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government benifits from a flat earth

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physicsnerd

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« on: November 01, 2006, 06:33:05 PM »
ive read many times that the government is hiding this.  here is the problem wit hthis: many governments would BENIFIT from a flat earth.

right now america is being run by the christian right.  with the issues of evolution and the big bang being battled over, the christians would love to make science seem less credible.  a flat earth would make scientists look like idiots an would help the right achieve their goals.

The middle east tries hard to keep their citezens from knowing science.  If science was proven to be wrong for the past couple hundred years, the fundamentalists would rush at the opportunity to tell its people.  This way they would have more faith in the quran (however its spelled) and the religious govt.

since governments thrive by faith in their people and doubt in other institutions....why would they bother covering up something so benificial?
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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2006, 07:04:24 PM »
Christians believe that the earth is round.
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physicsnerd

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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2006, 07:10:29 PM »
i think most do.  but my point is that a flat earth would really harm science's reputation.  therefore, a government that is trying to escape science and move towards a more religious path would welcome the opportunity.
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fathomak

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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2006, 08:18:04 PM »
I don't think even the Christian right is trying to discredit science.    There are probably tens of thousands of research projects going on that the right-wing is more than happy to have.  Really, the biggest issues are only with things like abortion and stem-cell research where morality comes into question.

I don't see any real reason for the government to want a flat earth.  Mind you I also don't see any reason for them to persist on a round one if the earth is indeed flat, but then who does?  Anyhow, there are a lot of countries in the world besides America and those in the middle east, so it isn't just the Christian right and Muslim extremists we have to consider.
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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2006, 08:19:54 PM »
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Really, the biggest issues are only with things like abortion and stem-cell research where morality comes into question.


Evolution?
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2006, 08:20:26 PM »
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I don't see any real reason for the government to want a flat earth.

Who wants a flat earth?  We play the hand we are dealt.
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physicsnerd

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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2006, 08:21:50 PM »
i know there are more religions...im just using the two that seem to be the biggest right now.   considering a lot of schools are trying to ban the teaching of evolution, yes religion is trying to discredit science and if there was proof that the earth was flat this would be done very easily.
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fathomak

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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2006, 08:40:37 PM »
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Who wants a flat earth? We play the hand we are dealt.


http://www.qdivision.com/francine/francine40/bin/fisheye.jpg

Flat earth disproved.
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2006, 08:51:47 PM »
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right now america is being run by the christian right.  with the issues of evolution and the big bang being battled over, the christians would love to make science seem less credible.  a flat earth would make scientists look like idiots an would help the right achieve their goals.

Firstly, while I don't get offended on the case of my religion easily, you've gone and done it. I'm an atheist, and I live in America. We are not "being run by the Christians," simply because the President is a Christian himself (although it may appear to be more and more sloping that way, but that's just because Bush is an ass and people are ignorant). We are not, however, a "Christian country," and I doubt discredibility would benefit them that much, especially if the conspiracy is granting them more power.

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The middle east tries hard to keep their citezens from knowing science.  If science was proven to be wrong for the past couple hundred years, the fundamentalists would rush at the opportunity to tell its people.  This way they would have more faith in the quran (however its spelled) and the religious govt.

This is theoretically possible, but again, the net gain would probably be hardly worth it. Especially considering if only one country released the truth, the rest of the governments in on the conspiracy would most likely declare war immediately on them.

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since governments thrive by faith in their people and doubt in other institutions....why would they bother covering up something so benificial?

Because they're obviously hiding something even bigger than you can imagine at the moment. It's not just about faith, it's about something huge and international.


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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2006, 08:54:58 PM »
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I'm an atheist, and I live in America. We are not "being run by the Christians,"


I'm an atheist, and yes, we are.
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physicsnerd

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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2006, 08:55:37 PM »
america might technically be secular but there is an undeniable conservative christian movement.   and they would gain.  clearly they are trying to pass laws related to faith, such as no gay marriage, no teaching evolution, no stem cells etc.  if they are important enough for our tax dollars to pay people to consider passing them, then they are important enough for the govt to care.


more importantly, just what would the govt gain by hiding a flat earth from us?
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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2006, 09:44:53 PM »
2 people who posted in this thread work for the cia

let's play spot the fed
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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2006, 09:49:09 PM »
Apparently nearly half the membership of the US Communist Party was undercover FBI agents during the McCarthy era. I bet Dogplatter's CIA ;)
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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2006, 11:54:55 PM »
dys is just trying to get us off his tail by pointing the finger!!! hes one!
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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2006, 02:17:38 PM »
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Especially considering if only one country released the truth, the rest of the governments in on the conspiracy would most likely declare war immediately on them.


So if France declared earth to be flat, and every existing country on earth suddently declares war on them, that would help to disprove the fact?

Not very logical.
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« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2006, 02:23:58 PM »
I also disagree with that statement, but it would put a huge stigma upon that country.  Noone would want to trade with them, both because they would be in the process of being punished by other countries through embargo type things, and because the populus of other countries would know that  said country is "criminally stupid."
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gogeta2478

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« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2006, 10:18:17 PM »
How does the goernment benefit from a flat earth?
this is the one question that FErs cant answer yet it is the thesis question. Having no answer to this questions proves that the idea of a flat earth and the conspiracy was derived through a what if notion. This has no credibility.
"what if" doesn't count.
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s the earth really flat?
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, maybe go fcuk yourself.
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phaseshifter

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« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2006, 11:39:35 PM »
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I also disagree with that statement, but it would put a huge stigma upon that country.  Noone would want to trade with them, both because they would be in the process of being punished by other countries through embargo type things, and because the populus of other countries would know that  said country is "criminally stupid."


I really don't see why you would put an embargo on a country because they said something dumb. When you deal with people, you don't care if they're stupid as long as they give you their money. Some countries import over 50% of the products they use. You're saying they'd cripple themselves just for that?
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CrimsonKing

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« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2006, 02:42:26 PM »
Governments get a vast amount of money in the idea that the Earth is round, think of all the space programs of the world.  All these get INSANE amounts of funding, to go to the moon, and develop this and that and the other thing.  now if the Earth is actually flat, then that is not possible, hence, trillions of dollers are going to the government.  There are other motives, but you can use the search function to find those if you dont believe me.

You put an embargo on a country to punish them, they broke the worldwide gov'tal conspiracy, they will be punished by sanctions upon the country.  If they were to say that, you could make the point that they were spreading ignorance among their people, and given the amount of international policing that goes on today, something would probably come of that too.
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