To people trying to disprove FE theory

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conraddius

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To people trying to disprove FE theory
« on: January 03, 2014, 10:12:49 PM »
I am totally new to this site as of today; however, after reading a good portion of the recent messages posted, I would conclude that the supporters of the FE theory are not stupid.

I think they are simply trying to express the fact that we, as intelligent people, must challenge and question things that we are told. They are stimulating logical argument, which is a good skill to develop.

In today's society, there are countless lies, scams, and false information being presented to the public by various sources for various reasons. Most people are easily fooled and buy into them.

Personally; after viewing dozens of videos and photos taken from "outer space" showing a round Earth, I find it very unlikely that the Earth is flat and all of the images presented to us from alleged "spacecrafts" are fake and/or part of some sort of conspiracy.

 I must add though, it is impossible to be sure unless you have seen it for yourself, and even then, one could argue that your mind is playing tricks on you or your perception of light is distorted, etc...

 I encourage you all to continue to logically challenge information that is presented to us. Especially when that information is coming from an unreliable source such as NASA or a nation's government.

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Moosedrool

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Re: To people trying to disprove FE theory
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2014, 01:48:21 AM »
I encourage you all to continue to logically challenge information that is presented to us. Especially when that information is coming from an unreliable source such as Flat Earth society or any of it's members.

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I'm not trying to disprove gravity. I've succeeded in disproving it. It's called denpressure.

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sceptimatic

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Re: To people trying to disprove FE theory
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2014, 03:16:32 AM »
I encourage you all to continue to logically challenge information that is presented to us. Especially when that information is coming from an unreliable source such as Flat Earth society or any of it's members.

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You have no intention of thinking. You're not here for that. You are here to attempt ridicule. The only questions are. Are you here to make yourself feel good or are you paid to do it.

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Moosedrool

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Re: To people trying to disprove FE theory
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2014, 04:59:37 AM »
I encourage you all to continue to logically challenge information that is presented to us. Especially when that information is coming from an unreliable source such as Flat Earth society or any of it's members.

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You have no intention of thinking. You're not here for that. You are here to attempt ridicule. The only questions are. Are you here to make yourself feel good or are you paid to do it.

If you, with your tiny deluded mind, can even comprehend the controversial string field theory I accept in physics you'll understand that I'm all for controversy. Theories of everything literally requires redesigning physics from the ground up as there still is one flaw in everything mathematically and physically: It is in existence…

Should I go ahead and just accept the so called "science" behind you're hypothesis without questioning it? Similar to saying we shouldn't agree with any of the evidence pointed out by governmental agencies, why should we treat treat Flat earthers any different?

Given the hypothesis's logic, none of the believers on this site has proven anything exept that they use falsifiable pseudoscience to support there claims with limited answers on the situations pointed out. These situations are the reason for questioning the world around you in the first place. It all boils down to on simple sentence. If you make a claim you need to prove it! Disbelieving the evidence supplied by physicist isn't proving your claim!

The debates sucks members such as myself into the site due to the lack of scientific reasoning. I pointed out on another site that it is like trying to avoid watching a nuclear bomb going off. Every single member have there own controversial beliefs not even supporting each other while none has the capability of using any physical tests to back it up.

So NO! it's not for the lols.

In the conversations none of the questions proposed get's valuable answers and the members here, including yourself immediately defend your beliefs with ad hominem attacks on the question askers. Somehow this attempts to turn the burden to us! WTF?

With that logic I could start a organisation that states what you dream is the real world and while you're awake, you are actually dreaming.

You made a statement on another thread that mainstream science always wins. That is completely incorrect, any theory/hypothesis has the ability to be falsified. Any theory

An example of this is a statement I heard last year coming straight from the Royal swedish academy of sciences. They said that that Nobel prize this year will not go to a scientist who discovers a new particle in quantum physics. The reason for this is the standard model is becoming a massively complex system that takes years of study to completely understand and they are just adding more complexity to it by discovering more and more particles. They need a higher solution to this problem.

So yeah, scepti. Once I see any form of value in your posts, I'll listen. But don't for one second think I wouldn't question a radical claim.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2014, 05:41:11 AM by Moosedrool »
I'm not trying to disprove gravity. I've succeeded in disproving it. It's called denpressure.

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ausGeoff

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Re: To people trying to disprove FE theory
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2014, 07:08:30 AM »

I encourage you all to continue to logically challenge information that is presented to us. Especially when that information is coming from an unreliable source such as NASA or a nation's government.


Can you give up some examples of viable evidence (with links) to support your allegations that NASA and the government are "unreliable" sources?

Can you also give us some examples of sources that you consider to be totally reliable?

—Thanks.

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conraddius

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Re: To people trying to disprove FE theory
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2014, 11:18:58 AM »

I encourage you all to continue to logically challenge information that is presented to us. Especially when that information is coming from an unreliable source such as NASA or a nation's government.


Can you give up some examples of viable evidence (with links) to support your allegations that NASA and the government are "unreliable" sources?

Can you also give us some examples of sources that you consider to be totally reliable?

—Thanks.

I live in the USA where our government is like a 3 ring circus full of lying politicians trying to gain the popular vote by telling us whatever we want to hear. I could probably fill 10 pages of this forum with links to sources that expose our government's lies and propaganda but I won't do that. A simple google search will return thousands of documents about governments lying and that would start a new thread.

As far as NASA telling us lies...

" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> - flat earth support

#" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">PLANET X , NIBIRU, NASA'S LIES, UNCOVERED! - NASA planet nibiru lies

#" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">NASA's Apollo TV Lies Revealed - PART 1 - The Truth Behind The Tones - NASA Apollo missions lies

www.liveleak.com/view?i=ba3_1335214182

- NASA UFO lies

Could go on forever.

As far as reliable sources, I don't have a long list to give you. I would probably only list my own consciousness.
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Sculelos

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Re: To people trying to disprove FE theory
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2014, 11:45:12 AM »
Amazing Videos Conraddius... I've seen Super Earth images before and they are pretty well known now and I also knew the Curve was Camera distortion and sometimes light bending but I never knew that about the NASA video editing system.

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conraddius

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Re: To people trying to disprove FE theory
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2014, 01:08:07 PM »
Thanks man. Even if you guys don't take the time to watch the videos above, make sure you watch this. Then tell me NASA doesn't lie.

BTW.... Sorry to ruin it for you but uhhh.... Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy are also not real.

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Moosedrool

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Re: To people trying to disprove FE theory
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2014, 03:02:14 PM »
Thanks man. Even if you guys don't take the time to watch the videos above, make sure you watch this. Then tell me NASA doesn't lie.

BTW.... Sorry to ruin it for you but uhhh.... Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy are also not real.

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So video of a guy that wen't nuts, probably got fired from NASA and got stuck on the signature Apollo picture of the earth is evidence of a flat earth?

He also sounds like a real professional to boot. /sarcasm

That apollo picture, just like many picture's online got doctored by the community. Over and over again.

What about the voyager photo's? Similarly, I can't find any approved NASA photo's that has the voyager in the shot. Only community concepts and edits...
I'm not trying to disprove gravity. I've succeeded in disproving it. It's called denpressure.

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Sculelos

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Re: To people trying to disprove FE theory
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2014, 04:30:19 PM »
Interesting Stuff. I watched that Guys Video you posted and I found his Inverted Antarctica to be very interesting. Lines up with the rest of my maps.

I could never properly show the World on a 2D Map but this is about as close as I can get. The Bottom one is closest to how I envision Super Earth to look.




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ausGeoff

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Re: To people trying to disprove FE theory
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2014, 10:31:10 AM »

I live in the USA where our government is like a 3 ring circus full of lying politicians trying to gain the popular vote by telling us whatever we want to hear.


I hear you!  Our federal government here in Australia isn't noted for its honesty either.

And thanks for the video links.  I watched them, but they were very unconvincing to me.

The first one ignores any inconsistencies with the focal length of each of the cameras' lenses.  The external camera is a super-wide angle (maybe 8-10mm?) and the internal camera is only a moderate wide angle (maybe 18-24mm?).  And the purported "upside down" image is exactly what I'd expect from a freely-rotating camera; no surprise there.  It definitely doesn't show a concave earth LOL.

The second video about planet "X" or "Nibiru" is a long-debunked fairy story that the conspiracy theorists wheel out at every opportunity.  The Nibiru idea was first put forward in 1995 by Nancy Lieder, founder of the website ZetaTalk.

Lieder describes herself as a contactee with the ability to receive messages from extra-terrestrials from the Zeta Reticuli star system through an implant in her brain. She states that she was chosen to warn mankind that the object would sweep through the inner Solar System in May 2003 (though that date had later to be abandoned LOL) causing the earth to undergo a pole shift that would destroy most of humanity.  I kid you not.

The third video about the allegedly bogus Quindar tones is simply wrong on all counts.  Two common misconceptions surround these tones. The first is that one tone comes from Earth and the other from the transmitters used by the astronauts while in space.  Nope.  All were initiated by the CapCom at mission control.  Another misconception about Quindar tones is that they were designed to signal the end of a transmission, which is also incorrect, as the astronauts keyed their transmissions locally inside the spacecraft using either a PTT or VOX, and which the CapCom had no control over.

Additionally, separate radio frequencies allowed both the CapCom and the astronauts to talk simultaneously if they wished, and thereby made a courtesy tone as a way to minimize the possibility of both of them speaking at the same time unnecessary.