Moon light danger?

I have seen several claims of moonlight being dangerous. Is their any evidence that backs this up?

No

I have seen several claims of moonlight being dangerous. Is their any evidence that backs this up?

Of course there is.  Samuel Rowbotham said so.  And after all he is the all seeing and all knowing source of all true Flat Earth Theory !
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54468.0

P.S. - Ever hear of "Moonshine" whiskey ? I should think that would be evidence enough of the dangers of moonlight !

For anyone reading this post (my #560), please don't take it seriously.

mike247's answer was correct. There is no evidence other than superstition, myths and legends that moonlight is dangerous. Besides, it's the best time for observing the moon.

Quote from: 11cookeaw1 on October 25, 2013, 04:18:31 AM

I have seen several claims of moonlight being dangerous. Is their any evidence that backs this up?

Of course there is.  Samuel Rowbotham said so.  And after all he is the all seeing and all knowing source of all true Flat Earth Theory !
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54468.0

P.S. - Ever hear of "Moonshine" whiskey ? I should think that would be evidence enough of the dangers of moonlight !

For anyone reading this post (my #560), please don't take it seriously.

mike247's answer was correct. There is no evidence other than superstition, myths and legends that moonlight is dangerous. Besides, it's the best time for observing the moon.

But wait a minutue, mike247's answer (although quite brief it had emphatic content relevant to the question) is correct according to whom? 

If there are people that document moonlight's influences on their physical and/or mental state of being and it is the only variable that is identified, should that not be considered worthy of further investigation before making claims of true/false on this issue?

No

Please refrain from low-content posting in the upper forums.

Quote from: mike247 on October 26, 2013, 04:52:21 PM

No

Please refrain from low-content posting in the upper forums.

How is this low content? He asked a question where the answer either is yes, here is the proof, or no. How do I expand on no?

Should I have drawn out the no into a sentence or something lol

But wait a minutue, mike247's answer (although quite brief it had emphatic content relevant to the question) is correct according to whom? 

If there are people that document moonlight's influences on their physical and/or mental state of being and it is the only variable that is identified, should that not be considered worthy of further investigation before making claims of true/false on this issue?

Can you provide links to studies done where this is the case? It would interesting to read

Im sure some people have mental states that the presence of a full moon or moon light is distressing to them or causes them mental suffering but the same can be said for drinking water so I still stand by my original statement (unless we want to classify drinking water as dangerous, which it is if you are hydrphobic)

Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on October 26, 2013, 09:02:25 PM

Quote from: mike247 on October 26, 2013, 04:52:21 PM

No

Please refrain from low-content posting in the upper forums.

How is this low content? He asked a question where the answer either is yes, here is the proof, or no. How do I expand on no?

Should I have drawn out the no into a sentence or something lol

Please use the suggestions and concerns forum to argue about moderation.

Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on October 26, 2013, 09:02:25 PM

Quote from: mike247 on October 26, 2013, 04:52:21 PM

No

Please refrain from low-content posting in the upper forums.

How is this low content? He asked a question where the answer either is yes, here is the proof, or no. How do I expand on no?

Should I have drawn out the no into a sentence or something lol

He wasn't asking you and it isn't your place to answer.  It was therefore a completely unnecessary, 2-letter response.

He wasn't asking you and it isn't your place to answer.  It was therefore a completely unnecessary, 2-letter response.

Who exactly was he asking? I didn't exactly see a specific person mentioned in his initial question? Or did I miss the these people cant answer section of his post lol
And why is it not my place to answer, do you restrict who is allowed to talk on forums? Isn't the whole point of a public forum to stimulate debate and get questions and responses from a wide range of individuals? Restricting who can answer seems an odd way to run a forum just saying

Quote from: mike247 on October 26, 2013, 10:31:49 PM

Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on October 26, 2013, 09:02:25 PM

Quote from: mike247 on October 26, 2013, 04:52:21 PM

No

Please refrain from low-content posting in the upper forums.

How is this low content? He asked a question where the answer either is yes, here is the proof, or no. How do I expand on no?

Should I have drawn out the no into a sentence or something lol

Please use the suggestions and concerns forum to argue about moderation.

How am I best to do this, should I copy and post my response plus the moderators response in a new thread? Or is there some way to link to this one

You can link to a specific post by right clicking on the post title and copying the link address.  Then, just paste it in the new thread.

And as I see yet again the FE'ers are unable to provide evidence.

Where is your evidence that moon light is not dangerous?  RE'ers are quick to claim no evidence, but offer very little of their own. 

Where is your evidence that moon light is not dangerous?  RE'ers are quick to claim no evidence, but offer very little of their own.

Jroa, you are asking home to prove a negative; you know that is wrong. Just for fun I will answer anyway: I can say I have been out in the moonlight thousands of times with no ill effect.

I always thought you were a little odd.  Maybe you should not spend so much time under the moon light?  Just a thought.

How would you know there were no ill effects?  You have never been sick?  Have you ever had unexpected headaches?  Perhaps an unexplained rash or mental issues that you did not notice?

I always thought you were a little odd.  Maybe you should not spend so much time under the moon light?  Just a thought.

How would you know there were no ill effects?  You have never been sick?  Have you ever had unexpected headaches?  Perhaps an unexplained rash or mental issues that you did not notice?

I would know if you provided evidence. I was just playing along. As you well know, I cannot prove a negative.

Where is your evidence that moon light is not dangerous?  RE'ers are quick to claim no evidence, but offer very little of their own.

Please provide me with the evidence that dragons do not exist. Jroa, it is nonsense to ask about evidence if there is NO evidence.

Where is your evidence that moon light is not dangerous?  RE'ers are quick to claim no evidence, but offer very little of their own.

The earth is orbiting the earth and is reflecting the sunlight back to us therefore moonlight is no more dangerous than sunlight. The easiest proof for this is the phases of the moon. We know at least to best that we can that the moon is not imparting some secret death ray as we have been there and have samples of the surface.

We can't know anything to 100% certainty, but we do know to the best that we can that moon light is only as dangerous as sunlight

I have seen several claims of moonlight being dangerous. Is their any evidence that backs this up?

I should think that maybe some medical or mental authorities such as the American Medical Association or other organizations might be able to supply some information.

Also military and police organizations. Many sentries have the "Mid Watch" or will be outside in their patrols in the moonlight. Many police officers will have their "beats" during the night.

I have never seen any reports on ill effects except for maybe sleep deprivation  or maybe drowsiness, but maybe these might be good sources for information.

Except for the mention of myths, etc. I have never seen any evidence that moonlight was dangerous. 

When I was in the US Navy, I was fortunate and did not have to stand "Mid Watches" but of course there were always other officers and enlisted men who
were exposed to moonlight - every night or at least almost every night -  in their duties, but I never heard of any ill effects other than those previously mentioned.

Those on the "Evening Watch" (1600-2400 or from 4:00 PM to Midnight) or "Mid Watch" (0000-0800 or from Midnight to 8:00 AM) would of course be exposed to moonlight during their watches.

My wife is an RN and she says she has never heard of any evidence of  medical or mental dangers of moonlight in her studies and practice.

Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on October 26, 2013, 11:12:42 PM

He wasn't asking you and it isn't your place to answer.  It was therefore a completely unnecessary, 2-letter response.

Who exactly was he asking? I didn't exactly see a specific person mentioned in his initial question? Or did I miss the these people cant answer section of his post lol
And why is it not my place to answer, do you restrict who is allowed to talk on forums? Isn't the whole point of a public forum to stimulate debate and get questions and responses from a wide range of individuals? Restricting who can answer seems an odd way to run a forum just saying

to mike247
I haven't been on this website as long as most persons, but I have learned that FE will restrict, ban or warn anyone posting anything that goes against FE Theory as being "low content" when they can't answer a question. And IMHO that is usually the case. IMHO it's just the way this forum is run.

They will even "lock" a thread when there are no answers from FE's , even if some RE's want to make additional comments on that thread.

Moonlight induces metabolic changes which are costly and detrimental to the organism by making an unbalanced system. I have shown this to be the case as Dicot plants over-produce a tissue, collenchyma, (which normally grows in excess due to mechanical stress) when exposed to moonlight.

I haven't been able to test humans for dangerous moonlight effects. However, reports of gastrointestinal pain in sailors exposed to moonlight has been documented and shared by member such as John Davis. This makes sense in my mind because of the locality of the pain: GI cells.
GI cells are very active metabolically. The cells are replenished at a rate much higher than other cells in the body. This is why someone undergoing chemo is often nauseous as a side effect. The drugs target rapidly dividing cells (cancerous) but also harm the cells in the body with an already high rate of division (ex: GI cells, hair falls out for a similar reason). To me, it is all a matter of a damaged metabolic system.

Hope I've helped,
~Ichi

Moonlight induces metabolic changes which are costly and detrimental to the organism by making an unbalanced system. I have shown this to be the case as Dicot plants over-produce a tissue, collenchyma, (which normally grows in excess due to mechanical stress) when exposed to moonlight.

I haven't been able to test humans for dangerous moonlight effects. However, reports of gastrointestinal pain in sailors exposed to moonlight has been documented and shared by member such as John Davis. This makes sense in my mind because of the locality of the pain: GI cells.
GI cells are very active metabolically. The cells are replenished at a rate much higher than other cells in the body. This is why someone undergoing chemo is often nauseous as a side effect. The drugs target rapidly dividing cells (cancerous) but also harm the cells in the body with an already high rate of division (ex: GI cells, hair falls out for a similar reason). To me, it is all a matter of a damaged metabolic system.

Hope I've helped,
~Ichi

Interesting, can I read your article? where was it published? Were the other metabolic factors in play simply to do with the time of day or low levels of light? How did you identify the moon as the causal incident over other factors?

the only FE i know to be extremely affected (almost incapacitating) moonlight is Willmore. Davis had some affect, but found a cure.

Quote from: Ichimaru Gin :] on October 27, 2013, 05:00:26 PM

Moonlight induces metabolic changes which are costly and detrimental to the organism by making an unbalanced system. I have shown this to be the case as Dicot plants over-produce a tissue, collenchyma, (which normally grows in excess due to mechanical stress) when exposed to moonlight.

I haven't been able to test humans for dangerous moonlight effects. However, reports of gastrointestinal pain in sailors exposed to moonlight has been documented and shared by member such as John Davis. This makes sense in my mind because of the locality of the pain: GI cells.
GI cells are very active metabolically. The cells are replenished at a rate much higher than other cells in the body. This is why someone undergoing chemo is often nauseous as a side effect. The drugs target rapidly dividing cells (cancerous) but also harm the cells in the body with an already high rate of division (ex: GI cells, hair falls out for a similar reason). To me, it is all a matter of a damaged metabolic system.

Hope I've helped,
~Ichi

Interesting, can I read your article? where was it published? Were the other metabolic factors in play simply to do with the time of day or low levels of light? How did you identify the moon as the causal incident over other factors?

Were persons who were exposed to moonlight  in fields other than sailors included in Mr. Davis' documents ?

Since Ichi mentioned that sailors were affected by moonlight, it would seem that records and reports would be available through Naval medical records such as those from the Navies of the US or the UK for just two examples.

Or  if in the case of merchant mariners or steamship companies they would have records for refence.

This would also seem to have maybe have been recorded in publications such as the AMA Journal.

I would probably take statements from John Davis as much as I would from Samuel Rowbotham.

EDITED WITH DISCLAIMER 29 OCTOBER 2013.: PERSONAL EVIDENCE :
Some people don't realize it, but there are many specialty ratings in the Navy. So someone in one specialty rating most likely won't know something about  something in  another specialty rating. But I was an Electronics Technician (ET) and didn't know much about medicine . But there were some shipmates who were Pharmacists Mates (PH) in sick bay and we did cross paths from time to time  . But I never heard any reports from them about any cases of health problems from moonlight. I am certain they would have mentioned it if there had been some cases in that category.

I'm just guessing an FE Response: "But for  those in the sick bay moonlight sickness was classified "Top Secret" and they weren't allowed to talk about it." LOL.

Moonlight induces metabolic changes which are costly and detrimental to the organism by making an unbalanced system. I have shown this to be the case as Dicot plants over-produce a tissue, collenchyma, (which normally grows in excess due to mechanical stress) when exposed to moonlight.

Ichi, I'm sorry but you have not.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,42164.0.html#.UnEYK_m2h8E

Quote from: Ichimaru Gin :] on October 27, 2013, 05:00:26 PM

Moonlight induces metabolic changes which are costly and detrimental to the organism by making an unbalanced system. I have shown this to be the case as Dicot plants over-produce a tissue, collenchyma, (which normally grows in excess due to mechanical stress) when exposed to moonlight.

Ichi, I'm sorry but you have not.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,42164.0.html#.UnEYK_m2h8E

If you read through that thread, I addressed what Clocktower perceived as 'wrong'. He was shot down, climate was controlled, yet he will still complain to this day.

Quote from: dephelis on October 30, 2013, 07:35:41 AM

Quote from: Ichimaru Gin :] on October 27, 2013, 05:00:26 PM

Moonlight induces metabolic changes which are costly and detrimental to the organism by making an unbalanced system. I have shown this to be the case as Dicot plants over-produce a tissue, collenchyma, (which normally grows in excess due to mechanical stress) when exposed to moonlight.

Ichi, I'm sorry but you have not.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,42164.0.html#.UnEYK_m2h8E

If you read through that thread, I addressed what Clocktower perceived as 'wrong'. He was shot down, climate was controlled, yet he will still complain to this day.

You addressed everything (debatable) except for the most critical part, that your experimental design actually failed to correctly isolate your test groups and you didn't quantify the amount of moonlight being received by any test group in your methodology.

I'd also add that a group sample size of 21 is a poor sample size to test on and requires higher statistical confidence levels to compensate, you would have been better served to group more effectively. Two groups of 50 would have been better, the control exposed to sunlight and moonlight and your test group only exposed to sunlight. With the scheduling the experiment to occur when the moon is only present during night time.

Did you ever write a complete, detailed paper on it ... if so can we see it?

Also, Clocktower hasn't been around since mid-2012 so I doubt he's still complaining.

If moonlight was dangerous, neither God or evolution  exist. What theory as the creation of the universe do the moonies adhere to?

If you read through that thread, I addressed what Clocktower perceived as 'wrong'. He was shot down, climate was controlled, yet he will still complain to this day.

You didn't address one key thing for me. Having read your original piece and the criticism of it, what I want to know is how come you didn't have a control for group 3 that also recieved no sunlight, but instead of moonlight received normal uv light at the same levels as the moon during the night?

How do you know if it was moonlight that caused the damage, or the lack of exposure to normal levels of sunlight?