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Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« on: September 09, 2013, 08:00:02 PM »
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,59507.msg1538434.html#msg1538434

Ask one question and a thousand off-topic posts follow you like little fairies of discussion destruction. What the hell is going on?

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,58190.msg1538872.html#msg1538872
« Last Edit: September 09, 2013, 08:05:02 PM by Rushy »
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Re: Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2013, 08:38:06 PM »
RE'ers seem to think that Q&A is for them to debate.  It is sad, but true. 
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Re: Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2013, 08:42:16 AM »
I still miss Thork as curator.
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Re: Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2013, 11:36:10 AM »
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Re: Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2013, 12:29:52 PM »
Seriously. It's no wonder most of FES regulars have abandoned the upper fora. It makes you not want to put much effort into posts if you know all is going to follow is ten different garbage posts. By all means, make Thork curator again. Make Saddam moderator. Do something about it, dammit.  >:(
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Re: Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2013, 02:35:02 PM »
Quote from: Ævan on September 10, 2013, 11:36:10 AM
Quote from: Genius on September 10, 2013, 08:42:16 AM
I still miss Thork as curator.

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You should try posting less often, or fewer frightening things. That way, our recommendations won't seem so ridiculous.
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Re: Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2013, 02:46:08 PM »
Quote from: Particle Person on September 10, 2013, 02:35:02 PM
Quote from: Ævan on September 10, 2013, 11:36:10 AM
Quote from: Genius on September 10, 2013, 08:42:16 AM
I still miss Thork as curator.

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Re: Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2013, 04:46:05 PM »
I will be the first to admit that Thork was a better Curator than I was.  He just flies off the handle occasionally and basically rage quit. 

I would vote for Thork to at least be given Curator status. 
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Re: Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2013, 04:52:47 PM »
Quote from: jroa on September 09, 2013, 08:38:06 PM
RE'ers seem to think that Q&A is for them to debate.  It is sad, but true.

Tom Bishop pulled at least his own weight in turning that thread in to a debate.

Quote from: Rushy on September 09, 2013, 08:00:02 PM
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,59507.msg1538434.html#msg1538434

Ask one question and a thousand off-topic posts follow you like little fairies of discussion destruction. What the hell is going on?

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,58190.msg1538872.html#msg1538872

If you do not have the self-awareness to appreciate your particular tone or method of eliciting reactions from people then I can forgive your apparent ignorance. Otherwise you are just immature.
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Re: Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2013, 05:17:12 PM »
Quote from: Rama Set on September 11, 2013, 04:52:47 PM
Quote from: jroa on September 09, 2013, 08:38:06 PM
RE'ers seem to think that Q&A is for them to debate.  It is sad, but true.

Tom Bishop pulled at least his own weight in turning that thread in to a debate.

Quote from: Rushy on September 09, 2013, 08:00:02 PM
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,59507.msg1538434.html#msg1538434

Tom Bishop gives answers to questions.  They are FE answers.  The forum is FE Q&A, implying that FE questions would be asked and FE answers would be given. 

Ask one question and a thousand off-topic posts follow you like little fairies of discussion destruction. What the hell is going on?

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,58190.msg1538872.html#msg1538872

If you do not have the self-awareness to appreciate your particular tone or method of eliciting reactions from people then I can forgive your apparent ignorance. Otherwise you are just immature.
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Re: Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2013, 04:05:49 AM »
Quote from: Rama Set on September 11, 2013, 04:52:47 PM
Tom Bishop pulled at least his own weight in turning that thread in to a debate.
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Re: Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2013, 09:15:26 AM »
You may or may not be able to see Jroa's response, but here it is:

Quote from: jroa on September 11, 2013, 05:17:12 PM
Tom Bishop gives answers to questions.  They are FE answers.  The forum is FE Q&A, implying that FE questions would be asked and FE answers would be given. 

And he is very much correct. FE Q&A is not for debate. You do not argue with what Tom says. You ask, Tom answers, end of discussion.
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Re: Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2013, 09:17:31 AM »
Quote from: jroa on September 11, 2013, 04:46:05 PM
I will be the first to admit that Thork was a better Curator than I was.  He just flies off the handle occasionally and basically rage quit. 

I would vote for Thork to at least be given Curator status.


Th*rk did the right thing and moved a silly post.
It is what all good curators do.
For some reason you can't move posts for any reason for users that have 5 lit squares.
Even Junker won't do it. And he moves everything.
What is really sad that Willmore did not back Th*rk. By this he showed terrible leadership.

Th*rk should not only be given his status back, Willmore should apologize.
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Re: Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2013, 09:33:22 AM »
Quote from: Rushy on September 12, 2013, 09:15:26 AM
You may or may not be able to see Jroa's response, but here it is:

Quote from: jroa on September 11, 2013, 05:17:12 PM
Tom Bishop gives answers to questions.  They are FE answers.  The forum is FE Q&A, implying that FE questions would be asked and FE answers would be given. 

And he is very much correct. FE Q&A is not for debate. You do not argue with what Tom says. You ask, Tom answers, end of discussion.

So you're saying that we can't request clarification or call BS on answers that don't make sense?
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Re: Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2013, 09:38:37 AM »
Quote from: markjo on September 12, 2013, 09:33:22 AM
Quote from: Rushy on September 12, 2013, 09:15:26 AM
You may or may not be able to see Jroa's response, but here it is:

Quote from: jroa on September 11, 2013, 05:17:12 PM
Tom Bishop gives answers to questions.  They are FE answers.  The forum is FE Q&A, implying that FE questions would be asked and FE answers would be given. 

And he is very much correct. FE Q&A is not for debate. You do not argue with what Tom says. You ask, Tom answers, end of discussion.

So you're saying that we can't request clarification or call BS on answers that don't make sense?

I figure if you have that much beef with something, you could put in it Flat Earth Debate. Seems like that's why it's there.
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Re: Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2013, 10:20:23 AM »
As it is Q&A, surely we should be allowed to Question the Answer too
« Last Edit: September 12, 2013, 10:37:53 AM by Cartesian »
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Re: Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2013, 10:34:56 AM »
Quote from: markjo on September 12, 2013, 09:33:22 AM
Quote from: Rushy on September 12, 2013, 09:15:26 AM
You may or may not be able to see Jroa's response, but here it is:

Quote from: jroa on September 11, 2013, 05:17:12 PM
Tom Bishop gives answers to questions.  They are FE answers.  The forum is FE Q&A, implying that FE questions would be asked and FE answers would be given. 

And he is very much correct. FE Q&A is not for debate. You do not argue with what Tom says. You ask, Tom answers, end of discussion.

So you're saying that we can't request clarification or call BS on answers that don't make sense?
Its FE Q&A. Its not FE Q&A&RC&CBS. You need to stop causing problems.
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Re: Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2013, 11:53:27 AM »
Quote from: Ævan on September 12, 2013, 10:34:56 AM
Quote from: markjo on September 12, 2013, 09:33:22 AM
Quote from: Rushy on September 12, 2013, 09:15:26 AM
You may or may not be able to see Jroa's response, but here it is:

Quote from: jroa on September 11, 2013, 05:17:12 PM
Tom Bishop gives answers to questions.  They are FE answers.  The forum is FE Q&A, implying that FE questions would be asked and FE answers would be given. 

And he is very much correct. FE Q&A is not for debate. You do not argue with what Tom says. You ask, Tom answers, end of discussion.

So you're saying that we can't request clarification or call BS on answers that don't make sense?
Its FE Q&A. Its not FE Q&A&RC&CBS. You need to stop causing problems.

I personally cannot accept evident falsehoods as answers.  So if someone's answer falls in to that catergory it is not trouble making to rebut or respond.  This is not trouble-making and the hard-line stance being taken is totally unproductive.  However, if a mod were to step in to an actual thread and ask that the debate be shelved, I would of course be respectful, so long as the mod understands that there are sometimes issues of clarification, correction, or elucidation that need to be addressed.
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Re: Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2013, 12:06:41 PM »
Quote from: Rama Set on September 12, 2013, 11:53:27 AM
I personally cannot accept evident falsehoods as answers.
Try.
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Re: Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2013, 12:10:34 PM »
Quote from: Ævan on September 12, 2013, 12:06:41 PM
Quote from: Rama Set on September 12, 2013, 11:53:27 AM
I personally cannot accept evident falsehoods as answers.
Try.

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Nope.  Sorry.  Can't do it.
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Re: Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2013, 12:12:17 PM »
Quote from: Rama Set on September 12, 2013, 12:10:34 PM
Quote from: Ævan on September 12, 2013, 12:06:41 PM
Quote from: Rama Set on September 12, 2013, 11:53:27 AM
I personally cannot accept evident falsehoods as answers.
Try.

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Nope.  Sorry.  Can't do it.

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Re: Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2013, 12:16:24 PM »
FE Q&A should be purely for question and answer. If you want to debate the answer, do it in the proper forum. You can even leave a link in the Q&A thread if you want. If you can't abide by these simple rules, a ban should be in order.
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Re: Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2013, 12:41:45 PM »
I think the problem here is many people can't differentiate between asking for clarification on an answer, and challenging an answer to spark debate. The former is acceptable; the latter is unacceptable. In the FE Q&A section, you should be asking question to better understand FET. In the debate sections you may challenge FET.
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Re: Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2013, 03:22:23 PM »
I agree with Franklin, even though he is a druggy. 
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Re: Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2013, 05:54:47 PM »
Quote from: Tausami on September 12, 2013, 12:16:24 PM
FE Q&A should be purely for question and answer. If you want to debate the answer, do it in the proper forum. You can even leave a link in the Q&A thread if you want. If you can't abide by these simple rules, a ban should be in order.
I disagree.  An unsatisfactory answer is no answer.
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« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2013, 09:33:02 AM »
markjo, think about the name Q&A in a FE context. 
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« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2013, 11:29:03 AM »
Different FE models have different answers to the same question.  How are we to know which answers to which models are the correct ones if we are not allowed to explore those answers in greater depth?
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Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2013, 11:32:06 AM »
markjo, you have been here for years, and are still the same permanood that you were back then.  Q&A is for people to ask FE questions and get answers. 
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Re: Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2013, 11:42:49 AM »
Quote from: markjo on September 13, 2013, 11:29:03 AM
Different FE models have different answers to the same question.  How are we to know which answers to which models are the correct ones if we are not allowed to explore those answers in greater depth?

Quote from: Tausami on September 12, 2013, 12:16:24 PM
If you want to debate the answer, do it in the proper forum. You can even leave a link in the Q&A thread if you want.
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Re: Flat Earth Forums Are A Moderation Wasteland
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2013, 12:02:15 PM »
Quote from: Tausami on September 13, 2013, 11:42:49 AM
Quote from: markjo on September 13, 2013, 11:29:03 AM
Different FE models have different answers to the same question.  How are we to know which answers to which models are the correct ones if we are not allowed to explore those answers in greater depth?

Quote from: Tausami on September 12, 2013, 12:16:24 PM
If you want to debate the answer, do it in the proper forum. You can even leave a link in the Q&A thread if you want.
I'm sorry but I don't see how asking a question in a Q&A thread then having to discuss that answer in a FED thread is conducive to a productive dialogue.  It sounds to me like you got that idea from the Bureau of Redundancy Department.
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