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Re: Theoretical Physicists
« Reply #90 on: April 14, 2014, 11:38:04 PM »
Here's a page which covers the differences between diffraction and refraction (it also covers reflection, with a handy little picture of what happens when waves reflect off a curved surface such as a parabolic dish, but that relates to another topic): http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/waves/Lesson-3/Reflection,-Refraction,-and-Diffraction

"Refraction of waves involves a change in the direction of waves as they pass from one medium to another."

and

"...diffraction involves a change in direction of waves as they pass through an opening or around a barrier in their path."

Hopefully we can all now use these terms correctly.
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Re: Theoretical Physicists
« Reply #91 on: April 14, 2014, 11:52:54 PM »
Thank you, Scintific Method, for helping me prove that light does, in fact, bend. 
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Re: Theoretical Physicists
« Reply #92 on: April 15, 2014, 02:16:13 AM »
Quote from: jroa on April 14, 2014, 11:52:54 PM
Thank you, Scintific Method, for helping me prove that light does, in fact, bend.

You're welcome. Just keep in mind that refraction is not the same as 'bendy light', which is an essential part of any FE hypothesis, but which also has serious flaws.
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Re: Theoretical Physicists
« Reply #93 on: April 15, 2014, 02:22:36 AM »
Light bends for a lot of reasons. 
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Re: Theoretical Physicists
« Reply #94 on: April 15, 2014, 03:59:37 AM »
Quote from: jroa on April 15, 2014, 02:22:36 AM
Light bends for a lot of reasons.
We all agree it does. The discussion is in what condition and how much.
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Re: Theoretical Physicists
« Reply #95 on: April 15, 2014, 04:01:41 AM »
Quote from: jroa on April 15, 2014, 02:22:36 AM
Light bends for a lot of reasons.
What are these reasons, and how are they relevant to a flat earth theory?
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Re: Theoretical Physicists
« Reply #96 on: April 15, 2014, 10:27:39 AM »
Quote from: inquisitive on April 15, 2014, 04:01:41 AM
Quote from: jroa on April 15, 2014, 02:22:36 AM
Light bends for a lot of reasons.
What are these reasons, and how are they relevant to a flat earth theory?

I asked him to present his mathematical and physical model for his "bendy light". We'll see just how much of an uneducated fool he really is.
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Re: Theoretical Physicists
« Reply #97 on: April 15, 2014, 12:51:33 PM »
I can fling RE measurements all over the place just like you can.  However, they are not really proof and are really easy to find on the internet.  Maybe you can come up with something original? 
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Re: Theoretical Physicists
« Reply #98 on: April 15, 2014, 01:11:19 PM »
Quote from: jroa on April 15, 2014, 12:51:33 PM
I can fling RE measurements all over the place just like you can.  However, they are not really proof and are really easy to find on the internet.  Maybe you can come up with something original?

Originality has no effect on truth.

If 10 trillion people claim 1+1=2, and you test it yourself and it turns out that yes, 1+1 does in fact equal 2, it doesn't matter if it is "original" or not.

Facts are facts.
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Re: Theoretical Physicists
« Reply #99 on: April 15, 2014, 01:27:01 PM »
Quote from: jroa on April 15, 2014, 12:51:33 PM
I can fling RE measurements all over the place just like you can.  However, they are not really proof and are really easy to find on the internet.  Maybe you can come up with something original?
Please post some FE measurements between some capital cities, or a link to them.
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Re: Theoretical Physicists
« Reply #100 on: April 15, 2014, 08:19:35 PM »
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Re: Theoretical Physicists
« Reply #101 on: April 15, 2014, 08:42:33 PM »
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Re: Theoretical Physicists
« Reply #102 on: April 15, 2014, 08:45:32 PM »
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Re: Theoretical Physicists
« Reply #103 on: April 15, 2014, 08:48:19 PM »
Quote from: jroa on April 15, 2014, 08:19:35 PM
What if 2+2=5?

Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_fallacy#All_numbers_equal_all_other_numbers
All numbers equal all other numbers

The following example uses division by zero to "prove" that 2 = 1, but can be modified to prove that any number equals any other number.

1. Let a and b be equal non-zero quantities
    a = b

2. Multiply through by a
    a^2 = ab

3. Subtract b^2
    a^2 - b^2 = ab - b^2

4. Factor both sides
    (a - b)(a + b) = b(a - b)

5. Divide out (a - b)
    a + b = b

6. Observing that a = b
    b + b = b

7. Combine like terms on the left
    2b = b

8. Divide by the non-zero b
    2 = 1

Q.E.D.[5]

The fallacy is in line 5: the progression from line 4 to line 5 involves division by a − b, which is zero since a equals b. Since division by zero is undefined, the argument is invalid.
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Re: Theoretical Physicists
« Reply #104 on: April 15, 2014, 08:54:56 PM »
Are you saying that all numbers equal other numbers, or that they don't?
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Re: Theoretical Physicists
« Reply #105 on: April 15, 2014, 08:56:19 PM »
Quote from: jroa on April 15, 2014, 08:54:56 PM
Are you saying that all numbers equal other numbers, or that they don't?
There is no need to jump to random conclusions. The video is simply wrong. Nothing more.
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Re: Theoretical Physicists
« Reply #106 on: April 15, 2014, 09:06:54 PM »
Quote from: jroa on April 15, 2014, 08:54:56 PM
Are you saying that all numbers equal other numbers, or that they don't?
I'm saying that you can use mathematical fallacies to "prove" anything you want, but that doesn't make you right.
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Re: Theoretical Physicists
« Reply #107 on: April 15, 2014, 11:02:11 PM »
What jroa does not understand is that if I send him 1 dollar and he sends me 10,000 dollars, it is one and the same. This is too much for a FEer to understand.
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Re: Theoretical Physicists
« Reply #108 on: April 15, 2014, 11:09:35 PM »
1 dollar and 10,000 dollars are the same thing? 
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Re: Theoretical Physicists
« Reply #109 on: April 16, 2014, 12:39:16 AM »
Quote from: jroa on April 15, 2014, 08:54:56 PM
Are you saying that all numbers equal other numbers, or that they don't?

Well at least YOUR pattern is obvious: use rhetorics when you've been put against a wall...
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Re: Theoretical Physicists
« Reply #110 on: April 16, 2014, 12:45:37 AM »
You put me against the wall how?   
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Re: Theoretical Physicists
« Reply #111 on: April 16, 2014, 12:53:38 AM »
Quote from: jroa on April 16, 2014, 12:45:37 AM
You put me against the wall how?

Do you really want me to quote every single rhetorical question you posted instead of answering a question at hand, since I made my account? I'm pretty sure there are over 100 since then...

You're not answering questions because you know you have no real answers. Apart from some fantasies which you cannot prove, you're empty, you feel threatened when somebody asks you a question for which you have no answer, or when somebody asks you to present a mathematical model for your bullshit, not necessarily a model made by you, but by anybody else. Under this pressure (backed against a wall), instead of admitting that you're wrong, you pose rhetorical, and at some times flat out stupid questions, in hopes of derailing the conversation.

Basic psychology.
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« Reply #112 on: April 16, 2014, 01:02:58 AM »
How are you threatening me?  Are you trying to say that you are intimidating?  I can guarantee that you are not. 
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Re: Theoretical Physicists
« Reply #113 on: April 16, 2014, 01:06:37 AM »
Quote from: jroa on April 16, 2014, 01:02:58 AM
How are you threatening me?  Are you trying to say that you are intimidating?  I can guarantee that you are not.

Not only by me, you feel threatened by everybody that asks you to present your evidence, hence your rhetorical question defense mechanism.
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« Reply #114 on: April 16, 2014, 01:13:00 AM »
Please give examples.  I can not find them. 
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Re: Theoretical Physicists
« Reply #115 on: April 16, 2014, 01:51:25 AM »
Quote from: jroa on April 15, 2014, 08:54:56 PM
Are you saying that all numbers equal other numbers, or that they don't?

-jroa, when given proof that the video about "2+2=5" is plain wrong.

Quote from: jroa on April 11, 2014, 07:54:36 AM
Are you claiming that light can travel infinitely through the air?

-jroa, when told that ~50km of air is not enough for it to totally block off sunlight.

Quote from: jroa on April 14, 2014, 02:41:50 PM
People say that bendy light does not exist all the time.  They claim that light only travels in straight lines.  Are you now accepting that bendy light exists?

-jroa, when explained (with 3 or 4 physics articles explaining refraction, reflection and diffraction in the whole thread) that what would be needed for light to bend the way he needs it to be (in order to prove his "perspective") is impossible.

Quote from: jroa on April 11, 2014, 05:57:10 PM
How far off were the stars on these black and white photos?  Were they barely measurable?

-jroa, when being proven that theoretical physics is not, as he said, "a nice way to say, "I can make stuff up and you can't prove me wrong."  "

Quote from: jroa on April 16, 2014, 01:15:49 AM
Mathematical evidence of what?  Pythagorean theorem?  You are a very confusing person. 

-jroa, when asked to present a mathematical model that supports a flat earth, knowing that there isn't any, he played the fool.


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Re: Theoretical Physicists
« Reply #116 on: April 16, 2014, 01:54:22 AM »
Thanks for summing things up for us. 
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« Reply #117 on: April 16, 2014, 02:04:23 AM »
Quote from: jroa on April 16, 2014, 01:54:22 AM
Thanks for summing things up for us.

Indeed, at least you're not denying your psychological defensive mechanism, the rhetorics.
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« Reply #118 on: April 16, 2014, 07:00:19 AM »
Quote from: jroa on April 11, 2014, 06:29:28 PM
You said you were going to guess, and then you asked a question instead.  Perhaps you don't understand how guessing works?

Perhaps FE'ers try avoiding tricky questions with answers like this...
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« Reply #119 on: April 16, 2014, 07:44:23 AM »
There are many people who hold 'Theoretical Physics' in contempt. Millions/billions spent on elaborate wasteful projects that in the end, discover... nothing, or what someone else claims they could have told them for very little.

Listen to what these gentlemen think of 'theoretical science'. I know they are religious, but if you listen to Rupert Sheldrake, he'll tell you that 'science' IS based on 'religion', if you go back and check the current theme's origins.

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