earth from outer space

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 30, 2014, 06:18:43 AM

not necessary related whit the disscussion but on the internet(www) it it more likely to find more convincing pictures(possibly real photographs,i don't want to argue that) of Mars's poles than of Earth's.this is truly weird      why is that?

I hear that a lot about REAL photograph. Now how would a REAL photograph of Antarctica would satisfy you? 
As for mars I will have to look it up. You can do that also.

i have all ready done that,but it is just optional with the Mars picture,let's say a personal home search for who ever want's to.also there is no need for YOU to search the south Eart's pole photograph/video,all that you have to do,again...if you want,is to approve(considering the specifications) if it is legitimate or not.
though if you really want to search for pictures you could also look for one with the north pole and you will find the same result,i believe..

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 30, 2014, 06:30:36 AM

Quote from: Starman on March 30, 2014, 06:13:43 AM

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 30, 2014, 06:01:59 AM

With just a picture like you send me does not prove it is real person. Now if you had it with a background it will help. By the way the picture is not a real person. Tell me why I know.

i used the link just not to spend time to make one myself,it is obvious is from a search of the internet.anyway the discussion we are having is not about the human face composite,is it?
so back on it: can you approve that the image yet provided enters in qualifications?

So you used a link. You don't know if it is real or not. I am telling you it is. The discussion is about images are real or not. You need a bit more than just a picture.

starman..i now that the picture i send you is not real...it is part of this project http://faceresearch.org/
why?do you know the guy?

Nope. If i know him he would be real. I knew in seconds it was not real. Guess how i knew that. There are two reasons.
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i like games,maybe i will start like you too...let's see
one,because of the weird hairdude?and second...i think i don't know...the background(as you said??)

Quote from: Starman on March 30, 2014, 06:23:12 AM

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 30, 2014, 06:18:43 AM

not necessary related whit the disscussion but on the internet(www) it it more likely to find more convincing pictures(possibly real photographs,i don't want to argue that) of Mars's poles than of Earth's.this is truly weird      why is that?

I hear that a lot about REAL photograph. Now how would a REAL photograph of Antarctica would satisfy you? 
As for mars I will have to look it up. You can do that also.

i have all ready done that,but it is just optional with the Mars picture,let's say a personal home search for who ever want's to.also there is no need for YOU to search the south Eart's pole photograph/video,all that you have to do,again...if you want,is to approve(considering the specifications) if it is legitimate or not.
though if you really want to search for pictures you could also look for one with the north pole and you will find the same result,i believe..

I can understand you sentences. Make a short statement or ask a question.

Quote from: Starman on March 30, 2014, 06:35:37 AM

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 30, 2014, 06:30:36 AM

Quote from: Starman on March 30, 2014, 06:13:43 AM

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 30, 2014, 06:01:59 AM

With just a picture like you send me does not prove it is real person. Now if you had it with a background it will help. By the way the picture is not a real person. Tell me why I know.

i used the link just not to spend time to make one myself,it is obvious is from a search of the internet.anyway the discussion we are having is not about the human face composite,is it?
so back on it: can you approve that the image yet provided enters in qualifications?

So you used a link. You don't know if it is real or not. I am telling you it is. The discussion is about images are real or not. You need a bit more than just a picture.

starman..i now that the picture i send you is not real...it is part of this project http://faceresearch.org/
why?do you know the guy?

Nope. If i know him he would be real. I knew in seconds it was not real. Guess how i knew that. There are two reasons.

i like games,maybe i will start like you too...let's see
one,because of the weird hairdude?and second...i think i don't know...the background(as you said??)
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Nope. the first is we were having a discussion about real pictures without information and you send me one. Even without looking i know you would send me a fake picture.
Second his face is too perfect. No facial impurities, birth marks, wrinkles or pimples. It is very rare a person will have a perfect symmetrical face.

All picture fake. All book fake. All science fake. All satellites fake. All GPS fake.

Earth Not Globe book of 1872- REAL!

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 30, 2014, 06:39:43 AM

Quote from: Starman on March 30, 2014, 06:23:12 AM

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 30, 2014, 06:18:43 AM

not necessary related whit the disscussion but on the internet(www) it it more likely to find more convincing pictures(possibly real photographs,i don't want to argue that) of Mars's poles than of Earth's.this is truly weird      why is that?

I hear that a lot about REAL photograph. Now how would a REAL photograph of Antarctica would satisfy you? 
As for mars I will have to look it up. You can do that also.

i have all ready done that,but it is just optional with the Mars picture,let's say a personal home search for who ever want's to.also there is no need for YOU to search the south Eart's pole photograph/video,all that you have to do,again...if you want,is to approve(considering the specifications) if it is legitimate or not.
though if you really want to search for pictures you could also look for one with the north pole and you will find the same result,i believe..

I can understand you sentences. Make a short statement or ask a question.

do you agree to be the judge of the photograph?

if yes,do you understand the requirements of the photograph/video?they are cited in a previous post

This is Thought Police Control. We have detected some of you are discovering the Flat Earth truth. Prepare for annihilation. You have cracked our code.

At NASA we make all the workers do crossword puzzles and fool the public into thinking we are launching Space Shuttles. All GPS Industry is not real

THERE IS NO SPOON!

You have found the truth. We will zap our laser beams into your home and silence you. This crusade must end. The Round Earth Cult must carry on our agenda.

Flat Earthers- Prepare for deletion...

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 30, 2014, 06:44:16 AM

Quote from: Starman on March 30, 2014, 06:35:37 AM

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 30, 2014, 06:30:36 AM

Quote from: Starman on March 30, 2014, 06:13:43 AM

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 30, 2014, 06:01:59 AM

With just a picture like you send me does not prove it is real person. Now if you had it with a background it will help. By the way the picture is not a real person. Tell me why I know.

i used the link just not to spend time to make one myself,it is obvious is from a search of the internet.anyway the discussion we are having is not about the human face composite,is it?
so back on it: can you approve that the image yet provided enters in qualifications?

So you used a link. You don't know if it is real or not. I am telling you it is. The discussion is about images are real or not. You need a bit more than just a picture.

starman..i now that the picture i send you is not real...it is part of this project http://faceresearch.org/
why?do you know the guy?

Nope. If i know him he would be real. I knew in seconds it was not real. Guess how i knew that. There are two reasons.

i like games,maybe i will start like you too...let's see
one,because of the weird hairdude?and second...i think i don't know...the background(as you said??)

Nope. the first is we were having a discussion about real pictures without information and you send me one. Even without looking i know you would send me a fake picture.
Second his face is too perfect. No facial impurities, birth marks, wrinkles or pimples. It is very rare a person will have a perfect symmetrical face.
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nice!,you can be quite the detective.please keep in mind so can any one else about any other subject.be not so quick to judge people's affirmation from now on.
one more question...and please don't take it personal.how good is your english language?i mean in terms of understanding words..

Quote from: Starman on March 30, 2014, 06:44:47 AM

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 30, 2014, 06:39:43 AM

Quote from: Starman on March 30, 2014, 06:23:12 AM

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 30, 2014, 06:18:43 AM

not necessary related whit the disscussion but on the internet(www) it it more likely to find more convincing pictures(possibly real photographs,i don't want to argue that) of Mars's poles than of Earth's.this is truly weird      why is that?

I hear that a lot about REAL photograph. Now how would a REAL photograph of Antarctica would satisfy you? 
As for mars I will have to look it up. You can do that also.

i have all ready done that,but it is just optional with the Mars picture,let's say a personal home search for who ever want's to.also there is no need for YOU to search the south Eart's pole photograph/video,all that you have to do,again...if you want,is to approve(considering the specifications) if it is legitimate or not.
though if you really want to search for pictures you could also look for one with the north pole and you will find the same result,i believe..

I can understand you sentences. Make a short statement or ask a question.

do you agree to be the judge of the photograph?

if yes,do you understand the requirements of the photograph/video?they are cited in a previous post

On any photograph you have to have the sense of presence to understand what is real or not. If I show a picture of Santa to a 4 year old he will be believe it. If it show the same picture in a asylum some may believe it. If my wife took a picture of a UFO it would believe the picture was taken from her. If I see events from FOX, CNN or BBC I will full confidence that is it 100% real. I have the sense to know those networks are real and not running under world conspiracy.

how does an image being a composite make it less authentic?

This is Thought Police Control. We have detected some of you are discovering the Flat Earth truth. Prepare for annihilation. You have cracked our code.

At NASA we make all the workers do crossword puzzles and fool the public into thinking we are launching Space Shuttles. All GPS Industry is not real

THERE IS NO SPOON!

You have found the truth. We will zap our laser beams into your home and silence you. This crusade must end. The Round Earth Cult must carry on our agenda.

Flat Earthers- Prepare for deletion...

i am part of neither of the organisations Round or Flat and i have laser and other kind's of shielding against any kind of annihilation.muahahaha!!!!!!
i have my own crusade : of finding the truth,whatever that my be.so Thought Police Control can go beg attention elsewhere

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 30, 2014, 06:56:22 AM

Quote from: Starman on March 30, 2014, 06:44:47 AM

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 30, 2014, 06:39:43 AM

Quote from: Starman on March 30, 2014, 06:23:12 AM

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 30, 2014, 06:18:43 AM

not necessary related whit the disscussion but on the internet(www) it it more likely to find more convincing pictures(possibly real photographs,i don't want to argue that) of Mars's poles than of Earth's.this is truly weird      why is that?

I hear that a lot about REAL photograph. Now how would a REAL photograph of Antarctica would satisfy you? 
As for mars I will have to look it up. You can do that also.

i have all ready done that,but it is just optional with the Mars picture,let's say a personal home search for who ever want's to.also there is no need for YOU to search the south Eart's pole photograph/video,all that you have to do,again...if you want,is to approve(considering the specifications) if it is legitimate or not.
though if you really want to search for pictures you could also look for one with the north pole and you will find the same result,i believe..

I can understand you sentences. Make a short statement or ask a question.

do you agree to be the judge of the photograph?

if yes,do you understand the requirements of the photograph/video?they are cited in a previous post

On any photograph you have to have the sense of presence to understand what is real or not. If I show a picture of Santa to a 4 year old he will be believe it. If it show the same picture in a asylum some may believe it. If my wife took a picture of a UFO it would believe the picture was taken from her. If I see events from FOX, CNN or BBC I will full confidence that is it 100% real. I have the sense to know those networks are real and not running under world conspiracy.

Wait what? Fox News does less fact checking than any other news program. The Media totally distorts stories. I would not say we can always accept their photos are real. Many news networks are run by corrupt powerful corporations such as Clear Channel.

Quote from: Jer9999 on March 30, 2014, 07:02:48 AM

This is Thought Police Control. We have detected some of you are discovering the Flat Earth truth. Prepare for annihilation. You have cracked our code.

At NASA we make all the workers do crossword puzzles and fool the public into thinking we are launching Space Shuttles. All GPS Industry is not real

THERE IS NO SPOON!

You have found the truth. We will zap our laser beams into your home and silence you. This crusade must end. The Round Earth Cult must carry on our agenda.

Flat Earthers- Prepare for deletion...

i am part of neither of the organisations Round or Flat and i have laser and other kind's of shielding against any kind of annihilation.muahahaha!!!!!!
i have my own crusade : of finding the truth,whatever that my be.so Thought Police Control can go beg attention elsewhere

The Buddha spent many years seeking the Truth. He did everything imaginable to escape the suffering of the world and to find the ultimate happiness. Until one day he sat against a tree and said, "Fuck it! There is no absolute Truth." Then he became enlightened.

how does an image being a composite make it less authentic?

an image being composite doesn't make it,it's self,less authentic it is as real as any other image
for example http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/fake-dog-sushi.jpg  this image is real but the content is composite,not the same way as the one with Antarctica certainly but it is made to look as what it looks.that means the pieces are real but the result is questionable
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_image_filter
https://cdn.tutsplus.com/cg/uploads/legacy/uploads/2/t_prev.jpg  just for the fun of it

Quote from: rottingroom on March 30, 2014, 07:13:33 AM

how does an image being a composite make it less authentic?

an image being composite doesn't make it,it's self,less authentic it is as real as any other image
for example http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/fake-dog-sushi.jpg  this image is real but the content is composite,not the same way as the one with Antarctica certainly but it is made to look as what it looks.that means the pieces are real but the result is questionable
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_image_filter
https://cdn.tutsplus.com/cg/uploads/legacy/uploads/2/t_prev.jpg  just for the fun of it

I know what a composite is. I'm a meteorologist and I look at composite satellite images all day. I'm just saying that so what if its a composite. It must be done that way with a major it of satellites because of their altitude. If you'd like I can provide you with links to real time feeds of weather SATs.

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 30, 2014, 07:48:32 AM

Quote from: rottingroom on March 30, 2014, 07:13:33 AM

how does an image being a composite make it less authentic?

an image being composite doesn't make it,it's self,less authentic it is as real as any other image
for example http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/fake-dog-sushi.jpg  this image is real but the content is composite,not the same way as the one with Antarctica certainly but it is made to look as what it looks.that means the pieces are real but the result is questionable
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_image_filter
https://cdn.tutsplus.com/cg/uploads/legacy/uploads/2/t_prev.jpg  just for the fun of it

I know what a composite is. I'm a meteorologist and I look at composite satellite images all day. I'm just saying that so what if its a composite. It must be done that way with a major it of satellites because of their altitude. If you'd like I can provide you with links to real time feeds of weather SATs.

that will be really cool,i would like that!it is nice to watch those kind of images,it reminds in a way of the real thing,though it will be really grate to look at some outlying video pictures,just to make every one believe that our planet is A planet(round one) with two poles and a beautiful  blue atmosphere.

Quote from: rottingroom on March 30, 2014, 08:04:28 AM

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 30, 2014, 07:48:32 AM

Quote from: rottingroom on March 30, 2014, 07:13:33 AM

how does an image being a composite make it less authentic?

an image being composite doesn't make it,it's self,less authentic it is as real as any other image
for example http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/fake-dog-sushi.jpg  this image is real but the content is composite,not the same way as the one with Antarctica certainly but it is made to look as what it looks.that means the pieces are real but the result is questionable
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_image_filter
https://cdn.tutsplus.com/cg/uploads/legacy/uploads/2/t_prev.jpg  just for the fun of it

I know what a composite is. I'm a meteorologist and I look at composite satellite images all day. I'm just saying that so what if its a composite. It must be done that way with a major it of satellites because of their altitude. If you'd like I can provide you with links to real time feeds of weather SATs.

that will be really cool,i would like that!it is nice to watch those kind of images,it reminds in a way of the real thing,though it will be really grate to look at some outlying video pictures,just to make every one believe that our planet is A planet(round one) with two poles and a beautiful  blue atmosphere.

This may help in detailed view of Antarctica.  http://lima.usgs.gov/

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 30, 2014, 02:24:00 PM

Quote from: rottingroom on March 30, 2014, 08:04:28 AM

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 30, 2014, 07:48:32 AM

Quote from: rottingroom on March 30, 2014, 07:13:33 AM

how does an image being a composite make it less authentic?

an image being composite doesn't make it,it's self,less authentic it is as real as any other image
for example http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/fake-dog-sushi.jpg  this image is real but the content is composite,not the same way as the one with Antarctica certainly but it is made to look as what it looks.that means the pieces are real but the result is questionable
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_image_filter
https://cdn.tutsplus.com/cg/uploads/legacy/uploads/2/t_prev.jpg  just for the fun of it

I know what a composite is. I'm a meteorologist and I look at composite satellite images all day. I'm just saying that so what if its a composite. It must be done that way with a major it of satellites because of their altitude. If you'd like I can provide you with links to real time feeds of weather SATs.

that will be really cool,i would like that!it is nice to watch those kind of images,it reminds in a way of the real thing,though it will be really grate to look at some outlying video pictures,just to make every one believe that our planet is A planet(round one) with two poles and a beautiful  blue atmosphere.

This may help in detailed view of Antarctica.  http://lima.usgs.gov/

thanks...this might have a hint of way there is no above non composite photograph,though it does not explain in details,we can just imagjne : "Pan to view the continent and zoom in to see the stunning detail of this Natural-Color, Pan-Sharpened LIMA (bands 3, 2, 1). LIMA covers the entire continent except from the South Pole at 90 degrees south to 82.5 degrees south latitude, where Landsat has no coverage because of its near-polar orbit. To provide a continental view, the image above has LIMA 3, 2, 1 overlaying the MODIS Mosaic of Antarctica (MOA). "

I guess by now that most rational people here will have noticed that the very best logic [sic] that the flat earthers can come up with is simply to attempt—repeatedly—to debunk any genuine images posted by round earthers.

But... not one flat earther has posted ONE single image that indicates in any way at all the truth of their flat earth claims.

It's all too easy to simply attack the other proponent's evidence but at the same time, offer NO credible and contrary photographic evidence of your own.  Basic logic tells us this.

So... until the flat earthers can post an alternative photographic image, we can safely assume that the image I posted is legitimate.  The ball is fairly and squarely in your court flat earthers.

Go for it... if you can.
 

Quote from: Starman on March 30, 2014, 02:28:44 PM

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 30, 2014, 02:24:00 PM

Quote from: rottingroom on March 30, 2014, 08:04:28 AM

Quote from: djuptsjomaour on March 30, 2014, 07:48:32 AM

Quote from: rottingroom on March 30, 2014, 07:13:33 AM

how does an image being a composite make it less authentic?

an image being composite doesn't make it,it's self,less authentic it is as real as any other image
for example http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/fake-dog-sushi.jpg  this image is real but the content is composite,not the same way as the one with Antarctica certainly but it is made to look as what it looks.that means the pieces are real but the result is questionable
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_image_filter
https://cdn.tutsplus.com/cg/uploads/legacy/uploads/2/t_prev.jpg  just for the fun of it

I know what a composite is. I'm a meteorologist and I look at composite satellite images all day. I'm just saying that so what if its a composite. It must be done that way with a major it of satellites because of their altitude. If you'd like I can provide you with links to real time feeds of weather SATs.

that will be really cool,i would like that!it is nice to watch those kind of images,it reminds in a way of the real thing,though it will be really grate to look at some outlying video pictures,just to make every one believe that our planet is A planet(round one) with two poles and a beautiful  blue atmosphere.

This may help in detailed view of Antarctica.  http://lima.usgs.gov/

thanks...this might have a hint of way there is no above non composite photograph,though it does not explain in details,we can just imagjne : "Pan to view the continent and zoom in to see the stunning detail of this Natural-Color, Pan-Sharpened LIMA (bands 3, 2, 1). LIMA covers the entire continent except from the South Pole at 90 degrees south to 82.5 degrees south latitude, where Landsat has no coverage because of its near-polar orbit. To provide a continental view, the image above has LIMA 3, 2, 1 overlaying the MODIS Mosaic of Antarctica (MOA). "

Landstat covers all of the earth. That is why they use polar orbits.

So... until the flat earthers can post an alternative photographic image, we can safely assume that the image I posted is legitimate.  The ball is fairly and squarely in your court flat earthers.

Go for it... if you can.

What?  If the FE'ers can't fake a picture as well as NASA, then NASA automatically wins?  Is this a photoshop contest?  Are you drunk or something?  That makes no logical sense and only makes it seem that you are scraping the bottom of the barrel out of desperation. 

Quote from: ausGeoff on March 31, 2014, 04:29:29 AM

So... until the flat earthers can post an alternative photographic image, we can safely assume that the image I posted is legitimate.  The ball is fairly and squarely in your court flat earthers.

Go for it... if you can.

What?  If the FE'ers can't fake a picture as well as NASA, then NASA automatically wins?  Is this a photoshop contest?  Are you drunk or something?  That makes no logical sense and only makes it seem that you are scraping the bottom of the barrel out of desperation.

You don't even have a good map in the FE.

How many maps have you made?

How many maps have you made?

I ask you first.

No, you made a statement.  I responded with an interrogative.  Get it right. 

What?  If the FE'ers can't fake a picture as well as NASA, then NASA automatically wins?  Is this a photoshop contest?  Are you drunk or something?  That makes no logical sense and only makes it seem that you are scraping the bottom of the barrel out of desperation.

Nobody—least of all me—has asked the flat earthers to post images that match NASA's (whether bogus or not).  All we've asked for, repeatedly, is one single image (authentic or not) that purports to show a flat earth.  And thus far, no flat earther has been willing or able to do this simple thing.  Why not?  Wouldn't that tend to be the ultimate evidence for a flat earth model?

And I can only assume your snide comment that I'm "drunk or something" is meant to disguise the fact that you don't have an answer.

Ad hominem attacks are a sure sign that someone has been backed into a corner by their opponent.  Sorry.
 

No, you made a statement.  I responded with an interrogative.  Get it right.

Wrong again jroa.  You responded with one of your typical rhetorical non-answers.  You cannot answer a question with another question—or "interrogative" as you frame it LOL.

And I have to say your lack of sensible answers that actually address the question in hand is becoming somewhat boring.  And predictable.
 

Nobody—least of all me—has asked the flat earthers to post images that match NASA's (whether bogus or not).  All we've asked for, repeatedly, is one single image (authentic or not) that purports to show a flat earth. 

Oh, in that case, here you go. 



Another win for the FES. 

Quote from: jroa on March 31, 2014, 05:12:49 AM

No, you made a statement.  I responded with an interrogative.  Get it right.

Wrong again jroa.  You responded with one of your typical rhetorical non-answers.  You cannot answer a question with another question—or "interrogative" as you frame it LOL.

And I have to say your lack of sensible answers that actually address the question in hand is becoming somewhat boring.  And predictable.
 

I did not answer a question with a question.  He made a statement, I followed it with a question.  There was not even a question mark in his statement.  Please stop making stuff up.  If you feel like you are getting backed into a corner, take a brake for a while.  We will wait. 

Quote from: ausGeoff on March 31, 2014, 05:18:30 AM

Nobody—least of all me—has asked the flat earthers to post images that match NASA's (whether bogus or not).  All we've asked for, repeatedly, is one single image (authentic or not) that purports to show a flat earth. 

Oh, in that case, here you go. 



Another win for the FES.

Very good, and you can show that distances tie up with reality?  eg Sydney to Santiago.