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Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« on: November 23, 2013, 05:55:42 PM »
The Earth is at the centre of the Universe. The Universe revolves around the Earth. This is a fact that has been proved by Catholic theology and also by science. This has been accepted by many scientists.
This Catholic article proves that the Earth is at the centre of the Universe:

http://www.ldolphin.org/geocentricity/Daly.pdf

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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2013, 06:45:44 PM »
Yes, we've heard all this before.  How does it relate to a flat Earth?
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Quote from: wise on August 21, 2018, 11:47:45 PM
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2013, 08:05:06 PM »
Okay... quietly moving this to PR&S.
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2013, 09:43:31 PM »
@ any one given time, any part of the universe can be said to be 'the center'. If you pick a point in space, it can be said that the entire universe circles around that point, just as it can be said that the universe circles around any other given point. To suggest that the Earth is somehow unique in that respect is to infer a conclusion from data that does not exist.
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2013, 09:54:38 PM »
Quote from: Catholic Geocentrist on November 23, 2013, 05:55:42 PM
The Earth is at the centre of the Universe.
The Universe revolves around the Earth.
This has been accepted by many scientists.

Just FYI for you Yakov, the bolded statement here is a huge tipoff.
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2013, 10:13:40 PM »
Alchemist, on this phone, as primitive as it is, I can't see italics. I don't know what the tipoff is. :(
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2013, 10:18:21 PM »
Quote from: Catholic Geocentrist on November 23, 2013, 05:55:42 PM
This has been accepted by many scientists.
This statement.  Most scientists DO NOT argue a geocentric model, they argue the exact opposite.  This makes it clear to me OP was not serious.
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2013, 10:19:11 PM »
The Earth is actually central. The universe revolves around it. There is actually scientific proof of this.
Here is an excellent article giving proofs of this from theology and also from science:

http://www.ldolphin.org/geocentricity/Daly.pdf
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2013, 10:31:57 PM »
Alchemist, you are correct, of course. The geocentricity of the universe has been almost universally repudiated. As far as the theology of the matter, I'm neither Catholic nor any other variety of Christian. But having gotten a BA in Philosophy @ a Roman Catholic university, I was inundated w/ enough Catholic Theology such that I'm probably qualified to be the next Pope. But as a Traditional Jew, I've absolutely no desire to to endure more Catholicism. 4 yrs as an undergrad, & 2 yrs for my MA (@ the same school) was more than enough, thanks.
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2013, 10:33:11 PM »
This article about Geocentrism is from a Catholic religious view, and also discusses the scientific evidence for the truth that the Earth is at the centre of the Universe:


http://www.ldolphin.org/geocentricity/Daly.pdf


It is very good.

The above article is by John Daly. Robert Sungenis also writes about Geocentrism:
http://catholicintl.com/category/s11-science-issues/c59-geocentrism/
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2013, 10:39:55 PM »
Quote from: Catholic Geocentrist on November 23, 2013, 10:19:11 PM
The Earth is actually central. The universe revolves around it. There is actually scientific proof of this.
Here is an excellent article giving proofs of this from theology and also from science:

http://www.ldolphin.org/geocentricity/Daly.pdf

So, your evidence is a 75 page essay that says, "Earth is flat because the Bible says so"?

Also your other link led to another link which gave a 404 error.
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2013, 10:54:39 PM »
I think I have established, @ least to my own satisfaction, that the Jewish Bible never claimed to be a science book. As for the 'New Testament', I've read it twice. There is nothing it that would lead me toward speculation on the shape of the Earth. That the Ancient Israelites thought the Earth was flat is obvious. The people around them thought the same. But the TaNaKh never claimed to be more than it is, namely, a record of the relation between the God of Israel w/ the people of Israel. It would hardly contain any information about the Japanese, for example.
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2013, 11:04:21 PM »
To reply to an earlier poster: I am perfectly serious about Geocentrism.
I could not post the link properly, the first time. So I went back and edited the post, and it worked. I also added the corrected link to the previous post as well, for the purpose of clarity.
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2013, 11:10:23 PM »
This matter should be of interest to anyone who does not accept the widely held views about the physical status of the Earth.
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2013, 11:15:02 PM »
There is a plethora of new scientific proof that the Earth is stationary, and is at the centre of the Universe.
Two examples of proof:
1. Scientists discovered that the rest of the Universe is moving away from the Earth. Therefore we are at the centre.
2. The lack of fast winds shows that the Earth is stationary. If it were moving there would be incredibly fast winds surrounding us all the time. There are not. Because the Earth is still. The Earth is stationary. The Universe is in motion. The Earth is not. The Sun revolves around the Earth. The Universe revolves around the Earth as well. We are central. We are unique. 
The Sun revolves around the Earth.
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2013, 11:19:05 PM »
Second link still gives problems like the first time.  When I click "view full article" it returns the 404 error.  I don't think you can fix their site's issue.
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2013, 11:20:47 PM »
I will try to get a link for that.
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2013, 11:27:54 PM »
Scientists have stated that the rest of the Universe is moving away from the Earth in every direction.
Therefore we are at the centre of the Universe.
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2013, 11:31:31 PM »
That is a logical and undeniable result of what the scientists have claimed.
That is one of the reasons why scientists are considering Geocentrism more seriously now.
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2013, 11:33:02 PM »
I will post some quotes by famous scientists about Geocentrism.
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2013, 11:37:55 PM »
Quote from: Catholic Geocentrist on November 23, 2013, 11:27:54 PM
Scientists have stated that the rest of the Universe is moving away from the Earth in every direction.
Therefore we are at the centre of the Universe.

But in the exact same sense, based on the logic you're using, everything else in the universe is at the center of the universe too.  The Earth is no more the center of the universe than anything else is.
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2013, 11:42:27 PM »
No, because it is all moving away from the Earth. It is moving away from the Earth in every direction from the Earth. Therefore, we are at the centre of the Universe.
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2013, 11:43:50 PM »
This debate is similar to the evolution lie. Scientists are aware that evolution is untrue.  The only alternative to evolution is Creation, which proves the Existence of God.
So atheist scientists do not openly state that evolution is untrue, even though they know that evolution is untrue.
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2013, 11:45:06 PM »
Geocentrism is perfectly logical.
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2013, 11:45:45 PM »
Geocentrism makes more sense than the alternatives.
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2013, 11:47:16 PM »
Quote from: Catholic Geocentrist on November 23, 2013, 11:42:27 PM
No, because it is all moving away from the Earth. It is moving away from the Earth in every direction from the Earth. Therefore, we are at the centre of the Universe.
After an explosion, from the point of view of random particule, all others particules are moving away in every direction from it. Therefore the random particule is the center of the Universe.
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2013, 12:21:38 AM »
Here is a another article showing many of the scientific proofs that the Earth is at the centre of the Universe, and that the Sun revolves around the Earth:

http://www.ldolphin.org/geocentricity/Aspects.pdf

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« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2013, 04:50:45 AM »
Quote from: Catholic Geocentrist on November 23, 2013, 11:15:02 PM
There is a plethora of new scientific proof that the Earth is stationary, and is at the centre of the Universe.
Two examples of proof:
1. Scientists discovered that the rest of the Universe is moving away from the Earth. Therefore we are at the centre.
2. The lack of fast winds shows that the Earth is stationary. If it were moving there would be incredibly fast winds surrounding us all the time. There are not. Because the Earth is still. The Earth is stationary. The Universe is in motion. The Earth is not. The Sun revolves around the Earth. The Universe revolves around the Earth as well. We are central. We are unique. 
The Sun revolves around the Earth.
1. Take a balloon. Write a few dots on it biro. Blow it up, you'll see every dot will move away from every other dot.
2. You really need to read up on Newtonian and Einsteinien motion. Have you ever been on a plane? I never feel strong winds on a plane.
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2013, 06:32:15 AM »
Scientists have not said every point is moving away from the Earth, but that every point is moving away from each other.
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Re: Geocentrism - the Earth is at the Centre of the Universe
« Reply #29 on: November 24, 2013, 06:45:32 AM »
Quote from: Catholic Geocentrist on November 23, 2013, 05:55:42 PM
The Earth is at the centre of the Universe. The Universe revolves around the Earth. This is a fact that has been proved by Catholic theology and also by science. This has been accepted by many scientists.
This Catholic article proves that the Earth is at the centre of the Universe:

http://www.ldolphin.org/geocentricity/Daly.pdf
Indeed earth is the vary center and base of the universe creating they ultimate gravitationel hole which would make all things revolve around it :)
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