Mechanism for bendy light?

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11cookeaw1

Mechanism for bendy light?
« on: September 28, 2013, 01:05:42 AM »
What exactly is the mechanism for bendy light?
How exactly does it work?

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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2013, 01:15:18 AM »
A rainbow is an example of bendy light.

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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2013, 01:19:25 AM »
So is a mirage. 

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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2013, 02:31:27 AM »
In one word; refraction.
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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2013, 02:37:19 AM »
So, bendy light?

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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2013, 02:58:15 AM »
What about it?
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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2013, 03:04:35 AM »
It's real?

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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2013, 03:13:59 AM »
Yes refraction is real, if that's what you mean.

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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2013, 04:13:13 AM »
But what is causing the light from the sun to bend away from the earth.

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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2013, 04:22:22 AM »
But what is causing the light from the sun to bend away from the earth.

Well there is gravity but that'd be a death sentence to UA if a flat earther wanted to use that excuse.

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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2013, 04:29:13 AM »
But what is causing the light from the sun to bend away from the earth.
More to the point, how can the suns light be hidden behind the moon on your so called round earth and universe model.

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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2013, 04:30:25 AM »
But what is causing the light from the sun to bend away from the earth.
More to the point, how can the suns light be hidden behind the moon on your so called round earth and universe model.
What exactly do you mean by that?

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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2013, 05:01:43 AM »
But what is causing the light from the sun to bend away from the earth.
More to the point, how can the suns light be hidden behind the moon on your so called round earth and universe model.
What exactly do you mean by that?
Such as on an eclipse. How can the suns light be totally hidden in your round earth and 93 million mile sun model.

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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2013, 05:17:31 AM »
But what is causing the light from the sun to bend away from the earth.
More to the point, how can the suns light be hidden behind the moon on your so called round earth and universe model.
What exactly do you mean by that?
Such as on an eclipse. How can the suns light be totally hidden in your round earth and 93 million mile sun model.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse#Totality

The totality you speak of is never observed. The moon's appearance is slightly smaller than the sun and a total solar eclipse provides a rare opportunity to view the sun's corona as well as the chromosphere, solar prominences and even solar flares. I don't know if you have ever experienced a solar eclipse but if you had you'd know that the sun's light isn't totally blocked out and some projection of light still reaches the earth. In other words, not even for a moment is it anything like the blackness of night.

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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2013, 05:24:25 AM »
Exactly what causes bendy light in FET

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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2013, 06:58:10 AM »
Exactly what causes bendy light in FET
The atmospheric layers that go up the dome.

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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2013, 07:01:06 AM »
But what is causing the light from the sun to bend away from the earth.
More to the point, how can the suns light be hidden behind the moon on your so called round earth and universe model.
What exactly do you mean by that?
Such as on an eclipse. How can the suns light be totally hidden in your round earth and 93 million mile sun model.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse#Totality

The totality you speak of is never observed. The moon's appearance is slightly smaller than the sun and a total solar eclipse provides a rare opportunity to view the sun's corona as well as the chromosphere, solar prominences and even solar flares. I don't know if you have ever experienced a solar eclipse but if you had you'd know that the sun's light isn't totally blocked out and some projection of light still reaches the earth. In other words, not even for a moment is it anything like the blackness of night.
The sun is supposedly over 1 MILLION km in diameter against a few thousand for the supposed moon in your round earth model, so why do we only see a small ring of light around the so called moon from the so called 93 million mile 1 million plus km diameter sun, why?, why?

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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2013, 07:03:42 AM »
Exactly what causes bendy light in FET
The atmospheric layers that go up the dome.

I know how refraction works and in RE, refraction in the atmosphere (for example rainbow or mirage) doesn't always happen and when it happens the direction depends on the atmospheric condition at the time. Does light always bend in FE and which direction does light bend in FE?
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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2013, 07:18:36 AM »
The sun is supposedly over 1 MILLION km in diameter against a few thousand for the supposed moon in your round earth model, so why do we only see a small ring of light around the so called moon from the so called 93 million mile 1 million plus km diameter sun, why?, why?

The proper, detailed answer involves maths, and I know you hate maths. To keep it simple (and very much NOT TO SCALE), put a basketball on the ground some distance away. Now hold a golf ball out at arms length, in line with the basketball, and back up until it just obscures the basketball. There you have a small, close object obscuring a larger, more distant object.
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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2013, 07:19:32 AM »
But what is causing the light from the sun to bend away from the earth.
More to the point, how can the suns light be hidden behind the moon on your so called round earth and universe model.
What exactly do you mean by that?
Such as on an eclipse. How can the suns light be totally hidden in your round earth and 93 million mile sun model.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse#Totality

The totality you speak of is never observed. The moon's appearance is slightly smaller than the sun and a total solar eclipse provides a rare opportunity to view the sun's corona as well as the chromosphere, solar prominences and even solar flares. I don't know if you have ever experienced a solar eclipse but if you had you'd know that the sun's light isn't totally blocked out and some projection of light still reaches the earth. In other words, not even for a moment is it anything like the blackness of night.
The sun is supposedly over 1 MILLION km in diameter against a few thousand for the supposed moon in your round earth model, so why do we only see a small ring of light around the so called moon from the so called 93 million mile 1 million plus km diameter sun, why?, why?

What do you mean why? It is a distance to size ratio. The sun is larger than the moon but it is also much further away. It's apparent size from our perspective is only slightly larger than the moon.

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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2013, 08:13:28 AM »
Exactly what causes bendy light in FET
The atmospheric layers that go up the dome.

The Refractive index is 1.0003 at see level, also the air density decreases exponentially as you go up, already less then half at the peaks of tall mountains.

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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2013, 08:18:48 AM »
The sun is supposedly over 1 MILLION km in diameter against a few thousand for the supposed moon in your round earth model, so why do we only see a small ring of light around the so called moon from the so called 93 million mile 1 million plus km diameter sun, why?, why?

The proper, detailed answer involves maths, and I know you hate maths. To keep it simple (and very much NOT TO SCALE), put a basketball on the ground some distance away. Now hold a golf ball out at arms length, in line with the basketball, and back up until it just obscures the basketball. There you have a small, close object obscuring a larger, more distant object.
Oh yes, of course. I know this and you are correct. The problem is, I'm not talking about a big ball, little ball scenario.
You see, this is the problem, I'll explain.

The sun emits it's light and heat through this so called vacuum of space, magically...ok...now the sun is supposedly 1 million plus km in diameter, the moon is a few thousand and yet to our eye the so called moon virtually blocks it out.
The thing is, if the sun can throw it's light through this matter less vacuum then it has to do it at 1 million km wide, as in, we are told that nothing stops the light in space.
So this being the case, that heat and light must come past the so called moon, like half a million km  either side and above it and below it, or all around it, because that's how it should hit us.

If the sun was a simple 1 million km dead ball, I could understand the so called moon blocking it out as there's no so called emittance of this light bathing the earth.

Can you see how preposterous it all is. It actually shouldn't even be an issue to even contemplate and should have been resigned to the scrap heap as the nonsense it is.
If there's a reason that somehow stops this light from bathing a half a million km ring around this moon, then I'd like to hear the bull crap reason for this.


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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2013, 08:22:15 AM »
Exactly what causes bendy light in FET
The atmospheric layers that go up the dome.

The Refractive index is 1.0003 at see level, also the air density decreases exponentially as you go up, already less then half at the peaks of tall mountains.
The earth under the dome is a layered sandwich of arced elements. We live under the densest part of those on land in what we breathe, like we are all stood under a large tunnel and each layer of arch bricks are a layer of different elements in different states up the dome.

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11cookeaw1

Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2013, 08:27:40 AM »
Exactly what causes bendy light in FET
The atmospheric layers that go up the dome.

The Refractive index is 1.0003 at see level, also the air density decreases exponentially as you go up, already less then half at the peaks of tall mountains.
The earth under the dome is a layered sandwich of arced elements. We live under the densest part of those on land in what we breathe, like we are all stood under a large tunnel and each layer of arch bricks are a layer of different elements in different states up the dome.
That doesn't explain anything. The refractive index of air is too low to have any significant effect.

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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2013, 08:28:44 AM »
Exactly what causes bendy light in FET
The atmospheric layers that go up the dome.

The Refractive index is 1.0003 at see level, also the air density decreases exponentially as you go up, already less then half at the peaks of tall mountains.
The earth under the dome is a layered sandwich of arced elements. We live under the densest part of those on land in what we breathe, like we are all stood under a large tunnel and each layer of arch bricks are a layer of different elements in different states up the dome.
That doesn't explain anything. The refractive index of air is too low to have any significant effect.
Who's talking about air?

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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2013, 08:36:28 AM »
Exactly what causes bendy light in FET
The atmospheric layers that go up the dome.

The Refractive index is 1.0003 at see level, also the air density decreases exponentially as you go up, already less then half at the peaks of tall mountains.
The earth under the dome is a layered sandwich of arced elements. We live under the densest part of those on land in what we breathe, like we are all stood under a large tunnel and each layer of arch bricks are a layer of different elements in different states up the dome.
That doesn't explain anything. The refractive index of air is too low to have any significant effect.
Who's talking about air?
Then what is it? Why are we able to see through it? Why doesn't it fall to earth

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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2013, 08:38:50 AM »
The sun is supposedly over 1 MILLION km in diameter against a few thousand for the supposed moon in your round earth model, so why do we only see a small ring of light around the so called moon from the so called 93 million mile 1 million plus km diameter sun, why?, why?

The proper, detailed answer involves maths, and I know you hate maths. To keep it simple (and very much NOT TO SCALE), put a basketball on the ground some distance away. Now hold a golf ball out at arms length, in line with the basketball, and back up until it just obscures the basketball. There you have a small, close object obscuring a larger, more distant object.
Oh yes, of course. I know this and you are correct. The problem is, I'm not talking about a big ball, little ball scenario.
You see, this is the problem, I'll explain.

The sun emits it's light and heat through this so called vacuum of space, magically...ok...now the sun is supposedly 1 million plus km in diameter, the moon is a few thousand and yet to our eye the so called moon virtually blocks it out.
The thing is, if the sun can throw it's light through this matter less vacuum then it has to do it at 1 million km wide, as in, we are told that nothing stops the light in space.
So this being the case, that heat and light must come past the so called moon, like half a million km  either side and above it and below it, or all around it, because that's how it should hit us.

If the sun was a simple 1 million km dead ball, I could understand the so called moon blocking it out as there's no so called emittance of this light bathing the earth.

Can you see how preposterous it all is. It actually shouldn't even be an issue to even contemplate and should have been resigned to the scrap heap as the nonsense it is.
If there's a reason that somehow stops this light from bathing a half a million km ring around this moon, then I'd like to hear the bull crap reason for this.

First of all, you can sit in a room with one light on. Suppose you are sitting across the room from the light source and you put up a book at arms length to completely cover the light source. You now have a shadow on your face but that shadow is not as dark as it would be if the lights were completely off.

Second, I'm not sure what you mean about bathing a half million km ring around the moon in light. I think you are suggesting that the shadow of the moon during a solar eclipse should appropriately be placed in just a small area on the earth. This is correct and I think you are mistakenly suggesting that it doesn't happen. Only a small geographic location can experience totality during a solar eclipse at a given time.

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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2013, 08:40:59 AM »
Exactly what causes bendy light in FET
The atmospheric layers that go up the dome.

The Refractive index is 1.0003 at see level, also the air density decreases exponentially as you go up, already less then half at the peaks of tall mountains.
The earth under the dome is a layered sandwich of arced elements. We live under the densest part of those on land in what we breathe, like we are all stood under a large tunnel and each layer of arch bricks are a layer of different elements in different states up the dome.
That doesn't explain anything. The refractive index of air is too low to have any significant effect.
Who's talking about air?
Then what is it? Why are we able to see through it? Why doesn't it fall to earth
It's stacked and under pressure.

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Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2013, 08:43:13 AM »
Exactly what causes bendy light in FET
The atmospheric layers that go up the dome.

The Refractive index is 1.0003 at see level, also the air density decreases exponentially as you go up, already less then half at the peaks of tall mountains.
The earth under the dome is a layered sandwich of arced elements. We live under the densest part of those on land in what we breathe, like we are all stood under a large tunnel and each layer of arch bricks are a layer of different elements in different states up the dome.
That doesn't explain anything. The refractive index of air is too low to have any significant effect.
Who's talking about air?
Then what is it? Why are we able to see through it? Why doesn't it fall to earth
It's stacked and under pressure.
Stacked? under pressure from what?

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11cookeaw1

Re: Mechanism for bendy light?
« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2013, 08:56:18 AM »
Also Sceptimatic this is what your theory predicts http://i44.tinypic.com/2ppg64j.png if there is a labour above us more dense.