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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #60 on: March 06, 2014, 07:58:10 AM »
Quote from: jroa on March 06, 2014, 07:51:38 AM
Quote from: glokta on March 06, 2014, 07:29:00 AM
You went quiet after trying to call me out with your LORAN claim. And what deflection are you going to use next?

What?  I did not show you articles and pictures?  Are you just ignoring evidence, or are you actually ignoring everything in your mind and convincing yourself that the evidence is not true?
Loran was used many years ago for mostly navigation for ships. Some Aircraft did use it also. Decca was used for shorted range. I worked at Decca station for 4 years. Those navigation system are all gone now.
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #61 on: March 06, 2014, 07:59:02 AM »
Quote from: jroa on March 06, 2014, 07:53:45 AM
Quote from: Starman on March 06, 2014, 07:39:16 AM
Don't say compass. It goes nuts at the poles. Ground transmitter could not possibly be built to do that.

Why do you think airlines do not fly over the poles?
They do. Do you want me to show you the routes? Ok, Here is is:
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #62 on: March 06, 2014, 08:00:03 AM »
Quote from: BJ1234 on March 06, 2014, 07:56:22 AM
So are you saying your phone uses an altimeter or radar to determine your location?

I am saying that my phone knows my location without GPS, which goes against RE claims that it could only know that if satellites exist. 
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #63 on: March 06, 2014, 08:01:59 AM »
Quote from: Starman on March 06, 2014, 07:58:10 AM
Loran was used many years ago for mostly navigation for ships. Some Aircraft did use it also. Decca was used for shorted range. I worked at Decca station for 4 years. Those navigation system are all gone now.

Yes, that is old technology.  We could do it 50 years ago, buy you claim that we can not do it now, nor can we have improved it in these days. 
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #64 on: March 06, 2014, 08:03:20 AM »
Quote from: jroa on March 06, 2014, 08:00:03 AM
Quote from: BJ1234 on March 06, 2014, 07:56:22 AM
So are you saying your phone uses an altimeter or radar to determine your location?

I am saying that my phone knows my location without GPS, which goes against RE claims that it could only know that if satellites exist.
The phone does not know where your are. Show us a picture of that.
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #65 on: March 06, 2014, 08:04:33 AM »
Quote from: jroa on March 06, 2014, 07:51:38 AM
Quote from: glokta on March 06, 2014, 07:29:00 AM
You went quiet after trying to call me out with your LORAN claim. And what deflection are you going to use next?

What?  I did not show you articles and pictures?   
Correct. Please show the articles that show how land based transmitters can provide worldwide 3 dimensional positioning in place of gps satellites.
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #66 on: March 06, 2014, 08:05:11 AM »
Quote from: Starman on March 06, 2014, 08:03:20 AM
The phone does not know where your are. Show us a picture of that.

I would take a screen shot, but I really don't care for all of you to know where I live or work.
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #67 on: March 06, 2014, 08:06:14 AM »
Quote from: jroa on March 06, 2014, 07:52:28 AM
Quote from: glokta on March 06, 2014, 07:35:09 AM
And once again I would like to mention the fact you came here as a round earther and have since been converted. Looking at your early posts you opened up your stay here arguing in favour of satellites, so you should have all the evidence at your disposal to indicate your change of views. Or were you simply indoctrinated? A great mind such as yours is surely not so easily swayed that your only argument now is - satellites do not exist, those that think they do are brainwashed fools, and those that make them are "mistaken".

People can not change their minds when presented with overwhelming evidence?
Of course they can. They can then usually present that overwhelming evidence.
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #68 on: March 06, 2014, 08:07:37 AM »
Quote from: jroa on March 06, 2014, 08:05:11 AM
Quote from: Starman on March 06, 2014, 08:03:20 AM
The phone does not know where your are. Show us a picture of that.

I would take a screen shot, but I really don't care for all of you to know where I live or work.
Fair enough! What is your phone name and type. I will look up the specifications.
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #69 on: March 06, 2014, 08:08:04 AM »
Quote from: glokta on March 06, 2014, 08:04:33 AM
Correct. Please show the articles that show how land based transmitters can provide worldwide 3 dimensional positioning in place of gps satellites.

So, now, I am supposed to post top secret information in order to satisfy your curiosity?  What makes you think that I even have this information, let alone risk going to jail for posting it? 
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #70 on: March 06, 2014, 08:10:09 AM »
Quote from: Starman on March 06, 2014, 08:07:37 AM
Quote from: jroa on March 06, 2014, 08:05:11 AM
Quote from: Starman on March 06, 2014, 08:03:20 AM
The phone does not know where your are. Show us a picture of that.

I would take a screen shot, but I really don't care for all of you to know where I live or work.
Fair enough! What is your phone name and type. I will look up the specifications.

Do you want my phone number too?
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #71 on: March 06, 2014, 08:10:32 AM »
Quote from: jroa on March 06, 2014, 07:53:45 AM
Quote from: Starman on March 06, 2014, 07:39:16 AM
Don't say compass. It goes nuts at the poles. Ground transmitter could not possibly be built to do that.

Why do you think airlines do not fly over the poles?
They have done, but why would they need to do it regularly? I have driven to Scotland once. I've not done it since because I don't need to. Are you claiming cars can't drive to Scotland? I could get used to your style of argument.
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #72 on: March 06, 2014, 08:13:15 AM »
Quote from: glokta on March 06, 2014, 08:10:32 AM
They have done, but why would they need to do it regularly?

Because it is a short cut? ???
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #73 on: March 06, 2014, 08:19:03 AM »
Quote from: jroa on March 06, 2014, 08:08:04 AM
Quote from: glokta on March 06, 2014, 08:04:33 AM
Correct. Please show the articles that show how land based transmitters can provide worldwide 3 dimensional positioning in place of gps satellites.

So, now, I am supposed to post top secret information in order to satisfy your curiosity?  What makes you think that I even have this information, let alone risk going to jail for posting it?
So the evidence you have that converted you from a satellite believer is top secret? Seriously? You are worse than sceptimatic...
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #74 on: March 06, 2014, 08:22:42 AM »
If you knew evidence that went against what the government told you, would you post it on a public forum? 
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #75 on: March 06, 2014, 08:23:19 AM »
Quote from: jroa on March 06, 2014, 08:00:03 AM
Quote from: BJ1234 on March 06, 2014, 07:56:22 AM
So are you saying your phone uses an altimeter or radar to determine your location?

I am saying that my phone knows my location without GPS, which goes against RE claims that it could only know that if satellites exist.
Once again you are twisting the argument. Everyone knows a cell phone can give rough location from triangulation. However 3 dimensional pin pointing anywhere on the face of the earth is only possible with satellites. Using one technology that can perform some semblance of another does not not dispell the existance of either.
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #76 on: March 06, 2014, 08:27:11 AM »
No, but lots of you RE'ers love to try to prove that satellites exist because of this radio signal or that one.

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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #77 on: March 06, 2014, 08:29:57 AM »
Quote from: glokta on March 06, 2014, 08:19:03 AM
Quote from: jroa on March 06, 2014, 08:08:04 AM
Quote from: glokta on March 06, 2014, 08:04:33 AM
Correct. Please show the articles that show how land based transmitters can provide worldwide 3 dimensional positioning in place of gps satellites.

So, now, I am supposed to post top secret information in order to satisfy your curiosity?  What makes you think that I even have this information, let alone risk going to jail for posting it?
So the evidence you have that converted you from a satellite believer is top secret? Seriously? You are worse than sceptimatic...
What's more you claim to have already posted these articles. Now you claim you can't for fear of arrest. Care to explain that one?  ;D
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #78 on: March 06, 2014, 08:33:13 AM »
Quote from: jroa on March 06, 2014, 08:10:09 AM
Quote from: Starman on March 06, 2014, 08:07:37 AM
Quote from: jroa on March 06, 2014, 08:05:11 AM
Quote from: Starman on March 06, 2014, 08:03:20 AM
The phone does not know where your are. Show us a picture of that.

I would take a screen shot, but I really don't care for all of you to know where I live or work.
Fair enough! What is your phone name and type. I will look up the specifications.

Do you want my phone number too?
No. There are thousands of people that have phones like yours. There is no secret anything about it. It is a iPhone, Samsung or other model? It is not a complicated thing I am asking. I will tell you the specification if you have GPS on it or not. You make claims then you back down.
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #79 on: March 06, 2014, 08:39:00 AM »
Can you watch live TV on a phone?
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #80 on: March 06, 2014, 08:48:36 AM »
Quote from: sceptimatic on March 06, 2014, 08:39:00 AM
Can you watch live TV on a phone?
Why do you ask?  Yes, with a 3G or 4G data connection through the mobile network.

Looking forward to hearing more about your TV box.
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #81 on: March 06, 2014, 08:52:24 AM »
Quote from: jroa on March 06, 2014, 07:53:45 AM
Quote from: Starman on March 06, 2014, 07:39:16 AM
Don't say compass. It goes nuts at the poles. Ground transmitter could not possibly be built to do that.

Why do you think airlines do not fly over the poles?

Because of a lack of suitable emergency landing sites.
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #82 on: March 06, 2014, 08:55:07 AM »
Quote from: inquisitive on March 06, 2014, 08:48:36 AM
Quote from: sceptimatic on March 06, 2014, 08:39:00 AM
Can you watch live TV on a phone?
Why do you ask?  Yes, with a 3G or 4G data connection through the mobile network.

Looking forward to hearing more about your TV box.
What type of dish do I need to attach to my phone to watch your satellite TV on it?
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #83 on: March 06, 2014, 09:01:22 AM »
Quote from: jroa on March 06, 2014, 08:00:03 AM
Quote from: BJ1234 on March 06, 2014, 07:56:22 AM
So are you saying your phone uses an altimeter or radar to determine your location?

I am saying that my phone knows my location without GPS, which goes against RE claims that it could only know that if satellites exist.
To repeat - that is untrue.  GPS receivers only use GPS satellites.  My tablet does not receive from the phone network, it only has GPS.  It is 'seeing' 17 satellites.
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #84 on: March 06, 2014, 09:02:48 AM »
Quote from: sceptimatic on March 06, 2014, 08:55:07 AM
Quote from: inquisitive on March 06, 2014, 08:48:36 AM
Quote from: sceptimatic on March 06, 2014, 08:39:00 AM
Can you watch live TV on a phone?
Why do you ask?  Yes, with a 3G or 4G data connection through the mobile network.

Looking forward to hearing more about your TV box.
What type of dish do I need to attach to my phone to watch your satellite TV on it?
Watch my satellite TV, what are you talking about?

Through the mobile network - do you understand?
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #85 on: March 06, 2014, 09:20:06 AM »
Wow, another groundhog day, where jroa takes round in circles until we all get bored and go home.

My dedicated GPS unit works anywhere, from remote Scottish mountains to the middle of the ocean.

I've used it quite a few times on flights when I've been over the atlantic ocean at 30,000ft - it accurately tells me my location and altitude.  It does not have a barometric sensor (which obviously wouldn't work in pressurized cabin anyway).

It would be impossible for a ground based system to do this.  My challenge is: prove me wrong.
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #86 on: March 06, 2014, 09:20:47 AM »
Quote from: inquisitive on March 06, 2014, 09:02:48 AM
Quote from: sceptimatic on March 06, 2014, 08:55:07 AM
Quote from: inquisitive on March 06, 2014, 08:48:36 AM
Quote from: sceptimatic on March 06, 2014, 08:39:00 AM
Can you watch live TV on a phone?
Why do you ask?  Yes, with a 3G or 4G data connection through the mobile network.

Looking forward to hearing more about your TV box.
What type of dish do I need to attach to my phone to watch your satellite TV on it?
Watch my satellite TV, what are you talking about?

Through the mobile network - do you understand?
So I can watch satellite TV through my phone with no dish attached and also whilst in motion? Is this what you're saying. I mean you're the expert aren't you?
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #87 on: March 06, 2014, 09:22:23 AM »
Quote from: sceptimatic on March 06, 2014, 09:20:47 AM
So I can watch satellite TV through my phone with no dish attached and also whilst in motion?
it's not satellite TV -  it's the internet.
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #88 on: March 06, 2014, 09:29:37 AM »
Quote from: sceptimatic on March 06, 2014, 09:20:47 AM
Quote from: inquisitive on March 06, 2014, 09:02:48 AM
Quote from: sceptimatic on March 06, 2014, 08:55:07 AM
Quote from: inquisitive on March 06, 2014, 08:48:36 AM
Quote from: sceptimatic on March 06, 2014, 08:39:00 AM
Can you watch live TV on a phone?
Why do you ask?  Yes, with a 3G or 4G data connection through the mobile network.

Looking forward to hearing more about your TV box.
What type of dish do I need to attach to my phone to watch your satellite TV on it?
Watch my satellite TV, what are you talking about?

Through the mobile network - do you understand?
So I can watch satellite TV through my phone with no dish attached and also whilst in motion? Is this what you're saying. I mean you're the expert aren't you?
You said live TV, nothing about channels broadcast via satellite.
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Re: How did Columbia get so high before is broke up?
« Reply #89 on: March 06, 2014, 09:32:47 AM »
Quote from: glokta on March 06, 2014, 08:29:57 AM
Quote from: glokta on March 06, 2014, 08:19:03 AM
Quote from: jroa on March 06, 2014, 08:08:04 AM
Quote from: glokta on March 06, 2014, 08:04:33 AM
Correct. Please show the articles that show how land based transmitters can provide worldwide 3 dimensional positioning in place of gps satellites.

So, now, I am supposed to post top secret information in order to satisfy your curiosity?  What makes you think that I even have this information, let alone risk going to jail for posting it?
So the evidence you have that converted you from a satellite believer is top secret? Seriously? You are worse than sceptimatic...
What's more you claim to have already posted these articles. Now you claim you can't for fear of arrest. Care to explain that one?  ;D
No comment yet on this jroa? Or are you just ignoring it hoping no one will notice you tripped yourself up and were caught lying? :)
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