Sun is smaller than the earth

Merry Christmas. Today I will prove that our sun is infect much smaller than earth. If the sun was ten times or whatever bigger than the earth, do you think the clouds would be able to block the sun rays from shining through? No of course not. Cloud cover is nothing more than thin layer of vapor. How can this completely block out the sun? But yet it does. So we must assume that the sun is much less stronger and much smaller than what the science says it is.

Well the Sun is actually inside the Earth while being at the same time outside of it. Nearly 10,000 Earths would fit inside the Sun yet in reality Two Suns fit inside the Earth and are actually inside the Earth. And Two Suns are outside the Earth. Each body actually has 4 parts, 2 being inside and 2 being outside however never more then one part is illuminated at any given point in time... 

Well the Sun is actually inside the Earth while being at the same time outside of it. Nearly 10,000 Earths would fit inside the Sun yet in reality Two Suns fit inside the Earth and are actually inside the Earth. And Two Suns are outside the Earth. Each body actually has 4 parts, 2 being inside and 2 being outside however never more then one part is illuminated at any given point in time...

What parallel universe are you from man? lol

If the sun was ten times or whatever bigger than the earth, do you think the clouds would be able to block the sun rays from shining through? No of course not. Cloud cover is nothing more than thin layer of vapor. How can this completely block out the sun? But yet it does. So we must assume that the sun is much less stronger and much smaller than what the science says it is.

The cloud cover never completely blocks the sun's light from earth, no matter how dense.  Which is why you can get sunburnt on a cloudy summer day from the UV.  And the sun's volume is 1.3 million times the size of earth's.  Your "ten times" is a little out LOL.

Merry Christmas. Today I will prove that our sun is infect much smaller than earth. If the sun was ten times or whatever bigger than the earth, do you think the clouds would be able to block the sun rays from shining through? No of course not. Cloud cover is nothing more than thin layer of vapor. How can this completely block out the sun? But yet it does. So we must assume that the sun is much less stronger and much smaller than what the science says it is.

Walk out of whatever building you are in. Then walk 200 meters away. Look at the building you came from. Next put your hand over your eyes. Your hand must be bigger than the building. Walk back to the building and go inside. Realize you are an idiot and change your life around.

Quote from: New Earth on December 25, 2013, 11:54:14 AM

If the sun was ten times or whatever bigger than the earth, do you think the clouds would be able to block the sun rays from shining through? No of course not. Cloud cover is nothing more than thin layer of vapor. How can this completely block out the sun? But yet it does. So we must assume that the sun is much less stronger and much smaller than what the science says it is.

The cloud cover never completely blocks the sun's light from earth, no matter how dense.  Which is why you can get sunburnt on a cloudy summer day from the UV.  And the sun's volume is 1.3 million times the size of earth's.  Your "ten times" is a little out LOL.

You obviously never been here, the Midwest lol

Quote from: New Earth on December 25, 2013, 11:54:14 AM

Merry Christmas. Today I will prove that our sun is infect much smaller than earth. If the sun was ten times or whatever bigger than the earth, do you think the clouds would be able to block the sun rays from shining through? No of course not. Cloud cover is nothing more than thin layer of vapor. How can this completely block out the sun? But yet it does. So we must assume that the sun is much less stronger and much smaller than what the science says it is.

Walk out of whatever building you are in. Then walk 200 meters away. Look at the building you came from. Next put your hand over your eyes. Your hand must be bigger than the building. Walk back to the building and go inside. Realize you are an idiot and change your life around.

How about I just throw you off of that building?

New Earth, I agree with you.  I have mentioned the same thing before about the clouds.  The sun's heat would not change so drastically from one minute to the next just from cloud cover.  The light and heat are both blocked momentarily.  Most of the sunlight is infrared (thermal, heat) then visible, then UV.

Quote from: sokarul on December 25, 2013, 02:15:20 PM

Quote from: New Earth on December 25, 2013, 11:54:14 AM

Merry Christmas. Today I will prove that our sun is infect much smaller than earth. If the sun was ten times or whatever bigger than the earth, do you think the clouds would be able to block the sun rays from shining through? No of course not. Cloud cover is nothing more than thin layer of vapor. How can this completely block out the sun? But yet it does. So we must assume that the sun is much less stronger and much smaller than what the science says it is.

Walk out of whatever building you are in. Then walk 200 meters away. Look at the building you came from. Next put your hand over your eyes. Your hand must be bigger than the building. Walk back to the building and go inside. Realize you are an idiot and change your life around.

How about I just throw you off of that building?

Did I crush your hopes and dreams with simple logic?

New Earth, I agree with you.  I have mentioned the same thing before about the clouds.  The sun's heat would not change so drastically from one minute to the next just from cloud cover.  The light and heat are both blocked momentarily.  Most of the sunlight is infrared (thermal, heat) then visible, then UV.

I'm not a scientist but it is very easy to understand that if a sun some million times bigger than earth, there would never any night time, and there would never be any winter or cold climates either. Most importantly cloud layer would never stop sun rays. There would be no gloomy cloudy days, there would be no rain and no thunderstorms. Mainstream science tells you that Sun is million times bigger than earth, yet somehow earth atmosphere can create enough cloud cover to block out the sun! Bull shit. lol And like you said, the temperature drops like a rock on cloudy days and it gets much colder. This is impossible if the sun was huge.

Quote from: New Earth on December 25, 2013, 02:40:34 PM

Quote from: sokarul on December 25, 2013, 02:15:20 PM

Quote from: New Earth on December 25, 2013, 11:54:14 AM

Merry Christmas. Today I will prove that our sun is infect much smaller than earth. If the sun was ten times or whatever bigger than the earth, do you think the clouds would be able to block the sun rays from shining through? No of course not. Cloud cover is nothing more than thin layer of vapor. How can this completely block out the sun? But yet it does. So we must assume that the sun is much less stronger and much smaller than what the science says it is.

Walk out of whatever building you are in. Then walk 200 meters away. Look at the building you came from. Next put your hand over your eyes. Your hand must be bigger than the building. Walk back to the building and go inside. Realize you are an idiot and change your life around.

How about I just throw you off of that building?

Did I crush your hopes and dreams with simple logic?

You didn't crush anything. You simply butted in and insulted me for no reason at all. Happy trolling son.

Quote from: sokarul on December 25, 2013, 03:06:53 PM

Quote from: New Earth on December 25, 2013, 02:40:34 PM

Quote from: sokarul on December 25, 2013, 02:15:20 PM

Quote from: New Earth on December 25, 2013, 11:54:14 AM

Merry Christmas. Today I will prove that our sun is infect much smaller than earth. If the sun was ten times or whatever bigger than the earth, do you think the clouds would be able to block the sun rays from shining through? No of course not. Cloud cover is nothing more than thin layer of vapor. How can this completely block out the sun? But yet it does. So we must assume that the sun is much less stronger and much smaller than what the science says it is.

Walk out of whatever building you are in. Then walk 200 meters away. Look at the building you came from. Next put your hand over your eyes. Your hand must be bigger than the building. Walk back to the building and go inside. Realize you are an idiot and change your life around.

How about I just throw you off of that building?

Did I crush your hopes and dreams with simple logic?

You didn't crush anything. You simply butted in and insulted me for no reason at all. Happy trolling son.

Your argument is majorly flawed. I showed you in a simple way.

Quote from: EarthIsASpaceship on December 25, 2013, 02:55:27 PM

New Earth, I agree with you.  I have mentioned the same thing before about the clouds.  The sun's heat would not change so drastically from one minute to the next just from cloud cover.  The light and heat are both blocked momentarily.  Most of the sunlight is infrared (thermal, heat) then visible, then UV.

I'm not a scientist but it is very easy to understand that if a sun some million times bigger than earth, there would never any night time, and there would never be any winter or cold climates either. Most importantly cloud layer would never stop sun rays. There would be no gloomy cloudy days, there would be no rain and no thunderstorms. Mainstream science tells you that Sun is million times bigger than earth, yet somehow earth atmosphere can create enough cloud cover to block out the sun! Bull shit. lol And like you said, the temperature drops like a rock on cloudy days and it gets much colder. This is impossible if the sun was huge.

To answer simply, the sun is also a long way away.

And like you said, the temperature drops like a rock on cloudy days and it gets much colder. This is impossible if the sun was huge.

How then can you explain the fact that it can be 40°C in Australia under a 24-hour cloud cover?  Your claim that a relatively thin cloud layer can make it "get much colder" has no basis in science.

Quote from: New Earth on December 25, 2013, 03:44:59 PM

And like you said, the temperature drops like a rock on cloudy days and it gets much colder. This is impossible if the sun was huge.

How then can you explain the fact that it can be 40°C in Australia under a 24-hour cloud cover?  Your claim that a relatively thin cloud layer can make it "get much colder" has no basis in science.

I understand that sometimes the temperature stays warm on cloudy days, it does the same thing here in U.S. but this is not because of the sun. Its because of atmosphere. Sometimes in the winter time here in the Midwest the air temperature is actually colder on sunny days. What does it mean? Well it means that the winter sun is weak. If the sun truly was the way science tells us it is, it would bring consistent high temperatures whenever its out. Yet the winter sun does not warm anything up. So this means that sun is small in comparison to earth. In the summer time it gets warmer because sun moves closer to the earth in northern hemiplane.

So this means that sun is small in comparison to earth. In the summer time it gets warmer because sun moves closer to the earth in northern hemiplane.

or a long way away.


A bonfire a mile away is colder than a match 2mm away.

Quote from: New Earth on December 26, 2013, 11:12:59 AM

Quote from: ausGeoff on December 26, 2013, 06:56:34 AM

Quote from: New Earth on December 25, 2013, 03:44:59 PM

And like you said, the temperature drops like a rock on cloudy days and it gets much colder. This is impossible if the sun was huge.

How then can you explain the fact that it can be 40°C in Australia under a 24-hour cloud cover?  Your claim that a relatively thin cloud layer can make it "get much colder" has no basis in science.

I understand that sometimes the temperature stays warm on cloudy days, it does the same thing here in U.S. but this is not because of the sun. Its because of atmosphere.

ok

Sometimes in the winter time here in the Midwest the air temperature is actually colder on sunny days. What does it mean? Well it means that the winter sun is weak.

You just said it was the atmosphere and now you are saying it's a weak sun. What is it? Make up your mind.

If the sun truly was the way science tells us it is, it would bring consistent high temperatures whenever its out. Yet the winter sun does not warm anything up. So this means that sun is small in comparison to earth. In the summer time it gets warmer because sun moves closer to the earth in northern hemiplane.

Did you ever notice days are shorter in the winter? Do you ever watch the weather news on TV? Ever hear them talk about cold fronts moving in from Canada? Do you even know anything at all? You seem like you don't.

BTW, cloudless nights can be the coldest because there is nothing to trap warm air against the ground.

I understand that sometimes the temperature stays warm on cloudy days, it does the same thing here in U.S. but this is not because of the sun. Its because of atmosphere. Sometimes in the winter time here in the Midwest the air temperature is actually colder on sunny days. What does it mean? Well it means that the winter sun is weak. If the sun truly was the way science tells us it is, it would bring consistent high temperatures whenever its out. Yet the winter sun does not warm anything up. So this means that sun is small in comparison to earth. In the summer time it gets warmer because sun moves closer to the earth in northern hemiplane.

Any/all warming of the earth's atmosphere, and the planet itself is due solely to the radiation emitted by the sun.

Whilst the apparent air temperature may well be colder on a clear sunny day, and warmer on an overcast day, the earth's core temperature remains (relatively) constant.  You have to exclude any localised ground effects on air temperature at the earth's surface—such as the "heat bank" effect in large cities, or the cooling effect in heavily vegetated rural areas.

There is no such thing as a "weak" sun.  The sun releases exactly the same amount of radiant energy each and every day of the year.

And try and tell people living on the equator that the winter sun doesn't warm anything up LOL.  The temperature in Pontianak, in Indonesia (for example) never drops below 82ºF even during winter.

And no; it doesn't get warmer in summer because the sun moves closer to the earth—the sun does not "move" relative to the earth (or any other body for that matter; it's stationary).

Check out this diagram for the science of seasonal temperatures:


 

New Earth, not only that, but RE scientists keep saying the Sun is getting bigger and bigger!!!! It makes me laugh.

If you stare at the Sun all day, you're not going to see any increase in size.
If you stare at the Sun all week, you won't see any increase in size.
If you stare at the Sun all year, you won't see any increase in size.
If you stare at the Sun all decade, you won't see any increase in size.
If you stare at the Sun all century, you won't see any increase in size.

They truly are delusional.

New Earth, not only that, but RE scientists keep saying the Sun is getting bigger and bigger!!!! It makes me laugh.

If you stare at the Sun all day, you're not going to see any increase in size.
If you stare at the Sun all week, you won't see any increase in size.
If you stare at the Sun all year, you won't see any increase in size.
If you stare at the Sun all decade, you won't see any increase in size.
If you stare at the Sun all century, you won't see any increase in size.

They truly are delusional.

If you stare at the sun all HOUR you won't see anything.

ever again.



On another note, how long would you need to stare at grass to see it growing? Thats growing a hell of a lot faster than anyone says the sun is, in relative terms.

New Earth, not only that, but RE scientists keep saying the Sun is getting bigger and bigger!!!! It makes me laugh.

If you stare at the Sun all day, you're not going to see any increase in size.
If you stare at the Sun all week, you won't see any increase in size.
If you stare at the Sun all year, you won't see any increase in size.
If you stare at the Sun all decade, you won't see any increase in size.
If you stare at the Sun all century, you won't see any increase in size.

They truly are delusional.

No scietist claims you can see the sun getting any bigger
Every day
Every week
Every month
Every year
Every decade
Every centry
These are your words stop trying to make out as if they are anything but.
The size of the sun changes over billions of years as it loses mass. Quite a simple concept realy. Just another simple theory FErs struggle with.

And how would you know it grows over billions of years? Our species hasn't even been around anything close to a billion years.
Again, lots of wandwaving and fanciful narrative from the RE community 

You don't need to be around billions of years to have a good idea what will hapen to a object that converts mass into energy. Gravity gets weaker their for it expands. Not a hard concept and certainly not on you need to observ for billions of years. I'm
Guessing you don't belive paint dryers unless you observe it. Lol.

I'm not a scientist

Obviously

but it is very easy to understand that if a sun some million times bigger than earth, there would never any night time,

Yes there would.  The side of planet facing away... with a globe anyway.

and there would never be any winter or cold climates either. Most importantly cloud layer would never stop sun rays. There would be no gloomy cloudy days, there would be no rain and no thunderstorms. Mainstream science tells you that Sun is million times bigger than earth, yet somehow earth atmosphere can create enough cloud cover to block out the sun! Bull shit. lol And like you said, the temperature drops like a rock on cloudy days and it gets much colder. This is impossible if the sun was huge.

That big sun is also a long ways away.

I understand that sometimes the temperature stays warm on cloudy days, it does the same thing here in U.S. but this is not because of the sun. Its because of atmosphere. Sometimes in the winter time here in the Midwest the air temperature is actually colder on sunny days. What does it mean?

Cloud cover holding heat in.

Well it means that the winter sun is weak.

No, it's at a shallow angle and is visible for a shorter duration.  Learn how weather works.

If the sun truly was the way science tells us it is, it would bring consistent high temperatures whenever its out. Yet the winter sun does not warm anything up.

Stand in the shade on a cold winter day for a few minutes, and then step out into the sunlight for a few minutes. 

So this means that sun is small in comparison to earth. In the summer time it gets warmer because sun moves closer to the earth in northern hemiplane.

Even at midnight in the middle of winter, the sun is only about 10,800 miles from my location according to FET.  It should be visible about 16 degrees above the horizon and directly north of me.

And how would you know it grows over billions of years? Our species hasn't even been around anything close to a billion years.
Again, lots of wandwaving and fanciful narrative from the RE community 

extrapolation from available data.

Now we wait to see if short term predictions pan out which would suggest long term ones will also.

Quote from: Ichimaru Gin :] on December 28, 2013, 10:59:04 AM

And how would you know it grows over billions of years? Our species hasn't even been around anything close to a billion years.
Again, lots of wandwaving and fanciful narrative from the RE community 

extrapolation from available data.

ie: we haven't seen any big increases but please believe that we can accurately predict what happens billions of years down the line.

Quote from: Spank86 on December 28, 2013, 11:47:30 AM

Quote from: Ichimaru Gin :] on December 28, 2013, 10:59:04 AM

And how would you know it grows over billions of years? Our species hasn't even been around anything close to a billion years.
Again, lots of wandwaving and fanciful narrative from the RE community 

extrapolation from available data.

ie: we haven't seen any big increases but please believe that we can accurately predict what happens billions of years down the line.

Who is saying we should be seeing a big increases? You keep on making things  up about he expansion of the sun as you go along and saying what you say it is part of the official scientific theory.

Quote from: Ichimaru Gin :] on December 28, 2013, 12:23:29 PM

Quote from: Spank86 on December 28, 2013, 11:47:30 AM

Quote from: Ichimaru Gin :] on December 28, 2013, 10:59:04 AM

And how would you know it grows over billions of years? Our species hasn't even been around anything close to a billion years.
Again, lots of wandwaving and fanciful narrative from the RE community 

extrapolation from available data.

ie: we haven't seen any big increases but please believe that we can accurately predict what happens billions of years down the line.

Who is saying we should be seeing a big increases? You keep on making things  up about he expansion of the sun as you go along and saying what you say it is part of the official scientific theory.

Nothing supports his view so he has to make things up.

Quote from: Spank86 on December 28, 2013, 11:47:30 AM

Quote from: Ichimaru Gin :] on December 28, 2013, 10:59:04 AM

And how would you know it grows over billions of years? Our species hasn't even been around anything close to a billion years.
Again, lots of wandwaving and fanciful narrative from the RE community 

extrapolation from available data.

ie: we haven't seen any big increases but please believe that we can accurately predict what happens billions of years down the line.

miniscule changes in line with what theory has said ought to happen has lead them to make the prediction.

Quote from: Ichimaru Gin :] on December 28, 2013, 12:23:29 PM

Quote from: Spank86 on December 28, 2013, 11:47:30 AM

Quote from: Ichimaru Gin :] on December 28, 2013, 10:59:04 AM

And how would you know it grows over billions of years? Our species hasn't even been around anything close to a billion years.
Again, lots of wandwaving and fanciful narrative from the RE community 

extrapolation from available data.

ie: we haven't seen any big increases but please believe that we can accurately predict what happens billions of years down the line.

miniscule changes in line with what theory has said ought to happen has lead them to make the prediction.

Can I see some study??? Or is this another 'because they say so".