Distances

Dear Flat Earthers,

How did you come to the figures for diameter, circumference, distance to sun/moon, diamter of sun/moon, distance of stars, height of ice wall, etc.?

I would genuinely like to know this.

Dear Flat Earthers,

How did you come to the figures for diameter, circumference, distance to sun/moon, diamter of sun/moon, distance of stars, height of ice wall, etc.?

I would genuinely like to know this.

Oh you're gonna have to wait a LOOOONG time before they can answer all these questions.  

OR...

One of their explanations (as provided by TheEngineer I think) was that gravity does not exist on earth, but that it could hold true for the other bodies in the universe. So in other we live on a planet governed by "unknown" rules while everything else is conveniently characterized by what we already know. Hence the figures for diameter, circumference, distance to sun/moon, diamter of sun/moon, distance of stars, etc, are deducted by FE'ers in the same manner as by RE'ers. The ice wall is a different story... trust me, it deserves a separate thread. You wouldn't believe what they can come up with.

They certainly convinced me! I'm sure you feel the same way. LOL.  :?

One of their explanations (as provided by TheEngineer I think) was that gravity does not exist on earth, but that it could hold true for the other bodies in the universe. So in other we live on a planet governed by "unknown" rules while everything else is conveniently characterized by what we already know.

The FE does not make the assumption that gravity is universal.  We know what rules govern the movement of objects on the earth and even the earth itself, but the exact cause of the earth's movement may still be unknown.

Quote from: "bibicul"

One of their explanations (as provided by TheEngineer I think) was that gravity does not exist on earth, but that it could hold true for the other bodies in the universe. So in other we live on a planet governed by "unknown" rules while everything else is conveniently characterized by what we already know.

The FE does not make the assumption that gravity is universal.  We know what rules govern the movement of objects on the earth and even the earth itself, but the exact cause of the earth's movement may still be unknown.

Exactly, that's another way of restating what I said. "The FE does not make the assumption that gravity is universal". There you have it.

Back to the original topic. How were the measurements in the FAQ deduced? Was there some reasoning involved or were the numbers just plucked out of thin air?

The distance to the moon cannot be correct if the moon's diameter is correct. If the moon was 32 miles wide seen from 3000 miles away it would mean that it would appear the same size as a pee at arm's length.

they used a giant tape measure.


duh.

same size as a pee at arm's length.

Well, you don't want to pee any closer than that, on account of splashback

Are you saying that a pea held at arm's length, according to the FE model, would appear roughly the same size as the moon, if you held the pea up next to the moon?
I can block the moon out with my thumb at an arm's length (I've used that to get an idea of framing for moon photography before), though I've never tried it with a pea.  I would guess a pea might be quite close to the moon's size at arm's length though.

Oh, and as for measurment, how did we come up with the distance from the earth to the moon/sun in RE cosmology?  Math.  They probably popped in some measurments including the apparent width of the moon in the sky, an arbitrary size for it, and then figured the distance.  Something had to be completely arbitrary there, I'm thinking.

One last thing: I've looked through telescopes and even taken photos with my camera of the moon.  When you get a close look, you can clearly see that there's a bunch of land there, not just something giving off light.  It's bright, yeah, but it's enough that the human eye and a camera's exposure settings can take a very decent image of it showing that there are craters and such.  What mechanism is giving off light from the moon?  The sun is fusion, I'm sure everyone can agree to that, but what is the moon's source of light if not the sun?