Weight at Poles and weight at Equator

At the equator, you weigh more than you would at the poles. This is because due to the earth's roundness (my perspective, not FE perspective) and it's rotation, and due to centripetal force, the Earth is not a perfect sphere. It is an elongated sphere. It bulges at the equator. The equator is about 22km from the core than the poles are. It is shown that the pull of gravity is stronger at the equator than at the equator. If the Earth were flat and continuously accelerating upwards with a constant function, then why would the poles have lower "gravity" than the equator?

At the equator, you weigh more than you would at the poles. This is because due to the earth's roundness (my perspective, not FE perspective) and it's rotation, and due to centripetal force, the Earth is not a perfect sphere. It is an elongated sphere. It bulges at the equator. The equator is about 22km from the core than the poles are. It is shown that the pull of gravity is stronger at the equator than at the equator. If the Earth were flat and continuously accelerating upwards with a constant function, then why would the poles have lower "gravity" than the equator?

Have you been there and measured this?

Have you been there and measured this?

Hi there WD.

I should warn you in advance that this is usually sceptimatic's standard type of "answer" when he hasn't got the faintest idea of what you're talking about LOL.

It's the answer you have when you don't want an answer... (was that an ad? Or did I make that up?)
 

Aye, and I apologize, I left out two factors in weight at the poles vs. weight at the equator. Centripetal force causes you to weigh less at the equator, and also being farther away from the center of mass. All of these factors lead to a net INCREASE in weight at the poles, not a decrease. The centripetal(which is from the rotation of the earth) can be calculated out to give you a cleaner look. However, you'd still likely weigh more at the pole, regardless of the extra mass, due to the denser core.

Aye, and I apologize, I left out two factors in weight at the poles vs. weight at the equator. Centripetal force causes you to weigh less at the equator, and also being farther away from the center of mass. All of these factors lead to a net INCREASE in weight at the poles, not a decrease. The centripetal(which is from the rotation of the earth) can be calculated out to give you a cleaner look. However, you'd still likely weigh more at the pole, regardless of the extra mass, due to the denser core.

Can you tell me how you measured this, please.

Think of the money to be made by purchasing gold in Tromsø and selling it in Singapore!

"The acceleration of gravity varies from 9.780 m/s2
 at the equator to 9.832
m/s2
 at the poles (a difference of 0.53%)."

http://www.space-electronics.com/Literature/Precise_Measurement_of_Mass.PDF

"Taking into account both of the above effects, the gravitational acceleration is 9.78 m/s2 at the equator and 9.83 m/s2 at the poles, so you weigh about 0.5% more at the poles than at the equator.

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=310

Can you tell me how you measured this, please.

And again.  What did I tell you WD?  Right on cue sceptimatic.  Well done!
 

"The acceleration of gravity varies from 9.780 m/s2
 at the equator to 9.832
m/s2
 at the poles (a difference of 0.53%)."

http://www.space-electronics.com/Literature/Precise_Measurement_of_Mass.PDF

"Taking into account both of the above effects, the gravitational acceleration is 9.78 m/s2 at the equator and 9.83 m/s2 at the poles, so you weigh about 0.5% more at the poles than at the equator.

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=310

Good stuff. sceptimatic will not read it beside he is not smart enough to make any sense to it. You will notice all the evidence will not be enough. You will get things like "prove it", "It's fake". If your get some real poof the flat earth people (FE) will change the subject or disappear. That is their nature. They just don't have a analytical minds.

Quote from: sceptimatic on March 06, 2014, 11:57:58 AM

Can you tell me how you measured this, please.

And again.  What did I tell you WD?  Right on cue sceptimatic.  Well done!

You forgot to add gravity doesn't exist according to him. He doesn't "think this", he "knows this. 100% fact."

"The acceleration of gravity varies from 9.780 m/s2
 at the equator to 9.832
m/s2
 at the poles (a difference of 0.53%)."

http://www.space-electronics.com/Literature/Precise_Measurement_of_Mass.PDF

"Taking into account both of the above effects, the gravitational acceleration is 9.78 m/s2 at the equator and 9.83 m/s2 at the poles, so you weigh about 0.5% more at the poles than at the equator.

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=310

If air pressure differs at the poles as opposed to the equator then you will naturally marginally change in weight if you do not calibrate the scales you are using. It's not you or the item that changes weight, it's the scales giving you the impression of it.

You forgot to add gravity doesn't exist according to him. He doesn't "think this", he "knows this. 100% fact."

At this point sceptimatic will possibly resurrect his "denpressure" theory in order to refute your notions about this alleged "force" you call gravity.

Denpressure holds all the secrets to the inexplicable you see—well at least from sceptimatic's viewpoint it does.

It's a hybrid entity composed partially of something he calls "density", and partially of something he calls "pressure".

It's a sort of pseudo-scientific "cure-all" that he rolls out whenever the questions get too hard to explain from a flat-earth perspective (was that a pun?) and covers all sorts of things like gravity, air pressure, fluid dynamics, gas laws, light propagation and optics, velocity and acceleration, kinetic and potential energy, and why English double-decker buses are always red.
 

Air pressure pushes on you from all sides, including the bottom, which would not increase acceleration. That's why an object won't really sink faster towards the bottom of the ocean rather than the top.

If air pressure differs at the poles as opposed to the equator then you will naturally marginally change in weight if you do not calibrate the scales you are using. It's not you or the item that changes weight, it's the scales giving you the impression of it.

Well, at least I was close LOL.  This'll illustrates my point just as well as sceptimatic's actual "denpressure" will.

You see, the poor guy—although he's a self-styled "genius"—hasn't yet cottoned on to the fact that mass and weight are two totally different things.

But then I guess you can't expect a genius to know every little thing can you?  Like high school science.
 

Air pressure pushes on you from all sides, including the bottom, which would not increase acceleration. That's why an object won't really sink faster towards the bottom of the ocean rather than the top.

Ahhh... no. This idea is wrong according to sceptimatic.  Magically (denpressure maybe?) air pressure only pushes upwards or downwards, but never from the sides.

The weight of the air column above your head is what keeps you "stuck" to the surface of the earth—it's nothing to do with your pseudo-gravity force rubbish.  And anyway, it's not the force of gravity that makes you return to earth when you jump in the air—it's your weight.

Simple when you know ain't it?
 

Air pressure pushes on you from all sides, including the bottom, which would not increase acceleration. That's why an object won't really sink faster towards the bottom of the ocean rather than the top.

Have another go.

http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/GG/ASK/weight.html

You would actually weigh slightly (ever so slightly) less where there is higher atmospheric pressure.

http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/GG/ASK/weight.html

You would actually weigh slightly (ever so slightly) less where there is higher atmospheric pressure.

You're not exactly pushing a strong point here, are you. No disrespect but have a think about what you're saying.

Scepti, once again making no time to understand why people say what they are saying. 56 and still the same. 

You're not exactly pushing a strong point here, are you. No disrespect but have a think about what you're saying.

Can you please provide evidence that states
Can you cite scientific sources that states that acceleration from gravity (or whatever you want to call it) is 0.5% higher at the poles than the equator due to barometric pressure?

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You're not exactly pushing a strong point here, are you. No disrespect but have a think about what you're saying.

Can you please provide evidence that states
Can you cite scientific sources that states that acceleration from gravity (or whatever you want to call it) is 0.5% higher at the poles than the equator due to barometric pressure?

Arguing with this idiot is seriously like taking a bath in hot acid.  He lives in his own fantasy world were the rules are totally different.

You'll never get anywhere other than pure frustration - and in turn that will put you off this site, which can actually be fun, if it wasn't for noobs like skepti.

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You're not exactly pushing a strong point here, are you. No disrespect but have a think about what you're saying.

Can you please provide evidence that states
Can you cite scientific sources that states that acceleration from gravity (or whatever you want to call it) is 0.5% higher at the poles than the equator due to barometric pressure?

Not likely. You may have missed it but in the last few days sceptimatic claims to have carried out an experiment to conclusively prove the earth is flat. This was carried out in secret using custom made lasers he can't share the details of. Since then he says he will only share the results of the experiment with a select few he deems worthy of seeing it. What else..oh yeah he is a North Korean defector. He is a genius. He is a successful inventor living a life of luxury as a result including having a helicopter (he gave this to charity though so don't expect any photos). He is a professional photographer. He has a top secret tv system that uses a regular aerial to decode satellite tv (this is top secret though - he got it from his "contacts"). He is the village idiot. One of these is true I will let you guess which one. Oh and if I missed anything please everyone feel free to let me know.

Village idiot? Hahah, man, you'd think that there would be more "round-earther" trolls here than FE's.

Village idiot? Hahah, man, you'd think that there would be more "round-earther" trolls here than FE's.

There is plenty of off the wall and alternative views around here but scepti is the only one who not only has alternative views but presents himself without a single redeeming quality.

Quote from: WesternDuval on March 06, 2014, 05:12:29 PM

Village idiot? Hahah, man, you'd think that there would be more "round-earther" trolls here than FE's.

There is plenty of off the wall and alternative views around here but scepti is the only one who not only has alternative views but presents himself without a single redeeming quality.

Well said..  There others here, whilst delusional in my opinion,  are quite nice people.

You may have missed it but in the last few days sceptimatic claims to have carried out an experiment to conclusively prove the earth is flat. This was carried out in secret using custom made lasers he can't share the details of. Since then he says he will only share the results of the experiment with a select few he deems worthy of seeing it.

And we're still awaiting (with bated breath no doubt) for even the very basic details of this famous and world-shattering experiment, and a synopsis of its results.

Undoubtedly, we'll be seeing sceptimatic and his esteemed but unnamed scientific friend on the platform receiving next year's Nobel Prize in Geophysics at Stockholm.

Although for some unknown reason, sceptimatic has gone very quiet about it all.  I wonder why?  Maybe he and his friend are correlating more data from further tests, or standardising their results?

Who's to know?
 

Quote from: glokta on March 06, 2014, 05:05:49 PM

You may have missed it but in the last few days sceptimatic claims to have carried out an experiment to conclusively prove the earth is flat. This was carried out in secret using custom made lasers he can't share the details of. Since then he says he will only share the results of the experiment with a select few he deems worthy of seeing it.

And we're still awaiting (with bated breath no doubt) for even the very basic details of this famous and world-shattering experiment, and a synopsis of its results.

Undoubtedly, we'll be seeing sceptimatic and his esteemed but unnamed scientific friend on the platform receiving next year's Nobel Prize in Geophysics at Stockholm.

Although for some unknown reason, sceptimatic has gone very quiet about it all.  I wonder why?  Maybe he and his friend are correlating more data from further tests, or standardising their results?

Who's to know?

He forgot to use the obvious get out clause - being a North Korean defector he can't go public with the results

It's too bad Scept was the only one with an "answer", or better yet, a response.

It's too bad Scept was the only one with an "answer", or better yet, a response.

Hard to deny that fact I guess?
 


His first answer to your question:

Have you been there and measured this?

His second answer:

Can you tell me how you measured this, please.

Can't really say that sceptimatic avoids answering questions in great detail can you?  He must have done a course in "Rhetorical Responses 101" at some stage in his illustrious scientific career?