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You have an air of the permanoob about you Jroa.

What qualities would you say separate a regular poster from a permanoob?

Wait, you follow jroa around just to insult him, and I'm the one who needs to get over myself? You criticize him for being sarcastic, but you're not any better. I don't understand why you dislike him so much. The REers constantly insult the FEers, but when you get some back it's always such a big deal.

Everyone who comes around and posts for more than a few days is a regular poster (a great number of people have joined the forum, made a couple insulting posts and then left forever, they're not regulars). Regular posters who never get over being angry at the FES, or never see the humor, or never ever see how lots of RE are just flat out wrong about things, or even after several years still pop into threads and ask the same damn questions, or never bother to become part of the community - they are the permanoobs.

Wait, you follow jroa around just to insult him

Nope - that's just silly.

I don't understand why you dislike him so much.

I don't dislike him.    

It's all a complete waste of time, just something to do whilst I drink my coffee - that's why I said you need to get over yourself.  You aren't writing the Geneva Convention on Human Rights here.

The REers constantly insult the FEers, but when you get some back it's always such a big deal.

I couldn't give a crap whom insults whom.  I'm a big boy and can leave any time I like.  The only think that niggles me is the hypocrisy: having a go at posters for derailing or sarcasm or whatever, when the only mod is worse than anyone.  Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone, and all that shite.

Everyone who comes around and posts for more than a few days is a regular poster (a great number of people have joined the forum, made a couple insulting posts and then left forever, they're not regulars). Regular posters who never get over being angry at the FES, or never see the humor, or never ever see how lots of RE are just flat out wrong about things, or even after several years still pop into threads and ask the same damn questions, or never bother to become part of the community - they are the permanoobs.

Ah, right.  And here is me thinking it was just a pejorative term for people you didn't like, or who didn't want to join the big in-joke, or simply don't find it funny.

Yeah, we know we're not writing the Geneva Convention, which is why it's so baffling why in one post you'll insult jroa for cracking a joke and in another you'll defend your bizarre obsession with him by calling him a hypocrite. You really should lighten up.

Permanoob is usually only applied to people who've been here a few years and still post like they don't know the answers to the questions they've already asked hundreds of times. They don't even like the forum or the people here much. So yeah, they don't find anything about the forum funny, and don't seem to enjoy themselves here. It has nothing to do with whether I like them or not.

Yeah, we know we're not writing the Geneva Convention, which is why it's so baffling why in one post you'll insult jroa for cracking a joke and in another you'll defend your bizarre obsession with him by calling him a hypocrite. You really should lighten up.

Permanoob is usually only applied to people who've been here a few years and still post like they don't know the answers to the questions they've already asked hundreds of times. They don't even like the forum or the people here much. So yeah, they don't find anything about the forum funny, and don't seem to enjoy themselves here. It has nothing to do with whether I like them or not.

What is this site for? Read the FAQ then leave....

Why do you ask that? Your question doesn't even make sense.

Why do you ask that? Your question doesn't even make sense.

New people are not going to spend hours reading the FAQ and most of the thread to get their answer. The debates goes on and on and changes forever. If they have a question we should all help them. Is that too hard to do?

When someone comes here, year after year, asking the same questions and getting angry when they receive the same answers over and over, they are a permanoob.  I have only been here for 3 years.  However, it only took me a few months to figure this place out.  I did not need to post the same questions over and over and get mad at getting the same responses over and over.  I made sure I never entered the permanoob zone. 

When someone comes here, year after year, asking the same questions and getting angry when they receive the same questions over and over, they are a permanoob.  I have only been here for 3 years.  However, it only took me a few months to figure this place out.  I did not need to post the same questions over and over and get mad at getting the same responses over and over.  I made sure I never entered the permanoob zone.

I agree but the new ones don't know what is going on. You either give them a welcome or they leave with the notion that the FE people are rude. What is the mission of this site?

That is an angry noob, not a permanoob.

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on April 25, 2014, 03:58:26 PM

Why do you ask that? Your question doesn't even make sense.

New people are not going to spend hours reading the FAQ and most of the thread to get their answer. The debates goes on and on and changes forever. If they have a question we should all help them. Is that too hard to do?

Well, new people should spend a little time reading the FAQ at least. Also, it's not about new people asking questions, it's about people who've been here for ages asking the same questions over an over. There are a few people who seem hostile to this forums existence... which is baffling to me, because when I go to a forum and I don't like it I leave it, I don't wish for it to cease to exist!

The FAQ for the FES is one of the single funniest things I have ever read.

The FAQ is awesome 

The FAQ is awesome 

Does it talk about radio waves in space? How about the ice wall that goes on forever. How about the confusion about the fluctuations of the sun and lack of lunar eclipse. Take a close look and see if you can find any information on it. Look at the threads and see you can find those answers also. You will not. A new person has a question so he should be accommodated instead of having the brushoff to the FAQ. How would you feel if you went to see the doctor with a problem and he give you a medical book and tell you to look it up?

Nobody said that the FAQ had every single answer in it.  Also, SCG did not even claim that she wrote the FAQ.  She simply suggested it as a starting point.  Why do you give her such a hard time?  We all try to answer your questions, but for some reason, you seem to have it in for SCG.  Lighten up. 

Starman, I don't know why you keep going on about new people asking questions. New people should ask questions, they should also read the FAQ (if they're interested in some basics). ALSO, we've been complaining about the FAQ for years. It really needs to be updated.

   I seem to have started a bun fight or is all that stuff normal here?. I still got lots of questions about this flat earth, like if you look at the stars say once a week for a year or two they move across the sky and new ones appear as the the old ones disappear. That must mean that there is some sort of clear dome full of stars spinning around us and accelerating with us year after year. That would explain the lack of Doppler shift in the starlight. Big question what is outside the dome?, if it is nothing what is at the end of nothing?.
   Next question. How far up does the atmosphere go?. At 200 km up do we run out of air or is the whole dome full of it?.
   Hope this starts a discussion not a bun fight!.   

   I seem to have started a bun fight or is all that stuff normal here?. I still got lots of questions about this flat earth, like if you look at the stars say once a week for a year or two they move across the sky and new ones appear as the the old ones disappear. That must mean that there is some sort of clear dome full of stars spinning around us and accelerating with us year after year. That would explain the lack of Doppler shift in the starlight. Big question what is outside the dome?, if it is nothing what is at the end of nothing?.
   Next question. How far up does the atmosphere go?. At 200 km up do we run out of air or is the whole dome full of it?.
   Hope this starts a discussion not a bun fight!.

Nobody really knows how high the dome is. A lot of flat Earthers don't believe in a dome. Personally, I'm 100% certain in my mind that there is one: but that's just me.

What is outside the dome is a good question. It's almost like, how did the big bang manage to spawn a universe from a supposed super dense particle, or as some scientist put it. It started from nothing?

I liken the Earth to a cell: a living cell MAYBE in suspended animation. As a thought, just think of Earth as being one cell among infinite cells in suspended animation, or a perfect vacuum.

The other thing I've been pondering, is connected cells, or connected Earth's. Think of air molecules all squashed together on Earth; no gaps, just molecules/cells squashed against molecules/cells, all shuffling about under different friction, sort of breaathing in and out, or expanding and contracting, creating vibration, which is all everything is inside Earth in my mind.

So, if we aren't in suspended animation with infitnite other Earth types, then this could be the other option, which I'm currently thinking about.
The Earth is it's own life source. Nothing outside of it contributes to it's existence. I think it's a case of survival of the fittest, just as the cells in our own bodies die or replenish. Maybe that's what we are. We are mere organisms that keep the Earth cell alive and growing, until it passes its sell by date and starts to die off, or decays to a point where it regenerates.

Try and get your head around that. It's not easy and I'm sure I'll recieve the usual tickets for the nearest lunatic asylum from some very generous people on here. 

Scepti is completely correct about everything.  The ice dome is VERY real. 

Don't let the lack of any evidence put you off, you just have to use logic.  Come on sheeple, use your noodles!

Quote from: guv on April 28, 2014, 12:07:39 AM

   I seem to have started a bun fight or is all that stuff normal here?. I still got lots of questions about this flat earth, like if you look at the stars say once a week for a year or two they move across the sky and new ones appear as the the old ones disappear. That must mean that there is some sort of clear dome full of stars spinning around us and accelerating with us year after year. That would explain the lack of Doppler shift in the starlight. Big question what is outside the dome?, if it is nothing what is at the end of nothing?.
   Next question. How far up does the atmosphere go?. At 200 km up do we run out of air or is the whole dome full of it?.
   Hope this starts a discussion not a bun fight!.

Nobody really knows how high the dome is. A lot of flat Earthers don't believe in a dome. Personally, I'm 100% certain in my mind that there is one: but that's just me.

What is outside the dome is a good question. It's almost like, how did the big bang manage to spawn a universe from a supposed super dense particle, or as some scientist put it. It started from nothing?

I liken the Earth to a cell: a living cell MAYBE in suspended animation. As a thought, just think of Earth as being one cell among infinite cells in suspended animation, or a perfect vacuum.

The other thing I've been pondering, is connected cells, or connected Earth's. Think of air molecules all squashed together on Earth; no gaps, just molecules/cells squashed against molecules/cells, all shuffling about under different friction, sort of breaathing in and out, or expanding and contracting, creating vibration, which is all everything is inside Earth in my mind.

So, if we aren't in suspended animation with infitnite other Earth types, then this could be the other option, which I'm currently thinking about.
The Earth is it's own life source. Nothing outside of it contributes to it's existence. I think it's a case of survival of the fittest, just as the cells in our own bodies die or replenish. Maybe that's what we are. We are mere organisms that keep the Earth cell alive and growing, until it passes its sell by date and starts to die off, or decays to a point where it regenerates.

Try and get your head around that. It's not easy and I'm sure I'll recieve the usual tickets for the nearest lunatic asylum from some very generous people on here. 

I'd rather give you a ticket to the FARTHEST lunatic asylum. Maybe on the moon. Then you can watch our round earth rotate

Quote from: guv on April 28, 2014, 12:07:39 AM

   I seem to have started a bun fight or is all that stuff normal here?. I still got lots of questions about this flat earth, like if you look at the stars say once a week for a year or two they move across the sky and new ones appear as the the old ones disappear. That must mean that there is some sort of clear dome full of stars spinning around us and accelerating with us year after year. That would explain the lack of Doppler shift in the starlight. Big question what is outside the dome?, if it is nothing what is at the end of nothing?.
   Next question. How far up does the atmosphere go?. At 200 km up do we run out of air or is the whole dome full of it?.
   Hope this starts a discussion not a bun fight!.

Nobody really knows how high the dome is. A lot of flat Earthers don't believe in a dome. Personally, I'm 100% certain in my mind that there is one: but that's just me.

What is outside the dome is a good question. It's almost like, how did the big bang manage to spawn a universe from a supposed super dense particle, or as some scientist put it. It started from nothing?

I liken the Earth to a cell: a living cell MAYBE in suspended animation. As a thought, just think of Earth as being one cell among infinite cells in suspended animation, or a perfect vacuum.

The other thing I've been pondering, is connected cells, or connected Earth's. Think of air molecules all squashed together on Earth; no gaps, just molecules/cells squashed against molecules/cells, all shuffling about under different friction, sort of breaathing in and out, or expanding and contracting, creating vibration, which is all everything is inside Earth in my mind.

So, if we aren't in suspended animation with infitnite other Earth types, then this could be the other option, which I'm currently thinking about.
The Earth is it's own life source. Nothing outside of it contributes to it's existence. I think it's a case of survival of the fittest, just as the cells in our own bodies die or replenish. Maybe that's what we are. We are mere organisms that keep the Earth cell alive and growing, until it passes its sell by date and starts to die off, or decays to a point where it regenerates.

Try and get your head around that. It's not easy and I'm sure I'll recieve the usual tickets for the nearest lunatic asylum from some very generous people on here. 

Here what you said:"Personally, I'm 100% certain in my mind that there is one: but that's just me." Show us evidence that is real. Not just your THEORY. Looking out the windows does not count. That is not evidence.

The ice dome is not about evidence, it's about LOGIC.  You can tell this is very important, as I have used UPPERCASE.

The Earth's atmosphere does not escape, therefore something is holding it in.   As we get further up in the atmosphere it gets colder, eventually cold enough to freeze gases, therefore it freezes.  Ergo it is frozen atmospheric gases hold the rest of the atmosphere in.

The dome is cold and hard, much like my LOGIC.  Much like my wife as well, but we won't get into that here.

The Scepti Dome - now called a Scome, is very, very real.

The ice dome is not about evidence, it's about LOGIC.  You can tell this is very important, as I have used UPPERCASE.

The Earth's atmosphere does not escape, therefore something is holding it in.   As we get further up in the atmosphere it gets colder, eventually cold enough to freeze gases, therefore it freezes.  Ergo it is frozen atmospheric gases hold the rest of the atmosphere in.

The dome is cold and hard, much like my LOGIC.  Much like my wife as well, but we won't get into that here.

The Scepti Dome - now called a Scome, is very, very real.

Logic can only be accurate if you have proven assumptions which becomes facts. I dough the extremely thin atmosphere freezes because it is not under and pressure (water in a vacuum).  I am curious to hear scepti version of it.

I think that is scepti's version of it. 

I think that is scepti's version of it.

There is only the Scepti version.  I am but an acolyte, a student of this modern day Socrates. 

And like the students of the aforementioned Greek guy with the great beard, I will of course help develop these natural philosophies.  I will be his Aristotle. 

Good boy.  Arf arf.