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For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« on: August 31, 2013, 08:07:03 PM »
It is the nature of gas to expand in all directions.  So universal acceleration can keep the air from rising up and escaping, but what do you think keeps the air from escaping across the edges of the disk?  What do you think is keeping our atmosphere in tact?
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2013, 08:19:30 PM »
Quote from: Alchemist21 on August 31, 2013, 08:07:03 PM
It is the nature of gas to expand in all directions.  So universal acceleration can keep the air from rising up and escaping, but what do you think keeps the air from escaping across the edges of the disk?  What do you think is keeping our atmosphere in tact?

FE response: What do you suppose keeps the atmosphere intact on a giant spinning ball flying through space?

Wouldn't be surprised if this particular fallacy that you bring up is what makes scepti believe in the ice dome thing.
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2013, 03:43:09 AM »
The firmament keeps the air in.




Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament
The firmament was a great tent-like ceiling made of solid crystalline-like material



The idiot above is letting some of the air out. >o<
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2013, 07:17:23 AM »
Quote from: Alchemist21 on August 31, 2013, 08:07:03 PM
It is the nature of gas to expand in all directions.  So universal acceleration can keep the air from rising up and escaping, but what do you think keeps the air from escaping across the edges of the disk?  What do you think is keeping our atmosphere in tact?
I believe in gravity
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2013, 07:22:03 AM »
I believe Tausami supports the idea of aetheric wind currents swarming around the edges, effectively holding the atmoplane in.
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2013, 07:38:44 AM »
Quote from: spoon on September 02, 2013, 07:22:03 AM
I believe Tausami supports the idea of aetheric wind currents swarming around the edges, effectively holding the atmoplane in.
Yeah because that wouldn't just strip the atmosphere away from the edge and carry it up and away from the Earth.
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2013, 10:26:57 AM »
http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=Atmolayer_Lip_Hypothesis

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The Flat Earth does not necessarily need to be physically infinite in order to contain the atmosphere. Just very big. Often we might hear "infinite earth" from Flat Earth proponents as an analogy for what exists beyond the 150 foot wall of ice at the Antarctic coast; a stretch of land incomprehensible by human standards.

In order for barometric pressure to rise and fall, an element of heat must be present. Heat creates pressure. A lack of heat results in a drop in pressure. These two elements are tightly correlated in modern physics.

In our local area the heat of the day comes from the sun, moving and swashing around wind currents from areas of low pressures to areas of high pressures with its heat. The coldness of the Antarctic tundra keeps the pressure low. Beyond the known world, where the rays of the sun do not reach, the tundra of ice and snow lays in perpetual darkness. If one could move away from the Antarctic rim into the uncharted tundra the surrounding temperatures would drop lower and lower until it nears absolute zero. Defining the exact length of the gradient would take some looking into, but at a significant distance past the edge of the Ice Wall temperatures will drop to a point where barometric pressure nears the zero mark. At this point, whether it be thousands or millions of miles beyond the Antarctic rim, the environment will gradually match that of background space, and the world can physically end without the atmosphere leaking out of it.

The atmosphere may very well exist as a lip upon the surface of the earth, held in by vast gradients of declining pressure.
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2013, 11:07:10 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on September 02, 2013, 10:26:57 AM
http://theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=Atmolayer_Lip_Hypothesis

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The Flat Earth does not necessarily need to be physically infinite in order to contain the atmosphere. Just very big. Often we might hear "infinite earth" from Flat Earth proponents as an analogy for what exists beyond the 150 foot wall of ice at the Antarctic coast; a stretch of land incomprehensible by human standards.

In order for barometric pressure to rise and fall, an element of heat must be present. Heat creates pressure. A lack of heat results in a drop in pressure. These two elements are tightly correlated in modern physics.

In our local area the heat of the day comes from the sun, moving and swashing around wind currents from areas of low pressures to areas of high pressures with its heat. The coldness of the Antarctic tundra keeps the pressure low. Beyond the known world, where the rays of the sun do not reach, the tundra of ice and snow lays in perpetual darkness. If one could move away from the Antarctic rim into the uncharted tundra the surrounding temperatures would drop lower and lower until it nears absolute zero. Defining the exact length of the gradient would take some looking into, but at a significant distance past the edge of the Ice Wall temperatures will drop to a point where barometric pressure nears the zero mark. At this point, whether it be thousands or millions of miles beyond the Antarctic rim, the environment will gradually match that of background space, and the world can physically end without the atmosphere leaking out of it.

The atmosphere may very well exist as a lip upon the surface of the earth, held in by vast gradients of declining pressure.

Do you believe in the first model of FE map Tom? In this thread you proposed the bipolar model instead.
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2013, 12:34:11 PM »
Quote from: Excelsior John on September 02, 2013, 07:17:23 AM
Quote from: Alchemist21 on August 31, 2013, 08:07:03 PM
It is the nature of gas to expand in all directions.  So universal acceleration can keep the air from rising up and escaping, but what do you think keeps the air from escaping across the edges of the disk?  What do you think is keeping our atmosphere in tact?
I believe in gravity
As far as I am aware, gravity can't work on a flat earth.
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2013, 01:45:58 PM »
Quote from: Adolf Hipster on September 02, 2013, 12:34:11 PM
Quote from: Excelsior John on September 02, 2013, 07:17:23 AM
Quote from: Alchemist21 on August 31, 2013, 08:07:03 PM
It is the nature of gas to expand in all directions.  So universal acceleration can keep the air from rising up and escaping, but what do you think keeps the air from escaping across the edges of the disk?  What do you think is keeping our atmosphere in tact?
I believe in gravity
As far as I am aware, gravity can't work on a flat earth.
And just why can't it?
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2013, 01:51:31 PM »
Quote from: Excelsior John on September 02, 2013, 01:45:58 PM
Quote from: Adolf Hipster on September 02, 2013, 12:34:11 PM
Quote from: Excelsior John on September 02, 2013, 07:17:23 AM
Quote from: Alchemist21 on August 31, 2013, 08:07:03 PM
It is the nature of gas to expand in all directions.  So universal acceleration can keep the air from rising up and escaping, but what do you think keeps the air from escaping across the edges of the disk?  What do you think is keeping our atmosphere in tact?
I believe in gravity
As far as I am aware, gravity can't work on a flat earth.
And just why can't it?

Well I for one don't think it couldn't work on a flat earth but something with enormous mass like the Earth would crush down unto itself to form a sphere so it wouldn't be a plane for very long.
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2013, 01:57:52 PM »
John that is precisely why a lot of us are questioning your intelligence and saying that despite you agreeing with many RE things that you are less intelligent than the FEers who believe in a concpiracy. FEers typically deny gravity and favor UA because they understand how gravitational theory is supposed to work. They recognize that gravity would crush the earth to form a ball. They are convicted that the Earth is flat so to them it follows that what appears as gravity must be something else. You on the other hand just seem to cherry pick what is and isn't but it doesn't seem like you give enough careful thought to how what you are proposing would work.
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2013, 03:48:00 PM »
Quote from: rottingroom on September 02, 2013, 01:51:31 PM
Quote from: Excelsior John on September 02, 2013, 01:45:58 PM
Quote from: Adolf Hipster on September 02, 2013, 12:34:11 PM
Quote from: Excelsior John on September 02, 2013, 07:17:23 AM
Quote from: Alchemist21 on August 31, 2013, 08:07:03 PM
It is the nature of gas to expand in all directions.  So universal acceleration can keep the air from rising up and escaping, but what do you think keeps the air from escaping across the edges of the disk?  What do you think is keeping our atmosphere in tact?
I believe in gravity
As far as I am aware, gravity can't work on a flat earth.
And just why can't it?

Well I for one don't think it couldn't work on a flat earth but something with enormous mass like the Earth would crush down unto itself to form a sphere so it wouldn't be a plane for very long.
I have already explained this:
Quote from: Excelsior John on September 01, 2013, 07:39:45 PM
I am actually working on a thoery concerning this. I believe the Earth is the base of the universe, a product of the expansion of matter cooling off after the Big Bang. As the universe expands, the earth is being pulled magnetically by gravity in four directions by each of the earth's four ends, which would keep it from rounding up. This can also explain continental drift and the earth as center of the universe, which we are already discussing in the "do you really believe in FE" thread
Basically what I'm saying is that since the Earth is the base of the universe, created as a product of the Big Bang, and as the universe continually expands, gravity pulls it with it. The earth is not any ordinary celestial body, and it is the ultimate dent in the whole universe (as in general relativity). The firmament is not some small ice dome, but the universe itself
Quote from: rottingroom on September 02, 2013, 01:57:52 PM
John that is precisely why a lot of us are questioning your intelligence and saying that despite you agreeing with many RE things that you are less intelligent than the FEers who believe in a concpiracy. FEers typically deny gravity and favor UA because they understand how gravitational theory is supposed to work. They recognize that gravity would crush the earth to form a ball. They are convicted that the Earth is flat so to them it follows that what appears as gravity must be something else. You on the other hand just seem to cherry pick what is and isn't but it doesn't seem like you give enough careful thought to how what you are proposing would work.
I know how gravitational thoery works: gravity is not a force, but a dent in the universe. And I'm not cherry-picking, I'm using gravitational thoery in its whole, but converting it to a geocentric flat earth model
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2013, 11:48:16 PM »
Quote from: Excelsior John on September 02, 2013, 03:48:00 PM
I know how gravitational thoery works: gravity is not a force, but a dent in the universe. And I'm not cherry-picking, I'm using gravitational thoery in its whole, but converting it to a geocentric flat earth model

Hmm so your thoery embraces the gravity theory. And since you believe in NASA, do you believe in satellites as well?
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2013, 06:51:31 AM »
Quote from: Cartesian on September 02, 2013, 11:48:16 PM
Quote from: Excelsior John on September 02, 2013, 03:48:00 PM
I know how gravitational thoery works: gravity is not a force, but a dent in the universe. And I'm not cherry-picking, I'm using gravitational thoery in its whole, but converting it to a geocentric flat earth model

Hmm so your thoery embraces the gravity theory. And since you believe in NASA, do you believe in satellites as well?
Yes of course, overwhelming evidence points toward sattalites and you can fit them perfectly in FET. Why does everyone keep on italicing "thoery"
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2013, 07:55:27 AM »
Quote from: Excelsior John on September 03, 2013, 06:51:31 AM
Quote from: Cartesian on September 02, 2013, 11:48:16 PM
Quote from: Excelsior John on September 02, 2013, 03:48:00 PM
I know how gravitational thoery works: gravity is not a force, but a dent in the universe. And I'm not cherry-picking, I'm using gravitational thoery in its whole, but converting it to a geocentric flat earth model

Hmm so your thoery embraces the gravity theory. And since you believe in NASA, do you believe in satellites as well?
Yes of course, overwhelming evidence points toward sattalites and you can fit them perfectly in FET. Why does everyone keep on italicing "thoery"

Because technically flat earth theory isn't one.
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2013, 08:02:23 AM »
Quote from: rottingroom on September 03, 2013, 07:55:27 AM
Quote from: Excelsior John on September 03, 2013, 06:51:31 AM
Quote from: Cartesian on September 02, 2013, 11:48:16 PM
Quote from: Excelsior John on September 02, 2013, 03:48:00 PM
I know how gravitational thoery works: gravity is not a force, but a dent in the universe. And I'm not cherry-picking, I'm using gravitational thoery in its whole, but converting it to a geocentric flat earth model

Hmm so your thoery embraces the gravity theory. And since you believe in NASA, do you believe in satellites as well?
Yes of course, overwhelming evidence points toward sattalites and you can fit them perfectly in FET. Why does everyone keep on italicing "thoery"

Because technically flat earth theory isn't one.
Why are you rounders so stinking arrogant, why can't you just respect us as thoery like we do with you. Anyway, I guess your right, it isn't a thoery. It's fact  :)
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2013, 08:17:39 AM »
Quote from: Excelsior John on September 03, 2013, 08:02:23 AM
Quote from: rottingroom on September 03, 2013, 07:55:27 AM
Quote from: Excelsior John on September 03, 2013, 06:51:31 AM
Quote from: Cartesian on September 02, 2013, 11:48:16 PM
Quote from: Excelsior John on September 02, 2013, 03:48:00 PM
I know how gravitational thoery works: gravity is not a force, but a dent in the universe. And I'm not cherry-picking, I'm using gravitational thoery in its whole, but converting it to a geocentric flat earth model

Hmm so your thoery embraces the gravity theory. And since you believe in NASA, do you believe in satellites as well?
Yes of course, overwhelming evidence points toward sattalites and you can fit them perfectly in FET. Why does everyone keep on italicing "thoery"

Because technically flat earth theory isn't one.
Why are you rounders so stinking arrogant, why can't you just respect us as thoery like we do with you. Anyway, I guess your right, it isn't a thoery. It's fact  :)

Two things:  1. Please spell "theory" properly. 2. Please learn what constitutes a scientific theory, as opposed to the everyday usage.
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2013, 08:25:07 AM »
Quote from: Rama Set on September 03, 2013, 08:17:39 AM
Quote from: Excelsior John on September 03, 2013, 08:02:23 AM
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Quote from: Excelsior John on September 02, 2013, 03:48:00 PM
I know how gravitational thoery works: gravity is not a force, but a dent in the universe. And I'm not cherry-picking, I'm using gravitational thoery in its whole, but converting it to a geocentric flat earth model

Hmm so your thoery embraces the gravity theory. And since you believe in NASA, do you believe in satellites as well?
Yes of course, overwhelming evidence points toward sattalites and you can fit them perfectly in FET. Why does everyone keep on italicing "thoery"

Because technically flat earth theory isn't one.
Why are you rounders so stinking arrogant, why can't you just respect us as thoery like we do with you. Anyway, I guess your right, it isn't a thoery. It's fact  :)

Two things:  1. Please spell "theory" properly. 2. Please learn what constitutes a scientific theory, as opposed to the everyday usage.
FET very much fits the definition of a scientific theory. The United States National Academy of Science states "It refers to a comprehensive explanation of some aspect of nature that is supported by a vast body of evidence". FET is a comprehensive explanation to the apparent flatness of the Earth as proved by the Bedford Level Experiment, and is supported by a vast body of evidence
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2013, 08:26:51 AM »
Quote from: Excelsior John on September 03, 2013, 08:02:23 AM
Quote from: rottingroom on September 03, 2013, 07:55:27 AM
Quote from: Excelsior John on September 03, 2013, 06:51:31 AM
Quote from: Cartesian on September 02, 2013, 11:48:16 PM
Quote from: Excelsior John on September 02, 2013, 03:48:00 PM
I know how gravitational thoery works: gravity is not a force, but a dent in the universe. And I'm not cherry-picking, I'm using gravitational thoery in its whole, but converting it to a geocentric flat earth model

Hmm so your thoery embraces the gravity theory. And since you believe in NASA, do you believe in satellites as well?
Yes of course, overwhelming evidence points toward sattalites and you can fit them perfectly in FET. Why does everyone keep on italicing "thoery"

Because technically flat earth theory isn't one.
Why are you rounders so stinking arrogant, why can't you just respect us as thoery like we do with you. Anyway, I guess your right, it isn't a thoery. It's fact  :)

At one time FET may have been a scientific theory and as such it was held to the same standard as today's theories. So when the evidence contradicted that theory it was demoted and replaced. RET could be called a fact so it is us the REers on this site who have the right to be offended because it isn't just experiments and mathematics that back it up but also physical photographic evidence. You cite one experiment as proof of your FET when we both know how easily disputable it is. Besides that, it is just one experiment against the millions that can be done that contradict what you think. The proper terminology if we were to be technical is this:

FEC - Flat Earth Conjecture
REF - Round Earth Fact

Neither is a theory because we know exactly what is going on.
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2013, 08:28:04 AM »
Quote from: Excelsior John on September 03, 2013, 08:25:07 AM
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Quote from: Excelsior John on September 03, 2013, 08:02:23 AM
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Quote from: Cartesian on September 02, 2013, 11:48:16 PM
Quote from: Excelsior John on September 02, 2013, 03:48:00 PM
I know how gravitational thoery works: gravity is not a force, but a dent in the universe. And I'm not cherry-picking, I'm using gravitational thoery in its whole, but converting it to a geocentric flat earth model

Hmm so your thoery embraces the gravity theory. And since you believe in NASA, do you believe in satellites as well?
Yes of course, overwhelming evidence points toward sattalites and you can fit them perfectly in FET. Why does everyone keep on italicing "thoery"

Because technically flat earth theory isn't one.
Why are you rounders so stinking arrogant, why can't you just respect us as thoery like we do with you. Anyway, I guess your right, it isn't a thoery. It's fact  :)

Two things:  1. Please spell "theory" properly. 2. Please learn what constitutes a scientific theory, as opposed to the everyday usage.
FET very much fits the definition of a scientific theory. The United States National Academy of Science states "It refers to a comprehensive explanation of some aspect of nature that is supported by a vast body of evidence". FET is a comprehensive explanation to the apparent flatness of the Earth as proved by the Bedford Level Experiment, and is supported by a vast body of evidence

Please learn the history of the Bedford Level experiment.
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2013, 08:35:30 AM »
Quote from: rottingroom on September 03, 2013, 08:26:51 AM
Quote from: Excelsior John on September 03, 2013, 08:02:23 AM
Quote from: rottingroom on September 03, 2013, 07:55:27 AM
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Quote from: Cartesian on September 02, 2013, 11:48:16 PM
Quote from: Excelsior John on September 02, 2013, 03:48:00 PM
I know how gravitational thoery works: gravity is not a force, but a dent in the universe. And I'm not cherry-picking, I'm using gravitational thoery in its whole, but converting it to a geocentric flat earth model

Hmm so your thoery embraces the gravity theory. And since you believe in NASA, do you believe in satellites as well?
Yes of course, overwhelming evidence points toward sattalites and you can fit them perfectly in FET. Why does everyone keep on italicing "thoery"

Because technically flat earth theory isn't one.
Why are you rounders so stinking arrogant, why can't you just respect us as thoery like we do with you. Anyway, I guess your right, it isn't a thoery. It's fact  :)

At one time FET may have been a scientific theory and as such it was held to the same standard as today's theories. So when the evidence contradicted that theory it was demoted and replaced. RET could be called a fact so it is us the REers on this site who have the right to be offended because it isn't just experiments and mathematics that back it up but also physical photographic evidence. You cite one experiment as proof of your FET when we both know how easily disputable it is. Besides that, it is just one experiment against the millions that can be done that contradict what you think. The proper terminology if we were to be technical is this:

FEC - Flat Earth Conjecture
REF - Round Earth Fact

Neither is a theory because we know exactly what is going on.
Here we go with the rotten arrogance again  ::) Anyway, a few Greek "philosophers" put a stick in the ground and saw a shadow in a different spot and started crying round earth. Then Christopher Columbos discovered the Americas (which everyone blantantly assumed as being a huge megacontinent) and everyone blantantly thought the Earth had finally been proved round because they misunderstood FET as a Mercator map. The modern FET easily explains all of this and it should be promoted as the top theory again. Plus, I feel like I'm the only one who's actually making an effort to bring back science to FET
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I know how gravitational thoery works: gravity is not a force, but a dent in the universe. And I'm not cherry-picking, I'm using gravitational thoery in its whole, but converting it to a geocentric flat earth model

Hmm so your thoery embraces the gravity theory. And since you believe in NASA, do you believe in satellites as well?
Yes of course, overwhelming evidence points toward sattalites and you can fit them perfectly in FET. Why does everyone keep on italicing "thoery"

Because technically flat earth theory isn't one.
Why are you rounders so stinking arrogant, why can't you just respect us as thoery like we do with you. Anyway, I guess your right, it isn't a thoery. It's fact  :)

Two things:  1. Please spell "theory" properly. 2. Please learn what constitutes a scientific theory, as opposed to the everyday usage.
FET very much fits the definition of a scientific theory. The United States National Academy of Science states "It refers to a comprehensive explanation of some aspect of nature that is supported by a vast body of evidence". FET is a comprehensive explanation to the apparent flatness of the Earth as proved by the Bedford Level Experiment, and is supported by a vast body of evidence

Please learn the history of the Bedford Level experiment.
I have and it sides heavily with FET
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2013, 08:42:46 AM »
Quote from: Excelsior John on September 03, 2013, 08:35:30 AM
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Please learn the history of the Bedford Level experiment.
I have and it sides heavily with FET

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Please learn the history of the Bedford Level experiment.

Wallace's clear falsification of the results which could indicate a FE shows that the Bedford Level does not side heavily with the FE hypothesis.
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2013, 12:23:34 PM »
Another question concerning the lack of gravity:

How do FEers explain sea tides, and the fact that tide magnitudes correspond to the relative positions of the earth, sun, and moon?
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2013, 12:31:15 PM »
Quote from: Excelsior John on September 03, 2013, 08:25:07 AM
FET very much fits the definition of a scientific theory. The United States National Academy of Science states "It refers to a comprehensive explanation of some aspect of nature that is supported by a vast body of evidence". FET is a comprehensive explanation to the apparent flatness of the Earth as proved by the Bedford Level Experiment, and is supported by a vast body of evidence
Since you claim that FET provides such a comprehensive explanation of the shape of the earth, perhaps you could point me to a flat earth model that demonstrates the basic concepts of the rising and setting of the celestial bodies (sun and moon), solar and lunar eclipses and the changing of the seasons as simply and clearly as a simple device like this:
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2013, 12:53:21 PM »
Is it a potential fallacy to believe that we must be able to model whatever is real?
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2013, 12:57:12 PM »
Quote from: odes on September 03, 2013, 12:53:21 PM
Is it a potential fallacy to believe that we must be able to model whatever is real?
Models don't necessarily have anything to do with reality, but they do have a lot to do with how well a theory explains a phenomenon and that theory's predictive power.
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2013, 01:02:56 PM »
Considering that we believe the sun disappears to an optical effect, how would you expect this table-top model to look?
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2013, 04:40:06 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on September 03, 2013, 01:02:56 PM
Considering that we believe the sun disappears to an optical effect, how would you expect this table-top model to look?
Are you telling me that an explanation that can't be physically modeled is more believable that one that can?
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Re: For FEers Who Don't Believe in Gravity
« Reply #29 on: September 03, 2013, 05:43:02 PM »
Quote from: markjo on September 03, 2013, 04:40:06 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on September 03, 2013, 01:02:56 PM
Considering that we believe the sun disappears to an optical effect, how would you expect this table-top model to look?
Are you telling me that an explanation that can't be physically modeled is more believable that one that can?

No. I'm telling you that you do not come off as a particularly intelligent person, expecting a table-top model for an optical effect.
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