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« Reply #450 on: April 11, 2014, 07:37:10 AM »
Awe. Poor baby.

In the words of Radiohead's Thom Yorke, "Gravity Always Wins".
No such thing as gravity Rotty, No such thing. You've been duped and you ate it all and asked for seconds.  ;D

No such thing as denpressure skippy. I promise you this because you are always wrong and I am always right.

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« Reply #451 on: April 11, 2014, 07:40:35 AM »
So, people that move to denver, from the ocean, just shut down, completely, until they've "adjusted"? You don't know anything scepti, which is why this is so fun to me. Your body doesn't require pressure to survive, it requires oxygen. Give someone an mask of oxygen, they'll live just fine. Change that mask to co2 they'll be dead very quickly, no matter what the pressure is around them.
Oh for crying out loud. Are you seriously saying this after all I've said. So it's simply just a joke to you? What do you think the oxygen is under when it's given to people? I'm simply wasting my time with you.
We don't put athletes in hyperbaric chambers when they're struggling at high altitude, we give them oxygen. The oxygen goes to their lungs, which spreads it through the bloodstream.
I'll tell you what. I'm not going to waste anotehr post on you. Either get real or you will not be replied to, simple as that. No need to reply to this unless you start to use your brain.

Your body will do what it needs to survive. It will shut you down if it doesn't get it's required dose of atmospheric pressure at the pressure it's used to.

You live at the ocean, you're used to pressure x. You move to Denver, you're now in pressure x/2. According to you, you shut down. You are the one that needs to get real scepti.

If you need pressure to live, why do we put people SPECIFICALLY on O2, and not just compressed air?

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« Reply #452 on: April 11, 2014, 07:44:50 AM »
but there's pressure under my arm too. But ok, then why doesn't my whole body feel like it's being squeezed all day long?
Your body does. You just don't appreciate that it does because your mind and body are geared to using it to survive. It becomes part of you. You are equalised to it in the main until you use an action against it, as in taking a breath (action) and your are squeezed to exhale (reaction).
Your body is working against it all the time. Everything in your body is under action/reaction pressure.
Your heart is under it and you feel it as a beat. It fills with blood which expands it and it's crushed back, it's a fight on fight like everything on Earth.

It is not external pressure that causes us to inhale or exhale, or cause our heart to beat.  It is nerves acting on muscles that then contract / relax.

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« Reply #453 on: April 11, 2014, 07:51:44 AM »
but there's pressure under my arm too. But ok, then why doesn't my whole body feel like it's being squeezed all day long?
Your body does. You just don't appreciate that it does because your mind and body are geared to using it to survive. It becomes part of you. You are equalised to it in the main until you use an action against it, as in taking a breath (action) and your are squeezed to exhale (reaction).
Your body is working against it all the time. Everything in your body is under action/reaction pressure.
Your heart is under it and you feel it as a beat. It fills with blood which expands it and it's crushed back, it's a fight on fight like everything on Earth.
According to scepti the air elements in air will have the lighter ones go up and the heavier elements got down. If that were the case we would all suffocate since 78% of air is nitrogen.

It is not external pressure that causes us to inhale or exhale, or cause our heart to beat.  It is nerves acting on muscles that then contract / relax.

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« Reply #454 on: April 11, 2014, 07:55:07 AM »
if all elements attempt to find their place, if I dig a hole, and I find a tuber while digging, and I put it at the bottom of the hole after digging, deeper than where I found it, why does the tuber not rise to the level I found it at? Why does the natural state of all things seem to be at the bottom, regardless of its weight/ density/ whatever?
The natural state of all things isn't at the bottom, that's the thing. The Earth consists of trapped matter in all things and pressure releases them in stages, from super pressure right under the Earth to lesser pressure above. Your tuber has been placed in an environment that it's not strong enough to recover from. If I buried you up to your waist in sand, you could pull yourself out with a bit of energy and time. I  buried you up to your neck you are going to have a serious problem, because your body is not designed for that environment.
However, if I was to lay a lump of lead on the sand and leave it, it would eventually sink and sink. Everything has it's place as long as you are alive, your place is on top of the ground. When you die, your body is taken apart and put into its respective elemental make up of the Earth.
Anything ejected up to the surface will always be under pressure. The more dense ejection, the more pressure is applied, giving a small dense object a lot of measured weight for it size because it displaces more atmosphere than  other less dense object of bigger sizes because those objects actually absorb quite a lot of atmsophere in terms of a lot is equalised into them, which is why a sping can be big but light to us and weigh next to nothing.
I also have a small experiment for you to weigh in on (pun unavoidable). I have two spring scales. One hangs vertically, the other horizontally. Attached to both are identical cables whose weight is known. The cable hangs over a simple pulley with no notable resistance, so that the end of the cable hangs down.  In both cases, two object of identical shape and weight are hung from each scale, and show the same weight.
Both weights and scales are inside an evacuation chamber, which is then evacuated. How does this evacuation affect both spring scales, one hanging vertically, one horizontally?
There bound to show the same weight. Why wouldn't they? They are identical. As long as the same resistance is acting on each pulley there will be no change against the other.

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Re: Denpressure fails again.
« Reply #455 on: April 11, 2014, 07:56:35 AM »
Awe. Poor baby.

In the words of Radiohead's Thom Yorke, "Gravity Always Wins".
No such thing as gravity Rotty, No such thing. You've been duped and you ate it all and asked for seconds.  ;D

No such thing as denpressure skippy. I promise you this because you are always wrong and I am always right.
Well you keep it that way Rotty. Enjoy your fantasy gravity and scrape the plate clean. ;)

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« Reply #456 on: April 11, 2014, 07:58:01 AM »
Awe. Poor baby.

In the words of Radiohead's Thom Yorke, "Gravity Always Wins".
No such thing as gravity Rotty, No such thing. You've been duped and you ate it all and asked for seconds.  ;D

No such thing as denpressure skippy. I promise you this because you are always wrong and I am always right.
Well you keep it that way Rotty. Enjoy your fantasy gravity and scrape the plate clean. ;)

Yummy gravity. How I enjoy thee.

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Re: Denpressure fails again.
« Reply #457 on: April 11, 2014, 08:00:04 AM »
Awe. Poor baby.

In the words of Radiohead's Thom Yorke, "Gravity Always Wins".
No such thing as gravity Rotty, No such thing. You've been duped and you ate it all and asked for seconds.  ;D

No such thing as denpressure skippy. I promise you this because you are always wrong and I am always right.
Well you keep it that way Rotty. Enjoy your fantasy gravity and scrape the plate clean. ;)

Yummy gravity. How I enjoy thee.
Thank god gravity does not reject certain people. Maybe it should.

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Re: Denpressure fails again.
« Reply #458 on: April 11, 2014, 08:01:40 AM »
I'd like the record to show that Scepti was unable to continue to tap dance around the facts and so he gave up answering my points.

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« Reply #459 on: April 11, 2014, 08:05:54 AM »
I'd like the record to show that Scepti was unable to continue to tap dance around the facts and so he gave up answering my points.
You need to pay more attention and try and absorb what is said then you won't go off on one.

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« Reply #460 on: April 11, 2014, 08:08:14 AM »
I'd like the record to show that Scepti was unable to continue to tap dance around the facts and so he gave up answering my points.
You need to pay more attention and try and absorb what is said then you won't go off on one.

No, you need to pay attention.

The thousands of words you type on this site make no sense.

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« Reply #461 on: April 11, 2014, 08:08:44 AM »
but there's pressure under my arm too. But ok, then why doesn't my whole body feel like it's being squeezed all day long?
Your body does. You just don't appreciate that it does because your mind and body are geared to using it to survive. It becomes part of you. You are equalised to it in the main until you use an action against it, as in taking a breath (action) and your are squeezed to exhale (reaction).
Your body is working against it all the time. Everything in your body is under action/reaction pressure.
Your heart is under it and you feel it as a beat. It fills with blood which expands it and it's crushed back, it's a fight on fight like everything on Earth.

It is not external pressure that causes us to inhale or exhale, or cause our heart to beat.  It is nerves acting on muscles that then contract / relax.
Yes, of course it is. Do you seriously think I'm going to start from the bottom and go through what every cell does to get to a point? Use your own common sense to decipher what I'm saying, it should be easy but somehow you people are finding it extremely difficult.
Get your head out of those nonsensical mainstream science books about gravity and what not and start looking at the real picture. I'm sure you've got it in you.

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« Reply #462 on: April 11, 2014, 08:10:29 AM »
I'd like the record to show that Scepti was unable to continue to tap dance around the facts and so he gave up answering my points.
You need to pay more attention and try and absorb what is said then you won't go off on one.

No, you need to pay attention.

The thousands of words you type on this site make no sense.
Some people cannot process logic and common sense and prefer to concentrate on silly equations by pretending they actually know what it all means. It's sad when gravity has equations and cannot even be explained. So sad that people hang onto it when the explanation is right there, given to them on a plate by me.

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Re: Denpressure fails again.
« Reply #463 on: April 11, 2014, 08:11:57 AM »
if all elements attempt to find their place, if I dig a hole, and I find a tuber while digging, and I put it at the bottom of the hole after digging, deeper than where I found it, why does the tuber not rise to the level I found it at? Why does the natural state of all things seem to be at the bottom, regardless of its weight/ density/ whatever?
The natural state of all things isn't at the bottom, that's the thing. The Earth consists of trapped matter in all things and pressure releases them in stages, from super pressure right under the Earth to lesser pressure above. Your tuber has been placed in an environment that it's not strong enough to recover from.

But all I did was place it in a hole lower than its natural level. Are you saying that the Tuber can push away rocks and stones to find its level but cannot but away the far less heavy air?

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If I buried you up to your waist in sand, you could pull yourself out with a bit of energy and time. I  buried you up to your neck you are going to have a serious problem, because your body is not designed for that environment.
However, if I was to lay a lump of lead on the sand and leave it, it would eventually sink and sink. Everything has it's place as long as you are alive, your place is on top of the ground. When you die, your body is taken apart and put into its respective elemental make up of the Earth.

The body isn't designed to be buried either waste or neck deep in sand, but there's no serious problems to simply being buried to one's neck in the short term.
Also, a lead lump, placed on a pile of sand in an isolated chamber, unmoved, would rest on the top of the sand, as there is no sorting action to sift the sand around and above it. It doesn't magically sink through the grains.

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Anything ejected up to the surface will always be under pressure. The more dense ejection, the more pressure is applied, giving a small dense object a lot of measured weight for it size because it displaces more atmosphere than  other less dense object of bigger sizes because those objects actually absorb quite a lot of atmsophere in terms of a lot is equalised into them, which is why a sping can be big but light to us and weigh next to nothing.

How do objects "absorb" atmosphere?

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I also have a small experiment for you to weigh in on (pun unavoidable). I have two spring scales. One hangs vertically, the other horizontally. Attached to both are identical cables whose weight is known. The cable hangs over a simple pulley with no notable resistance, so that the end of the cable hangs down.  In both cases, two object of identical shape and weight are hung from each scale, and show the same weight.
Both weights and scales are inside an evacuation chamber, which is then evacuated. How does this evacuation affect both spring scales, one hanging vertically, one horizontally?
There bound to show the same weight. Why wouldn't they? They are identical. As long as the same resistance is acting on each pulley there will be no change against the other.

So, even though air presser acts lateral to the resistance of the horizontal spring, and pushes against the resistance of the vertical spring (Pushing it and the object down, in denpressure hypothesis), you say there would be no change?
Good to know.

Along the same lines, would these two weight react the same if the air pressure was doubled, and how much of a weight difference do you expect this, let us say ten pound weight, would show?

A similar question arises, which I will ask via another hypothetical scenario.  I have a ball bearing on a spring, ready to launch directly up. It's got a remote controlled release mechanism. On launching it, it pops into the air, let's say about half the height of an evacuatable cylinder.  I remove half the air from that chamber, then launch the ball bearing again. Under Denpressure, does the ball launch higher into the cylinder, or lower? Roughly how much of a change in height would be expected?
Similarly, how is the Ball's descent affected? Does it fall faster or slower?
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« Reply #464 on: April 11, 2014, 08:12:33 AM »
I'd like the record to show that Scepti was unable to continue to tap dance around the facts and so he gave up answering my points.
You need to pay more attention and try and absorb what is said then you won't go off on one.

No, you need to pay attention.

The thousands of words you type on this site make no sense.
Some people cannot process logic and common sense and prefer to concentrate on silly equations by pretending they actually know what it all means. It's sad when gravity has equations and cannot even be explained. So sad that people hang onto it when the explanation is right there, given to them on a plate by me.

You can't possibly be right here because you are always wrong.

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« Reply #465 on: April 11, 2014, 08:16:34 AM »

A similar question arises, which I will ask via another hypothetical scenario.  I have a ball bearing on a spring, ready to launch directly up. It's got a remote controlled release mechanism. On launching it, it pops into the air, let's say about half the height of an evacuatable cylinder.  I remove half the air from that chamber, then launch the ball bearing again. Under Denpressure, does the ball launch higher into the cylinder, or lower? Roughly how much of a change in height would be expected?
Similarly, how is the Ball's descent affected? Does it fall faster or slower?
The ball will go much higher then fall faster than it would under atmospheric conditions.

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« Reply #466 on: April 11, 2014, 08:17:56 AM »
I'd like the record to show that Scepti was unable to continue to tap dance around the facts and so he gave up answering my points.
You need to pay more attention and try and absorb what is said then you won't go off on one.

No, you need to pay attention.

The thousands of words you type on this site make no sense.
Some people cannot process logic and common sense and prefer to concentrate on silly equations by pretending they actually know what it all means. It's sad when gravity has equations and cannot even be explained. So sad that people hang onto it when the explanation is right there, given to them on a plate by me.

You can't possibly be right here because you are always wrong.
I'll leave it at that. No point in carrying this on here. Tit for tat is for other places on here, not here.

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« Reply #467 on: April 11, 2014, 08:19:17 AM »

A similar question arises, which I will ask via another hypothetical scenario.  I have a ball bearing on a spring, ready to launch directly up. It's got a remote controlled release mechanism. On launching it, it pops into the air, let's say about half the height of an evacuatable cylinder.  I remove half the air from that chamber, then launch the ball bearing again. Under Denpressure, does the ball launch higher into the cylinder, or lower? Roughly how much of a change in height would be expected?
Similarly, how is the Ball's descent affected? Does it fall faster or slower?
The ball will go much higher then fall faster than it would under atmospheric conditions.

Could you be more specific? How much higher and how much faster do you predict? Also, I added a second question to my previous post.

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« Reply #468 on: April 11, 2014, 08:19:47 AM »
I'd like the record to show that Scepti was unable to continue to tap dance around the facts and so he gave up answering my points.
You need to pay more attention and try and absorb what is said then you won't go off on one.

No, you need to pay attention.

The thousands of words you type on this site make no sense.
Some people cannot process logic and common sense and prefer to concentrate on silly equations by pretending they actually know what it all means. It's sad when gravity has equations and cannot even be explained. So sad that people hang onto it when the explanation is right there, given to them on a plate by me.

You can't possibly be right here because you are always wrong.
I'll leave it at that. No point in carrying this on here. Tit for tat is for other places on here, not here.

Of course you realize that this is exactly how you sound?

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« Reply #469 on: April 11, 2014, 08:23:15 AM »
but there's pressure under my arm too. But ok, then why doesn't my whole body feel like it's being squeezed all day long?
Your body does. You just don't appreciate that it does because your mind and body are geared to using it to survive. It becomes part of you. You are equalised to it in the main until you use an action against it, as in taking a breath (action) and your are squeezed to exhale (reaction).
Your body is working against it all the time. Everything in your body is under action/reaction pressure.
Your heart is under it and you feel it as a beat. It fills with blood which expands it and it's crushed back, it's a fight on fight like everything on Earth.

It is not external pressure that causes us to inhale or exhale, or cause our heart to beat.  It is nerves acting on muscles that then contract / relax.
Yes, of course it is. Do you seriously think I'm going to start from the bottom and go through what every cell does to get to a point? Use your own common sense to decipher what I'm saying, it should be easy but somehow you people are finding it extremely difficult.
Get your head out of those nonsensical mainstream science books about gravity and what not and start looking at the real picture. I'm sure you've got it in you.

I'm not talking about gravity, I'm talking about anatomy. Breathing and circulation are controlled by cardiac muscle, smooth muscle, musculoskeletal muscle, and our sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems, all working together in beautiful harmony, and regulated by the amount of oxygen in our blood. The only way the atmosphere influences our respiratory system is through things like high altitude or diving (and breathing compressed air), plus high high pressure such as deep sea diving can have effect.  Day to day? No.  We are not "squeezed" to exhale.  Our heart is not "crushed" - it contracts through a sophisticated system of autonomic nerves.

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« Reply #470 on: April 11, 2014, 08:25:02 AM »

A similar question arises, which I will ask via another hypothetical scenario.  I have a ball bearing on a spring, ready to launch directly up. It's got a remote controlled release mechanism. On launching it, it pops into the air, let's say about half the height of an evacuatable cylinder.  I remove half the air from that chamber, then launch the ball bearing again. Under Denpressure, does the ball launch higher into the cylinder, or lower? Roughly how much of a change in height would be expected?
Similarly, how is the Ball's descent affected? Does it fall faster or slower?
The ball will go much higher then fall faster than it would under atmospheric conditions.

Could you be more specific? How much higher and how much faster do you predict? Also, I added a second question to my previous post.
I don't know how much higher or faster. That's down to the evacuation of pressure. Try it out and let me know.

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« Reply #471 on: April 11, 2014, 08:26:37 AM »


I'm not talking about gravity, I'm talking about anatomy. Breathing and circulation are controlled by cardiac muscle, smooth muscle, musculoskeletal muscle, and our sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems, all working together in beautiful harmony, and regulated by the amount of oxygen in our blood. The only way the atmosphere influences our respiratory system is through things like high altitude or diving (and breathing compressed air), plus high high pressure such as deep sea diving can have effect.  Day to day? No.  We are not "squeezed" to exhale.  Our heart is not "crushed" - it contracts through a sophisticated system of autonomic nerves.
I'm clearly wasting my time with you.

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« Reply #472 on: April 11, 2014, 08:38:29 AM »


I'm not talking about gravity, I'm talking about anatomy. Breathing and circulation are controlled by cardiac muscle, smooth muscle, musculoskeletal muscle, and our sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems, all working together in beautiful harmony, and regulated by the amount of oxygen in our blood. The only way the atmosphere influences our respiratory system is through things like high altitude or diving (and breathing compressed air), plus high high pressure such as deep sea diving can have effect.  Day to day? No.  We are not "squeezed" to exhale.  Our heart is not "crushed" - it contracts through a sophisticated system of autonomic nerves.
I'm clearly wasting my time with you.

Most science, I have a laypersons knowledge.  Human biology - not so.  Are you really going to discount proven biological mechanisms, that we have effective treatments for when they do not function as they should?  Pacemakers for example, to support the function of the cardiac nerve by stimulating the heart to contract / squeeze the blood out?

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« Reply #473 on: April 11, 2014, 08:53:15 AM »


I'm not talking about gravity, I'm talking about anatomy. Breathing and circulation are controlled by cardiac muscle, smooth muscle, musculoskeletal muscle, and our sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems, all working together in beautiful harmony, and regulated by the amount of oxygen in our blood. The only way the atmosphere influences our respiratory system is through things like high altitude or diving (and breathing compressed air), plus high high pressure such as deep sea diving can have effect.  Day to day? No.  We are not "squeezed" to exhale.  Our heart is not "crushed" - it contracts through a sophisticated system of autonomic nerves.
I'm clearly wasting my time with you.

Most science, I have a laypersons knowledge.  Human biology - not so.  Are you really going to discount proven biological mechanisms, that we have effective treatments for when they do not function as they should?  Pacemakers for example, to support the function of the cardiac nerve by stimulating the heart to contract / squeeze the blood out?
Like I told you earlier. Do you think I'm going to explain the full workings of every cell in the human body to come to the crux?
Your body works by friction, every part of it does. Friction is heat, it creates pressure differences in the cells. It has cells pushing on cells. You're a walking talking, seeing, vibrating machine. You are glowing, you just can't see it.
Your body is under pressure in every sense of the word and that pressure causes your body to vibrate against that pressure, you are constantly fighting it but are also in need of it. It's a perfect combination.
Your heart is under electrical impulses all caused by friction, you just have to understand it all to realise the simplicity of it. Magnets are the same thing. It's just that we all look at the complexity of what is actually simplicity in it's making.
It's a push on push with everything. Energy= vibration and frequency of all matter.
Everything is attached. Nothing is loose. It just expands and contracts causing a ripple effect as it agitates.
Believe it or don't. I'm simply telling you how it is.

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« Reply #474 on: April 11, 2014, 09:27:07 AM »
You still haven't explained why we specifically need O2 and not just compressed air.

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« Reply #475 on: April 11, 2014, 10:15:33 AM »

A similar question arises, which I will ask via another hypothetical scenario.  I have a ball bearing on a spring, ready to launch directly up. It's got a remote controlled release mechanism. On launching it, it pops into the air, let's say about half the height of an evacuatable cylinder.  I remove half the air from that chamber, then launch the ball bearing again. Under Denpressure, does the ball launch higher into the cylinder, or lower? Roughly how much of a change in height would be expected?
Similarly, how is the Ball's descent affected? Does it fall faster or slower?
The ball will go much higher then fall faster than it would under atmospheric conditions.

Could you be more specific? How much higher and how much faster do you predict? Also, I added a second question to my previous post.
I don't know how much higher or faster. That's down to the evacuation of pressure. Try it out and let me know.

You don't know? But this is your hypothesis. And I did tell you, it's at half an atmosphere.

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« Reply #476 on: April 11, 2014, 10:44:55 AM »


I'm not talking about gravity, I'm talking about anatomy. Breathing and circulation are controlled by cardiac muscle, smooth muscle, musculoskeletal muscle, and our sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems, all working together in beautiful harmony, and regulated by the amount of oxygen in our blood. The only way the atmosphere influences our respiratory system is through things like high altitude or diving (and breathing compressed air), plus high high pressure such as deep sea diving can have effect.  Day to day? No.  We are not "squeezed" to exhale.  Our heart is not "crushed" - it contracts through a sophisticated system of autonomic nerves.
I'm clearly wasting my time with you.

Most science, I have a laypersons knowledge.  Human biology - not so.  Are you really going to discount proven biological mechanisms, that we have effective treatments for when they do not function as they should?  Pacemakers for example, to support the function of the cardiac nerve by stimulating the heart to contract / squeeze the blood out?
Like I told you earlier. Do you think I'm going to explain the full workings of every cell in the human body to come to the crux?
Your body works by friction, every part of it does. Friction is heat, it creates pressure differences in the cells. It has cells pushing on cells. You're a walking talking, seeing, vibrating machine. You are glowing, you just can't see it.
Your body is under pressure in every sense of the word and that pressure causes your body to vibrate against that pressure, you are constantly fighting it but are also in need of it. It's a perfect combination.
Your heart is under electrical impulses all caused by friction, you just have to understand it all to realise the simplicity of it. Magnets are the same thing. It's just that we all look at the complexity of what is actually simplicity in it's making.
It's a push on push with everything. Energy= vibration and frequency of all matter.
Everything is attached. Nothing is loose. It just expands and contracts causing a ripple effect as it agitates.
Believe it or don't. I'm simply telling you how it is.

Again, just commenting on your earlier statements that atmospheric pressure squeezes the air out of our lungs to make us exhale, and also crushes our heart inward after it has filled with blood, aka a heart beat.  THOSE statements are not true.  Our body regulates its own internal pressures (both circulatory and respiratory) in order for the body to function.

I agree that at an atomic or lower level that everything is vibrating, but at that point you were referring to physiological systems, not cellular physiology, which is a whole new level of complicated.

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Re: Denpressure fails again.
« Reply #477 on: April 11, 2014, 11:50:22 PM »


I'm not talking about gravity, I'm talking about anatomy. Breathing and circulation are controlled by cardiac muscle, smooth muscle, musculoskeletal muscle, and our sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems, all working together in beautiful harmony, and regulated by the amount of oxygen in our blood. The only way the atmosphere influences our respiratory system is through things like high altitude or diving (and breathing compressed air), plus high high pressure such as deep sea diving can have effect.  Day to day? No.  We are not "squeezed" to exhale.  Our heart is not "crushed" - it contracts through a sophisticated system of autonomic nerves.
I'm clearly wasting my time with you.

Most science, I have a laypersons knowledge.  Human biology - not so.  Are you really going to discount proven biological mechanisms, that we have effective treatments for when they do not function as they should?  Pacemakers for example, to support the function of the cardiac nerve by stimulating the heart to contract / squeeze the blood out?
Like I told you earlier. Do you think I'm going to explain the full workings of every cell in the human body to come to the crux?
Your body works by friction, every part of it does. Friction is heat, it creates pressure differences in the cells. It has cells pushing on cells. You're a walking talking, seeing, vibrating machine. You are glowing, you just can't see it.
Your body is under pressure in every sense of the word and that pressure causes your body to vibrate against that pressure, you are constantly fighting it but are also in need of it. It's a perfect combination.
Your heart is under electrical impulses all caused by friction, you just have to understand it all to realise the simplicity of it. Magnets are the same thing. It's just that we all look at the complexity of what is actually simplicity in it's making.
It's a push on push with everything. Energy= vibration and frequency of all matter.
Everything is attached. Nothing is loose. It just expands and contracts causing a ripple effect as it agitates.
Believe it or don't. I'm simply telling you how it is.
Will you STFU already?
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Re: Denpressure fails again.
« Reply #478 on: April 12, 2014, 12:00:25 AM »
Do you need a day off? 

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Re: Denpressure fails again.
« Reply #479 on: April 12, 2014, 05:19:20 AM »
Your body works by friction, every part of it does. Friction is heat, it creates pressure differences in the cells. It has cells pushing on cells. You're a walking talking, seeing, vibrating machine. You are glowing, you just can't see it.
Your body is under pressure in every sense of the word and that pressure causes your body to vibrate against that pressure, you are constantly fighting it but are also in need of it. It's a perfect combination.
Your heart is under electrical impulses all caused by friction, you just have to understand it all to realise the simplicity of it. Magnets are the same thing. It's just that we all look at the complexity of what is actually simplicity in it's making.
It's a push on push with everything. Energy= vibration and frequency of all matter.
Everything is attached. Nothing is loose. It just expands and contracts causing a ripple effect as it agitates.
Believe it or don't. I'm simply telling you how it is.
Scepti, just because you can type this drivel doesn't make it true.  Or even comprehensible.
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