Does Flying Around the World in 1 Direction Prove the Earth is Round?

Once again, you are missing the point.  People do, in fact, travel east on airplanes, ships, and even automobiles.  If they are not on the equator, then they are making a slight curve if they sustain this heading. 

Once again, you are missing the point.  People do, in fact, travel east on airplanes, ships, and even automobiles.  If they are not on the equator, then they are making a slight curve if they sustain this heading.

You are not understanding, on purpose, what is meant by going east.

I can travel from one point at 30deg north to another at 30 deg north in a straight line.

No, it is you who is not understanding.  If you do not turn, i.e. travel in a straight line, then you make a great circle.  Did you even look up the definition of a great circle?  Or, are you just going to deny what I am saying because I do not share your beliefs?  You seem like a bigot.  You don't care about what I say, I am just wrong because I do not share your beliefs about the shape of the Earth, so everything else I say must be wrong.

Let me say this one last time.  If you do not turn, you are traveling on a great circle.  The only great circle that goes east or west is the equator.  Please stop pretending you are dumb and at least acknowledge that these two sentences are correct. 

No, it is you who is not understanding.  If you do not turn, i.e. travel in a straight line, then you make a great circle.  Did you even look up the definition of a great circle?  Or, are you just going to deny what I am saying because I do not share your beliefs?  You seem like a bigot.  You don't care about what I say, I am just wrong because I do not share your beliefs about the shape of the Earth, so everything else I say must be wrong.

Let me say this one last time.  If you do not turn, you are traveling on a great circle.  The only great circle that goes east or west is the equator.  Please stop pretending you are dumb and at least acknowledge that these two sentences are correct.

Think of the FE earth like a very large parking lot. No matter where you are if you drive in a straight line you will never get to be in the same place you started.

I can drive in a circle around the parking lot.  I can also fly in a circle around a globe.  This proves nothing. 

You must be trolling. There is no way anyone can not understand this and even have the nerve to tell other's they are stupid for saying this. Nobody is that out of it.

You do not need to turn to go in a straight circle around a globe. How in the world do you not understand this? A sphere is a circle not an octagon! Somebody please get through to him.

Take a string and wrap it around any point on the globe and bring it back to the beginning point without turning. Do you see how the string did not curve? Why would you need to turn if the plane is at the same exact altitude? The plane's bottom surface facing the Earth, the top to the sky. If it keeps the same altitude it will go around the world in a perfect straight line around the curve without turning. But even if it didn't have the same altitude, and just kept flying, it would still wrap around the Earth because it is within the Earth's atmosphere and will still obey the law's of physics. Like clouds do. Nobody can possible not understand this. You must be trolling and messing with us.

I can drive in a circle around the parking lot.  I can also fly in a circle around a globe.  This proves nothing.

You do not have to turn on a sphere and you will end up were you started because you will not fly off the Earth due to gravity. Even if you do not believe in gravity, if the plane keeps the same distance to the Earth, it will still not need to steer and it will wrap around a full circle without turning. Just keep the wheel straight and you wrap around. Keep the wheel straight on a parking lot you go off the lot. It is impossible for anyone not to understand this difference. If you continue to debate this, you must be messing around.

Jer9999, if you were at the north pole, and I mean like a few meters away from a pole sticking out of the ground, and you traveled east, would you not be walking in a circle?

I can drive in a circle around the parking lot.  I can also fly in a circle around a globe.  This proves nothing.

The difference is driving in a circle is not driving in a straight line.

Flying in a circle is also not traveling in a straight line.  What is your point?

Jer9999, if you were at the north pole, and I mean like a few meters away from a pole sticking out of the ground, and you traveled east, would you not be walking in a circle?

I think I see where the confusion is. On a sphere if you traveled any direction and kept going you will wrap around. East will only determine in relation to the North magnetic pole. Forget about the magnetic pole for a second and just think one direction. For example, if you go from the US down to Chile you are traveling south. But as you wrap around South Pole and go back up the globe you are then traveling North. If you only care about your compass saying strict East, then you won't be making a full circle if you are at the North Pole. That is not wrapping around the globe. That is like walking in a circle around an area. 

Let's say you are 50 feet below the magnetic pole and your compass reads North. Then you walk to the magnetic pole and past it and keep walking, then you are going South but you didn't change direction.

so the point isn't what the compass says but that if you stay straight you will wrap around, but on a flat Earth you need to turn or you will go off. Pilot's would have clearly realized this many years ago.

Flying in a circle is also not traveling in a straight line.  What is your point?

The point is if you fly in a straight line on the FE just like the parking lot you will not end up at the same place you left. That will only work on a the round earth.

Quote from: jroa on March 13, 2014, 06:19:24 PM

Jer9999, if you were at the north pole, and I mean like a few meters away from a pole sticking out of the ground, and you traveled east, would you not be walking in a circle?

I think I see where the confusion is. On a sphere if you traveled any direction and kept going you will wrap around. East will only determine in relation to the North magnetic pole. Forget about the magnetic pole for a second and just think one direction. For example, if you go from the US down to Chile you are traveling south. But as you wrap around South Pole and go back up the globe you are then traveling North. If you only care about your compass saying strict East, then you won't be making a full circle if you are at the North Pole. That is not wrapping around the globe. That is like walking in a circle around an area. 

Let's say you are 50 feet below the magnetic pole and your compass reads North. Then you walk to the magnetic pole and past it and keep walking, then you are going South but you didn't change direction.

so the point isn't what the compass says but that if you stay straight you will wrap around, but on a flat Earth you need to turn or you will go off. Pilot's would have clearly realized this many years ago.

It does not matter if it is the magnetic or geographic north pole.  If you are a few meters away from this pole, and travel east, would you not be walking in a circle?  Please answer the question. 

Quote from: jroa on March 13, 2014, 06:19:24 PM

Jer9999, if you were at the north pole, and I mean like a few meters away from a pole sticking out of the ground, and you traveled east, would you not be walking in a circle?

I think I see where the confusion is. On a sphere if you traveled any direction and kept going you will wrap around. East will only determine in relation to the North magnetic pole. Forget about the magnetic pole for a second and just think one direction. For example, if you go from the US down to Chile you are traveling south. But as you wrap around South Pole and go back up the globe you are then traveling North. If you only care about your compass saying strict East, then you won't be making a full circle if you are at the North Pole. That is not wrapping around the globe. That is like walking in a circle around an area. 

Let's say you are 50 feet below the magnetic pole and your compass reads North. Then you walk to the magnetic pole and past it and keep walking, then you are going South but you didn't change direction.

so the point isn't what the compass says but that if you stay straight you will wrap around, but on a flat Earth you need to turn or you will go off. Pilot's would have clearly realized this many years ago.

you said it perfectly but he still does not get it.

It does not matter if it is the magnetic or geographic north pole.  If you are a few meters away from this pole, and travel east, would you not be walking in a circle?  Please answer the question.

A few meters from the pole, keep going East, you would probably go in a circle, but it would not be circumnavigating which is the point. East means East of the magnetic pole. So you are talking about dancing around a pole like a tetherball when a ball is on a string going around a metal pole. But that is not wrapping around the Earth. That is just in relation to the North Pole. Like if you keep going South from the magnetic pole you would eventually get to the end of South and have to go North to wrap around.

But a few meters from the pole makes no difference. Any point walking straight you would circumnavigate the globe. If your compass points East, and you keep going East, it depends where you are if you would be walking in a circle where you need to turn or not.

So these are 2 separate issues. One is wrapping around the Earth and the other is how a compass works.

Ok, now we can proceed.  If you are a kilometer from the pole, and you travel east, will you be walking in a circle?

Quote from: jroa on March 13, 2014, 06:41:45 PM

It does not matter if it is the magnetic or geographic north pole.  If you are a few meters away from this pole, and travel east, would you not be walking in a circle?  Please answer the question.

A few meters from the pole, keep going East, you would probably go in a circle, but it would not be circumnavigating which is the point. East means East of the magnetic pole. So you are talking about dancing around a pole like a tetherball when a ball is on a string going around a metal pole. But that is not wrapping around the Earth. That is just in relation to the North Pole. Like if you keep going South from the magnetic pole you would eventually get to the end of South and have to go North to wrap around.

But a few meters from the pole makes no difference. Any point walking straight you would circumnavigate the globe. If your compass points East, and you keep going East, it depends where you are if you would be walking in a circle where you need to turn or not.

So these are 2 separate issues. One is wrapping around the Earth and the other is how a compass works.

This should be of interest. http://duboishistoricalsociety.com/historicalfinchpolecat.htm

Ok, now we can proceed.  If you are a kilometer from the pole, and you travel east, will you be walking in a circle?

Are you trolling? If you are just admit it. Is this all a joke to you? If you are just messing with us then please just admit it now.

I think if you are a km from the pole walking East you would be like a ball around a pole on a string. That is not what we are talking about. That is not wrapping around the Earth but simply walking around the North Pole.

That is like saying if I stand in the middle of a room and you walk around me, are you going in a circle? Uh yeah of course you are.

North Pole is not the top of the Earth. There is no top as we are suspended in space. It is only a relative measurement because there is a magnetic pole that compasses can be used with. It is not inherently a top. If we had a magnetic pole in Egypt we can just as well call Egypt North and re shape our globes.

Quote from: jroa on March 13, 2014, 06:58:16 PM

Ok, now we can proceed.  If you are a kilometer from the pole, and you travel east, will you be walking in a circle?

Are you trolling? If you are just admit it. Is this all a joke to you? If you are just messing with us then please just admit it now.

I think if you are a km from the pole walking East you would be like a ball around a pole on a string. That is not what we are talking about. That is not wrapping around the Earth but simply walking around the North Pole.

That is like saying if I stand in the middle of a room and you walk around me, are you going in a circle? Uh yeah of course you are.

North Pole is not the top of the Earth. There is no top as we are suspended in space. It is only a relative measurement because there is a magnetic pole that compasses can be used with. It is not inherently a top. If we had a magnetic pole in Egypt we can just as well call Egypt North and re shape our globes.

When they get in a debate they can't win or admit you are right, they will change the subject or distract the subject. Admitting you are right will defeat the whole idea of this site.

Magnetic pole or geographic pole, if you are 1 km away and travel east, you would be walking in a circle.  Now, what if you were 10,000 km away from the pole?  20,000 km away?  Yes, you would be walking in a circle if you are going east; however, when you are far away from the pole, the circle is so big that it would seem that you are traveling in a straight line.

Quote from: Jer9999 on March 13, 2014, 07:08:35 PM

Quote from: jroa on March 13, 2014, 06:58:16 PM

Ok, now we can proceed.  If you are a kilometer from the pole, and you travel east, will you be walking in a circle?

Are you trolling? If you are just admit it. Is this all a joke to you? If you are just messing with us then please just admit it now.

I think if you are a km from the pole walking East you would be like a ball around a pole on a string. That is not what we are talking about. That is not wrapping around the Earth but simply walking around the North Pole.

That is like saying if I stand in the middle of a room and you walk around me, are you going in a circle? Uh yeah of course you are.

North Pole is not the top of the Earth. There is no top as we are suspended in space. It is only a relative measurement because there is a magnetic pole that compasses can be used with. It is not inherently a top. If we had a magnetic pole in Egypt we can just as well call Egypt North and re shape our globes.

When they get in a debate they can't win or admit you are right, they will change the subject or distract the subject. Admitting you are right will defeat the whole idea of this site.

But why are they like this and how did they end up like this?

We simply seek the truth. 

JROA-

List for me right now evidence supporting the idea the Earth is Flat. No links. Just simple sentences showing why anyone should even investigate this at all. We have lots of evidence supporting the world is round including photos, but tells us why right here why the Earth may indeed by flat. If you can't do that, then you may as well just believe in anything. Anything other than "This is why the Earth is probably flat...." Then there is no debate. List the reasons clearly and briefly now! If any reason makes any sense or can be credible in any possible way, then I will do my own research further. But I need you tell me why a disk planet is what we live on.

Quote from: Starman on March 13, 2014, 07:14:03 PM

Quote from: Jer9999 on March 13, 2014, 07:08:35 PM

Quote from: jroa on March 13, 2014, 06:58:16 PM

Ok, now we can proceed.  If you are a kilometer from the pole, and you travel east, will you be walking in a circle?

Are you trolling? If you are just admit it. Is this all a joke to you? If you are just messing with us then please just admit it now.

I think if you are a km from the pole walking East you would be like a ball around a pole on a string. That is not what we are talking about. That is not wrapping around the Earth but simply walking around the North Pole.

That is like saying if I stand in the middle of a room and you walk around me, are you going in a circle? Uh yeah of course you are.

North Pole is not the top of the Earth. There is no top as we are suspended in space. It is only a relative measurement because there is a magnetic pole that compasses can be used with. It is not inherently a top. If we had a magnetic pole in Egypt we can just as well call Egypt North and re shape our globes.

When they get in a debate they can't win or admit you are right, they will change the subject or distract the subject. Admitting you are right will defeat the whole idea of this site.

But why are they like this and how did they end up like this?

With all due respect to them they have psychosis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis
That is the reason why I am here. I wanted to figure out why they think like that. I had one admit he had that problem.
They will really get offended if you tell them that but it is catch 22 for them.

Magnetic pole or geographic pole, if you are 1 km away and travel east, you would be walking in a circle.  Now, what if you were 10,000 km away from the pole?  20,000 km away?  Yes, you would be walking in a circle if you are going east; however, when you are far away from the pole, the circle is so big that it would seem that you are traveling in a straight line.

NO! Forget East. Forget compass directions. Start in one point anywhere on a sphere and continue AROUND THE GLOBE not AROUND A TINY AREA until you wrap around, you will end up back where you are without turning. Going straight! Do that on a Flat Earth you go off the edge.

Look out your window.  Looks flat, does it not?

Quote from: jroa on March 13, 2014, 07:16:00 PM

Magnetic pole or geographic pole, if you are 1 km away and travel east, you would be walking in a circle.  Now, what if you were 10,000 km away from the pole?  20,000 km away?  Yes, you would be walking in a circle if you are going east; however, when you are far away from the pole, the circle is so big that it would seem that you are traveling in a straight line.

NO! Forget East. Forget compass directions. Start in one point anywhere on a sphere and continue AROUND THE GLOBE not AROUND A TINY AREA until you wrap around, you will end up back where you are without turning. Going straight! Do that on a Flat Earth you go off the edge.

OK, now please tell me where this happens other than in your head. 

Look out your window.  Looks flat, does it not?

This is your evidence? Are you serious? WOW!!!

I don't think there is a response to that. I am floored!

Quote from: jroa on March 13, 2014, 07:24:41 PM

Look out your window.  Looks flat, does it not?

This is your evidence? Are you serious? WOW!!!

I don't think there is a response to that. I am floored!

He can't answer you so he will play with because he is sensing you are getting upset.

I floored you with one post.  This is a first for me.  I am glad that you are now questioning what you are being spoon fed.  Mission accomplished.