Theory: the moon, sun and stars are just reflections

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determine the mean distance of the moon to the earth within 2cm to 3cm using the retroreflectors on the moon.

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Ok, that clears it up. I just didn't understand where the 2-3cm came into play earlier. But now I'm with you!

As you said, we were bouncing lasers off the moon before the Apollo missions.  So, we spent billions of dollars to put reflectors on the moon that are totally useless.  Yeah, right.  You think this story is completely true?  How many times could we have bounced a laser off of the moon for that same amount of money?

Because the Apollo program's sole purpose was to place a reflector on the moon. 

The fact that photons are returned back to their source regardless of the angle does not make the reflectors useless, it makes them invaluable. A rare and random return of photons off the moon's surface is what's useless, in practical terms.

That said, considering the moon revolves around the Earth in the same direction as the Earth spins, there is no reason to doubt the claim, especially when the experiment's been done more than once. You're talking as though the moon rotates in the opposite direction, in which case, sure, the beam would return much farther from the source than stated.

It doesn't matter if your moon rotates around the Earth. The fact is, if your Earth spins at 1038 mph at the so called equator, then a laser beam aimed at the moons so called retro reflector would miss the reflector due to the rotational speed of Earth is that 1.4 seconds it supposedly takes to reach it, because the laser is on the move in that 1.4 second time frame.

Why people hang onto this is baffling.
You see, now the argument is, "oh it spreads out and only one potion of it needs to hit", yet the dipsticks in the observatory go on like it's trying to find a needle in a haystack.

The trouble with blatant liars who get found out, is, they have to keep adding to the lies when flaws appear and they do this by adding in more and more in your face bull shit.

The laser beam has turned into basically shining a big super bright torch at the moon now, so it ceases to become a laser beam as we know it, because for it to stay a laser beam, as we know one, they know that the fake Earth spin story, nullifies the accuracy of a pinpoint hit.

 If I believed in a god I would swear on a bible that there is no such thing on any so called moon and no such laser has ever been shone at anything of a body in space. The most that's ever happened is shining a laser into the sky and hitting the dome, then reflected back. I'm actually being kind in saying that.

Your spinning Earth destroys the moon bull shit, it's as simple and as plain as that.

Quote from: jroa on June 10, 2014, 02:29:47 PM

As you said, we were bouncing lasers off the moon before the Apollo missions.  So, we spent billions of dollars to put reflectors on the moon that are totally useless.  Yeah, right.  You think this story is completely true?  How many times could we have bounced a laser off of the moon for that same amount of money?

Because the Apollo program's sole purpose was to place a reflector on the moon. 

The fact that photons are returned back to their source regardless of the angle does not make the reflectors useless, it makes them invaluable. A rare and random return of photons off the moon's surface is what's useless, in practical terms.

You don't even know what a photon is, except that you're told it's a photon. Stop blindly believing in crap and gain some factual knowledge.

Good old sceptimatic, pot calling kettle black.

Good old sceptimatic, pot calling kettle black.

One liner Rama. Always counted upon to jump right in to let me know about myself. Good on you kid. 

Quote from: Big Blue Marble on June 10, 2014, 01:50:54 PM

That said, considering the moon revolves around the Earth in the same direction as the Earth spins, there is no reason to doubt the claim, especially when the experiment's been done more than once. You're talking as though the moon rotates in the opposite direction, in which case, sure, the beam would return much farther from the source than stated.

It doesn't matter if your moon rotates around the Earth. The fact is, if your Earth spins at 1038 mph at the so called equator, then a laser beam aimed at the moons so called retro reflector would miss the reflector due to the rotational speed of Earth is that 1.4 seconds it supposedly takes to reach it, because the laser is on the move in that 1.4 second time frame.

Why people hang onto this is baffling.
You see, now the argument is, "oh it spreads out and only one potion of it needs to hit", yet the dipsticks in the observatory go on like it's trying to find a needle in a haystack.

The trouble with blatant liars who get found out, is, they have to keep adding to the lies when flaws appear and they do this by adding in more and more in your face bull shit.

The laser beam has turned into basically shining a big super bright torch at the moon now, so it ceases to become a laser beam as we know it, because for it to stay a laser beam, as we know one, they know that the fake Earth spin story, nullifies the accuracy of a pinpoint hit.

 If I believed in a god I would swear on a bible that there is no such thing on any so called moon and no such laser has ever been shone at anything of a body in space. The most that's ever happened is shining a laser into the sky and hitting the dome, then reflected back. I'm actually being kind in saying that.

Your spinning Earth destroys the moon bull shit, it's as simple and as plain as that.

There are people on the "RE side" that come in here not knowing what they are talking about. It doesn't mean that we don't actually shoot lasers at reflectors on the moon. It just means that not everyone knows the method in which it is done. It also means that there are people who are willing to just make up how it is done. I don't really care if those people are full of shit because we can look up how it is actually done. You make it very clear that you don't know how to use the internet and look up things on your own.

I do realize that it seems like an amazing feat for humanity to be able to shoot a laser at a reflector with such accuracy but your incredulity is of no concern. It's pretty warranted considering that it actually is amazing. Fortunately, despite your incredulity, there are explanations that obey the laws of physics and there are machines that exist and are capable of performing these tasks.

I'm also incredulous when I read about your dome hypothesis. It is also warranted but not because it is amazing. I'm in disbelief because it completely ignores everything about reality.

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Good old sceptimatic, pot calling kettle black.

One liner Rama. Always counted upon to jump right in to let me know about myself. Good on you kid. 

Sorry that we do that. It's just very clear that you aren't aware of how crazy you are. So it's important to remind you. Especially considering that dome theories and the like don't exist anywhere but your mind. So your crazy mind is worth discussing if we talk about your hypotheses.

There are people on the "RE side" that come in here not knowing what they are talking about. It doesn't mean that we don't actually shoot lasers at reflectors on the moon. It just means that not everyone knows the method in which it is done. It also means that there are people who are willing to just make up how it is done. I don't really care if those people are full of shit because we can look up how it is actually done. You make it very clear that you don't know how to use the internet and look up things on your own.

No one knows the method because it's all bull shit, seriously it is.
You think you know all about it because, as I said before, it's all there in your fiction booklets and videos, aided by the myth aiders of TV, better known as the mythbusters for the sheeps satisfaction.
It's no surprise that you buy into it all. I don't blame people for doing so. Let's face it: people like to believe in amazing things and special human endeavours. Hollywood provides that in movies and in real time fiction movies that are passed off as factual.
Your moon bouncing lasers are a figment of someones imagination, which now occupies your and many others.

I do realize that it seems like an amazing feat for humanity to be able to shoot a laser at a reflector with such accuracy but your incredulity is of no concern. It's pretty warranted considering that it actually is amazing. Fortunately, despite your incredulity, there are explanations that obey the laws of physics and there are machines that exist and are capable of performing these tasks.

It's time to wake up and smell the coffee.

I'm also incredulous when I read about your dome hypothesis. It is also warranted but not because it is amazing. I'm in disbelief because it completely ignores everything about reality.

You and most others will never understand my hypothesis because you are all glued to the same bull crap that's been spun. You all live on gravity as if it's a live giving drip feed, knowing that to cut the feed tube will render you a stiff, so stick to it like glue and guarantee yourself that your mind is made up with your spoon fed bull shit science, given to you with a smile by those that probably don't know much better.
Scientific arrogance is a mind killer for the spoonfed wannabees. To dare to look at another hypothesis would render you a lunatic and we don't want that, do we?

Amazing feats of bull shit and head busting formulas about space and such like are good for keeping people baffled. It's also good for the ego of the wanabees, because they can reel them off to unsuspecting newbies to the science world, who will also be baffled to hell but eager enough to memorise the very same clap trap.

Scientific mainstream theorists: don't you just love them? They can think up crap and do absolutely nothing else about the crap they thought up, because it's fantasy.
Most of them can't even fasten their own shoelaces but they will sit there and tell you all about black holes and the big bang.
Most of that type of work is good for fictional films. It has no bearing on real life.
You buy into all that, which is fair enough. I don't, because I know for a fact that it's lies at worst and brainwashed fantasy at best.

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Quote from: Rama Set on June 11, 2014, 06:21:30 AM

Good old sceptimatic, pot calling kettle black.

One liner Rama. Always counted upon to jump right in to let me know about myself. Good on you kid. 

Sorry that we do that. It's just very clear that you aren't aware of how crazy you are. So it's important to remind you. Especially considering that dome theories and the like don't exist anywhere but your mind. So your crazy mind is worth discussing if we talk about your hypotheses.

Discuss my mind all you want in the lounge or angry ranting or even pm. It would be fine. The problem is, you all don't have the balls to do that because you can't handle the comebacks. I refrain from it in here, yet you people don't because you are all well aware of how much I'm disliked even by the flat Earthers and the mods and your goal is to goad me into exploding in the higher forums so I get the required ban, which then leaves the door open for you to ridicule the remaining ones free from me, because I scare you. You won't admit that of course but I do scare you.

You don't have the balls to take me on in the AR forum or pm, do you? 

Quote from: rottingroom on June 11, 2014, 06:24:47 AM

There are people on the "RE side" that come in here not knowing what they are talking about. It doesn't mean that we don't actually shoot lasers at reflectors on the moon. It just means that not everyone knows the method in which it is done. It also means that there are people who are willing to just make up how it is done. I don't really care if those people are full of shit because we can look up how it is actually done. You make it very clear that you don't know how to use the internet and look up things on your own.

No one knows the method because it's all bull shit, seriously it is.
You think you know all about it because, as I said before, it's all there in your fiction booklets and videos, aided by the myth aiders of TV, better known as the mythbusters for the sheeps satisfaction.
It's no surprise that you buy into it all. I don't blame people for doing so. Let's face it: people like to believe in amazing things and special human endeavours. Hollywood provides that in movies and in real time fiction movies that are passed off as factual.
Your moon bouncing lasers are a figment of someones imagination, which now occupies your and many others.

Quote from: rottingroom on June 11, 2014, 06:24:47 AM

I do realize that it seems like an amazing feat for humanity to be able to shoot a laser at a reflector with such accuracy but your incredulity is of no concern. It's pretty warranted considering that it actually is amazing. Fortunately, despite your incredulity, there are explanations that obey the laws of physics and there are machines that exist and are capable of performing these tasks.

It's time to wake up and smell the coffee.

Quote from: rottingroom on June 11, 2014, 06:24:47 AM

I'm also incredulous when I read about your dome hypothesis. It is also warranted but not because it is amazing. I'm in disbelief because it completely ignores everything about reality.

You and most others will never understand my hypothesis because you are all glued to the same bull crap that's been spun. You all live on gravity as if it's a live giving drip feed, knowing that to cut the feed tube will render you a stiff, so stick to it like glue and guarantee yourself that your mind is made up with your spoon fed bull shit science, given to you with a smile by those that probably don't know much better.
Scientific arrogance is a mind killer for the spoonfed wannabees. To dare to look at another hypothesis would render you a lunatic and we don't want that, do we?

Amazing feats of bull shit and head busting formulas about space and such like are good for keeping people baffled. It's also good for the ego of the wanabees, because they can reel them off to unsuspecting newbies to the science world, who will also be baffled to hell but eager enough to memorise the very same clap trap.

Scientific mainstream theorists: don't you just love them? They can think up crap and do absolutely nothing else about the crap they thought up, because it's fantasy.
Most of them can't even fasten their own shoelaces but they will sit there and tell you all about black holes and the big bang.
Most of that type of work is good for fictional films. It has no bearing on real life.
You buy into all that, which is fair enough. I don't, because I know for a fact that it's lies at worst and brainwashed fantasy at best.

Please respond with an argument. Stop posting your anti-globular novels. All I do is skim and look for actual arguments.

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Quote from: Rama Set on June 11, 2014, 06:21:30 AM

Good old sceptimatic, pot calling kettle black.

One liner Rama. Always counted upon to jump right in to let me know about myself. Good on you kid. 

Sorry that we do that. It's just very clear that you aren't aware of how crazy you are. So it's important to remind you. Especially considering that dome theories and the like don't exist anywhere but your mind. So your crazy mind is worth discussing if we talk about your hypotheses.

Discuss my mind all you want in the lounge or angry ranting or even pm. It would be fine. The problem is, you all don't have the balls to do that because you can't handle the comebacks. I refrain from it in here, yet you people don't because you are all well aware of how much I'm disliked even by the flat Earthers and the mods and your goal is to goad me into exploding in the higher forums so I get the required ban, which then leaves the door open for you to ridicule the remaining ones free from me, because I scare you. You won't admit that of course but I do scare you.

You don't have the balls to take me on in the AR forum or pm, do you? 

Your fucked up mind is a discussion relevant to your awful theories. I don't wish to just rant about it. It's perfectly relevant to discussions about made-up theories.

Use angry ranting and you can swear all you want, Mr angry.

When you actually make sense, I'll be happy to deal with you in a normal manner.

Use angry ranting and you can swear all you want, Mr angry.

When you actually make sense, I'll be happy to deal with you in a normal manner.

But I'm not angry.

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Use angry ranting and you can swear all you want, Mr angry.

When you actually make sense, I'll be happy to deal with you in a normal manner.

But I'm not angry.

Ok My mild, let's carry on with the discussions where I'm more correct than you and your cronies.
Bring something solid to the table in future that makes sense and stop regurgitating your masters written nonsense.
A ship hand does not make a person a world expert, it makes you a sight seeing entity, that's all, so let's not try and be something you clearly are not, ok. Fair enough?

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Use angry ranting and you can swear all you want, Mr angry.

When you actually make sense, I'll be happy to deal with you in a normal manner.

But I'm not angry.

Ok My mild, let's carry on with the discussions where I'm more correct than you and your cronies.
Bring something solid to the table in future that makes sense and stop regurgitating your masters written nonsense.
A ship hand does not make a person a world expert, it makes you a sight seeing entity, that's all, so let's not try and be something you clearly are not, ok. Fair enough?

No argument from you, yet again.

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Quote from: Rama Set on June 11, 2014, 06:21:30 AM

Good old sceptimatic, pot calling kettle black.

One liner Rama. Always counted upon to jump right in to let me know about myself. Good on you kid. 

Sorry that we do that. It's just very clear that you aren't aware of how crazy you are. So it's important to remind you. Especially considering that dome theories and the like don't exist anywhere but your mind. So your crazy mind is worth discussing if we talk about your hypotheses.

Scepti's mental state is actually the only thing worth discussing in his hypotheses because it is the only thing we have evidence for.

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As you said, we were bouncing lasers off the moon before the Apollo missions.  So, we spent billions of dollars to put reflectors on the moon that are totally useless.  Yeah, right.  You think this story is completely true?  How many times could we have bounced a laser off of the moon for that same amount of money?

Because the Apollo program's sole purpose was to place a reflector on the moon. 

The fact that photons are returned back to their source regardless of the angle does not make the reflectors useless, it makes them invaluable. A rare and random return of photons off the moon's surface is what's useless, in practical terms.

You don't even know what a photon is, except that you're told it's a photon. Stop blindly believing in crap and gain some factual knowledge.

Actually, I detected evidence of photons in the sixth grade, coming from a piece of Fiesta dinnerware. I was using a highly technological piece of equipment called a Geiger counter. You can also detect them for yourself at home by putting a piece of aluminum foil in your microwave.

True I was told by a "conspirator", aka my science teacher, that they were photons, instead of inventing some bullshit in my own brain and pretending that's really the truth like you do.

But in his defense, he did explain it in terms that an 11 year old could understand so you should accept it.

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Good old sceptimatic, pot calling kettle black.

One liner Rama. Always counted upon to jump right in to let me know about myself. Good on you kid. 

Sorry that we do that. It's just very clear that you aren't aware of how crazy you are. So it's important to remind you. Especially considering that dome theories and the like don't exist anywhere but your mind. So your crazy mind is worth discussing if we talk about your hypotheses.

Scepti's mental state is actually the only thing worth discussing in his hypotheses because it is the only thing we have evidence for.

Well discuss it in the louge or angry ranting if you want to put your point forward aggressively. 

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As you said, we were bouncing lasers off the moon before the Apollo missions.  So, we spent billions of dollars to put reflectors on the moon that are totally useless.  Yeah, right.  You think this story is completely true?  How many times could we have bounced a laser off of the moon for that same amount of money?

Because the Apollo program's sole purpose was to place a reflector on the moon. 

The fact that photons are returned back to their source regardless of the angle does not make the reflectors useless, it makes them invaluable. A rare and random return of photons off the moon's surface is what's useless, in practical terms.

You don't even know what a photon is, except that you're told it's a photon. Stop blindly believing in crap and gain some factual knowledge.

Actually, I detected evidence of photons in the sixth grade, coming from a piece of Fiesta dinnerware. I was using a highly technological piece of equipment called a Geiger counter.

True I was told by a "conspirator", aka my science teacher, that they were photons, instead of inventing some bullshit in my own brain and pretending that's really the truth like you do.

But in his defense, he did explain it in terms that an 11 year old could understand so you should accept it.

No photons, no particles, just waves. That's all. Just waves.

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As you said, we were bouncing lasers off the moon before the Apollo missions.  So, we spent billions of dollars to put reflectors on the moon that are totally useless.  Yeah, right.  You think this story is completely true?  How many times could we have bounced a laser off of the moon for that same amount of money?

Because the Apollo program's sole purpose was to place a reflector on the moon. 

The fact that photons are returned back to their source regardless of the angle does not make the reflectors useless, it makes them invaluable. A rare and random return of photons off the moon's surface is what's useless, in practical terms.

You don't even know what a photon is, except that you're told it's a photon. Stop blindly believing in crap and gain some factual knowledge.

Actually, I detected evidence of photons in the sixth grade, coming from a piece of Fiesta dinnerware. I was using a highly technological piece of equipment called a Geiger counter.

True I was told by a "conspirator", aka my science teacher, that they were photons, instead of inventing some bullshit in my own brain and pretending that's really the truth like you do.

But in his defense, he did explain it in terms that an 11 year old could understand so you should accept it.

No photons, no particles, just waves. That's all. Just waves.

Photons are waves.

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Some crazy chick with big hair having no idea what she is talking about doesn't mean anything.

No photons, no particles, just waves. That's all. Just waves.

Hand waving?

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Good old sceptimatic, pot calling kettle black.

One liner Rama. Always counted upon to jump right in to let me know about myself. Good on you kid. 

Sorry that we do that. It's just very clear that you aren't aware of how crazy you are. So it's important to remind you. Especially considering that dome theories and the like don't exist anywhere but your mind. So your crazy mind is worth discussing if we talk about your hypotheses.

Scepti's mental state is actually the only thing worth discussing in his hypotheses because it is the only thing we have evidence for.

Well discuss it in the louge or angry ranting if you want to put your point forward aggressively. 

Why?  I am serious.  When discussing your points the first question should be, "Can we trust your judgement?" because as we look back at your vast body of work, we see someone who is inconsistent sometimes to the point of incoherence, creates hypotheses, seemingly on the spot because "they make sense" to you, whatever that is worth, and like all good paranoids, believe you are right and everyone is out to get you.  You are the single largest source of error in everything you present.  I got angry when I first met you, but not anymore.  You are too repetitive to upset me anymore.

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Quote from: Rama Set on June 11, 2014, 06:21:30 AM

Good old sceptimatic, pot calling kettle black.

One liner Rama. Always counted upon to jump right in to let me know about myself. Good on you kid. 

Sorry that we do that. It's just very clear that you aren't aware of how crazy you are. So it's important to remind you. Especially considering that dome theories and the like don't exist anywhere but your mind. So your crazy mind is worth discussing if we talk about your hypotheses.

Scepti's mental state is actually the only thing worth discussing in his hypotheses because it is the only thing we have evidence for.

Well discuss it in the louge or angry ranting if you want to put your point forward aggressively. 

Why?  I am serious.  When discussing your points the first question should be, "Can we trust your judgement?" because as we look back at your vast body of work, we see someone who is inconsistent sometimes to the point of incoherence, creates hypotheses, seemingly on the spot because "they make sense" to you, whatever that is worth, and like all good paranoids, believe you are right and everyone is out to get you.  You are the single largest source of error in everything you present.  I got angry when I first met you, but not anymore.  You are too repetitive to upset me anymore.

Repetitive eh? The only repetitive I see is the silly attempts are psycho-analyzing me, which fails every time but doesn't stop the repetitiveness from you and others.
Take a chill pill, relax and have a stiff drink. Put your feet up and learn from the best. Learn the reality of life and don't get stuck in the world of lies that you have been all your life.

..... then a laser beam aimed at the moons so called retro reflector would miss the reflector due to the rotational speed of Earth is that 1.4 seconds it supposedly takes to reach it, because the laser is on the move in that 1.4 second time frame.

Nope.  All completely erroneous (as usual).

The laser is aimed at the retroreflector (and not a "so-called" reflector as you call it) in exactly the same way a computer-controlled equatorial-mount telescope works.  So the laser's principle axis can be pointed directly at the retroreflector with centimetre precision—regardless of the motion of the earth and the diurnal motion of the moon.

Can you also tell us—hypothetically—how long a laser beam would take to reach the moon in the flat earth model of space?  You seem prepared to accept an actual timing of approximately 1.4 to 1.7 seconds, but that's for a round earth model of the earth and the moon.

Or are you happy to accept round earth astrophysics in this case?

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Quote from: Rama Set on June 11, 2014, 06:21:30 AM

Good old sceptimatic, pot calling kettle black.

One liner Rama. Always counted upon to jump right in to let me know about myself. Good on you kid. 

Sorry that we do that. It's just very clear that you aren't aware of how crazy you are. So it's important to remind you. Especially considering that dome theories and the like don't exist anywhere but your mind. So your crazy mind is worth discussing if we talk about your hypotheses.

Scepti's mental state is actually the only thing worth discussing in his hypotheses because it is the only thing we have evidence for.

Well discuss it in the louge or angry ranting if you want to put your point forward aggressively. 

Why?  I am serious.  When discussing your points the first question should be, "Can we trust your judgement?" because as we look back at your vast body of work, we see someone who is inconsistent sometimes to the point of incoherence, creates hypotheses, seemingly on the spot because "they make sense" to you, whatever that is worth, and like all good paranoids, believe you are right and everyone is out to get you.  You are the single largest source of error in everything you present.  I got angry when I first met you, but not anymore.  You are too repetitive to upset me anymore.

Repetitive eh? The only repetitive I see is the silly attempts are psycho-analyzing me, which fails every time but doesn't stop the repetitiveness from you and others.
Take a chill pill, relax and have a stiff drink. Put your feet up and learn from the best. Learn the reality of life and don't get stuck in the world of lies that you have been all your life.

ITT, the psycho being psychoanalyzed thinks he isn't psycho. That never happens.

Quote from: sceptimatic on June 11, 2014, 06:14:05 AM

..... then a laser beam aimed at the moons so called retro reflector would miss the reflector due to the rotational speed of Earth is that 1.4 seconds it supposedly takes to reach it, because the laser is on the move in that 1.4 second time frame.

Nope.  All completely erroneous (as usual).

The laser is aimed at the retroreflector (and not a "so-called" reflector as you call it) in exactly the same way a computer-controlled equatorial-mount telescope works.  So the laser's principle axis can be pointed directly at the retroreflector with centimetre precision—regardless of the motion of the earth and the diurnal motion of the moon.

Can you also tell us—hypothetically—how long a laser beam would take to reach the moon in the flat earth model of space?  You seem prepared to accept an actual timing of approximately 1.4 to 1.7 seconds, but that's for a round earth model of the earth and the moon.

Or are you happy to accept round earth astrophysics in this case?

To destroy your bull shit Earth I have to play by the bull shit rules of the silly calculations, which is why I used your silly speed of light and your silly moon distance.

I don't know how long it would take a laser beam to come back on my Earth because I've never fired one and neither have you.

A beam of light is only as strong as the power it gives out over distance, so your speed of light can drop right into the bin where it belongs.
Your little fake retro reflectors on your fake moon can all go back into the story book of fiction.

Grow up and stop believing in lies for crying out loud. You're old enough to know better but here you are arguing for liars.

sceptimatic continues to avoid posting real arguments. Nothing but ad hominems all day.

Hey, I admit to ad hominems too but at least that isn't my only trick,

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Good old sceptimatic, pot calling kettle black.

One liner Rama. Always counted upon to jump right in to let me know about myself. Good on you kid. 

Sorry that we do that. It's just very clear that you aren't aware of how crazy you are. So it's important to remind you. Especially considering that dome theories and the like don't exist anywhere but your mind. So your crazy mind is worth discussing if we talk about your hypotheses.

Scepti's mental state is actually the only thing worth discussing in his hypotheses because it is the only thing we have evidence for.

Well discuss it in the louge or angry ranting if you want to put your point forward aggressively. 

Why?  I am serious.  When discussing your points the first question should be, "Can we trust your judgement?" because as we look back at your vast body of work, we see someone who is inconsistent sometimes to the point of incoherence, creates hypotheses, seemingly on the spot because "they make sense" to you, whatever that is worth, and like all good paranoids, believe you are right and everyone is out to get you.  You are the single largest source of error in everything you present.  I got angry when I first met you, but not anymore.  You are too repetitive to upset me anymore.

Repetitive eh? The only repetitive I see is the silly attempts are psycho-analyzing me, which fails every time but doesn't stop the repetitiveness from you and others.
Take a chill pill, relax and have a stiff drink. Put your feet up and learn from the best. Learn the reality of life and don't get stuck in the world of lies that you have been all your life.

ITT, the psycho being psychoanalyzed thinks he isn't psycho. That never happens.

What's the matter? Am I getting under you global Earther people's skin?
It's amazing how someone can be called a psycho for not believing something, isn't it? 

If you don't believe in a globe people, you are a psycho. Remember that. If you don't follow what you are told to, you are deranged and have mental issues. That's the world we live in.