sandokahn's gravity-effect-on-air theory

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Re: sandokahn's gravity-effect-on-air theory
« Reply #240 on: October 21, 2013, 11:28:14 AM »
http://tunguska.tsc.ru/ru/science/1/0/11/

ANGARA RIVER BASE TESTIMONIES


225) Kuropatkina Varvara Ivanovna, 1889 birth. Vantage point - FANACHET village, 40 km away. Taseevo from the east. "In that year she married, 19 years old. Before haying before lunch. Was in the street of the village. Flew fiery broom. Could distinguish elongated body and tail. At the tail sparks in all directions. Along the length of the tail of the density varies. According bright as the sun, you can see with the naked eye. Terrain lit. The body was much brighter than the tail. speed as the aircraft. " Remember the buzz, shake glass in the window. Tremor and buildings. Air wave was not felt. At the crash site of a smoky cloud was not. The next night the unusual optical phenomena remembers. "They said it was some kind of split the planet." Interviewed in the village Razdolinsk.

Now, TWO of the translation services will validate this google translation.
Two other will translate as: does not remember.

Therefore, these translation services do not agree always.
This is the same spelling as what we discussed before.
не помнит = does not remember.

So no night glow.
« Last Edit: October 21, 2013, 11:37:57 AM by Cartesian »
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Re: sandokahn's gravity-effect-on-air theory
« Reply #241 on: October 21, 2013, 11:37:15 AM »
http://tunguska.tsc.ru/ru/science/1/0/11/

ANGARA RIVER BASE TESTIMONIES


226) Mosin Stepan Ye, born in 1900. Vantage point - KANDYKI village, 60 km away. from Motygino, p. Taseevo.

"It has been 8 years. Before haying in the morning. Clear bevetrenno. Played in the street. Saw a burning star with a tail over his head. Circular body, a star with a tail. One body. Tail is like a flame, the density varies along the length. Trail of smoke behind the body remained. Compare the brightness of the body to the sun can be. Thermal sensation was not. " Aircraft flew faster times at 3. Sound effects do not remember. There were light dawns. About the Tunguska meteorite had not. No one questioned. Interrogated with. May Day, the river Taseevo.


No matter which translation service was used we get: there were light dawns.
Yes but light dawns are not night glows. We are talking about night glows, not light dawns. I also checked where Мотыгино was, this place is also inside the red box. http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Мотыгино

So no night glow.
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Re: sandokahn's gravity-effect-on-air theory
« Reply #242 on: October 21, 2013, 11:43:07 AM »
Let us go to Vanavara.

http://tunguska.tsc.ru/ru/science/1/0/8/

38) Downey, Vasily , Evenk, born in 1910. has education, earlier worked as the chairman of the collective farm. He told me that his father said, and local residents.

At the time of the fall of the meteorite his father standing in the lower HUSHMY. The explosion was very strong, ripped deer, took down the plague, people were unconscious. Lots of deer and dogs died. And the forest fires started strong. The sky was red a few days. Those that come under the disaster, then sick.


No matter what translation service is used we get: The sky was red a few days.
This is not his own account and I am sure he's describing about the fire. Read the context.

So no night glow.
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Re: sandokahn's gravity-effect-on-air theory
« Reply #243 on: October 21, 2013, 11:51:04 AM »
Evenki tribe account.

http://www.vurdalak.com/tunguska/witness/lyuchetkana_a.htm

A bright summer night fell, the fire began to diminish. In place of the heat, it grew cold. We decided to move toward the Katanga [river]. By the time we got to the Chambe river, we were already totally weak, all around we saw marvels, terrible marvels. It wasn’t our forest [any more]. I never saw a forest like that. It was strange somehow. Where we lived there had been dense forest, an old forest. But now in many places there was no forest at all. On the mountains all the trees lay flat, and it was bright, and everything was visible for a far distance.

(translation by Bill DeSmedt)
This may be the closest you have found, but it is still not conclusive. She was comparing the view before and after her local forest was destroyed by fire. She could see the faraway remaining fire without trees.
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Re: sandokahn's gravity-effect-on-air theory
« Reply #244 on: October 21, 2013, 11:53:57 AM »
Let us also remember the account from the Altay tribe:

In the moonless in our mountain valleys are usually dark nights, but almost till the autumn nights were bright.

http://tunguska.tsc.ru/ru/science/1/0/20/
This is not a local eyewitness. The area is in the red box.

http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Алтайский_край
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Re: sandokahn's gravity-effect-on-air theory
« Reply #245 on: October 21, 2013, 11:55:31 AM »
Please do your homework...and stop posting nonsense. Here, you do not stand a chance with me.

That message is actually for you sandokhan.
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Re: sandokahn's gravity-effect-on-air theory
« Reply #246 on: October 22, 2013, 06:17:08 AM »
Mark my words: you do not stand a chance with me; not now, not ever.

Game over.



Notice the cities of Krasnoiarsk and Irkutsk.

NOW, THE PHOTOGRAPH TAKEN IN IRKUTSK RIGHT ON THE NIGHT OF JUNE 30: BRIGHT NIGHTS IN SIBERIA:



TOP OF THE PHOTOGRAPH: BRIGHT NIGHTS OBSERVED AT THE KRASNOIARSK WEATHER STATION.


(from Comet/Asteroid Impacts and Human Society, an Interdisciplinary approach: P. Brobowsky and H. Rickman eds., chapter 18, the Tunguska Event by G. Longo, fig. 18.5 and fig 18.6)


Evenki tribe account.

http://www.vurdalak.com/tunguska/witness/lyuchetkana_a.htm

A bright summer night fell, the fire began to diminish. In place of the heat, it grew cold. We decided to move toward the Katanga [river]. By the time we got to the Chambe river, we were already totally weak, all around we saw marvels, terrible marvels. It wasn’t our forest [any more]. I never saw a forest like that. It was strange somehow. Where we lived there had been dense forest, an old forest. But now in many places there was no forest at all. On the mountains all the trees lay flat, and it was bright, and everything was visible for a far distance.

(translation by Bill DeSmedt)

The trees already were flat, and fire began well to diminish. In the daytime it was already bright, no need to mention this; only at night it would make sense to mention such a fact, that everything was visible for a far distance.

Also, the bright summer night of June 30 is explicitly mentioned, just as reported at Krasnoiarsk and Irkutsk.


Re: sandokahn's gravity-effect-on-air theory
« Reply #247 on: October 22, 2013, 08:00:24 AM »
Mark my words: you do not stand a chance with me; not now, not ever.

Game over.

You haven't even answered my first question. I have got plenty others which I will ask in succession after the previous question is answered. So it's far from game over mate.
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Re: sandokahn's gravity-effect-on-air theory
« Reply #248 on: October 22, 2013, 08:02:04 AM »


Notice the cities of Krasnoiarsk and Irkutsk.
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Re: sandokahn's gravity-effect-on-air theory
« Reply #249 on: October 22, 2013, 08:05:02 AM »
EDIT: I found the source of this picture. I read one page of it before but I didn't know there was a picture after it. The PDF can be found here. See chapter 18 page 321-322 (or 310-311).
 
NOW, THE PHOTOGRAPH TAKEN IN IRKUTSK RIGHT ON THE NIGHT OF JUNE 30: BRIGHT NIGHTS IN SIBERIA:



TOP OF THE PHOTOGRAPH: BRIGHT NIGHTS OBSERVED AT THE KRASNOIARSK WEATHER STATION.


(from Comet/Asteroid Impacts and Human Society, an Interdisciplinary approach: P. Brobowsky and H. Rickman eds., chapter 18, the Tunguska Event by G. Longo, fig. 18.5 and fig 18.6)
Did you read the descriptive text that came with the picture?
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Only the bright nights following the 30 June should be related to the Tunguska event. This is confirmed by the global character of the phenomenon and by polarization measurements. The “global” character of the phenomenon, observed in the nights beginning on 30 June and 1 July 1908 are illustrated in Fig. 18.5 (Vasilyev and Fast 1976). As can be seen, the bright nights were observed on an area of about 12 million km2, from the longitude 6.5°W (Armagh, Ireland; see Fig. 18.6) up to 92.9° E (Krasnoyarsk) and from the latitude 41° N (Tashkent) up to 60° N (Petersburg).
And that's exactly what I refer to as red box in my map below. So all night glows are inside the red box.

From the same book:
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As can be seen, the bright nights were observed on an area of about 12 million km˛, from the longitude 6.5° W (Armagh, Ireland; see Fig. 18.6) up to 92.9° E (Krasnoyarsk) and from the latitude 41° N (Tashkent) up to 60° N (Petersburg).
This confirms my argument that the bright nights were only observed from west south-west of the blast location.



Can you find me any eyewitness report of bright nights from Tunguska or east of Tunguska sandokhan? :P
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Re: sandokahn's gravity-effect-on-air theory
« Reply #250 on: October 22, 2013, 08:14:02 PM »
The fuel for BB effect is the dielectric.

Needless to say, only someone who inherited the IQ of an ape could make a statement like this.

The report concludes saying: “It seems perfectly reasonable to conclude that a concentrated force of some kind accumulates within the presence of a strong dielectric.”
Is that the same force that works to purify air without fans?


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The accumulation of the laevorotatory subquark strings (magnet monopoles) or ether provides the thrust or antigravitational effect.
No, still.

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Same effect noticed in the spinning ball experiment of Dr. Bruce DePalma.

A ball spinning at 27,000 RPM and a non-spinning ball were catapulted side-by-side with equal momentum and projection angle. In defiance of all who reject the ether as unrealistic, the spinning ball actually weighed less, and traveled higher than its non-spinning counterpart. Those who attribute this to an aerodynamic or atmospheric effect, please note that it works just as well in a vacuum. Also note, this effect has since been verified by other [enlightened] researchers. The decrease in weight of the spinning ball - anti-gravity - can explain why the spinning object goes higher and falls faster than the identical non-rotating control. Current thinking is that there is no special interaction between rotation and gravity. The behavior of rotating objects is simply the addition of ether energy to whatever motion the rotating object is making.

Is this a harnessing of torsional ether waves by rotation? Both balls draw energy into themselves from an unseen source, but the rotating ball absorbs more of this ethereal energy than its counterpart - energy that would be manifest as gravity, moving down into the Earth. With a decrease in torsional ether above the ball, there is a slight decrease in gravity, the ball gets slightly lighter. Needless to say, this effect defies standard theories.
No.
Same gyroscope video. They do things that seem strange.
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The results of the Spinning Ball Experiment were published in the British Scientific Research Association Journal in 1976. This experiment was also outlined personally by DePalma to Dr. Edward Purcell, one of the most eminent experimental physicists from Harvard at that time. According to DePalma, Purcell, after contemplating the experiment for several minutes, remarked "This will change everything."

It CANNOT be explained without the ether concept: the flagrant violation of Newton's laws, means that for the same mass, the same supposed law of universal gravitation, the spinning ball actually weighed less.
From DePalma's own words.(Not sure why I never found this before)

"The momentous fact is that there is no special interaction between rotation and gravity. The behavior of rotating objects is explained simply on the addition of free energy to whatever motion the rotating object is making. The spinning object goes higher and falls faster than the identical non-rotating control."
You can read the whole thing here and see the context the quote came from. You will see DePalma's experiment was not to disporve gravity. He never mentions ether.
http://depalma.pair.com/SpinningBall%28Understanding%29.html

Time to give that argument up. You were caught lying again.
 
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I have already explained in great detail that the dextrorotatory subquarks are actually the sought after gravitons (but they are NOT electrically neutral, as has been supposed so far in the official science).

Subquarks are made up of strings of bosons and antibosons, please see the article posted here earlier:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,59837.msg1543551.html#msg1543551

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,59837.msg1540721.html#msg1540721
Linking to yourself does nothing. Plus you still haven't explained how I do my job with your model.

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