How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?

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How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« on: April 27, 2014, 10:01:05 AM »
Gravimeters are devices that measure the acceleration of gravity in a certain place. They are extremely accurate, measuring variations of even 10-12 g. For example by knowing gravity variations somewhere you can know the rock types there are beneath the surface, and find certain minerals or petroleum.
If according to FET the Earth has a constant acceleration of 9,81 m/s2, how can this work? Are all geologists in the conspiracy too?
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Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2014, 07:33:32 PM »
Gravimeters are devices that measure the acceleration of gravity in a certain place. They are extremely accurate, measuring variations of even 10-12 g. For example by knowing gravity variations somewhere you can know the rock types there are beneath the surface, and find certain minerals or petroleum.
If according to FET the Earth has a constant acceleration of 9,81 m/s2, how can this work? Are all geologists in the conspiracy too?
In theory every location on the flat earth would have to accelerate perfectly at fixed constant. If not the FE would break up. Now we can measure the gravitation force on the whole earth and map it.  Flat earth busted!

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Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2014, 12:16:20 AM »
How about a brief explanation how this gravimeter calculates this gravity?
What I'd like to know is the mechanism inside it and what it actually does to show gravity?

Just a simple and brief explanation will suffice.

Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2014, 12:48:16 AM »
How bout you find out for yourself? Why do you require people to give you explanations? The post isn't about how they work. It's about how can what they show be coincided with a flat earth. ( hint, they can't)

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Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2014, 12:50:15 AM »
How bout you find out for yourself? Why do you require people to give you explanations? The post isn't about how they work. It's about how can what they show be coincided with a flat earth. ( hint, they can't)
It was a questions and answers, so I asked a question. I just thought one of you expert globalites would know how they work. Obviously I was mistaken, as it appears you don't know how they work.
Fair enough.

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Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2014, 02:12:27 AM »
Most common relative gravimeters are spring-based. A spring-based relative gravimeter is basically a weight on a spring, and by measuring the amount by which the weight stretches the spring, local gravity can be measured. However, the strength of the spring must be calibrated by placing the instrument in a location with a known gravitational acceleration.

The most accurate relative gravimeters are superconducting gravimeters, which operate by suspending a liquid helium cooled diamagnetic superconducting niobium sphere in an extremely stable magnetic field; the current required to generate the magnetic field that suspends the niobium sphere is proportional to the strength of the Earth's gravitational field. The superconducting gravimeter achieves sensitivities of one nanogal, one thousandth of one billionth (10-12) of the Earth surface gravity. In a demonstration of the sensitivity of the superconducting gravimeter, Virtanen (2006), describes how an instrument at Metsähovi, Finland, detected the gradual increase in surface gravity as workmen cleared snow from its laboratory roof.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravimeter
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Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2014, 08:38:07 AM »
It's amazing stuff this gravity, isn't it.  ;D

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Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2014, 08:53:59 AM »
It's amazing stuff this gravity, isn't it.  ;D
It says a lot. UA could not work if parts of the FE is acceleration more than other places.

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Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2014, 09:12:19 AM »
It's amazing stuff this gravity, isn't it.  ;D
Gravity isn't nearly as amazing, or mysterious, as denpresure.
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Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2014, 09:18:48 AM »
It's amazing stuff this gravity, isn't it.  ;D
Gravity isn't nearly as amazing, or mysterious, as denpresure.
Well denpressure can be explained in a basic way as to what it actually is. Gravity has this magical quality that no one knows what the hell it is and weirdly it cannot be explained.
Anyway, I won't harp on about it. I think it's fairly clear.

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Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2014, 09:23:19 AM »
It's amazing stuff this gravity, isn't it.  ;D
Gravity isn't nearly as amazing, or mysterious, as denpresure.
I agree, scepti's denpressure is far better. At least I laughed a lot more when he explained denpressure than when my physics teacher explained gravity to me.
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Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2014, 09:25:47 AM »
It's amazing stuff this gravity, isn't it.  ;D
Gravity isn't nearly as amazing, or mysterious, as denpresure.
Well denpressure can be explained in a basic way as to what it actually is. Gravity has this magical quality that no one knows what the hell it is and weirdly it cannot be explained.
Anyway, I won't harp on about it. I think it's fairly clear.
But gravimeters work. How is this possible with your denpressure theory?
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Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2014, 09:37:54 AM »
It's amazing stuff this gravity, isn't it.  ;D
Gravity isn't nearly as amazing, or mysterious, as denpresure.
Well denpressure can be explained in a basic way as to what it actually is. Gravity has this magical quality that no one knows what the hell it is and weirdly it cannot be explained.
Anyway, I won't harp on about it. I think it's fairly clear.
But gravimeters work. How is this possible with your denpressure theory?
Because they are actually measuring the amount of denpressure  ::) I can see why scepti gets impatient with you lot.
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Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2014, 09:47:17 AM »
What if some parts of the Earth are semipermeable and the UA simply makes some things lighter than others? 

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Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2014, 10:55:16 AM »
What if some parts of the Earth are semipermeable and the UA simply makes some things lighter than others?
The slight differences over time could be why mountains exist.


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Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2014, 12:20:58 PM »
What if some parts of the Earth are semipermeable and the UA simply makes some things lighter than others?
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It is like having the g force in a semipermeable car or airplane?

Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2014, 12:22:21 PM »
Mountains are due to fluctuations in the hyper-density-layer below the earth's crust.
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Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2014, 12:31:15 PM »
It is not about differences over time, but differences between different places at the same time. You know, they find petroleum and certain minerals using that. Submarines use them as well to navigate, to map the bottom of the sea.
What if some parts of the Earth are semipermeable and the UA simply makes some things lighter than others? 
If the "Flat Earth" didn't accelerate uniformly, it would break apart.
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Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2014, 04:09:34 PM »
We are not talking strictly about acceleration variances here.  We are talking about perceived acceleration variances. 

Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2014, 04:15:47 PM »
We are not talking strictly about acceleration variances here.  We are talking about perceived acceleration variances.
We are talking about measured differences at the same time in different places.

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Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2014, 04:24:10 PM »
So according to the UA theory, how is it possible that we measure different accelerations in different places and we manage to use this to find some minerals, for example? Or its variation with altitude? Please explain further.
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Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2014, 05:45:21 PM »
We are not talking strictly about acceleration variances here.  We are talking about perceived acceleration variances.
The idea is there are definably variances in gravity all over the world and there should be. The same applies to the moon. It has been mapped also. If the earth were flat the acceleration HAS to be constant all over the flat earth. You can't have England accelerate a bit faster or slower than America. The whole earth would break up.

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Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2014, 07:13:22 PM »
As I said earlier, it is possible that the Earth is permeable and that different locations allow different amounts of UA to seep through, giving slightly different g readings in different locations.  I am not stating this as a fact; I am only speculating.   

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Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2014, 07:30:30 PM »
As I understand it, the UA is pushing the flat earth upwards.  What property of this "pushing force" leaking through would allow for these subtle, but measurable, changes in g reading and why wouldn't the different rates of acceleration tear apart the flat earth?
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Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2014, 07:43:46 PM »
Are you saying that matter is completely un-impermeable?  You do realize the distance in between atoms, right? 

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Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2014, 08:11:13 PM »
Are you saying that matter is completely un-impermeable? 
No, I am saying that you are completely incapable of reading, comprehending and replying to straightforward questions.
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Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2014, 08:19:24 PM »
Would a force be able to reach things on the other side of a solid object? Can forces penetrate through things that otherwise seem solid? 

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Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2014, 09:34:24 PM »
Would a force be able to reach things on the other side of a solid object? Can forces penetrate through things that otherwise seem solid?
Depends. Can a person move their couch by pushing on a wall? No.

As I said earlier, it is possible that the Earth is permeable and that different locations allow different amounts of UA to seep through, giving slightly different g readings in different locations.  I am not stating this as a fact; I am only speculating.
Sounds like theoretical physics to me.
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Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2014, 06:11:28 AM »
As I said earlier, it is possible that the Earth is permeable and that different locations allow different amounts of UA to seep through, giving slightly different g readings in different locations.  I am not stating this as a fact; I am only speculating.
I know you are speculating but you can't seep Acceleration to be faster or slower. It is like having 50 kids on the buss. They will all feel acceleration all at the same time.

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Re: How do gravimeters work in the Flat Earth?
« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2014, 07:05:30 AM »
Would a force be able to reach things on the other side of a solid object? Can forces penetrate through things that otherwise seem solid?
Are you saying that the flat earth is a solid object?  Doesn't the FE have a liquid magma layer?
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