the earth not being a completely perfect sphere?
The point is one of pivot. A pivoting point. It means with out a perfect sphere centre of mass , your pendulum  pivots as it swings.       
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #52 on: May 23, 2014, 03:31:53 AM »
Draw a perfect circle find the centre point. Then divide the circle in to 4 equal parts using lines that protect well past its circumference. then draw 4 triangles in lined up & corresponding to those projected lines. Now draw a obscure circle divide it. then draw 4 triangles in line & lined up correspondence to those projected lines. Have a good hard look at the two drawings. A simple drawing demonstrates the proclaimed reasoning is pure Piffle.         

Why should I draw anything to help you explain your nonsensical geometry Charles.  Do the drawing yourself.

Or are you unable to?  How embarrassing LOL.
I thought it would be easer for you to simply sketch it on a piece of paper. Then drawing  & post something a grade 1 primary school  kid could get their head around & save  you the embarrassment. 
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #53 on: May 23, 2014, 05:57:11 AM »
I thought it would be easier for you to simply sketch it on a piece of paper. Then drawing  & post something a grade 1 primary school  kid could get their head around & save  you the embarrassment.
So presumably you're unable to produce a sketch yourself Charles in order to explain your theory?  One that a first-grader could apparently produce?

I couldn't comprehend your verbal explanation, which is why I asked you for a sketch.  You then asked me to produce a sketch illustrating your geometric theory.  Yeah... that sure makes a lot of sense LOL.


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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #54 on: May 23, 2014, 06:02:02 AM »
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Draw a perfect circle find the centre point. Then divide the circle in to 4 equal parts using lines that protect well past its circumference. then draw 4 triangles in lined up & corresponding to those projected lines. Now draw a obscure circle divide it. then draw 4 triangles in line & lined up correspondence to those projected lines. Have a good hard look at the two drawings. A simple drawing demonstrates the proclaimed reasoning is pure Piffle.


I followed what I assumed were your instructions, if that's not what you were getting at, let me know. If this was what you were envisioning, can you clear up where this eviscerates all of human knowledge?
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #55 on: May 23, 2014, 07:16:15 AM »
Well not exactly but it will suffice. Sketch 2 Please demonstrate how you can get your  pendulum to hang vertical in line picking up 360 & 180 degrease & picking up your centre of mass with the same line. You cant, you can only with a perfect spherical.There for your pendulum has a pivot point. which gives it an undue force. which means a pendulum only swings back & forth holding its line of swing hypothetically, not back & forth holding its line of swing in reality.         
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #56 on: May 23, 2014, 07:41:47 AM »
Well not exactly but it will suffice. Sketch 2 Please demonstrate how you can get your  pendulum to hang vertical in line picking up 360 & 180 degrease & picking up your centre of mass with the same line. You cant, you can only with a perfect spherical.There for your pendulum has a pivot point. which gives it an undue force. which means a pendulum only swings back & forth holding its line of swing hypothetically, not back & forth holding its line of swing in reality.       
Can you please translate your post from your native language of Retarded to English.
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #57 on: May 23, 2014, 07:56:00 AM »
These are pendulums? I thought they were spherical and not-quite-spherical earths.

So, you're asserting that anything not rotationally symmetric (or radially symmetric in all directions?) about the axis you're suspending it from will do what? Swing irregularly? Rotate?

What is your native language? I don't speak anything but English well enough to discuss this but between them, my friends can probably help out in a few.
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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #58 on: May 23, 2014, 08:02:59 AM »

Likewise... I can't understand Charles' last comments either.  As I asked you before Charles, can you please provide us with a sketch of your own?  It'd simplify things a lot.

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Re: Foucault pendulums
« Reply #59 on: May 23, 2014, 01:46:52 PM »
In defence of vauxhull. Once I was asked to leave a building & had the police called & was unceremoniously escorted from the building . After I engaged the curator in conversation of Foucault pendulum being  a fraud & others viewing it became interested to hear what I had to say on the topic. Was it life threatening no, But their behaviour was very hostile & intimidating to insure I left the building & never returned.     

After viewing the pendulum, how did you determine it was a fraud? What did you say to the curator exactly?
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