I'm open minded to many things...

I understand that people believe in religion because it can't be disproved (i personally do not believe in it since i'm smart enough to realise that there's not a big man in the sky that is willing to send someone to hell for eternity for not believing in a big man in the sky...) but i do believe in science and fact. Why, in this day and age, do people still want to believe the world is flat? When it's proved beyond a shadow of doubt that it's not. I had this argument with someone on here last month and instead of providing any proof or evidence all i got was "well we believe that" or "maybe its flat because..." until there's some hardcore proof (which there obviously never will be), then stop spouting about a flat earth and giving people loose arguments that don't hold any sway.

I never thought that the Earth's shape was ever something that needed bringing into question. I've asked questions before, such as:

Why don't they just go to the edge of the earth and prove it?
Does the oceans waters just continuously flow off and into space?
Why is every other planet spherical but our own?
Out of the 7billion people that inhabit the world, SURELY one of them would have been to "the edge" of it?

So many questions that they skirt around answering. All i get are individuals theories on why they think it's flat. I don't know why they think the government, scientists, NASA and everyone else would be fooling us into thinking its not flat.

But hey, if it turns out these guys are right...i'll eat my hat!

I totally understand you on this. I have been here for months and my interest is studying their minds and what make them function like that. I will reserve my opinion for now as not to offend them too much. It is pretty clear they are not normal and they will argue that.

I understand that people believe in religion because it can't be disproved (i personally do not believe in it since i'm smart enough to realise that there's not a big man in the sky that is willing to send someone to hell for eternity for not believing in a big man in the sky...) but i do believe in science and fact. Why, in this day and age, do people still want to believe the world is flat? When it's proved beyond a shadow of doubt that it's not. I had this argument with someone on here last month and instead of providing any proof or evidence all i got was "well we believe that" or "maybe its flat because..." until there's some hardcore proof (which there obviously never will be), then stop spouting about a flat earth and giving people loose arguments that don't hold any sway.

"the practice of declaring an unfalsifiable theory to be scientifically true is pseudoscience..."

If round earth theory were proven without a shadow of a doubt, this site wouldn't exist.

If round earth theory were proven without a shadow of a doubt, this site wouldn't exist.

If round earth theory were proven without a shadow of a doubt, this site wouldn't exist.

Quote from: DuckDodgers on April 08, 2014, 10:25:52 AM

If round earth theory were proven without a shadow of a doubt, this site wouldn't exist.

You're wrong because it is proven, and this site still exists.

Quote from: th3rm0m3t3r0 on April 08, 2014, 10:32:58 AM

Quote from: DuckDodgers on April 08, 2014, 10:25:52 AM

If round earth theory were proven without a shadow of a doubt, this site wouldn't exist.

You're wrong because it is proven, and this site still exists.

Prove it!

The fact that every question posed by RErs has been answered, most dozens of times, and they have yet to prove that round earth is 100% correct is very telling.  Back before The Great Server Fiasco of 2014, Thork was posting topics which covered questions asked by RErs which had been previously answered by only him.  Use the search function, it's a wonderful tool.

Quote from: th3rm0m3t3r0 on April 08, 2014, 10:32:58 AM

Quote from: DuckDodgers on April 08, 2014, 10:25:52 AM

If round earth theory were proven without a shadow of a doubt, this site would exist because morons like us exist.

You're wrong because it is proven, and this site still exists, unlike my brain.

Prove it moron!

I take it you're new here.
I'm sorry but these people have double standards, get used to it.
They believe the accounts of one long-gone man, but refuse the accounts of about a million other people.
For example, one person supposedly went to the edge of the Earth but never came back, somehow they still accept it as fact just because.
Whereas people like Roald Amundsen went to the South Pole and actually came back, and the FES refuses it.
I think unless we can put Jroa aboard a Souyuz rocket to the ISS, there is no way to convince anyone here. Sorry.

Quote from: Jorhan Brimve Stahl on April 09, 2014, 12:18:37 PM

I take it you're new here.
I'm sorry but these people have double standards, get used to it.
They believe the accounts of one long-gone man, but refuse the accounts of about a million other people.
For example, one person supposedly went to the edge of the Earth but never came back, somehow they still accept it as fact just because.
Whereas people like Roald Amundsen went to the South Pole and actually came back, and the FES refuses it.
I think unless we can put Jroa aboard a Souyuz rocket to the ISS, there is no way to convince anyone here. Sorry.

I've never seen you around.
You're hardly a veteran yourself.
Germany loved Hitler. Millions of people have been wrong about many, many things.
Look at religion. Millions of people believe in a man who sits up in the clouds and strokes his beard, maniacally watching us poor simple souls.

Quote from: th3rm0m3t3r0 on April 09, 2014, 12:25:09 PM

Quote from: Jorhan Brimve Stahl on April 09, 2014, 12:18:37 PM

I take it you're new here.
I'm sorry but these people have double standards, get used to it.
They believe the accounts of one long-gone man, but refuse the accounts of about a million other people.
For example, one person supposedly went to the edge of the Earth but never came back, somehow they still accept it as fact just because.
Whereas people like Roald Amundsen went to the South Pole and actually came back, and the FES refuses it.
I think unless we can put Jroa aboard a Souyuz rocket to the ISS, there is no way to convince anyone here. Sorry.

I've never seen you around.
You're hardly a veteran yourself.
Germany loved Hitler. Millions of people have been wrong about many, many things.
Look at religion. Millions of people believe in a man who sits up in the clouds and strokes his beard, maniacally watching us poor simple souls.

I've used to be around, then I wasn't, now I am.

The difference here is that Hitler was one wrong man, while there were still billions left in the world who believed the right thing(as in not being anti-semitistic),
in the FES' case it's one rightful Rowbotham and a handful of followers vs 7 Billion.
Also, that's a very shallow and ignorant view of religion, seeing as the only people who seem to believe that are evangelists and extremists, not exactly the world's majority of religious people. Also Pantheism.

Quote from: Jorhan Brimve Stahl on April 09, 2014, 12:32:08 PM

Quote from: th3rm0m3t3r0 on April 09, 2014, 12:25:09 PM

Quote from: Jorhan Brimve Stahl on April 09, 2014, 12:18:37 PM

I take it you're new here.
I'm sorry but these people have double standards, get used to it.
They believe the accounts of one long-gone man, but refuse the accounts of about a million other people.
For example, one person supposedly went to the edge of the Earth but never came back, somehow they still accept it as fact just because.
Whereas people like Roald Amundsen went to the South Pole and actually came back, and the FES refuses it.
I think unless we can put Jroa aboard a Souyuz rocket to the ISS, there is no way to convince anyone here. Sorry.

If you gave the context some thought you would realize that my mention of Rowbotham was in relevancy to his mention of Germans believing in Hitler.
I've never seen you around.
You're hardly a veteran yourself.
Germany loved Hitler. Millions of people have been wrong about many, many things.
Look at religion. Millions of people believe in a man who sits up in the clouds and strokes his beard, maniacally watching us poor simple souls.

I've used to be around, then I wasn't, now I am.

The difference here is that Hitler was one wrong man, while there were still billions left in the world who believed the right thing(as in not being anti-semitistic),
in the FES' case it's one rightful Rowbotham and a handful of followers vs 7 Billion.
Also, that's a very shallow and ignorant view of religion, seeing as the only people who seem to believe that are evangelists and extremists, not exactly the world's majority of religious people. Also Pantheism.

How very ad populum of you.  He also said nothing of a world majority and instead mentioned millions of believers.  Try some reading comprehension exercises sometime.

Quote from: th3rm0m3t3r0 on April 09, 2014, 12:25:09 PM

Quote from: Jorhan Brimve Stahl on April 09, 2014, 12:18:37 PM

I take it you're new here.
I'm sorry but these people have double standards, get used to it.
They believe the accounts of one long-gone man, but refuse the accounts of about a million other people.
For example, one person supposedly went to the edge of the Earth but never came back, somehow they still accept it as fact just because.
Whereas people like Roald Amundsen went to the South Pole and actually came back, and the FES refuses it.
I think unless we can put Jroa aboard a Souyuz rocket to the ISS, there is no way to convince anyone here. Sorry.

I've never seen you around.
You're hardly a veteran yourself.
Germany loved Hitler. Millions of people have been wrong about many, many things.
Look at religion. Millions of people believe in a man who sits up in the clouds and strokes his beard, maniacally watching us poor simple souls.

I've used to be around, then I wasn't, now I am.

The difference here is that Hitler was one wrong man, while there were still billions left in the world who believed the right thing(as in not being anti-semitistic),
in the FES' case it's one rightful Rowbotham and a handful of followers vs 7 Billion.
Also, that's a very shallow and ignorant view of religion, seeing as the only people who seem to believe that are evangelists and extremists, not exactly the world's majority of religious people. Also Pantheism.

Quote from: Jorhan Brimve Stahl on April 09, 2014, 12:32:08 PM

Quote from: th3rm0m3t3r0 on April 09, 2014, 12:25:09 PM

Quote from: Jorhan Brimve Stahl on April 09, 2014, 12:18:37 PM

I take it you're new here.
I'm sorry but these people have double standards, get used to it.
They believe the accounts of one long-gone man, but refuse the accounts of about a million other people.
For example, one person supposedly went to the edge of the Earth but never came back, somehow they still accept it as fact just because.
Whereas people like Roald Amundsen went to the South Pole and actually came back, and the FES refuses it.
I think unless we can put Jroa aboard a Souyuz rocket to the ISS, there is no way to convince anyone here. Sorry.

I've never seen you around.
You're hardly a veteran yourself.
Germany loved Hitler. Millions of people have been wrong about many, many things.
Look at religion. Millions of people believe in a man who sits up in the clouds and strokes his beard, maniacally watching us poor simple souls.

I've used to be around, then I wasn't, now I am.

The difference here is that Hitler was one wrong man, while there were still billions left in the world who believed the right thing(as in not being anti-semitistic),
in the FES' case it's one rightful Rowbotham and a handful of followers vs 7 Billion.
Also, that's a very shallow and ignorant view of religion, seeing as the only people who seem to believe that are evangelists and extremists, not exactly the world's majority of religious people. Also Pantheism.

When did you used to be around? Your account was made late last year.
There were around 2.3 billion people in the world in WW2.
Considering it was a world war, I would assume the world was somewhat divided on these issues.
That aside, I was just using religion as an example.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religious_populations
Assuming just half of the people included on this list are dogmatically religious, I think you're wrong.
Not everyone who believes the world is flat is a follower of Dr. Parallax.

Quote from: th3rm0m3t3r0 on April 09, 2014, 12:41:22 PM

Quote from: Jorhan Brimve Stahl on April 09, 2014, 12:32:08 PM

Quote from: th3rm0m3t3r0 on April 09, 2014, 12:25:09 PM

Quote from: Jorhan Brimve Stahl on April 09, 2014, 12:18:37 PM

I take it you're new here.
I'm sorry but these people have double standards, get used to it.
They believe the accounts of one long-gone man, but refuse the accounts of about a million other people.
For example, one person supposedly went to the edge of the Earth but never came back, somehow they still accept it as fact just because.
Whereas people like Roald Amundsen went to the South Pole and actually came back, and the FES refuses it.
I think unless we can put Jroa aboard a Souyuz rocket to the ISS, there is no way to convince anyone here. Sorry.

I've never seen you around.
You're hardly a veteran yourself.
Germany loved Hitler. Millions of people have been wrong about many, many things.
Look at religion. Millions of people believe in a man who sits up in the clouds and strokes his beard, maniacally watching us poor simple souls.

I've used to be around, then I wasn't, now I am.

The difference here is that Hitler was one wrong man, while there were still billions left in the world who believed the right thing(as in not being anti-semitistic),
in the FES' case it's one rightful Rowbotham and a handful of followers vs 7 Billion.
Also, that's a very shallow and ignorant view of religion, seeing as the only people who seem to believe that are evangelists and extremists, not exactly the world's majority of religious people. Also Pantheism.

When did you used to be around? Your account was made late last year.
There were around 2.3 billion people in the world in WW2.
Considering it was a world war, I would assume the world was somewhat divided on these issues.
That aside, I was just using religion as an example.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religious_populations
Assuming just half of the people included on this list are dogmatically religious, I think you're wrong.
Not everyone who believes the world is flat is a follower of Dr. Parallax.

Thanks for the correction on WWII world population, I was struggling to recall. Or too lazy to look it up. Now. We are not here to have stupid discussions about religion either, I shouldn't have commented on that matter. We're here to have stupid discussions about physics, instead. So let's stay on the mother of all topics, shall we?

Put it this way, then: I think there were more people opposed to Nazism than there were people for it at the time, and there are definitely more people who believe the Earth is a sphere than there are people who believe the Earth is flat. Global religious numbers are not too familiar territory for me, so me being wrong there doesn't surprise me. Allow me to correct myself and say that in my dear home nation of Norway fanatics and evangelists are in minority.