How FE'ers view scientist.

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How FE'ers view scientist.
« on: March 22, 2014, 02:20:38 PM »
I am curious khow FE'ers opinion of scientist. Do you see them all working for government or military. Are your views of them negative? Are they professionals? Do they have a passion in the research they do.

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Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2014, 02:26:21 PM »
I am curious khow FE'ers opinion of scientist. Do you see them all working for government or military. Are your views of them negative? Are they professionals? Do they have a passion in the research they do.
You just don't get it do you?

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Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2014, 02:27:33 PM »
I am curious khow FE'ers opinion of scientist. Do you see them all working for government or military. Are your views of them negative? Are they professionals? Do they have a passion in the research they do.
You just don't get it do you?
Entertain me!

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Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2014, 02:32:15 PM »
I am curious khow FE'ers opinion of scientist. Do you see them all working for government or military. Are your views of them negative? Are they professionals? Do they have a passion in the research they do.
You just don't get it do you?
What is your view of the scientist that designed your computer.

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Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2014, 02:37:04 PM »
I am curious khow FE'ers opinion of scientist. Do you see them all working for government or military. Are your views of them negative? Are they professionals? Do they have a passion in the research they do.
You just don't get it do you?

What do you mean by "it"?

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Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2014, 02:51:47 PM »
I am curious khow FE'ers opinion of scientist. Do you see them all working for government or military. Are your views of them negative? Are they professionals? Do they have a passion in the research they do.
You just don't get it do you?
Sometimes I ask questions like that to see who has negative attitudes and are very defensive. Most FE'ers are. Sign of insecurity.

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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2014, 02:56:42 PM »
I am curious khow FE'ers opinion of scientist. Do you see them all working for government or military. Are your views of them negative? Are they professionals? Do they have a passion in the research they do.
You just don't get it do you?
Entertain me!

You like to put yourself above the FEer and ask questions of this calibre.
They do not all work for the government or military they work for other organisations as well!
I only have negative views of ones corrupted by money!
Some would act professionally and some would not!
Some would have a passion for what they do and some would be pissed at what they have to do!

Now here is what you really want me to say,
They are all mad.
They work for KAOS, luminati, jews etc.
And they all lie.

Get over yourself.

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Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2014, 03:00:42 PM »
I am curious khow FE'ers opinion of scientist. Do you see them all working for government or military. Are your views of them negative? Are they professionals? Do they have a passion in the research they do.
You just don't get it do you?
Entertain me!

You like to put yourself above the FEer and ask questions of this calibre.
They do not all work for the government or military they work for other organisations as well!
I only have negative views of ones corrupted by money!
Some would act professionally and some would not!
Some would have a passion for what they do and some would be pissed at what they have to do!

Now here is what you really want me to say,
They are all mad.
They work for KAOS, luminati, jews etc.
And they all lie.

Get over yourself.
Thank you. I just want to satisfy my study of the minds of the FE'ers. It would not be fair to say ALL FE'ers believe "this or that" unless i have opinions of some of you. I don't want to pass judgement on something unless in know the facts.

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Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2014, 03:14:14 PM »

Thank you. I just want to satisfy my study of the minds of the FE'ers. It would not be fair to say ALL FE'ers believe "this or that" unless i have opinions of some of you. I don't want to pass judgement on something unless in know the facts.
You may think that because you believe that the earth is round and I believe the earth is flat that we both belong to separate groups, however lets not forget that we are both members of the Flat Earth Society which to outsiders puts us in a group together.
So do not forget to include yourself in your study.

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Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2014, 03:51:11 PM »
I am curious khow FE'ers opinion of scientist. Do you see them all working for government or military. Are your views of them negative? Are they professionals? Do they have a passion in the research they do.
You just don't get it do you?
Sometimes I ask questions like that to see who has negative attitudes and are very defensive. Most FE'ers are. Sign of insecurity.

You make lots of posts in an attempt to ridicule the FEers on this site. Most of them don't respond to you at all. You're not very scientific.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2014, 04:55:44 PM »
It all depends on what starman means by scientists. Be specific, starman.

Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2014, 11:06:20 AM »

Thank you. I just want to satisfy my study of the minds of the FE'ers. It would not be fair to say ALL FE'ers believe "this or that" unless i have opinions of some of you. I don't want to pass judgement on something unless in know the facts.
You may think that because you believe that the earth is round and I believe the earth is flat that we both belong to separate groups, however lets not forget that we are both members of the Flat Earth Society which to outsiders puts us in a group together.
So do not forget to include yourself in your study.

Being a member of the society and being a member of the forum are two different things.
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Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2014, 08:34:13 AM »

Thank you. I just want to satisfy my study of the minds of the FE'ers. It would not be fair to say ALL FE'ers believe "this or that" unless i have opinions of some of you. I don't want to pass judgement on something unless in know the facts.
You may think that because you believe that the earth is round and I believe the earth is flat that we both belong to separate groups, however lets not forget that we are both members of the Flat Earth Society which to outsiders puts us in a group together.
So do not forget to include yourself in your study.
There is a big difference how FE and RE think. If the RE'ers would think like FE'ers it would be normal to think the world would be flat so this site would not exist. For the time that I have interacted with both FE and RE that is a definitely big difference. Maybe you can go to a round earth society site and study them.

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Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2014, 08:35:49 AM »
It all depends on what starman means by scientists. Be specific, starman.
Here is the definition: a person who is studying or has expert knowledge of one or more of the natural or physical sciences.
The natural sciences seek to understand how the world and universe around us works. There are five major branches: Chemistry, astronomy, earth science, physics, and biology.
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Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2014, 08:46:00 AM »
It all depends on what starman means by scientists. Be specific, starman.
Here is the definition: a person who is studying or has expert knowledge of one or more of the natural or physical sciences.
The natural sciences seek to understand how the world and universe around us works. There are five major branches: Chemistry, astronomy, earth science, physics, and biology.
So what kind of scientist is Hawking?

Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2014, 09:26:24 AM »
It all depends on what starman means by scientists. Be specific, starman.
Here is the definition: a person who is studying or has expert knowledge of one or more of the natural or physical sciences.
The natural sciences seek to understand how the world and universe around us works. There are five major branches: Chemistry, astronomy, earth science, physics, and biology.
So what kind of scientist is Hawking?
Look it up.

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Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2014, 11:25:00 AM »
It all depends on what starman means by scientists. Be specific, starman.
Here is the definition: a person who is studying or has expert knowledge of one or more of the natural or physical sciences.
The natural sciences seek to understand how the world and universe around us works. There are five major branches: Chemistry, astronomy, earth science, physics, and biology.
So what kind of scientist is Hawking?
Look it up.
I don't know what he is. What is he?

Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2014, 11:35:06 AM »
It all depends on what starman means by scientists. Be specific, starman.
Here is the definition: a person who is studying or has expert knowledge of one or more of the natural or physical sciences.
The natural sciences seek to understand how the world and universe around us works. There are five major branches: Chemistry, astronomy, earth science, physics, and biology.
So what kind of scientist is Hawking?
Look it up.
I don't know what he is. What is he?
Have you heard of him?

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Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2014, 11:41:48 AM »

Yeah...but I don't know what he does.

Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2014, 11:46:39 AM »

Yeah...but I don't know what he does.
So do what everyone else does and look it up.

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Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2014, 12:04:45 PM »

Yeah...but I don't know what he does.
So do what everyone else does and look it up.
Yeah I have. I still don't know what he does.

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Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2014, 12:27:32 PM »
It all depends on what starman means by scientists. Be specific, starman.
Here is the definition: a person who is studying or has expert knowledge of one or more of the natural or physical sciences.
The natural sciences seek to understand how the world and universe around us works. There are five major branches: Chemistry, astronomy, earth science, physics, and biology.
So what kind of scientist is Hawking?
Why are you asking stupid questions. LOOK IT UP!!

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Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2014, 12:28:44 PM »

Yeah...but I don't know what he does.
We are not going to hold your hand. Look it up!

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Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2014, 01:39:03 PM »
Oh, I guess that means you're okay with us telling you to use the search whenever you ask the same questions that have been asked and answered thousands of times?
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2014, 08:38:49 AM »
This discussion has been dormant for a few weeks, but I hope to resurrect it because I think it brings up an interesting point. I'd like to interpret the question slightly differently, rather than focus on peoples' opinions of scientists that interact directly with fields related to earth's shape and size, I'd like to know how people feel about scientists in general - particularly how they feel about the scientific community's approach to testing hypotheses, establishing a null hypothesis (I.e. assigning the burden of proof), and ultimately coming to a general consensus.

I'm a microbiologist and neuroscientist, my fields of study have nothing to do with the shape of the earth or employing technologies the depend on a known shape of the earth. However, being a scientist, I have training and experienced in forming hypotheses based on available data, testing hypotheses with observations and experimentation, interpreting data and assessing if data and my deductions support a hypothesis or not. I go into further length about this here (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=61407.0). Based on everything I said in that post, on how scientists view what it means to form hypotheses and test hypotheses and deduce a more accurate view of the world around us, this is why the scientific community sees no controversy over the shape of the earth. In my time, I have never once met another scientist of any field that considered the shape of the he earth to be a controversial matter, carful observation, systematic hypothesis testing, and generations of hypotheses built upon a mostly spherical earth have stood up to scientific rigger without fail. Indoctrination, a word that is commonly used on this forum, has nothing to do with forming and testing hypotheses, the rigorous interpretation of data will inevitably lead us to a better understanding of  the universe, there may be detours along the way, but these detours do not last long.
Those who have an excessive faith in their theories or in their ideas are not only poorly disposed to make discoveries, but they also make very poor observations.
Claude Bernard, 1865

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Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2014, 08:52:59 AM »
Most scientists are essentially good people.  They are simply mistaken about the shape of the Earth. 

If you assume the Earth to be flat, then it is easy to make the data fit that model. 

Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2014, 08:57:08 AM »
Most scientists are essentially good people.  They are simply mistaken about the shape of the Earth. 

If you assume the Earth to be flat, then it is easy to make the data fit that model.
Please list the data that fits with a flat earth model.

Verified distances, satallite dish angles?

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Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2014, 08:59:55 AM »
Most scientists are essentially good people.  They are simply mistaken about the shape of the Earth. 

If you assume the Earth to be flat, then it is easy to make the data fit that model.
There are a lots of different types of scientist and they are specialist in their field. For you to say that they are wrong tells me you know nothing about scientist. Remember you told me that are at least 150 millions people smarter than you. Now that is for the average person. I am be sure scientist are a lot smarter than you and have better knowledge about this world.

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« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2014, 09:01:01 AM »


If you assume the Earth to be flat, then it is easy to make the data fit that model.
Yes, they should all switch over to a model that assumes a conspiracy involving hundreds of millions of people over decades, and that can't even explain why the sun sets every evening.   ::)
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Re: How FE'ers view scientist.
« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2014, 09:01:14 AM »
Oh, I guess that means you're okay with us telling you to use the search whenever you ask the same questions that have been asked and answered thousands of times?

You can't be serious. Nothing about FES makes sense and that is why there are questions. Not to mention that FE'rs do say, "go read the wiki", despite the fact that that just begs more questions. Most of the questions FE'rs ask about RE stuff really can be answered with a search.