How Do Flat Earters Explain an Eclipse?

I really would love to hear this one. Let me go grab some popcorn and a brew.

the moon passes in front of the sun. since they are both 32 miles wide and only 100 miles apart (on average) the moon does a pretty good job at blacking direct sunlight. (but when it does not, a ring of direct sunlight remains.

Doesn't this go against your model of how the sun and moon revolve over the Earth? Do you have a Flat Earth eclipse visual?

Why would his answer go against the flat Earth model?  The sun and the moon have circular orbits and sometimes the two objects appear to overlap from certain vantage points on Earth.  Nothing in that goes against flat Earth theory.

Can you post a picture of how an eclipse works in the Flat Earth model? How would they overlap occasionally according to the Flat Earth model? You are talking about the moon going over the sun, but there are eclipses when the Earth is between the sun and the moon. How do you explain that?

Can you post a picture of how an eclipse works in the Flat Earth model? How would they overlap occasionally according to the Flat Earth model? You are talking about the moon going over the sun, but there are eclipses when the Earth is between the sun and the moon. How do you explain that?

You can't have the moon and sun close to the earth and have the same shadow effect on earth as the RE model. Even if the size are smaller.

Of course you can have this affect with smaller moon and sun.  Why do you think the eclipse is only seen by a small percentage of the Earth?

the moon passes in front of the sun. since they are both 32 miles wide and only 100 miles apart (on average) the moon does a pretty good job at blacking direct sunlight. (but when it does not, a ring of direct sunlight remains.

Where do you get that the moon and the sun are 100 miles apart ? The only FE thing I have ever seen is both the moon and the sun are 3000 miles from the earth. This is a new one.

Also what I have seen previously is the FE explanation for an eclipse is that some mysterious dark object gets in front of the sun and causes the eclipse.

The sun and the moon have circular orbits and sometimes the two objects appear to overlap from certain vantage points on Earth. 

This is based on the moon having a smaller (and lower) radius of orbit above the planet I assume?  That would account for the moon "hiding" the sun from some viewpoints—if they're the same size.

But... I would've thought the flat earth sun would be much larger and brighter than the flat earth moon?  But the RE Wiki says they're both 32 miles in diameter.  Also, there's no comparison of the brightness of each relative to the other.

(I note that the "Lunar Eclipse" entry of the RE Wiki has been deleted.  Will it be replaced?)
 

The Lunar eclipse will probably be added back.  Some probably was meaning to rewrite it, and never finished.  Don't worry, though, the Antimoon is still there. 

The Lunar eclipse will probably be added back.  Some probably was meaning to rewrite it, and never finished.  Don't worry, though, the Antimoon is still there.

RE Wiki says:  "It is theorized that the Antimoon passes between the earth and the moon..."

A "theory" is a coherent group of tested and replicable scientific propositions.  Can you tell me more about this antimoon theory; who—specifically—first proposed its hypothesis, and also what sort of peer review this hypothesis underwent?

Or is there no consensus amongst flat earthers that the antimoon actually exists?

Haha the anti moon. There s no end to this madness. Does the anti-Christ live on the anti-moon? Please do us all a favor and go into details about the anti-moon.

Can you tell me more about this antimoon theory; who—specifically—first proposed its hypothesis, and also what sort of peer review this hypothesis underwent?

I don't yet subscribe to this theory.  You seemed disappointed that the Lunar Eclipse part was missing, so I gave you one of the theories for the moon phases instead.  You are welcome to use the search function to research the topic. 

I don't yet subscribe to this theory.

Fair enough.  Thanks for clarifying it.
 

The Lunar eclipse will probably be added back.  Some probably was meaning to rewrite it, and never finished.  Don't worry, though, the Antimoon is still there.

Even if there were such a thing as Antimoon it still would have to be behind the earth from the sun. Fact is the moon has an eclipse and it is because it is in the earth's shadow.

Why that be true?  We only see lunar eclipses at night.  If the Antimoon is true, then maybe we just do not see its effects during the day. 

Why that be true?  We only see lunar eclipses at night.  If the Antimoon is true, then maybe we just do not see its effects during the day.

We only see the lunar eclipse at night is because it is in the earth shadow. That it is call a lunar eclipse and not a sun eclipse. There is a different. We are talking about two different events. Look video at the tread i started.

I am the one who brought up the Antimoon, and I know it ended up derailing the thread.  I admit this.  However, I did give you answer on the OP. 

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Interesting, but I have seen all that before.  I don't know why RE'ers think we are uneducated about science. 

Interesting, but I have seen all that before.  I don't know why RE'ers think we are uneducated about science.

Great then explain in logical and simple terms how does a lunar eclipse work in the FE world.

You're not uneducated, just plain stupid.

I know you guys believe the Earth is bigger than the Sun (LOL) whatever...
For sake of the argument I will play along with you lunatics:



This pic clearly explain the time zones, the Sun is so small that the amount of light is reduced to the area where the Sun is hovering Earth, however the Moon as well is hovering. Question: what is the distance between the moon and the Sun?
Also, it appears from that pic that the Moon only shows up at night because the light of the Sun can't reach the Moon, if it did, the time zones wouldn't exist... hey! Don't look at me, this nonsense is yours not mine, I took the pic from your own website.

This raise even bigger questions, in that pic how can we see the Moon during day? How eclipses happen? How do you explain the phases of the Moon?

I'd like to see a model to account for everything we've witnessed up in the sky.

If the picture is incorrect, show me a better one, but it is incredible how you guys are not consistent in your stupidity. You all have different views and explanations, if you want to believe in a flat earth, by all means, but don't attempt to do science while at it, there is something called "pseudoscience" which is what you people are doing without realizing it, that's how you believe this stuff.

The Earth is round why?

Because if you travel in a straight line you get to the same place you started, you can't do this in a flat surface, you will hit an edge, the only way to do this in a disk shaped flat earth is to go around the circle, but that's not a straight line, is it? If you really don't understand this.... well what the heck am I saying, like you guys can understand something about anything.

Back to subject:

Give me a model on how the moon can be seen during day in flat earth world view, how the phases of the moon occur, and how eclipses occur?

/popcorn

Quote from: jroa on March 20, 2014, 08:40:30 AM

Interesting, but I have seen all that before.  I don't know why RE'ers think we are uneducated about science.

Great then explain in logical and simple terms how does a lunar eclipse work in the FE world.

I will tell you again, I have never seen one.  Neither have you.  Perhaps they don't happen? 

You're not uneducated, just plain stupid.

I know you guys believe the Earth is bigger than the Sun (LOL) whatever...
For sake of the argument I will play along with you lunatics:



This pic clearly explain the time zones, the Sun is so small that the amount of light is reduced to the area where the Sun is hovering Earth, however the Moon as well is hovering. Question: what is the distance between the moon and the Sun?
Also, it appears from that pic that the Moon only shows up at night because the light of the Sun can't reach the Moon, if it did, the time zones wouldn't exist... hey! Don't look at me, this nonsense is yours not mine, I took the pic from your own website.

This raise even bigger questions, in that pic how can we see the Moon during day? How eclipses happen? How do you explain the phases of the Moon?

I'd like to see a model to account for everything we've witnessed up in the sky.

If the picture is incorrect, show me a better one, but it is incredible how you guys are not consistent in your stupidity. You all have different views and explanations, if you want to believe in a flat earth, by all means, but don't attempt to do science while at it, there is something called "pseudoscience" which is what you people are doing without realizing it, that's how you believe this stuff.

The Earth is round why?

Because if you travele in a straight line you get to the same place you started, you can't do this in a flat surface, you will hit an edge, the only way to do this in a diks shaped flat earth is to go around the circle, but that's not a straight line, is it? If you really don't understand this.... well what the heck am I saying, like you guys can understand something about anything.

Back to subject:

Give me a model on how the moon can be seen during day in flat earth world view, how the phases of the moon occur, and how eclipses occur?

/popcorn

Why don't you pick one question and ask it.  I don't have time to answer 20 questions in detail.  Make it quick, please. 

Quote from: Starman on March 20, 2014, 08:44:08 AM

Quote from: jroa on March 20, 2014, 08:40:30 AM

Interesting, but I have seen all that before.  I don't know why RE'ers think we are uneducated about science.

Great then explain in logical and simple terms how does a lunar eclipse work in the FE world.

I will tell you again, I have never seen one.  Neither have you.  Perhaps they don't happen?

Well get up in April and i will also. With any luck I will take a picture. You know it exist. Don't bullshit me.

You know that you can't prove what it is, if in fact it does happen. 

Quote from: sergechamps on March 20, 2014, 08:45:09 AM

You're not uneducated, just plain stupid.

I know you guys believe the Earth is bigger than the Sun (LOL) whatever...
For sake of the argument I will play along with you lunatics:



This pic clearly explain the time zones, the Sun is so small that the amount of light is reduced to the area where the Sun is hovering Earth, however the Moon as well is hovering. Question: what is the distance between the moon and the Sun?
Also, it appears from that pic that the Moon only shows up at night because the light of the Sun can't reach the Moon, if it did, the time zones wouldn't exist... hey! Don't look at me, this nonsense is yours not mine, I took the pic from your own website.

This raise even bigger questions, in that pic how can we see the Moon during day? How eclipses happen? How do you explain the phases of the Moon?

I'd like to see a model to account for everything we've witnessed up in the sky.

If the picture is incorrect, show me a better one, but it is incredible how you guys are not consistent in your stupidity. You all have different views and explanations, if you want to believe in a flat earth, by all means, but don't attempt to do science while at it, there is something called "pseudoscience" which is what you people are doing without realizing it, that's how you believe this stuff.

The Earth is round why?

Because if you travele in a straight line you get to the same place you started, you can't do this in a flat surface, you will hit an edge, the only way to do this in a diks shaped flat earth is to go around the circle, but that's not a straight line, is it? If you really don't understand this.... well what the heck am I saying, like you guys can understand something about anything.

Back to subject:

Give me a model on how the moon can be seen during day in flat earth world view, how the phases of the moon occur, and how eclipses occur?

/popcorn

Why don't you pick one question and ask it.  I don't have time to answer 20 questions in detail.  Make it quick, please.

Of course you missed this:

Back to subject:

Give me a model on how the moon can be seen during day in flat earth world view, how the phases of the moon occur, and how eclipses occur?

My question is: Give me a model on how the moon can be seen during day in flat earth world view, how the phases of the moon occur, and how eclipses occur?

Easy and clear enough for you?

Now go...


/popcorn

The moon is sometimes one the same side of the Earth as the sun.  Are you really having a problem with this?  You do realize that the moon and sun do not orbit at the exact same speed, right? 

The moon is sometimes one the same side of the Earth as the sun.  Are you really having a problem with this?  You do realize that the moon and sun do not orbit at the exact same speed, right?

Oh please, give me the math....