What about the observable heavenly bodies?

When we look into the sky at night we see a backdrop of glimmering jewels. A few of these specks in the sky might be planets like Venus, Mars or Jupiter. Some of them are stars who's home is the Milky Way. Even more are galaxies, who's light has traveled millions of years to reach us.

When we look at these things through telescopes we can, obviously, make out their shapes. Why is it that planets, other than earth, are spherical? Why, too, are stars spherical? Our moon is also quite round. These observations are based on evidence. I've seen through a telescope many times. So why should earth be flat when the other 7 planets in our solar system are spherical?

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My next point: Satellites. Satellites have been growing in numbers since Sputnik. There's TONS of stuff up there. If you live in a particularly dark area(no light pollution) like I do, you can actually see satellites make their way across the night sky. On top of that if the International Space Station is passing over your area, you can track it's location and watch it glisten from horizon to horizon(at night of course).

So what could possibly be keeping these satellites in orbit if earth is flat? It makes much more sense that the earth is spherical and the satellites are in orbit, or perpetually falling around the earth.


EDIT: This is my first post, I hope someone replies. Take a look at this photo of Saturn from NASA. Particularly, I want you to look at how the rings' shadow meets Saturn. This photo was taken by Cassini, but you can see the same thing with a nice telescope and minimal light pollution.

Hi, welcome to the Flat Earth Society, I moved your post to Q&A. Also, I know you have many questions but you'll find that you get more productive answers by asking one at a time. Regardless, I'll answer one. You observe spheres through a telescope because you are looking at stars and planets; earth is neither. You may as well look at the ocean and wondering why it's not dry like the desert. It's because the ocean is no more a desert than the earth is a planet.

So why should earth be flat when the other 7 planets in our solar system are spherical?

because no one lives in the planets!
The moon, the sun, the stars...
were all created so as to serve us!!!

"... who has made the earth AS FLAT and comfortable as a bed and placed upon it mountains standing firm... (79:80)
"He created the heavens without pillars that you see and has cast into the earth firmly set mountains, lest it should shift with you, and dispersed therein from every creature. And We sent down rain from the sky and made grow therein [plants] of every noble kind (31:10) The Holy Quran.

You observe spheres through a telescope because you are looking at stars and planets; earth is neither. You may as well look at the ocean and wondering why it's not dry like the desert. It's because the ocean is no more a desert than the earth is a planet.

If earth is not a planet, then can you describe exactly what it is?  Wiki describes a "planet" as an astronomical object orbiting a star or stellar remnant that is massive enough to be rounded by its own gravity, is not massive enough to cause thermonuclear fusion, and has cleared its neighbouring region of planetesimals (small bodies of accreted gas and dust).

I also think for the sake of this discussion, we need at least to agree on commonly accepted terminology, otherwise we ain't gonna have the faintest idea about what each of us is saying.  Wouldn't you agree?

I'm fine with calling earth a planet for simplicity. However, so very often round-earthers will take it as a sign of "accepting the truth" or "proof that I'm lying" because by definition earth cannot be rounded by its own gravity, circle the sun, or behave in any way like the other planets we observe. 

on top of what was clarified by Pongo,
the Earth has a moon, could you show me any other moon in space?
I mean a real one

Quote from: Pongo on January 02, 2014, 07:06:23 PM

You observe spheres through a telescope because you are looking at stars and planets; earth is neither. You may as well look at the ocean and wondering why it's not dry like the desert. It's because the ocean is no more a desert than the earth is a planet.

If earth is not a planet, then can you describe exactly what it is?

sorry I didn't answer you:
it's a wide expanse, flat and stable, it is as large as the sky!
 the sun, the moon, the stars and the planets turn around it.

Hi, welcome to the Flat Earth Society, I moved your post to Q&A. Also, I know you have many questions but you'll find that you get more productive answers by asking one at a time. Regardless, I'll answer one. You observe spheres through a telescope because you are looking at stars and planets; earth is neither. You may as well look at the ocean and wondering why it's not dry like the desert. It's because the ocean is no more a desert than the earth is a planet.

Thanks Pongo.

on top of what was clarified by Pongo,
the Earth has a moon, could you show me any other moon in space?
I mean a real one

If you're serious and you don't believe the photographic evidence already available, you can purchase your own telescope and wait for Jupiter to come into view. With your telescope(depending on the quality) you would see Jupiter's moons. You can also see the moons' shadows cast on Jupiter. If you're serious.

Quote from: CinderWild on January 02, 2014, 04:01:41 PM

So why should earth be flat when the other 7 planets in our solar system are spherical?

Quote from: mohamed on January 03, 2014, 01:34:51 PM

Quote from: CinderWild on January 02, 2014, 04:01:41 PM

So why should earth be flat when the other 7 planets in our solar system are spherical?

because no one lives in the planets!
The moon, the sun, the stars...
were all created so as to serve us!!!

"... who has made the earth AS FLAT and comfortable as a bed and placed upon it mountains standing firm... (79:80)
"He created the heavens without pillars that you see and has cast into the earth firmly set mountains, lest it should shift with you, and dispersed therein from every creature. And We sent down rain from the sky and made grow therein [plants] of every noble kind (31:10) The Holy Quran.

Most of the earth is not a suitable habitat for us humans. I couldn't just pick you up and drop you anywhere on earth and expect you to survive. First of all, about 3/4 of earth is water. You would eventually drown and/or be eaten. On top of that, many places on earth are too hot or too cold for humans to live long. So I don't see what you mean when you say "the universe was created to serve us."

dear Cinderwild,
please know that when I have mentioned "a real moon" I was not talking about your pic at all!

1- Pongo says the earth doesn't behave like planets do!

2- you have invoked (Jupiter) and mentioned "wait for jupiter to come into view"
but you didn't ask your self how does it come into view! and your telescope would not give you an answer!
however my book told me that this planet pierces the heavens until it appears when blowing from the seven heaven up till the first one!

"By the sky and the night comer - (86:2)
It is the piercing star - (86:3)

Jupiter is a star according to my view! = but stars are (suns) according to yours!!!
1- is there any moon turning around our sun? no!
2- why does this sun (jupiter) appears and disappears in stead of other suns (stars according to my view)?

your future post will be:
hhhhhhh! Jupiter is nighther a sun nor a star it's a planet!

planets should not reflect any light because the earth (viewed from space) doesn't do so
and the earth is a planet (according to you point)! why other shining planets don't appear?
do they follow other laws and systems of rotation around the sun instead of Jupiter which appears lonley in the sky?

you are wrong!


3- you wrote "Most of the earth is not a suitable habitat for us humans. I couldn't just pick you up and drop you anywhere on earth and expect you to survive"
I already know this: " the question is why the place we occupy, is not as harmful as other places on earth?"
god wanted to protect his nature from us, we're chemical destroyers... air, trees, animals, all the creatures of god are suffering because we don't care about them, we don't even care about our selves!!! because when we destroy the environment, we actually destroy our life!!!

"And if it were not for Allah checking [some] people by means of others, the earth would have been corrupted, but Allah is full of bounty to the worlds". (2:251)

you said: "about 3/4 of earth is water" =
 “We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?" (21:30)

you said: "You would eventually drown and/or be eaten= "It is your Lord who drives the ship for you through the sea that you may seek of His bounty. Indeed, He is ever, to you, Merciful. And when adversity touches you at sea, lost are [all] those you invoke except for Him. But when He delivers you to the land, you turn away [from Him]. And ever is man ungrateful. Then do you feel secure that [instead] He will not cause a part of the land to swallow you or send against you a storm of stones? Then you would not find for yourselves an advocate (17:66/67/68) the Quran

you said: "On top of that, many places on earth are too hot or too cold for humans to live long".
I know some people who live in these places and they can not come to live in ours!!!!

you said: "So I don't see what you mean when you say "the universe was created to serve us"

I don't see as well why do you think "the universe was not created to serve us"? 

However, so very often round-earthers will take it as a sign of "accepting the truth" or "proof that I'm lying" because by definition earth cannot be rounded by its own gravity...

You might like to check on how shot was made by dropping molten lead from shot towers.  This proves that a free falling malleable mass will form a perfect sphere.
 
 



 
 

Who says they're really there.

Have you heard about the Hologram hypotheses?

And even if they are there. What does that have to do with the Earth being flat. For all you know these could be reflections of the Sun *cough* scepti *cough*.